This scene is actually a lot more upsetting. When John died, Bobby basically adopted Sam and Dean as his own sons. So when Bobby says I want you to loose my number, Sam is loosing his father all over again.

@bobflame5679

6 жыл бұрын

Olivia Martinez if you are a true Supernatural fan you know right when Bobby says to lose his number you know he's possessed he's Bobby would never say that to sam yes he will be angry but he will never say that to sam or Dean

@akf2135

6 жыл бұрын

Ruby Folk yeah that was horrible

@_angd.oodles_4186

5 жыл бұрын

that's what I thought too, I'm very sad now.

@mattnar3865

5 жыл бұрын

@@bobflame5679 Yes but she's not talking about us, she's talking about Sam, who just started the apocalypse and has every reason to believe that's the real Bobby.

@lucybug72

4 жыл бұрын

Bob Flame Yeah but you wouldn’t know till later

"Hey Sam. That was the demon talkin'. I'll never cut you off boy. You're family."

@louisebrownie9160

4 жыл бұрын

Jay Garcia what episode did bobby say this? I’ve been trying to find it for ages

@jhoff1804

4 жыл бұрын

Louise Brownie season 5 episode 1

@marymartindale884

2 жыл бұрын

I was so glad he told Sam that

@samueljeshurunlamechp9894

2 жыл бұрын

I'm the 666th like

Aww Sam's holding back the tears...

@elizabeth-jaynecollins2157

6 жыл бұрын

Janelle Y. So was I

@akf2135

6 жыл бұрын

Janelle Y. Poor Sammy

Why did I watch this scene again?! Sam could burn down my house and look at me with those eyes. Instant forgiveness.

@majas7024

6 ай бұрын

fr

I'm so glad this wasn't Bobby

Remember watching this for the first time. I was so heartbroken at the thought of Bobby disowning his 'son' and Sam's puppy face as a response.

@talam8127

7 жыл бұрын

it wasn't bobby though he was possessed by a demon

@hollenka9935

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know. But when I saw this scene the first time round, I thought it was real Bobby.

@braywyatt6163

7 жыл бұрын

I hate Sam so much he always screwed up

@PLLittleMama2007

7 жыл бұрын

Dean screws up just as much as Sam does. Dean keeps bringing Sam back when he doesn't want to be brought back. Dean teamed up with a Vampire. Dean got the Mark of Cain which brought on all of the trouble over the past few seasons. It's too bad that everyone always have to blame Sam for everything while Dean gets a pass.

@samfanhellyeah

7 жыл бұрын

Taylor Fritschmann Ok sure Jan

This scene is so hard to watch. He looks so hurt. I want to hug him and tell him is going to be ok. Great acting, Jared!

@lauralukridge19

6 жыл бұрын

Gemishell25 Same

Oh my god those eyes when Bobby told Sam to lose his number the face he made and the look in his eyes I can’t even describe it

@onlyripley

4 жыл бұрын

it’s his puppy dog eyes 🥺

Sam!!!! Oh gosh that puppy eyes makes me melt....and the way he tried to hold his tears.... So emotional.... Jared did a very good job here.... And god knows how relieved i am when Bobby was actually possessed when he said that to Sam

Sams puppy dog eyes almost crying is KILLING ME Be nice to the Moose

This scene hurt so much to watch, Sam didn't deserve that

@Crescentknight8189

6 жыл бұрын

The hell he didn't! He knew there would be some kind of consequences. Lilith told him she doesn't make it to the end of the story. He was warned by several different people that he was going down a dark path and he just kept on walking. Even if Lilith hadn't been the final seal, then what? What was his next move? That may have been a demon, but he wasn't lying.

@269gregory

6 жыл бұрын

Bobby was possessed by a demon when he said that.

@lauralukridge19

6 жыл бұрын

Sweet Lies True

@bigbootytrudy9283

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah he did. I love Sam but he fucked up hard.

@Ghost-fu7cb

5 жыл бұрын

@@Crescentknight8189 no one knew she was the final seal. How many times have the people who said "You won't see the end of this story" actually meant they wouldn't because them dying starts it?

I was so relieved when it was revealed Bobby was possessed.

GOSH THE PUPPY EYES

@colored433

4 жыл бұрын

I know smh

Dean come on say somthing dont just stand there

@nina-raedelong158

4 жыл бұрын

Dean did warn Sam to stop talking, but Sam kept talking anyway.

Poor Moose. I could tell he wasn't trying to cry

I really hated Dean first episodes of this season. He's equally to blame for the apocalypse. He did a deal with a demon too and was manipulated. And instead of standing up for Sam, he blames him too. Because he's angry Sam ditched him for Ruby.

