For context, here's how the PSU is supposed to work: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZIegx8OTZpvAf5M.html Support GN in its testing endeavors by getting something useful in return! You can grab a GN Wireframe Desk-Sized Mouse Mat, a Red & Black GPU component mouse pad, PC building Modmat work surfaces, and more: store.gamersnexus.net/ OR you can get behind-the-scenes videos showing even more of our testing processes, many hosted by Patrick Stone: www.patreon.com/gamersnexus "GN, you should do this testing with a safe PSU to prove it!" Already did. Check this one out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pGucsM-umd2zcps.html Watch Part 1 (Gigabyte PSU Fires): kzread.info/dash/bejne/k3V31raYot26n6w.html Part 2 (Response to Gigabyte): kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqinldKvksasn9Y.html

@Dumbakuma

2 жыл бұрын

I shall. Once I have the money. I know it's 100% worth the buy!!

@Ravendarat

2 жыл бұрын

Just throwing this out there but would it maybe be prudent to use a PSU from another company in the same wattage/price range go through the exact same testing just to show that a properly built PSU can handle exactly what just killed that Gigabyte one.

@faceplants2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ravendarat They did that in the first video covering these power supplies. They covered multiple competing models that all turned off with OPP without exploding

@Ravendarat

2 жыл бұрын

@@faceplants2 Oh perfect, somehow I missed that. Thank You!!

@CosmicCleric

2 жыл бұрын

TY for your consumer advocacy.

The Counter Strike intro is the best thing I have seen all week

@MegaFiIm

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is!

@rhekman

2 жыл бұрын

lol at the credits

@GamersNexus

2 жыл бұрын

It's been a long time since I played last, but I still remember all the CS Source maps (and some early GO) like the back of my hand!

@sulphurous2656

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus CSS best CS

@hadharigamerz

2 жыл бұрын

Css thicc hitbox

Gigabyte be like: but the PSU was used for 600 years before you did the single cut

@GameTimeWhy

2 жыл бұрын

Hate when that happens.

@Okusar

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. GN should have started with a new, in-box PSU to prove that it hadn't been abused before testing.

@StuPV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Okusar If it works when they plug it in, it should remain working. Or, OPP should work as intended and shut it down before it explodes. If it explodes, it's a bad unit regardless

@myopinionbetter4287

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally unfair they used a psu that has been used once out of the box before rather than using a brand new unit from the factory. What? Does he think the normal consumer uses the same psu for more than 2 days?

@afelias

2 жыл бұрын

Inb4 Gigabyte demands that you use a specific PSU from a specific lot that was wiped clean before testing and was fed only the choicest AC wall power from a socket manufactured in...

You guys should make the most dangerous modern computer. The NZXT case that caught on fire , this PSU, a 3090 playing new world (yes I know, not enough powah) and throw a crappy water loop in there to really make it jazzy .

@SoloBlankets

2 жыл бұрын

the bad water-cooling is tactical so that the leaks put all the fires out.

@davidparker.2227

2 жыл бұрын

@@SoloBlankets Lmao

@nowunused4631

2 жыл бұрын

and to add insult to injury add a made in vietnam sticker on the bottom of the case

@quantumsniper9433

2 жыл бұрын

and the z690 formula board that caught fire

@PatsliTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@nowunused4631 what’s wrong with made in Vietnam

It would be great to see you guys demonstrate the exact same test conditions with a seasonic or similar psu to show what should happen, that in turn would prove its not your test that’s the problem. Great work guys.

@perwestermark8920

2 жыл бұрын

Just that with a good PSU, nothing happens. But a test where nothing happens isn't a proof. That's looking at a murderer when the murderer doesn't murder anyone. That would not prove it isn't a murderer.

@johannespeeters7368

2 жыл бұрын

@@perwestermark8920???

@perwestermark8920

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannespeeters7368 It means just what I'm saying. With a good PSU, the PSU will shut off when it reaches the protection limit. Then it will start again after you remove the overload and cycle power. Rinse and repeat and all you see is still a working PSU. To make it meaningful, they would need to make a *real* time laps where they continue this cycle hundreds or thousands of times just to show that it works, and stays working. It's easy to demonstrate broken equipment just because you can capture the failure. But how to capture a non-failure? When is enough enough? If we were talking about PSU without protection, a good or bad unit could be demonstrated by showing the amount of safety margin. But when the tested PSU have overload protection, you can't. Except to show what happens when the overload protection does *not* work. As in this specific case. So it's bit like "how to prove you do *not* beat your wife"...

@johannespeeters7368

2 жыл бұрын

@@perwestermark8920 i think your metaphors need some work but i get that you cant keep doing it but the point is just to show what happens normally and that doesnt need to be done a lot(just like an hour) . Even if its as unimpressive as just shutting off.

@perwestermark8920

2 жыл бұрын

@@johannespeeters7368 They have already shown Gigabyte PSU *not* failing. Because not every of the Gigabyte PSU ends up exploding. Just that at least two have ended with something broken when it reached the overload condition and have then given an explosive failure when restarted at 60% load. I.e. the overload protection circuit itself does not cut off the load in a safe way - something breaks (not always, but often) when the overload circuit trigs. It behaves a bit like when you cut the power to an inductor without any freewheel diode - the magnetic energy ends up inducing a large voltage that kills the transistor that disconnected the power. So the turn off looks ok - but next turn on will show the result of the zapped transistor.

This will now spark a competitive speedrun category and lead to the shortage of these units as everyone tries to get a wr. I am expecting the price of these to skyrocket as times get more and more competitive while the supply drops. Then desperate speedrunners will beg gigabyte "will you please, please, please make more of these?" but the hardcore community will reject anything but the original series and it will lead to leaderboard splitting.

@BigDrewski1000

2 жыл бұрын

Spark competition, I see what you did there. 😉😉

@Mooplet

2 жыл бұрын

i was thinking about submitting a run to the "any% ignition" ladder but now im thinking the real competition will be in the max% category where we see how much of the unit can be melted and the timer stops when the flames go out

@redditor001

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for fall ACDQ2021 speedruns.

@kinomora-gaming

2 жыл бұрын

I spat out my drink

@katarh

2 жыл бұрын

I have an unopened one that I will happily donate to the cause.

Praise the camera man ! I love how he noticed the 7 segments display flickering and quickly adjusted the camera shutter speed for our greatest pleasure. Good quality video as always !

@timhartherz5652

2 жыл бұрын

Not that many people even know how to deal with multiplexed displays like that, much less have the camera to compensate for something like that.

@Nareimooncatt

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that as well.

@aaaa6824

2 жыл бұрын

For the Emperor!

@MilitantPotato

2 жыл бұрын

Kept on the subject while sorting it out, too!

@thatsreallyamoon

2 жыл бұрын

thought I was the only one who’s ever emergency-adjusted a camera’a shutter while actually recording to avoid those annoying headlight/dashboard flickering a for videos 😂 good on him

A "pre-emptive explosion" is the equivalent of "You can't fire me, I quit!"

@ryanjofre

Жыл бұрын

😂 You can’t collect unemployment if you quit!

