I love the Ivor references! 😎

That Ivor the Engine reference was perfect

@alan-sk7ky

3 жыл бұрын

I think the 'there she lay and slumbered' was a 'little engines' Thomas tank reference too ;-) (one of the little engines was lost in a shed somewhere iirc)

@edwinsalisbury83

Жыл бұрын

@@alan-sk7ky duke

This is one of my favorite engines. If you do ever decide to cover an American locomotive, the Lion of the Whitneyville and Machiasport Railroad would be a good forgotten locomotive. Despite being one of the only existing American locomotives from the 1840s, and probably the most original of all of them, it's relatively unknown. When the railroad closed in the 1890s, the town purchased Lion as a historic curiosity, but essentially, it was kept out of sight in storage until being restored in the 1970s!

@johndavies9270

3 жыл бұрын

I've never even heard of that one! Must look it up. Given Fire Queen's 'cat up a tree' cylinders and axle pedestals rivetted to the boiler barrel she reminds me of some six and eight wheeled goods engines which Matthias Baldwin built a few years later - indeed looks a bit like one, or a Norris gone wrong. I think pedestal mountings were moderately common in the early days - Locomotion uses them - the strains imposed on the boiler being a major weakness with the system. Fire Queen as now preserved is a lovely engine. Pity one of the later 0-6-0 tanks wasn't also saved, to keep her company.

Love the ivor the engine reference in the beginning

Shame that this locobuilder didn't succeed,,,, it's a 0b0 coupled with gives pure adhesion long wheelstance gives Les rocking side to side fairly large drivers and lov center of gravity indicates a fairly speedy machine and very maintenance friendly valve gear .... He had a lot of good ideas

For such a small, little engine it sure had a good life and perfect luck when found for salvation and display. Lovely absolutely lovely

My dad's family is from Northfleet!!! This felt wierd!

Good job with the series of videos on the locomotives. Its crazy how you haven't gotten more subscribers. Very well edited content. Hats off to you good sir.

A 4 foot guage locomtive? Wow that's rare. Cool video though!

Loving the Welsh accent. cracking video as always!

Well i for one fancy going to see that!What a great piece of kit. Good vid. cheers.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

You would not have thought that such an unusual design would even work, let alone be successful, yet they had quite a long working life.

I love Ivor the Engine.

The name of this locomotive sound like a song that queen would sing

Hi Anthony, I just found your channel and I think your videos are great I think your coverage the early pioneers s so important because it's always overlooked or just confused Rocket. Is there any chance you can do Lindal railway incident ? I realised its a bit past the early pioneers but it is in the same century and the loco still technically exists. Best Andrew

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard! Is that the one where a gert big 'ole opened up and a locomotive disappeared into the murky depths?

@andrewdiack3333

4 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Yes that's the one.

My Great Great Grandfather built the Fire queen and the jenny lidd

Heeey, nice ivor reference

wait, Dolgoch and Fire Queen both had the same valve gear linkage?!

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Dolgoch's driving axle like Firequeen's, is behind the firebox. Therefore unless outside valve gear was use, then the eccentrics would have to be placed on the leading axle. In both caes the eccentrics are on the unpowered leading axle, working the link motion in a more or less typical location but then the valve gear folds back on itself to pass back tot he front of the engine to work the valve spindles. It's crazy and means that the valve gear timing can only ever be described as 'lumpy.' On Firequeen the valve gear is more or less accessible but on Dolgoch the space between the frames is tiny and its just crammed in there. Its a rediculous design. Ingenious but it's not user friendly.

Fire Queen The Landlubber Engine

0:14 I thought you where referring to ivor from ivor the engine

Seems like it's complete enough to run again.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

Probably, maybe. But given it's age, it's unique status and very high proportion of original material from its working life, then it should not be restored to working order as restoration by its nature is destructive, as it operating a piece of historic workng machinery. With locomotives like Fire Queen, Rocket, Locomotion etc, the only way forward is to build a replica. Which for Fire Queen would be a lot of fun but there's no 4ft gauge track upon which to run it.

@fritz46

2 жыл бұрын

Glasgow Subway... lol

@HamStrains

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory in the interest of doing it at all you'd probably just make the choice to tweak the design out by the 4 1/4 inches each side. Similar with earl of Airlie, 4' 6" gauge is close enough to just fudge it out for the purpose of a near exact replica you can use anywhere pretty much. Keep building them and one day there could be a whole railway set up that doesn't run any designs beyond about 1850/60 which would be bloody lovely as a counterpart to all the multitude of other railways

Looks odd, but beautiful

did the quarry company make a record of when this engine first ran or when she last ran before they retired her?

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

4 жыл бұрын

There probably is a record somewhere of when it started work and if there was an official decision to preserve it.

Damn, that's a weird looking thing. 00:09 It's like a six-coupled engine missing the centre set of wheels, AND NO FRAMES. That isn't the Jenny Lind I was thinking of.

@AnthonyDawsonHistory

3 жыл бұрын

*puts on Alec Guiness voice* "This isnt the Jenny Lind you are looking for...."

@johndavies9270

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyDawsonHistory 'Jenny Lind' seems to have been a favourite name for both engines and steam boats in the 1840's and 50's. The old North Staffordshire Railway had a steam boat named after the Swedish Nightingale, amongst other lines.

Going around corners must have been interesting?!