@impala-67

4 жыл бұрын

I keep seeing you and all you do is hate on Dean for BS reasons. Fun fact: Dean made a deal with a demon, Sam WORKED with one. Big difference. And between their breaking of the seals, only Sam had the benefit of MULTIPLE warnings and no torture to sway his decision.

@altinaykor364

4 жыл бұрын

waht react you possibly expected from him?you think he was angry because sam ditched him for ruby!he didn't give a damn crap about that demon!sam almost killed him(not pessessed,not under a spell or anything he was really trying to kill him) what are you think dean is?a boyfriend?no he is an older brother trying to do good thing and not to let his little brother do anything stupid!well it's sam's hobbie to do exactly the opposite thing dean told him to do!and if you hate dean for season 5(which was a great season for me just like season 10) then everyone should disgust sam for season 9! dean was angry right but he never hurt sam the way he did in all those years and most in season 9!i have a little brother who is(accidently) 4 years younger than me!if he just hit me i will ask my father to punish him for two days!if he tries to kill me...will what do you think?

@annexsis5181

3 жыл бұрын

I agree that dean was unfair to sam cuz he was also planning on killing lilith until castiel told him last minute that she was the final seal and sam dident know but I think dean is justified in being mad that sam chose a demon over him that must have hurt to know

@amberxv4777

3 жыл бұрын

@@impala-67 you're really wrong so. I have as much posts to talk about Sam being wrong. I don't hate Dean at all. Both he and Sam are my favorite character. I thought Sam was at fault in s1. But really s4 and s5 Dean was a bit too self-righteous.

@amberxv4777

3 жыл бұрын

@@annexsis5181 yeah, I agree. I don't expect him to act perfectly and it's normal to let his feelings get into the way. I'm just saying that he shares the blame for the apocalypse, but somehow they make it seem like it was completely Sam's fault

Even though Bobby is possessed it's still just as sad, Sam face when Bobby told him to lose his number :(

When I look at Sam’s face I start to cry. LOOK AT HIM! WANNA HUG HIM! HIS TEARS AND HIS ADORABLE PUPPY DOG EYES!

0:48 woah amazing puppy dog eyes right there!

@vampg

6 жыл бұрын

TheStepmonkey a

I remember when i first watched this i was so angry with bobby, until i learned he was possed

I just want to reach out for Sam and hug him so bad

Yeah that hurt. Chalk this up to another scene I have trouble rewatching. I think had a feeling that wasn't really Bobby but the thing that really bothered me was the way Dean just stood there like a really hot slab of meat while his little brother was getting torn apart.

@Crescentknight8189

6 жыл бұрын

Because everything that thing was saying was right. Dean was standing back because Demonbobby was saying everything he wanted to.

@nicolesalmon4583

6 жыл бұрын

Dang Dean gets blame for everything. Dean messes up he gets ripped a new one. Sammy messes up Dean gets ripped a new one. Dean did try to stop him and he handed him his ass. Remembering that. So even though it wasn't actually Bobby saying this stuff, Sammy needs to understand that actions have consequences. Except the whole lose my #part. Bobby or not that one gets to me everytime.

@BigMac8000

6 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong, you have a point here - older siblings get hosed. But.... Everybody forgets that Dean broke the first seal. The one that started it all. Sure, he was being tortured in hell - that's excusable. He lasted something like 20-30 years of torture before he started taking the knife to other people, totally excusable, even admirable that he lasted that long. But in the beginning, he made a demon deal to save Sam that resulted in his stint in hell, which led ultimately to the destruction of the first seal. He made a deal with a demon to do something he thought was right. Sam made a deal with a demon (Ruby) to do something he thought was right. It's the same sin, same ultimate consequences. Sam had the benefit of Dean and Bobby telling him not to do it, but they are also completely unaware that Sam, in the end, tried to open contact with Dean, and someone manipulated his voicemail. Dean on the other hand, never consulted Bobby on the demon deal at all. It's easy to forget all this. I'm not sure if Bobby really meant this moment as it was, or if he was gambling a bit to shape Sam up. Ultimately he never gives up on the boys, but a shot like that sober'd sam up hard, and he probably didn't know about the phone call, but he see's how much Sam cares. Some of it at this point didn't add up - Sam did try to open a voicemail from Dean and it was intercepted, presumably by demon's, and faked... and bobby doesn't know this, but he might suspect something is up. He's acting on what he's got... but he crumbles pretty easy on this notion later. **edit** I'd forgotten this is when Bobby is possessed by a demon, but... Demon's tap their hosts, he might've used a lot of Bobby's real feelings, so it all still stands. He might've cut deeper, but it was Bobby's thoughts doing the cutting.