Seeing him put his hand directly on the power supply while the headphone warning was on screen is the tensest I've felt watching this channel.

Any % Glitchless WR PSU Death Speedrun

@swung0x48

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the PSU glitched out lol

@randomgamer6118

2 жыл бұрын

Sponsored by gigabyte

@yukisaitou5004

2 жыл бұрын

I really wanna see Steve run the All MOSFETs category now

@exxor9108

2 жыл бұрын

Damn. You beat me to it. XD

@kenabi

2 жыл бұрын

12:52:17

shout-out to the camera guy at 3:15 who probably went "i've got to fix my shutter speed ASAP" and did so flawlessly 👍

@tclemens96

2 жыл бұрын

or the zero flinch from the explosion. just a couple smooth steps back.

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔.......,,,,

@stonium69

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 i don't think gigabyte understands why they actually need "protection" with overpower protection

@bananya6020

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 the point is that if i did the same test on a seasonic PSU, it would shut down safely every single time.

@Hafiere

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 The PSU is supposed to shut itself off before damage occurs. If the PSU stays at high enough load to cause damage before hitting OPP, that's Gigabyte's fault for shipping the PSU with such configuration. At no point do I recall GN modifying OPP; OPP was set by Gigabyte. GN was only simulating a high load at the power output.

Insightful: 60% load after successful OPP = plasma arc / soiled underwear / DOA / no RMA. Good to know. Gigabyte crossed off my build-list. Thank you!

@cheeseyoger

2 жыл бұрын

Hanes, however, did have excellent customer service. They really got me sorted out quickly. Haven't tested Fruit of the Loom; updates to come.

@Search4TruthReality

2 жыл бұрын

@@cheeseyoger :-) ha ha.

@BanglaUniversebd

2 жыл бұрын

Can you plz suggest me a reliable psu for my 1000w pc build

@BanglaUniversebd

2 жыл бұрын

Can u plz suggest me a reliable psu for my 1000w build.... Plzzzz

@Search4TruthReality

2 жыл бұрын

@@BanglaUniversebd I chose EVGA Supernova 1000 G+ for my system, which provide plenty of room for expansion into water cooling, LEDs, etc. I've been running this PSU for eight months with no issues. MY SYSTEM: ASUS ProArt x570-Creator WiFi motherboard; AMD Ryzen 9 5000 series; PNY NVIDIA RTX A5000 graphic card; Noctua N-D15 Chroma Black cooling fan; G.SKILL Trident Z NEO DDR4 RAM. I edit video, create print art using Adobe Creative Cloud and I game, as well - Call of Duty, War Thunder, and Overwatch. Hope this helps. Good luck!

This video is a titan-class power move, holy shit. Mad props to you guys for giving Gigabyte a massive slap to the face that they very much deserve.

Next Gigabyte press release: “Media outfits promoted an unintended use of our high quality power supply, which is orienting it in vertical fashion.”

@Doofindork

2 жыл бұрын

The classic Apple method of "You're holding it wrong". It wouldn't surprise me at all if they did this.

@chrinaldi

2 жыл бұрын

"We take these problems extremely seriously. Thus, we have concluded that all of our buyers are in extreme need of education on avoiding tripping the high OPP of the PSU."

@tarron3237

2 жыл бұрын

You mean like in a lot of modern PC cases? 🤔😅

@hammyboigaming904

2 жыл бұрын

They'll say that running the PSU at over 50% is bad

@plazasta

2 жыл бұрын

"plus... the members of this media outfit had their tongue in the wrong position in their mouth. That can make the PSU explode. Yeah you can make a lot of things explode. PLUS... if you hold one toe up while pushing the other toe down, you can also make the PSU explode"

Up next from Gigabyte: "questionable media outlet improperly tested our high quality PSU by not installing it atop the insulation pads. As explained by the verge pc guy."

@alphaplayzz1381

2 жыл бұрын

Tweezers (zipties) were not used in the test and the fan was not suffocated, verge pc tester at gigabyte headquarters clearly demonstrates this is a completely incorrect usage scenario

@DatGamingKid1

2 жыл бұрын

The verge guy would probably think the power supply is a battery

@alphaplayzz1381

2 жыл бұрын

@@DatGamingKid1 "some pc batteries can be expensive, but I bought this 10 million watt battery from Amazon for $5, you can choose what you use though'

@user-to9lk8ix6h

2 жыл бұрын

Just hammer it in there.

@ShamblerDK

2 жыл бұрын

You make them sound like the Chinese Communist Party...

Steve: "this video is brought to you by Corsair" Gigabyte: "Heeeeyyyy"

"It's almost like gigabyte uses DC Electronic load testers in it's factory", that would explain why there have been so many DOA power supplies, gigabyte have already conducted "repeatly" the OPP trip tests "for an extended period" using a "DC electronic load"

@addictedtoRS

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The blatant stubbornness in their reply to GN is astounding for such a large company that previously had a good rep. They are just shooting themselves in the foot.

@trevc

2 жыл бұрын

@@addictedtoRS They didn't have a good rep though, even going back decades. The name Gigabyte represents poor QC and failing products.

@noxide23

2 жыл бұрын

@@trevc yep can confirm, i had a gigabyte motherboard 19 years ago it failed after couple of months of use, all i did was play call of duty 1 and battlefield 1942, unsure what it was but whatever happened it fried, i still remember the smell i was only 13 at the time so i had nfi lol ever since then never touched that brand again.

@sheik124

Жыл бұрын

@@trevc eh. they weren't perfect but they weren't exactly ECS - who is still around and making garbage. Anecdotes mean both very little (to others) and a whole ton (to yourself, if it's your anecdote) but I always held them a rung higher than e.g. Zotac or MSI (baffles me that they're popular now - they were _garbage_ when I got into this hobby) but just a hair under ASUS. "ASRock tier" or "ASUS's board was out of stock/too expensive/missing a feature" tier. And there were "better" companies that are either no longer around, or no longer making consumer, gamer, or US market hardware: e.g. DFI, EPoX, SOYO. I think I've had more Gigabyte video cards than any other manufacturer, except for XFX in recent years. No issues with a single one of them. Bought a lot of three used ones with one DOA that I realized had clearly been used for mining after receiving it - two of them had the _wrong_ vBIOS on them, wrong DRAM type. They RMA'd it no questions asked...although I did manage to reflash the proper factory vBIOS on it first by sticking it in a machine with a working GPU. Feel _significantly_ less guilty about that now after learning how slimy they are. My Gigabyte Z68 board is to date the only motherboard I've ever had fail on me, after ~5 years of running it overclocked, and I don't fault it entirely since the HX620 that was running it went kaboom a few months before that. After seeing this, I am now wondering if the _motherboard_ took the PSU out pre-emptively, lol. Replaced it with a beat up ASUS Z77 board and realized what I was missing. I had tons of BIOS and POST issues with the Gigabyte board from day one, overclocked or not. I dialed the same exact overclock into the replacement board and then _went even higher_ and its rock solid. Long live Ivy Bridge. Ivy Bridge is dead.

@verchielGold

2 ай бұрын

​@@noxide23use 5600 with gigabyte s2h and x570 gaming X all fine

I have a suggestion to really turn the knife: make a "Certain Media Outfits" t-shirt.

@Thermalions

2 жыл бұрын

I can see it making it onto the 2021 shirt.

@thetalesofdaneandco

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, man. I would buy the hell out of that shirt.

@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172

2 жыл бұрын

Or better yet, just get a consumer protection agency or a class action lawsuit to fuck gigabyte harder than they could ever imagine

@Lanka0Kera

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't just "The Certain Media Outfit" work?

@bgtubber

2 жыл бұрын

The "N" in "certain" should be the Gamers Nexus logo.

A part of me hopes Gigabyte keeps denying the need for a general recall, so that GN will keep making savage PSU video's.

@thetalesofdaneandco

2 жыл бұрын

And so that a more formal recall may be in order. I love when companies are forced into doing the right thing, rather than being able to deny, deny, deny and then let up at the last second and call themselves the good guy.

@seriouscat2231

2 жыл бұрын

I have been watching videos recently, by two guys who have lived there for more than a decade, about China. Culturally Taiwan is part of China. The problem is, they just psychologically can't assign blame or take responsibility, unless forced. This is the same with Thermaltake's bad case designs. Nobody is allowed to say that there is a problem. The guy who designed this thing, and possibly the guy who hired him, is already gone.

@sagephil

2 жыл бұрын

If gigabyte keeps denying GN should take a bunch of the same PSUs and make them race each other to death.

@krazycharlie

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte: "I reject your reality and substitute my own". Steve: "Steve wants big boom". Gigabyte: "Am I missing an eyebrow?".

@Fractal_blip

2 жыл бұрын

@@krazycharlie smh

I had my PSU (seasonic 750 titanium) going in short circuit protection under certain loads because (after weeks of trying figuring it out blaming bios settings, LLC voltages, usb devices etc... The pc just turned off sometimes after hours, sometimes never, often while alt tabbing with many things open like discord, game, overlays etc...) a naked metal inductor of the vrm was touching one screw of the monoblock... It saved all the pc at least 10 times before I could figure it out the real problem. Then there are PSU like this.

@jedighost72

Жыл бұрын

I wanted to say when seeing this video: Seasonic is the Bentley of Power Supplies! I'm unwilling to use anything else.

Safety glasses are highly recommended in working with exploding stuff. Otherwise, damn good job guys. Thanks for everything.

Explosion speedrun. Two words I never thought I'd hear together. Lol

@brianpeyton6083

2 жыл бұрын

This is hilarious, less than a minute in, quoting from a press release, this won't end well for gigabyte.

@The_Keeper

2 жыл бұрын

"Explosion Sppedrun." A surprise to be sure, but not an unwelcome one. :)

@lulalelilo

2 жыл бұрын

Whats's up guys, desinc here

@chrinaldi

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler Alert: When there's headphones warning on the video, YOU SHOULD HEED THAT WARNING.

@draconightwalker4964

2 жыл бұрын

reminds me of mythbusters

I love that this thumbnail FEELS clickbaity but is, in fact, 100% representative of just how bad this issue is. 😂

@notTerabyte

2 жыл бұрын

This is why GN is the best testing channel, if there's an issue, they put in a fuckton of effort to prove it and show that the companies are truly BSing us. (also hi badseed love your videos)

@ReksratYTB

2 жыл бұрын

It's reverse clickbait. It baits you in and completely delivers.

@negation4399

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, you're a fan of GN too? BadSeed + TechJesus collab when? xD

@BruceCarbonLakeriver

2 жыл бұрын

sometimes things are that representative :D

@macedk

2 жыл бұрын

I xp'ed that some years ago with a 500w psu. Loud bang and it tripped the circuit breaker. This was night time, so sitting in complete blackness and smelling burnt electronics was not fun.

The way Steve smiles at the beginning, his eyes really sparkled like the P750 when it exploded.

I'd love to see a real-time repeat of this test with a comparable known good PSU so we can directly see what the expected behavior is. Loving this kind of in-depth content, keep up the great work :)

@benruss4130

2 жыл бұрын

... Nothing would happen with a real PSU

@RaccChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen a lot of people say this in the comment but the PSU would just... turn back on like normal. Ideally you'd be able to repeat this test multiple times without failure as OPP should be tripping before the PSU is actually damaged. They even said in the video many of the PSUs were failing when the brought them back up to OPP, not when they were turned on to normal loads.

@TheHammerGuy94

2 жыл бұрын

well your request has been granted. they did the same thing with a brand new PSU from EVGA, that came straight out of the box. spoiler: it didn't explode... as you'd expect

@savagearma

2 жыл бұрын

What’s a real real PSU? The best thing on the market?

the counter strike SFX really enhanced my experience.

@MelterNeXus

2 жыл бұрын

It’s ATX (it's a joke)

@immxturelol

2 жыл бұрын

@@MelterNeXus ?

@oleanderthor-borre9506

2 жыл бұрын

@@immxturelol sfx can also refer to a smaller psu, as they generally (for computers at least) come in two sizes. SFX and ATX.

@nathangamble125

2 жыл бұрын

@@oleanderthor-borre9506 Some SFF PCs have TFX or Flex-ATX PSUs.

@oleanderthor-borre9506

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathangamble125 ahh, well now I know. Thanks 👍

GN: "This video will be uncut." Me: **checks video length again** "oh this gonna be good"

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔 ...........lol

@lukephillips5618

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 lol

@rando843

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 I'm not an electrician but I believe that no, they would not explode if they're well designed, but good try Gigabyte employee

@APinchofDill

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 lmao did you even watch the video? A well designed PSU should see "5000w" and safely trip OPP and shutdown. Once you turned the PSU back on it should work as normal and not explode.

@aeNurMCMXC

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 lmao you bodoh or what? Don't understand the purpose of the video?

What I love about this is that you are literally experts in this field, performing real world experiments, and the manufacturer is adressing you as if you are just some guy with cameras. We live in a world were data, facts, and research dont matter. All that matters is who you choose to beleive.

Terrific video! Thanks for the testing. I own one of these that is within the serial number range they posted, and I want to sincerely thank you for the head's up on the potential failure probability. It prompted me to replace it before a failure, and might just have saved my components. Both Newegg and Gigabyte have been responsive to my inquiries into the "return and replace" mentioned in the Gigabyte press release. Hopefully I will get a correctly working PSU shortly.

Gigabyte: Noone is petty enough to actually prove us wrong Steve: It's not about being petty, _it's about the truth._

@TheSequimKid

2 жыл бұрын

It’s like Linus said. Steve is a dog with a bone.

@VladMcCain

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte; you can’t handle the truth!

@vektor_z7208

2 жыл бұрын

@@VladMcCain heck, I wanted to comment that hahahaha.

@derekschommer1465

2 жыл бұрын

And also about being petty.

@chrinaldi

2 жыл бұрын

Gigabyte is petty enough to issue DC load testing is "not real" and refusing to honor RMAs. An eye for an eye.