@forcryinoutloud

4 жыл бұрын

@@BigMac8000 What you're forgetting though is that Dean's deal was for HIS soul to save Sam. That Dean always chooses to sacrifice HIMSELF. Does he make bad choices that result in bad things happening? Of course, that's only human - but when Dean does it, it is ALWAYS himself that he's putting right there in the cross hairs. Sam chooses people OVER Dean, he chooses Ruby - a DEMON, over DEAN, his brother. He has the benefit of both Bobby and Dean, both older, bother more experienced hunters, as well as Castiel, telling him that what he is doing is WRONG, but he does it anyway. Dean will always make the sacrifice play - himself for the ones he loves, whereas Sam is always going to be the one making the stupid choice that risks the people he supposedly loves. That's the difference between them - and that's why, despite this being demon!Bobby, Sam absolutely needed to hear that he fucked up ROYALLY.

@rbnbitch6981

4 жыл бұрын

Nicole Salmon it really isn’t true. In the series, Sam gets blamed for absolutely everything. He’s the only one people blame, and it’s like everyone forget Dean broke the first seal except when it’s convenient and it gives Dean some emotional moments that make people feel bad FOR him. Thats the difference between the two characters. Every time that Dean fucks up it’s either completely ignored (when he physically beats up Sam at multiple times, bc yes that is an abusive behavior but for some reasons the writers consider it ok) or twisted to make him look like the poor victim. Every. Damn. Time. Also, he’s forgotten super easily. Whereas Sam gets the screaming, the beating, the blaming from everyone around him, even when it wasn’t his fault. I really don’t know why the writers did this, but clearly they have a favorite character and they just chose to overlook all his flaws and all the fucked up things that he does, which imo is really sad. He would have been way more interesting if he was called out on his bullshit.

So many years later, and it still hurts 💔

When Sam hair was the cutest.

I hate how everyone blames the apocalypse on Sam. If he's culpable then so is Dean, in equal measure. In actuality they were both manipulated, so neither is responsible. It just sucks that everyone's constantly ragging on Sam for it, and Dean never defends him...

@mimie9656

5 жыл бұрын

Blue Sky don't put Dean in that business. Sam does n’t listen think he knows better oh ” I save more people then the way we used to” by sucking some demon blood. That ain't no Dean fault all on Sam and his trusty way

@rabbit4919

5 жыл бұрын

lets not forget that cas let sam out so its his fault too

@juliagrewhite1439

5 жыл бұрын

on jah if I had had to choose one to blame would be Castiel, if he doesn’t let Sam out maybe Dean could stop him Idon’t know

@rabbit4919

5 жыл бұрын

@@juliagrewhite1439 they would've never been in that situation if it wasn't for dean

@Kikiricki11

4 жыл бұрын

Mimi E Without Dean breaking the first seal, Sam couldn’t have broken the last. Not to mention that until Cas told Dean so, Dean was going to kill Lilith. He full on planed on it. But now everyone acts so self righteous as if they wouldn’t have done it. Sam may have done it the wrong way, but he did what the others also wanted to do. So why are they blaming him THAT he did it and not HOW he did it. It is unfair. (Also, side note, Dean trusted Ruby at one point as well) It was a team effort. Dean is equally at fault as Sam and even Cas played his part. They were all being manipulated by different people. So why is it only Sam‘s fault exactly?

Remember watching that the first time. "That stuff don't get forgiven boy". Turned to my fella and went "demon. Not bobby. Bobby wouldnt say that". He then said to lose his number and I said "calling it now. Demon. Bobby has, will and would forgive literally anything those boys can do because that's what a dad does. Yeah yeah, john is supposed to be their dad but bobby actually IS"

@trparnell87

4 ай бұрын

Any man can be a father, but not every man can be a dad.

And Dean just stood there.

@parycartoons6840

3 жыл бұрын

What exactly did you want him to do? Dean defending him or not I doubt anything would have stopped Bobby from doing that especially since he wasn't himself. Bobby's essentially their real father. When your parent snaps at you, right or wrong, well deserved or not, some people just stand there and take it.

@OrbitFighter

3 жыл бұрын

@@parycartoons6840 plus in my opinion i believe some part of dean wanted bobby to chew out sam because deam himself was having trust issues towards sam

@annexsis5181

3 жыл бұрын

This makes me think you know how sam dident really wanna talk to dean when he went to Sanford maybe it's because dean also just stood there quite when john told sam to never come back and sam resented dean for not doing anything and the only reason sam dident hate dean this time was because he felt like he deserved it

@marymartindale884

2 жыл бұрын

@@annexsis5181 How many kids do you know that talk back to their parents when they or a sibling are getting yelled at?

Why is everyone blaming sam for this? For the record dean was the one who broke the first seal and sam didnt even know killing lilith would bring on the apocalypse until it was too late. Also, cas was the one who unlocked the panic room door and the altered voicemail didnt really help sams decision. And the punchline is that sam is so precious that he cant see the other 10 million reasons why this happened, besides him ACCIDENTALLY breaking the last seal. And i cant help but laugh at the audacity cas and dean have to blame sam when they are just as guilty of starting everything.

@brmnihad2549

5 жыл бұрын

9 seasons later and I'm still incredibly bitter and mad about that

@joshburns4611

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Dean was tricked too into breaking that first seal.

@altinaykor364

3 жыл бұрын

your stupid ass cannot see the difference between that Dean needed 30 years of loneliness and torture to break and even in that time he didn't think that someday it will be over or some angel might come!with Sam who choose a demon over his own brother over and over!lied for months, drinking demon blood,abusing possessed bodies (if one of them would survive,they would never forgive Sam for it,as for eternity! because he literally used their suck situation as a demon meatsuite for his own benefit!) while his brother told him over and over not to do it, forgave him for all those lies and secrets and actually tried to help,he never listened and even tried to kill him! while even Lilith indirectly told him that she has to die so the apocalypse could start!did he listen? while no one actually tried to stop Dean,he actually had no other options unlike Sam!that's why he screwed and is to blame so much more than Dean!and instead of taking responsibility for his actions, came and told I did all of this for Dean or because of Dean!as in the end blaming everything on Dean without even trying to understand where exactly he went wrong!

@odile8701

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Sam, not once, gives a single iota of responsibility for what happened to ANYONE else. Although he was then gun, there were a lotta fucking hands pulling his trigger. And he doesn’t acknowledge that at all. Then again, it’s rare anyone else acknowledges he wasn’t solely responsible, so…..

Actually, the whole thing was mainly Cas's fault. It's not Dean or Sam's fault because they didn't know they were starting anything. Cas knew damn well what he was doing and what the consequences were....and then he still blames it on Sam, at least in the season 5 opener.

@frankiehays3638

8 жыл бұрын

+CampingforCool41 and he was the one who let sam out of the panic room which lead to sam killing lilith

@CampingforCool41

8 жыл бұрын

Frankie Hays Yep, and he never once took responsibility for it.

@magiv4205

8 жыл бұрын

They always blame everything on sam. He's the punching bag of everyone, even the writers. "Messed some shit up? Call Sam Winchester, he will willingly take the blame because he is too good of a soul to see anything but bad in you. He is a freak, and aware, so in case he should complain, just tell him this and you'll stop resistance in its tracks. Have a lovely, carefree life!"

@Gemishell25

8 жыл бұрын

+Magi V Exactly!

@justowldream_live7672

7 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, you are freacking right!

This kinda thing do not get forgiven boy! - THAT that right there is when you know it is not bobby, because there is not a single thing Sam or dean could do that would unforgivable... Which is what makes them family

I love how in this scene its like sam is a little kid and dean and bobby are the parents XD

His puppy dog eyes are killing me!

Aw.................Poor Sammy

This is one scene I always try to avoid rewatching because although I knew from the start that something was up with Bobby, like demon possession, it breaks my heart! Sam's face, when he first tells him it's because he feels so bad and thinks of Bobby as a father so he feels bad not telling him. So he tells him and gets this in response, and he thinks it's actually Bobby and he is so clouded by sadness and guilt and all bad feelings he doesn't stop to think that it's not actually Bobby because he thinks he deserves it. Which he didn't! If you want to lay the guilt on Sam, think about the fact that Dean broke the first seal for selfish reasons and Cas is the one who let Sam out of the Panic Room in the first place. Demons AND Angels were manipulating them all, and although I think Dean breaking the first seal was technically selfish, the reason he was in Hell was so Sam could live, but he wasn't forced into the torturing other souls and he wasn't manipulated by someone he thought he could trust. So I hate when people throw all the blame at Sam, because he was actually least at fault (other than Bobby because Bobby actually did nothing to add to the whole Apocalypse starting... He was probably the only one who was smart enough to not haha) Edit: Just in case anyone thinks that by saying Dean's decision to torture others in Hell wasn't understandable, that's not what I mean at all. It was purely driven from him wanting to escape being tortured himself and that is completely understandable. We'd all do the same, we most likely wouldn't last anywhere near as long as he did. But in the end, he chose to torture other souls to relieve himself of the pain. He did horrible things for selfish reasons in Hell, and like I said, it's understandable, but that doesn't change the facts. Plus, he was in Hell so Sam could live (I've always found Demon Deals like that a mix of selfless and selfish. You don't wanna live without this person, so you make them live without you instead and go to Hell to do so.) With Sam and the Demon Blood, that is so much more complicated to me. In a way, it was selfless to an extreme. He was willing to destroy himself in order to destroy Lilith. But he was also very suicidal at the time, and it was a suicide run, which kinda makes his motives selfish. Then, when Dean gets back it's already formed into an addiction, but he hasn't really realised that, but in a way it has become a selfish motive because he feels he needs the blood and this is how he gets it, but then also he saw how Hell effected Dean and changed him and he didn't want him to have that pressure of killing Lilith on him as well. So that was both selfish and selfless. Point is, they were both manipulated by everyone around them. But, in a way, even the people manipulating them were being manipulated. It was all a huge mess, but it also really worked and made sense. My original point of this comment though, was that Sam shoulders all the blame for the Apocalypse. No one blames Dean because he only broke the first Seal in order to stop his own torture, unknowingly. But everyone blames Sam because he broke the last Seal by killing the demon they all wanted dead but with his powers none of them liked. I mean, here's a thought, Bobby literally suggested to Dean that they let Sam kill Lilith because he recognised what they were doing to him. Sam destroyed himself in order to kill Lilith because he believed it was the right thing, because that's what they all thought. But instead of any praise or relief for Lilith being dead, he gets a load of blame Lucifer, when that was far from his fault. :(