I can't wait for Disappointment build 2021, I have a feeling I know exactly what riser and PSU are going to be used.

@alphaplayzz1381

2 жыл бұрын

Fireworks

@TheWingusDingus

2 жыл бұрын

The only question is which would take that build out first, the fire or the explosion? 🤣

@SashaIsNotAvailable

2 жыл бұрын

Depends, do you put the emphasis on 'disappointment' or 'build'? I feel like combining a GB PSU with an NZXT riser in one system would rather result in a disappointment demolition rather than a build...

@sinofsanity6593

2 жыл бұрын

Aha but the gigabyte PSU will fix the NZXT ryzer cable, cant catch fire if the PSU bites down on the hidden tooth cyanide pill first

@mycosys

2 жыл бұрын

*deflagration build

Just got back into PC building since 15' and so glad I picked Evga for my PSU & GPU. Had not seen your channel at the time. Was tempted to buy a Gigabyte MB since the price was lower than comparative ones but Gigabyte was the only MB I had had issues with in the past so went with Asrock instead. I now understand why the price was lower. Thanks for all your hard work and you have a subscriber for life now. Now off to buy one of your cool pads. Thanks!

When he put PSU sideways I was thinking of those mines with label "towards your enemy" for direction of the blast :D

@jihamiya5755

2 жыл бұрын

🤭

@Rawsawn

2 жыл бұрын

claymore

I can't imagine what crosses the minds of these companies when they see a GN expose and are just like "Double down! He'll back off!"

@mistere5857

2 жыл бұрын

Out of touch PR people. Speaking as someone who has worked in fortune 500 companies, the people who decide on the response are generally in their late 40s and 50s and are completely out of touch with the new age mentality. Most old timers in these companies think they can lie their way out of incompetence and the "system" will protect them...because most of the time it does.

@chrinaldi

2 жыл бұрын

"In real-world, no one is going to use their PSU in the way that they have tested. Therefore, all the Newegg and Amazon reviews saying this PSU blows up are false. We will process the returns." Also Gigabyte: "Serial numbers don't help cus I can't read." Source: Reddit user saying that their Gigabyte PSU was not eligible for refund... for some reason... despite having the same serial number as posted with the refund terms.

@chrinaldi

2 жыл бұрын

@@mistere5857 Good news about the internet is that people are getting more and more informed. It's easier to just lie harder, but there has to be point that "lying is not lying if you don't get caught" certainly is getting harder and harder to the point that being a decent company is much easier anyways. And much more profitable to maintain their reputation.

@nehemz432

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrinaldi Noctua is an example of a company with good reputation. Even tho previously a shitty colored one.

@charlesselrachski34

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrinaldi in china all your refunds are belong to us

Gigabyte: "I don't want to name/fight you!" Steve: "I wouldn't wanna fight me neither."

@DamnCyrus

2 жыл бұрын

A Raimi meme in the wild

@DamnCyrus

2 жыл бұрын

@@EpicGamingEct but then it "trips" below what is advertised max power after hitting opp once

@themechanicalgirl6669

2 жыл бұрын

Thems fighten wordz pardner!

@AdodgerWho

2 жыл бұрын

@@EpicGamingEct Bro, you having fun copy/pasting this comment into every top comment thread? The problem isn't that it tripped at 130%, the problem is that it exploded at 60%.

@Hierax415

2 жыл бұрын

"Your already dead."

Gigabyte uses small, closely calculated mosfets that have high resistance causing it to heat up alot, they could change their mosfets to bigger and low resistance ones or just the heatsink and pad and change their ocp because this on is bad af but ofc they wont do anything.

Great and professional, as always. If I've been looking for a new PSU, this is exactly what I would like to know before I make a purchase (in this case a risky one). Thanks for sharing guys!

I love how you guys will continuously hammer them harder when they don't admit to their mistakes. This goes for any company you guys have reviewed and will review in the future.

@farawaythrower

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, Gamers Nexus is a blessing to the entirety of the tech community. I really wish they were even more well known so more people could be better informed about these important things.

@chapstickbomber

2 жыл бұрын

"Just repent and we'll stop lashing you."

@sandwichdriving1013

2 жыл бұрын

Holding Gigabyte accountable is the only way to make them correct this. A pat on the shoulder isn't gonna roll here.

@moe6806

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure Steve's just mad that gigabyte refused to give them anymore freebies. I have the same exact PSU going strong for over 2 years now.

@explanoit

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how few people would know about this if Gigabyte just immediately offered warranty returns and didn't dispute the results. There'd just be buyers complaining in reviews and one video saying Gigabyte was fixing it. So dumb.

GN is a tour de force in this industry. NOTHING gets past these guys. Impressive work and invaluable to us as consumers.

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔.........xD

@coolmemesbudd

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 You should start paying attention more, it clearly explodes only when under smaller loads and does so numerous times. If the 1050W was what was killing it, how come none of them exploded at that stress point?

@bonelessempire1451

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 they've saved us all so much money and time thank you GN!!!

@mahedul

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 The fact that the psu literally explodes should leave gigabyte responseless and immediately call every psu out there. A psu should never explode no matter the wattage.

@kingcosmuder8078

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 wait what are you trying to say? It was failing under lower wattage

1:23 They just took note from the Portal 2 ending: "Reactor explosion timer destroyed. Reactor explosion uncertainty emergency preemption protocol initiated: this facility will self-destruct in two minutes."

After finishing electrical school videos like this are super interesting to me. Thank god there are guys like you that are willing to take the time and risk the burns to test these things to failure for the rest of us

I pulled this same PSU from my daughter's gaming PC this weekend. The Gigabyte PSU was part of the NewEgg shuffle for an RTX 3070. I'm hoping GN's investigation will lead to a recall and a refund.

@Rexwizord

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt. Gigabyte is way too cheap and Chinese HQd to get anything done. Not in a discriminatory way, following in MSIs footsteps (although they are Taiwanese) by never admitting negligence. And their US offices can't do shit right now.

@spdlmt307

2 жыл бұрын

I got one with my gpu from the shuffle as well. Glad I never opened it up. ^^

@rockking1379

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Except I saw the issue videos before the psu was deployed. It’s still in the original plastic wrap on a shelf. Not sure if it works or not. Or even what the serial number is. Worst case I make it a bench top psu for hobby electronic projects where I don’t care if I blows up.

@MaJieMao

2 жыл бұрын

Wise choice

@teazqt812

2 жыл бұрын

Newegg burn your house down shuffle

I love when this happens (companies trying to discredit Steve and his team's findings), because Steve goes full savage and shows how dedicated he and his team are to the community. They look badly behaving multi million/billion dollar companies straight in the eyes, kick them in the balls, and then absolutely destroy them when they keep up with their b.s.

@MacBoiiPr0

2 жыл бұрын

the entire industry fears this man

@enlightendbel

2 жыл бұрын

What's even greater is he clearly shows they aren't just putting massive load on one connector. He's showing they opened up some of these PSUs to figure out the rails and created loads for every single rail in the PSU separately, by connecting all the necessary cables to all rails. That's dedicated and perfect methodology.

@alexmarin7897

2 жыл бұрын

There are a couple of problems with Steve's testing. (A) Firstly he loaded this PSU for a prolonged time above its rated power. You might think that 2-5 minutes is short time but it actually is very long time in relative terms. These power supplies are not designed to expect a sustained load above their rated value but instead they are only expecting brief spikes. Spikes can be created because of inductors, etc and they only last a few ms. So although during their service life these PSUs may see the power shooting momentarily to 1000W or 1200W they are definitely not designed to see the load remaining there for seconds let alone minutes. That is hundreds of thousands of times longer time than expected. (B) More importantly when the failure occurred he essentially had a big step-function current (or equivalently power) draw. The load went from 0W to 450W in a microsecond. Such high current slew rates (rate of increase of current) are incredibly damaging to the components of the PSU. In real PCs, both the motherboards and the add-in parts (GPUs, etc) are designed in a way that limit the current slew rate to exactly avoid such step functions which can lead to a catastrophic failure. What Steve and Patrick should have done was to ramp up the current/power in smaller increments or use an inrush current limiter (which can simply be a thermistor) between the load and the power supply. So yeah Gigabyte is absolutely right on this one. Not saying that there aren't other design issues on Gigabyte's PSUs that can lead to catastrophic failure but Gamers Nexus' methodology (especially the huge current slew rate) is just way too brutal. ATX PC power supplies are simply not designed or validated for such a DC Load Step Response.

@patrickb18946

2 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for the Blue Origin style infographic showing that his shop doesn't really exist and his stuff is unsafe.

Finished my first PC build back in March, uses Seasonic for the PSU (after a bit of research on the internet) And this is why people should do some research rather than choosing 'brand'. Thank you for making the video, great job as always

The security cam video made me realize how calm and committed your camera operator is. That's awesome! You two flinched but they just kept filming.

I knew that boom was coming with all the headphone warning signs but it still startled me

@selrah

2 жыл бұрын

I was shocked at how load it was too.

@themightypizzadevourer6018

2 жыл бұрын

Yooo dapz

@Sakirth

2 жыл бұрын

I was actually in time to turn down the volume. But then the message disappeared and I thought I'd missed it so I turned up the volume again. I think I need new pants too...

@triadwarfare

2 жыл бұрын

They should've added a timer instead of having the message disappear thinking we're in the clear.

@C4PTAINinsano

2 жыл бұрын

@@triadwarfare indeed. Countdown from like 15s.

How bad do you want the PR-disaster to be? Gigabyte: YES! Oh man.. I hope they put more effort into their mainboards..

@fs0cieety

2 жыл бұрын

I used to have Gigabyte motherboard and it was all right. Currently I use their 27' monitor since 2020 and I am very satisfied.

@fs0cieety

2 жыл бұрын

@CALLER ID actually I never updated the firmware because it is hooked to my XBOX. How do you even update it, just curious? You download update file from PC and install it?

@fs0cieety

2 жыл бұрын

@CALLER ID thanks for reply. I see. Thats so unprofessional of them.

@hellterminator

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, not feeling so hot about my Aorus x570 anymore.

@GbpsGbps-vn3jy

2 жыл бұрын

@CALLER ID Yeah, ASUS also have their moments

Gigabyte’s PR is the same as any catastrophe in a dictatorship: deny, deny, blame someone else.

Thank you for the good journalism and test work!

BREAKING NEWS! EVGA will be renaming one of their PSU lines - they say Gigabyte can now use "Supernova" for their PSU's.

@KiraSlith

2 жыл бұрын

Right there with the "Fireball" HDDs and "Firestorm" cooler.

@str1kerxx

2 жыл бұрын

MSI came first and removed the whole "lightning" series :D

@countvonthizzle9623

2 жыл бұрын

Terrence & Philip from "South Park" are giving up "Assholes on Fire"

@gorkskoal9315

2 жыл бұрын

LOL.

@awdrifter3394

2 жыл бұрын

EVGA should name their PSU White Dwarf, it'll be putting out energy steadily for billions of years.

Corsair really missed the mark with advertising their PC case, this was literally the best opportunity for their PSUs 😂

@LRM12o8

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt Steve would agree to that. It could make him look biased.

@gauravmohore3034

2 жыл бұрын

Last year my VS550 exploded with better sound than gigabyte 😐

@firenado4295

2 жыл бұрын

@@gauravmohore3034 oh, oh no, thats the same psu i have.... should i be worried? i had it go off on thermal overload once or twice but i put that down to the fact its pared with an fx8350 and is in a shit case

@erichb4530

2 жыл бұрын

@@firenado4295 check the PSU serial number, gigabyte will swap it out if you're in specific serial number range. also make sure you have this exact model, not all Gigabyte PSU's have this issue.

@brayannexon4613

2 жыл бұрын

Nah my ax850i can't power my system correctly opp kicks in at a small load.

I just replaced my faulty, old PSU. It was triggering some protection (Current, power, thermal idk) every time I loaded a heavy gaming scene, making my entire PC shutdown instantly and restart. Unsure what the problem was, I thought it was my mixed RAM at first, I did a lot of testing and used my PC for a week or 2/3 in this state for work and lighter games. It crashed like two dozen times before I replaced the PSU to find that that was the fix. Now just imagine I had a PSU with a fault like this. I could've blown my entire PC. It's just insulting to see Gigabyte denying there is a serious problem here. And btw I almost actually bought a GP-P750GM as replacement, but didn't because it had low user reviews. So thanks reviewers.

"You down with OPP?" "Yeah, you know me!" -Gigabyte, probably

@Gankhisprawn

2 жыл бұрын

I hope the brilliance of this comment doesn’t go unnoticed.

@lannik_0

2 жыл бұрын

It's noticed... excavated, dusted and still judged funny after all these years 👍😊

@charlesandresen-reed1514

2 жыл бұрын

Well done :)

Might be a dumb question but if that testing machine is drawing power from the psu what does it do with all those Watts? does it just heat up?

@GamersNexus

2 жыл бұрын

Not dumb at all! Yes, it basically turns into heat. You can hear the fan ramping really hard at some points during testing because the test machine is attempting to shed the heat. Very good question!

@tiestofalljays

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus Back to you, Steve!

@danielengelkenjohn7278

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiestofalljays Thanks, Steve

@yanuehara8017

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus heat: aka basically the only electric energy conversion that is literally 100% efficient!

@estoyboy

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus thanks for the answer! 👍🏾

"Gigabyte was afraid to name us. It's OK, I would be too if I were Gigabyte." Damn Steve, gore warning first!

@ProcessedDigitally

2 жыл бұрын

its a corporate response.. so lawyers do not have to get involved - its not about fear.

@Celiktaban

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProcessedDigitally yes people think these massive companies can simply say whatever they want.

@Nyx_2142

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProcessedDigitally So out of fear? Got it.

@CheapBastard1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@ProcessedDigitally Well being purposefully vague in responses that aren't audited by lawyers is OUT OF FEAR of being sued. So it's standard practice OUT OF FEAR!