@nicolesalmon4583

6 жыл бұрын

Daisy Fae actually the Angels could have dragged Dean out sooner but they wanted him to break the first seal. And Dean didn't have anyone trying to stop him from doing his part. Sam did. Dean tried to stop him. But he was so gung ho on revenge and high on demon blood that he had to do things his own way. So yeah Sammy gotta hold the L on this one. In season 4 Chuck told him what he was doing, sucking demon blood was wrong but he just kept doing it. He wasn't being tortured everyday for 30 years like Dean was. Was he, did I miss that part?

@axelwinchester4220

6 жыл бұрын

Nicole Salmon not really dean screwed up by always taking his dad's side telling sam to fall in line giving sam crap when John died dean always was a control freak thats why he used his dads words on sam after the fight walk out that door don't ever come back

@wallabywayful

6 жыл бұрын

Dean did try to stop him drinking demon blood, but no one told him NOT to kill Lilith until right before he was about to kill her. The way Dean tried to stop Sam drinking demon blood was actually pretty textbook to driving away someone with a drug addiction . A hard drug addiction takes sensitivity to deal with, something Dean wasn't emotionally-equipped to give Sam after his experience in Hell (Dean of Season Two probably would've been able to handle it much better, and might've actually helped Sam to stop much earlier). Depending on the drug, quitting cold turkey can actually kill someone, because it shocks the body. If Sam were taken to a hospital, they would have weaned him off the drug slowly, diluting the doses each time, and sent him to talk therapy to discover the emotional root of the addiction and heal it so he never feels the need to use the drug again. In this case, the emotional root of the addiction was Sam feeling helpless/powerless -- both in the face of Dean's death, and in the face of how much of his life had been puppeted by demons. He turned to Ruby and the demon blood in order to try to take some control back, and reclaim the autonomy that demonic manipulation stole from him... which of course was in itself a demonic manipulation, and ended up with him losing more control of both himself and his situation. When Sam tells Dean he needs Ruby, he means he needs the feeling of autonomy Ruby's blood grants him. Dean locking Sam up, "bossing [Sam] around" (as Sam puts it), and giving Sam ultimatums is the exact brand of controlling restriction of his choices that Sam's trying to overcome by drinking the demon blood in the first place. It only exacerbates the problem. Sam asks Dean to trust him to take the wheel this time; he needed to hear "hey, I do trust you to run your own life. You have power on your own, you don't need the demon blood." What he gets from Dean is "No, I don't trust you. You can't make decisions for yourself. You're a monster." (Dean's controlling of Sam is, of course, a by-product of his own feeling of powerlessness post-Hell). Ironically, it's Ruby who tells Sam he never needed the demon blood to activate his power -- and of course after hearing that, Sam's addiction no longer has its overwhelming pull on him. Both Sam and Dean needed a rock, and neither brother was in an emotional position to be able to give that kind of support to the other, and so neither was able to get the support they needed from the other. Both of them were a mess, and they both had a hand in the fracturing of the relationship. They were all manipulated twelve ways to Sunday.