@CheapBastard1988

2 жыл бұрын

@@Celiktaban Have you ever heard of an airline called Ryanair? When customers complain about them on Twitter the CEO just replies with: "We're the cheapest for a reason. No refunds!"

As soon as saw this video i changed the power supply p750 immediately, thank you man. Keep up the good work.

Dude, thank you for this video! you stopped me from buying a Gigabyte PSU, now I get why they are priced to be such a good deal!

Some say that the fireworks that lit up the sky on the evening of the Fourth of July were actually a series of Gigabyte PSUs exploding simultaneously.

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔......xD

@alexmills1329

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 OPP isn’t user configurable, this is how Gigabyte spec’d these power supplies. You clearly have very little clue as to what you’re talking about so please just keep your mouth closed until you take advanced electronic design and math classes before making an ignorant statement

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

:D those nut guy.., use 750w psu & run at 1050w omg crazy guys. Keep bleeding the transistor inside again & again until make them explode on purpose lolol 😂 you try use msi psu then & bleed it with 5000w opp test a few time & see msi psu will explode or not..hahah try it....,

@prunn

2 жыл бұрын

this is how Die Hard 4 actually started...

@samwallace7341

2 жыл бұрын

Oh lawd they won't live this down either ....all they had to do was to admit they fucked up

So nerve-racking watching this video. Every time Stone put his hand near that power supply I was like, "Noooooooooooo!"

@sultanofsick

2 жыл бұрын

I about had a heart attack when I saw him holding an "exploded" PSU in his hand waving it around, until I realized that was the "fresh" one that is next up for the executioner's block. And then I stroked out when he went back and ripped open the exploded one in the same take. He's for sure WAAAY smarter than me about this stuff so I'm sure it was really fine, but I didn't see/know whatever happens to super make sure capacitors are grounded out. .... or maybe it was just a "yolo, don't touch the deranged innards" and trusting yourself not to fuck up.

@virkfulsarchive

2 жыл бұрын

Not the left hand please, please have a habit of touching electronics with the right hand. (Electrocuted pathway)

@RainBoxRed

2 жыл бұрын

Especially many times he covered the fan with his hand.

@Mondfischli

2 жыл бұрын

... professional safety gear: rubber flipflops for insulation 🤣

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

This felt like watching a horror movie. Where the blonde is hearing strange sounds in the other room and tries to open the door and you are like "STOP...NOOOO".

My wife bought a gigabyte P750GM a year ago for a system she built. This weekend it blew up. We thought maybe dust bunny shorted out something so we ran some air through it visually inspected, didn't see any blown caps or magic blue smoke burn marks. I found this video today after I tried to test her PSU with a PS tester (no load just voltage check) and hitting the switch resulted in an immediate arc in the PSU. Put her SSD in an old system of mine so we know they survived, but don't know yet about her GPU, CPU, MB, or RAM. I have a known good PSU (EVGA 850) to test with. Fingers crossed it didn't nuke anything else.

It's a feature Steve and it's called First Intervention Reset Explosion. Also known as FIRE

So, because you use an electronic load, would this be considered a Tool-Assisted Speedrun(TAS)?

@higihups

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, as they need a load it is seen as necessary equipment. As you need some sort of controller/mouse/keyboard to speedrun a game.

@laserhawk64

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, sure, since Gigabyte sure seems to be acting like a whole bag of em!

@Vladimir_Kv

2 жыл бұрын

It would've been TAS if they pre-programmed the sequence of actions into their testing device and executed it with a single "start" button.

@nasanierulastname2997

2 жыл бұрын

@Edge64 Damn son

@Arashmickey

2 жыл бұрын

"Steve Burke would hang on to the record for the remainder of 2021, until a old challenger joined: enter Matt Turk." -Summoning Salt

“Can I get you to touch this capacitor?” Should be a GamerNexus shirt.

@2nd_Directorate

2 жыл бұрын

I second this.

@sultanofsick

2 жыл бұрын

I need you to discharge this. Across your body.

@duckman12569

2 жыл бұрын

When I was doing a traineeship for electrotech, my 'trainer' tried to get me to discharge a new wrapped fridge, but I could feel it jumping before touching the frame. Then he came along and got the zap. Sucker.

@ALEXANDER1318

2 жыл бұрын

Or: "It's not even over 9000!"

3:27 is really cool - you can see the frequency of the psu tester (and its display) go from 60hz, with significant banding to a smooth 50hz, also what the camera uses for anti banding

Your Technological Journalism is unparalleled. Well done

Gigabyte PSU's are like having the spirit of ElectroBOOM in your PC. Also, Linus should send Patrick some free underwear for exhaustive testing.

@bltsammich9760

2 жыл бұрын

i don't know if LTT Store has brown underwear or shorts

@m4c1990

2 жыл бұрын

Stopped watching electroboom because he had the ad ho and scam enabler on there.

@defencebangladesh4068

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@bllau

2 жыл бұрын

@@m4c1990 He had who on?

You guys should make a ‘most dangerous pc’ with a gigabyte psu, NZXT H1, and a bunch of super underwhelming components

@depth386

2 жыл бұрын

11900K on a throttling garbage Z590 board Edit: how could i forget, Dell’s 1660 Super for the GPU

@CommanderTato

2 жыл бұрын

@@depth386 11900K with stock Dell prebuilt cooler.

@EricdaRED95

2 жыл бұрын

EVGA RTX 3090 playing New World

@depth386

2 жыл бұрын

@@EricdaRED95 You sure you wouldn’t do the 3080 Tie instead? I mean sure you can knock the “value” of the flagship all you want but the MSRP of the 3080 Tie vs the 3080 was a real sour worm

@jackwhatsnew

2 жыл бұрын

They gonna get knocked on the door from FBI...

first I felt bad for Gigabyte, then I realized that I have this exact model in my build.

@faragozsuzsanna7891

2 жыл бұрын

oof

@hzelt

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@wtf-hc3tp

2 жыл бұрын

Time to get a different PSU lol.

Just the intro alone had me in stitches!!!! Nice one Steve. Oh Gigabyte is going to nail you for using a variac, they will claim it supplies an in consistant variable voltage that the PSU is not made for and that is the cause for failure they won't say anything about it galvanicly isolating the PSU making it safer..... Watch for it to hit the next press release, they will say anything they can to sidestep this clear bugger up that they made... Just an FYI, A DC electronic load can be a PC a laptop or a DC motor....... A load is a load, wether it be a PC or a damn resistor...... It's a frikken load..... Just own it Gigabyte you messed up.... OH! and testing to OPP boxing it up and giving it to a customer having it DOA.... Nice Gigabyte....

The silver lining is you could use this time to introduce GN branded safety glasses with the word Gigabyte as a discount code.

I own one of these P750GM PSU's, used it with a 3080/5900X for about a month, PC would randomly crash so I swapped it for a different 850W PSU and never even thought twice about it until I saw this video, now I'm getting emails from newegg to return for a full refund, thank you GN! ❤

@MatthewSwabey

2 жыл бұрын

You should tweet / send a copy of that email with your PSU serial etc. to GN's email - I am *sure* they will be interested

@mav5204

2 жыл бұрын

Same issue for me random crashes I sent mine back at xmas already tho glad it didnt explode all the same

Any update on the testing for the "good" serial numbers for this psu? I have one and am waiting to see what the results are for those. Love your content! Keep up the great work!

If you had just a resistive load, or just an inductive load, or just a capacitive load, each is different than the others. A DC electronic load placed on the PSU should be a combination of all of them. Old load benches (which I used to use probably before you guys were born) were strictly resistive and a LOT different than the newer and more accurate electronic loads. Certainly, if the PSU is properly designed, it should OPP trip at a certain point, and do that every time for many more times than the 2 shown in this video. (NOTE: I ran a PSU lab at NCR years ago and it was my job to perform PSU qualification testing and advise the engineers what failed and possible fixes. Since then I've had a LOT more experience with electronics and computers.) In short, this is a horrible failure and GB should have NO excuses and if I or other engineers had let something like that go at NCR, people would have been fired immediately.

I can already hear gigabyte's response: "It's not brand new in the box"

@dexteritymaster

2 жыл бұрын

Omg how could they use PSU longer than a few days they were designed to live, who cares if it kills all your components after.

@frozenturbo8623

2 жыл бұрын

And ibuypower came out of nowhere and defends gigabyte and everyone already knows ibuypower pre builts are horrible value and dangerous

@tomstonemale

2 жыл бұрын

@@EpicGamingEct your english and your sorry spam of a comment is not credible lol

@nasanierulastname2997

2 жыл бұрын

@@EpicGamingEct Clearly you didn’t see the part where the PSU literally blew up

@paulmeyer1001

2 жыл бұрын

says the company that DOESN'T SEAL THEIR BOXES

"The explosion when approaching over-power protection is to prevent the power supply from exploding from over-powering." - gigabyte, probably

@testaccount4191

2 жыл бұрын

big brain move right there

You can see the legitimate fear in the security footage when the PSU blows up. It's so damn unprofessional and childish for the company to respond like this when people could get seriously injured or even die from something like this

@9999plato

2 жыл бұрын

This sort of nonsense seems to be more commonplace in the days of "Global shortages". I bet they are using lower grade Chinese parts and passing them on to consumers.

@Kadori328

2 жыл бұрын

Or don't push a PSU wayyy past what it's rated for

@Theredstar2478

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kadori328 that’s what the opp is for tho, works on literally 90% if not more psu’s 🤣

@Kadori328

2 жыл бұрын

@@Theredstar2478 still don't put your faith in it as your guardian angel I'd you catch my drift.

@Theredstar2478

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kadori328 well yea for sure but I mean on other psu’s I’m guessing it’s been actually tested

Extremely informative. Thank you.

A lot of people claim to be a consumer advocate; and then there's Steve raising the bar. These dudes are the real deal.

Years ago, I worked in a factory that built large back up power supplies. The test phase of the bigger ones were run at 100% load for eight hours then, iirc, 125% for 4. The entire factory would be in the low 100s (degrees Fahrenheit) that morning. For some clarity, they would run these things starting on a Friday and ending Monday morning around 4am. The worst part was when one would fail a Hi-pot test. That little flare from that 750w power supply is nothing compared to liquified 1/2” bus bars and 3-6” plasma flares. The smell of the other fried components was atrocious. I guess the point of all that was the testing they did wasn’t considered complete unless the units could put up with the worst the end user could throw at them and then some. Clearly, this manufacturer has a design/component/quality control/budget issue. It would seem that their language in their reaction would indicate that they know it.

@VertexDon

2 жыл бұрын

IF they perform any QC to begin with..if

@matthausadamitz2127

2 жыл бұрын

Kind of reminds me of another "Gigabyte-explosion": I used a beQuiet! power supply on my Gigabyte G1 build couple years ago (Z97 G1 + 980ti G1). The caps on the mainboard exploded and the G1 burned to a crisp - will never forget that smell. Once the cooling was removed, I gently blew some air over the nvidia board: some burnt ICs simply dissolved into dust. They just disappeared from the board. The power supply is still kickin' though, as is the mainboard. Replaced the fried crisp 980ti with an RTX OC on second PCIe. That smell though...my my...

@MrVolksbeetle

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthausadamitz2127 Yeah, the stuff you from that can stain your sinuses for about a week. It’s awesome, especially the 3rd time.

@erwinlommer197

2 жыл бұрын

This testing to 100% load applies to a lot of things. Even some engineers don't know that critical components can be and in some cases should be tested to 100% load befpre being put to use. Not to just test as a sample. This could be mechanical parts like suspension parts of a racecar, cable ties, welds or joins between different materials for example. Some people also think testing is somehow always destructive. It isn't. Testing at 100% load is not the load at which the thing should break anyways. It is the maximum which the part should handle without issues. More to the point, everything is designed with a safety margin. Elevator cables for example have a safety factor of 11. That means it needs to be able to handle 11x the maximum design load. Most of the time the safety factor is 2 or 3 for most parts. However things should always work at 100% load and not break. Be that 100% load a weight, amperage, watts, torque, heat or speed.

@MrVolksbeetle

2 жыл бұрын

@@erwinlommer197 Yeppers.

Dude that lens change looks great!

This is called "expected misuse" in safety focused product engineering, eg. automotive engineering, but really all safety stickered goods. It is entirely expectable that a fault condition will persist (eg. when you walk away from your PC for a day). And it is entirely expectable that overload will happen - from too large of a GPU, mining, to straight up shorting the wires together. Gigabyte has been caught out and there is no exciuse. - B.E. Mechatronic Eng, MSc. Automotive Eng. So, academically speaking, STFU Gigabyte.

The "Patrick Stone: speedrunner" tag gave me a solid chuckle

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔.........xD

@Shotblur

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 Won't explode, because the OPP will trigger and safely shut off the PSU. You would know if you weren't bo lan tiao. Gigabyte sai sia.

@DTG4844

2 жыл бұрын

@@roxy_xcxc6869 you've spam commented this everywhere. You're very ignorant, they're testing the safety mechanism not the power load.

I love Gamers Nexus. Steve seems a real guy who loves the kitty cats and looks out for the consumer - short of the cape he's a hero to me.

@frank.bullitt

2 жыл бұрын

Not all Heroes wear Capes

@agenericaccount3935

2 жыл бұрын

Give it time, the hair will become the cape.

@CMDRSloma

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve.

@mab2187

2 жыл бұрын

Not to sound pessimistic but always leave room for doubt/skepticism, even if they are heroes.

@agenericaccount3935

2 жыл бұрын

@@mab2187 calm down.

This is why I support Steve. Tech companies try to bully reviewers and media outfits but Steve calls out BS and defends his reputation.

Even tho this is such an old video and I know Patrick is fine, just watching him with that PSU right next to his arm sticking over the edge of that desk continuing to touch it and shove it around, pointing it towards him in T-Shirt and shorts really had me hissing:"Stop touching it!" in concern by the end lol

Honestly, this sad for a company to do that to their customers like thinking about this from another side.. if we didn't have any tech channels reviewing products, more people would have lost their stuff and our complaints would never be heard. Thank you steve and keep your amazing work up

@tommychappell6359

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah totally

@Leignheart

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention potential house fires and deaths because of such negligence in this product.