@nicolesalmon4583

6 жыл бұрын

wallabywayful Sam knew drinking demon blood was wrong. That's the choice he made. They kill demons for Chucks sake. Dean was always an emotional wreck. I'm surprised they turned out to not be worse because of their upbringing. No I don't blame Dean for Sam's demon blood addiction. Dean is responsible for the choices he makes in his life at what point is Sammy held accountable for his choices. My take is that the one constant presence Sam has had in his life was Dean so he knows his brothers attitude better than anyone else. Dean is always a hard talking son of a gun (no chick flick moment). Not everyone goes around doing foolishness because they feels bossed around by their older sibling. He made a stupid decision to feel stronger and needed and didn't care about the consequences. He tried to justify that in the diner. "Oh Dean with this method I save the host more times than we've ever been able to before". They hunt the supernatural everything has a consequences. Sam knew this. I don't blame Dean one bit

@wallabywayful

6 жыл бұрын

Oh hon, I'm not blaming Dean for Sam drinking demon blood. Sam made a conscious decision to self-destruct and bring Lilith down with him (I think he tells Dean this outright when they discuss how his relationship with Ruby started, but it's been so long since I saw that episode that I don't remember). It was a suicide run -- since he couldn't get Dean out of hell, he devoted himself to taking down what he saw as Dean's murderer. Dean was brought back from Hell too late for Sam to realize it had turned into an addiction that fed a psychological need. That's all on Sam. I'm just saying that by the end of the season, even with all the heavy manipulation that angels and demons were working on both boys, there is clearly still a way for Dean to reach Sam, and vice versa, and yet neither of the boys take it. If Sam had recognized what was going on and told Dean that he was struggling with an addiction, I'd like to think Dean might've been more understanding and might've actually found some strength in helping Sam out. (Sam didn't tell him, of course, because he was too far into it to realize what it was.) Likewise, if Dean had treated Sam's addiction like an addiction, and acted accordingly, Sam might've listened to Dean. Instead, the words he said and the way he acted were instrumental in driving Sam away in that last scene between them. That's what makes the storytelling so good: you can see the path both of them could've taken to prevent all this, and have to watch them fall apart instead because of essential character flaws in both. If there WASN'T a way for the boys to reconcile, then the fallout wouldn't be nearly as painful. Both of them are responsible for the breaking in their relationship, just as both of them are responsible for the Apocalypse (Dean breaking the first seal and Sam breaking the last). Again, that's why it's good writing. Also, just an aside -- Sam needing control was about so much more than Dean bossing him around, girl. (Although pre-Hell Dean was a lot less controlling, so your argument that Sam knows that's how his brother works doesn't fit here. The whole point of season four is that both boys don't recognize the person the other's become since they've been apart, and both boys are shaken by that. Sam didn't recognize the Dean that came back from Hell -- that was part of why he didn't ask him for help in the first place, and why he thought Dean wouldn't be able to kill Lilith, because Dean was so messed up from what he'd gone through. Go back and rewatch those early seasons; Hell changed his character a LOT.) Anyway. Sam's entire life was orchestrated and manipulated by demons; his mother was killed, his father died, his brother in hell, his chosen future destroyed, his fiance murdered, all in an attempt to control him. Even his body (the demon blood in his veins force-fed to him as a baby) and his mind (the psychic visions he can't control) are altered and manipulated by demons, in order to get him to open Lucifer's cage and be Lucifer's vessel. That's why he felt powerless. Dean being "bossy" was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Sam had other people limiting and controlling his choices for years. He's not foolish -- he's cornered. On a writing level, as a character, Sam needed a power boost in order to have any agency in the plot, instead of being dragged around by the baddies and forced to react, as he was stuck doing in S1-3. And as a character constantly foreshadowed as being capable of darkness, the writers needed to make sure whatever power he was able to get would fulfill that corrupting foreshadowing. He's written intentionally to be a Tragic Hero, a foil to Dean's Classical Hero. That's why the original ending for the series (season five) ends with Sam committing self-sacrifice and being stuck in the Cage for eternity (Tragic fated ending), and Dean getting the girl and the normal life (Classical happily ever after).

THEIR ACTING OMG 😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️

Omg I was balling at this part!! I was like this is not bobby!! Please be a demon!! Thank god for that..

I could instantly tell that wasn't Bobby. Bobby cares about his family, and he would get mad, but would NOT tell Sam to lose his number, he cares about the boys like they're his blood borne sons.

Bobby has said this to him Dean said this to him And his father said this to him And people wonder why he’s so messed up

@Rulebreaker892

15 күн бұрын

THATS WHAT AM SAYING!

This was so hard to watch the first time :(

Aw those puppy dog eyes

I HATE THIS SCENE But at least Sam Admitted to Bobby about what he did. But I Believe this is the time that Dean stated losing faith in Sam. Sam wouldn't listen to Dean or Bobby. I Truly Understand why Sam was on a Mission and So Driven. Because of what happen to Dean. I Can't Blame Sam for doing what he Believed was the Right thing too Do for Revenge. I Wouldn't have been that Hash on Sam. That was Fucking Brutal I would have Forgiven Sam if he had given me that look with those Puppy Dog Eyes.