@meownime1603

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leignheart True, My friend actually lost a motherboard and GPU cause of it, I hope people by now are aware of this psu for safty.

@akitowanijima104

2 жыл бұрын

@@meownime1603 Especially when they're so many people that underestimate the importance of buying a good PSU so you won't have to deal with that shit, i can't count the number of times i've seen recommandations on hardware where people just put everything on GPU but don't seems to give a shit about others componants and PSU is the part you don't want to cheap out.

Whilst I get what's going on here, I feel for the science fans you should have a control unit (say a Corsair PSU) to show that under the same conditions it doesn't react the same. Not because people don't believe you, but to further re-enforce the point to Gigabyte

@TheCristacker

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@lokeychomusuke

2 жыл бұрын

they did say that there is a video coming soon of a different power supply (from a different manufacturer) being tested and showing that this is not normal behavior.

@AkOsIrAnUto9980

2 жыл бұрын

I do hope they compare it to a similarly speced PSU just to make it crystal clear to Gigabyte that they’re too confident in their PSU.

@The_Simp_Son

2 жыл бұрын

Old corsair Rm units used to catch fire too. WIth corsair also doing not a lot about it

@zperdek

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_Simp_Son I, for example have 12 years old 850w Corsair running like new but I should note that if i remember correctly it was rebranded seasonic.

Lighting looks great in this video Steve.

In a nutshell when both mosfets are conducting at the same time it's a short circuit. One mosfet must turn off so the other can turn on. If both are on at the same time kaboom. A well designed power supply also reads the mosfets temps and if they get too hot the power supply shuts down anyway regardless the OPP. Close to 200ºC is too high

@angrysocialjusticewarrior

2 жыл бұрын

Seems interns have been put in charge of their factories.

@punktkomma9489

2 жыл бұрын

@@damionb7946 smells like you don't know what you are talking about

@n.shiina8798

2 жыл бұрын

there's many things that could kill mosfets and one of them is cross conduction from having not enough dead time as you said. if the problem was dead time then paralleling mosfets won't help.

@th3d3wd3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@punktkomma9489 How do you conclude that? It absolutely is possible to run mosfets in parallel. If you want them to run absolutely perfectly in parallel, you'd need to miller plateau match them all. Most applications can handle a few microseconds switch on time difference though.

@th3d3wd3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@n.shiina8798 Just better mosfet gate driver and bleed resistor, or better mosfets.... or both

Patrick putting his hand on and near the PSU each time is edge of your seat nail biting stuff

@HMan2828

2 жыл бұрын

Meh even if the case shorted to live, 120v makes you recoil, not grip on... I'd be much more scared of those PSUs that DON'T blow up, sitting there with fully charged capacitors...

@alexatkin

2 жыл бұрын

@@HMan2828 Indeed, the fun is what I did back with an AT PSU. I picked it up while it was powered up, not realising there was a cut-out underneath without a plastic shield, so I touched the PCB likely on the AC side. My left arm was numb for an hour. I was just lucky it grounded in the same arm rather than going across my chest. Still amazing that despite being a short across my hand, I felt it up my entire arm.

You know you're badass when you let the Gigabyte PSU face you on T-shirt, shorts, slippers and no eye protection while clicking the wattage up up and away. As a computer engineer, I don't have those balls of steel.

I bought one of these damn things 2 weeks ago. Glad a ran across these vids when I did. Swapped it out today 👍🏻

If "certain media outlets" doesn't become a t-shirt print GN is dead to me, 😂😂😂

@Paul_Sleeping

2 жыл бұрын

New line of under garment wears.

@faisal3398

2 жыл бұрын

It's "outfits" which makes it even better lol

@roxy_xcxc6869

2 жыл бұрын

: D this guys is nut. Running 750w psu at more than 1050w! Of cause will explode lah omg ? Which means we can set opp at 5000w & see then. See whether msi psu will explode on 5000w opp then 😁🤔🤔........xD

@michaeljaystaufferjoyce7235

2 жыл бұрын

It'll be the line for Aug- "certain Media outlets" for the Year End Biggest let downs shirt.

linus was right. steve is like a dog with a bone. he just won't give up no matter what.

@j.r.huffnstuff3549

2 жыл бұрын

And just like a dog with a bone, it fills me with utter joy. There's 2 main outcomes of something like this: the company finally admits fault and solves the issue resulting in good will and kudos. OR, the company doubles down again, dropping public opinion and potentially getting into legal issues. Either way I know of a company to reward or avoid. Gigabyte has a foot in the latter group right now.

@cybisz2883

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.r.huffnstuff3549 Back in November when I was trying to get an RTX 3080, the Gigabyte model became available briefly on Amazon and I clicked "Buy it now" as fast as I could. It went out of stock before the transaction could complete and I kicked myself for losing it. A week later I managed to score an Asus TUF 3080 instead. After seeing these reviews, I'm *so* glad I don't have any Gigabyte components in my new gaming pc.

@hoverbike

2 жыл бұрын

@@cybisz2883 unrelated, but had my gigabyte 660 die in about a month after purchase. Lasted me through metro last Light. Rma'd it, and got in store credit and bought a 770 from evga that died 8 years later.

@nickllama5296

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.r.huffnstuff3549 Amen wrt avoiding them like the plague. "Yeah our PSUs explode, but it's no big deal, trust us! We value you, the walle... customer, CUSTOMER!!!"

@JeremyCaron

2 жыл бұрын

How have companies not learned yet?

Fantastic as always.

every PSU makers: we try our best to exceed 80plus standards. Gigabyte: we have exceeded 80Plus Uranium standard.

I have a feeling the Gigabyte Christmas Card this year is gonna be one of those 'this message will self-destruct in 5 seconds' types.

@myfavoriteviewer306

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, so they'll just send more power supplies.

@aaronthomas6155

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure they really want Steve blowing up more of their PSU's on camera....

@markjacobs1086

2 жыл бұрын

Just without telling you so 🤔

Steve really does punish the companies that behave badly. It's ok to make mistakes companies just own up to it.

Thank you guys big time for doing this!!! Would a GPU vendor stilll honor their own warranty if they know someone used a Gigabyte power suppliy? And as a once electrician it looks & sounded like the PSU might be losing its neutral feed & jumping to ground, this is just my wild guess, that short didn't sound like DC, sounded more like AC shorting to the PSU case.

@handlesarefeckinstupid

Жыл бұрын

Would make sense if it was on the ac side, DC tends to just pop and not have the arcing.

Well... No, you're wrong Steve! It's just a one time overcurrent protection :p Great video^^ 20 years ago i bought a cheap power supply for my AMD 3700+ system. It went with a very loud bang after about 3 years. But luckily didn't take any component with it. The passive heatsink of the north bridge killed it later by just falling off... That system was so great... Especially the CPU going from 2.2 to 2.9 GHz stable under air and the Epox Mainboard i absolutely loved because it was one of the first with start and reset buttons onboard!