The apocalypse was the angels and demons’ fault, not Sam or Dean. They were both manipulated.

I know Bobby was possesed but Dean just watching like Sam deserved it while he broke the first sigil and because he started torturing people and Sam never once gave Dean the same treatment

@altinaykor364

3 жыл бұрын

your stupid ass cannot see the difference between that Dean needed 30 years of loneliness and torture to break and even in that time he didn't think that someday it will be over or some angel might come!with Sam who choose a demon over his own brother over and over!lied for months, drinking demon blood,abusing possessed bodies (if one of them would survive,they would never forgive Sam for it,as for eternity! because he literally used their suck situation as a demon meatsuite for his own benefit!) while his brother told him over and over not to do it, forgave him for all those lies and secrets and actually tried to help,he never listened and even tried to kill him! while even Lilith indirectly told him that she has to die so the apocalypse could start!did he listen? that's why he screwed and is to blame so much more than Dean!and instead of taking responsibility for his actions, came and told I did all of this for Dean or because of Dean!as in the end blaming everything on Dean without even trying to understand where exactly he went wrong!

@odile8701

2 жыл бұрын

Right? Sam does his best to offer nothing but grace to others, especially his brother. And he so very rarely receives any grace or understanding in return.

saddest scene in supernatural. In my opinion

ok guys can we just come to an agreement that the apocalypse was a team effort? I mean come on, I see people hating on Sam and then people hating on Dean and then on Cas... Dean broke the first seal, Sam broke the last and Cas was the one who let sam out of the panic room (i understand why dean was mad but he also wanted to kill Lilith too, nobody knew that she was the last seal, in no way am i hating on Dean, this is just my personal opinion) Sam didn’t deserve what Bobby had said to him and sure, Sam screwed up but in the end he was the one who saved the world by jumping in the pit oh and also the angels altered the voicemail (i think Sam would’ve stopped or at least hesitated if he had heard the real one because he would’ve known that Dean still saw him as a brother and not some monster) if that makes sense

Yeah Bobby would NEVER in a MILLION years say this.

Correct, this actually wasn't Bobby, this was possessed Bobby.

I know people are talking about the blame game here. But if anything what really irritates me most is the fact Dean (and I love Dean) could not live wothout Sam. Which Sam is like to, but Dean died, horrifically infront of Sam. Went to Hell and Sam could do nothing to save him, before or after he went. Everyrhing Sam tried didn't work. So yeah Dean lost Sam, but Sam also lost Dean, had to bury him, live a year trying and failing to save him. (Which really fd Sam up) Which brought Sam to the self destuctive point which Ruby fully took advantage of. And after all that and after Sam sees the error of his ways and trys to make right, Dean just continues to through it in his face. Even when the tables are turned and Sam does anything to save Dean (like Dean always does for Sam) he throughs it in his face. My point is, I always see this series as the road which lead Sam to the trials, becuase this series it just feels like whatever he does is not good enough and Dean does not even recognise this until Sam is completing the third trial.

I CANT WATCH THIS ITS TOO PAINFUL

Sams sweet watery eyes. I bet Bobby regretted saying that. 😤

It's okay, Bobbys possessed! It's the demon talking! Their papa would never say that!

WHY DID I WATCH THIS AGAIN AAAAAHHHHHHH I’M WRITHING ON MY BED SQUEAKING OUT OF SADNESS AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

"You're sorry you started armageddon!? This kind of thing dont get forgiven boy!"

Bobby was possessed by a demon in this scene

@altinaykor364

4 жыл бұрын

and dean was possessed by a ghost in 8. 6 but everything both of them said was true!only something they didn't want to admit to hurt sam!

One of my favorite Bobby dad moments Bobby didn't mean what he said

my heart!

Sammy!!! Omg i dont know what to say!!!!!!

I think this was the first sign that Bobby was possessed and I just chalked it up to weird writing. When I got to this scene recently, aside from finding it sad, I was confused. It didn't seem like the kind of reaction I would expect from Bobby. In a way it's reasonable because of the situation, which is why it's not too weird that the guys accept it, but at the same time you would think Bobby wouldn't just give up on Sam and rip into him that way. It's like when Dean knew Azazel was possessing John because of how he was acting.

@Dazzlefae

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts are that Sam believed he deserved it, so he isn't gonna question it. As far as he knows, Bobby was all for leaving him locked in the Panic Room to stop him from drinking demon blood, and not willing to give him more and let him kill Lilith, which is what he actually suggested to Dean. And Dean, he's too pissed at Sam right now to really think about the fact that Bobby would never say this, because he agrees with what the Demon was saying to some extent at this point in time... It's sad, but their emotions were getting in the way of judgement at this point in time, because they both agreed with the Demon to some extent...

Poor Sammy, I hated Bobby after this until I figured out it was a demon

@KrystleHamilton131

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I was so mad at Bobby.

Dean sounds like a parent when he says " Sam stop it

I literally died watching this scene

but in the previous season he was like (to dean ) sam ur family, u cant pick and choose

That title got it right.

Damn, Sam. Everybody disowning your ass

I knew it wasn't Bobby while he was still talking

Is it just me or does this scene also seems to happen earlier on in the show ?! I can’t be crazy ugh I need answers 😩! It’s like a strong sense of Deja vu because I swear we got a glimpse of Bobby telling Sam this exact same thing ! I need the ep and season 😭

Bobby was possessed by a demon at this point.

Bobby may have been possessed, but i wasn't surprised by him saying it, considering him and Dean and John always treated Sam badly, sure Bobby was better to him that the others but still. Can't really blame Sam for believing and trusting the only person that didn't treat him like an outcast who did nothing right.

that killed me.

What episode/season was that?

Hey sam i know you did some things and i know that you are hurting i just want you to know that you can be in family are family we are here for you

What episode was this again?

Didn't sam just imagine this? Hallucination brought on by Lucifer fucking his mind up.

@bumbumjj5095

6 жыл бұрын

Ricky Ray nope that was in season 7 this is season 5 and Bobby was possessed in this scene

I thought it meant bobby ripped sam limb from limb

Which episode is this?

So it turns out later that Bobby was possessed here, right? What I don't get is what the hell was Bobby doing not wearing some kinda protective pentagram something??? Also, poor Sam...

SAM STOP

I don’t get why people are so mad at Sam when Dean was the first one that opened the seal so I don’t get why everyone’s blaming it on Sam LIKE WTF

I always hated how in this scene Dean doesn't speak up

Yes Bobby would be mad but as soon as he said you need to lose my number I knew it wasn’t Bobby he would never have said that yes he be mad but he’s their adopted dad and he would never do that to his boys

Season 5 ep 1

What episode is this

This was the moment when I realised Bobby was possessed. Honestly. Bobby would never act like that and say this to Sam

@hfelder_03

Жыл бұрын

Sam had it coming though. A simple “sorry” wasn’t going to erase everything he did to start Armageddon. Dean warned him a fuck ton of times to stop what he was doing but he wouldn’t.

episode?

At 0:53 I just knew that couldnt be Bobby

thats not Bobby its a demon

that doesnt count, cause Bobby was possed

That wasn't easy to watch 😪

That was not Bobby, gays!!!At this moment Bobby was possessed from a Demon and he doesn’t want to say this. Bobby always will forgive everything and will do everything for these boys. ❤️

I'm re-watching supernatural and when this part happened I legit cried bc I didn't remember it and couldn't believe Bobby would ever say that to Sammy, even if he was the dummy that freed Lucifer

I mean how do you forgive someone for bringing about the end of the world?

@yarafelipe4323

5 жыл бұрын

Dean broke the first seal, Sam broke the last one and Cas let Sam out of the panic room. They all were a little guilty, don't say it's all Sam's fault.

Is not Bobby is Meg, Bobby possessed by Meg episode 5x01

Dean tortured people tho

What episode is this?

@alancaddie8138

7 жыл бұрын

Bibiche Verlinde episode 1 of season 5

Makes me wanna cry for Sam. But then again Lucifer, Crowley ain’t bad guys further down the road.

@brmnihad2549

5 жыл бұрын

Lucifer has daddy issues but he's still evil and just bad period. There's not a drop of good in him. But I agree about Crowley. Lucifer needs to return in his cage though or disapear for good.

MY TO

There is one thing here that nobody mentions. Dean stood there and did not say anything when Bobby said what he did. He seemed to agree wholeheartedly with Bobby. Very out of character

@odile8701

2 жыл бұрын

Not out of character at all. He may not actually be willing to go so far as to say these things out loud; but in that moment, he agreed with every word. He calms down, and sees things from a slightly wider perspective eventually, but it’s not really until the end of the season that he actually fully makes peace with Sam. And it takes Sam risking the world on his faith in Dean, for Dean to have faith in Sam again.

Igit

slay Bobby

@augiegerro5949

7 жыл бұрын

Ally Cat its a demon

@lucybug72

4 жыл бұрын

Slay demon!

@altinaykor364

3 жыл бұрын

Stupid

My emotions,MY EMOTIONS (个_个)(个_个)(个_个)(个_个)(个_个)(╯︵╰,)(╯︵╰,)(╯︵╰,)(╯︵╰,)╥﹏╥ I'm 😢 crying. My heart is broken, Thanks alot Bobby!(￣(エ)￣)