Speed Engineering true duals are OUT!!! Single 4” Hawks Sinister with my Varex valved muffler

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Speed engineering true dual xpipe had to go. Installed 4” Hawks single sinister kit and modified for my Xforce Varex electronic valved muffler.
Reason: I loved the sound of true duals and it flowed for my power level nicely but I found myself driving around a drone at 1800 rpm. This setup is quieter, even in open mode and in quiet mode you can actually have a phone conversation lol 😂
Video is removing speed engineering true duals 3” exhaust and install 4” single exhaust. I do some idle clips of the exhaust sound amd a few revs. I’ll do more driving videos later with new exhaust system.

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  • @thedudeman9629
    @thedudeman96292 жыл бұрын

    Goodness gracious man...I hope my 92 grows up to be like that. Furiously working on it, trying to get back what was lost so many years ago. Thank you for sharing it with us bro. Love it!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Stay at it man! And thanks,l for visiting the channel!

  • @josephhoran9489
    @josephhoran94892 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting updates and giving reasons as to why you choose to do certain mods. 👍

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem! Glad it helped!

  • @mikeybmx5330
    @mikeybmx53302 жыл бұрын

    Just wanted to add that this channel is the best 3rd gen camaro channel ever! My head is swimming with things I want to do to my 86 iroc.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow thanks for that! I really appreciate that! Keep us updated on your 86!

  • @TheWiscoGuyz
    @TheWiscoGuyz2 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel recently. Those varex mufflers work well for that mild to wild sound. I have a buddy with a cammed LS3 vette, he had a dual mode exhaust system and its the best of both worlds, With the LS3 it's perfect. He like how it worked on his vette so much he got a varex for his daily driver, Saturn ion redline. Worked well on that too. Sound good. Loving the video's. Keep up the good work.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! thanks for the feedback man! Yeah, I love them, I'm not sure why more people run them on their projects. Thanks for hanging out on the channel!

  • @TonyTheTechnician
    @TonyTheTechnician2 жыл бұрын

    Dang bro you did a great job. Ya I wouldn't be worried to much about it being a bad restriction you still have plenty of flow. And damn that sounds great thats some big pipe!! You get to hear the whine when it's quiet and a nice rumble when it's open. Great job.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm soooooo much happier with this setup! Yeah, I will probably leave it with the reducer for a while until that muffler valve goes out or whatever. honestly, the car feel crazy power still and I can't tell the different LOL. It may show on dyno, IDK. thanks for hanging out on the channel buddy!

  • @mikeybmx5330
    @mikeybmx53302 жыл бұрын

    I'm a plumber for a living and that looks as big as a set of sewer pipes! Love the chop with the valve open!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha yeah man, I was scared they wouldn’t fit when I first opened them up lol

  • @jays9211
    @jays92112 жыл бұрын

    That exhaust is massive. I remember installing a Gale Banks 3” cat back on my 86 IROC back in 1987 and I thought that was big !

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I honestly had no idea what a 4” exhaust pipe was until this cam in. I thought no way this is fitting lol

  • @keithdaniels1994

    @keithdaniels1994

    Жыл бұрын

    Ran a Banks on my 83 HO. Performance and sound was way better. But always thought with any more power it would need more pipe, (i.e. a SC LS3).

  • @coderedcamaro4812
    @coderedcamaro48122 жыл бұрын

    Sounds freaking awesome!!!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks bud!!! and thanks for hanging out on the channel!!

  • @erictrump6453
    @erictrump6453 Жыл бұрын

    looks fantastic love it

  • @MarkTisdelJr
    @MarkTisdelJr2 жыл бұрын

    Dude! I love it!!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @916chevyboy
    @916chevyboy9 ай бұрын

    Makes me an IROC FAN!🎉

  • @kurrentevent
    @kurrentevent Жыл бұрын

    That sounds nasty 🔥

  • @brewmaster0507
    @brewmaster0507 Жыл бұрын

    Nice. I have an 89 i put a 420 horse 355 in. Tremac tko 5 speed. My cam would sound amazing with this.

  • @vandettabuilds6641
    @vandettabuilds66412 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god it sounds good!!!!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    thanks! I really appreciate that and thanks for watching!!! I'm super happy with it for sure!

  • @Alss383
    @Alss383 Жыл бұрын

    Now I understand why you went with the smaller muffler. It will definitely be perfect once you get the larger muffler.

  • @datboired832
    @datboired8322 жыл бұрын

    All you need is some W-40 and windex lol. Good shit my man!

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    hahaha, that is all ya need ;) thanks!!!

  • @malcolmmok08
    @malcolmmok082 жыл бұрын

    This is your best video by far

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh cool!!! thanks very much! It is nice to have Steve do the filming, gives better shots for sure. I am definitely trying to improve them with each one so I really appreciate that!

  • @malcolmmok08

    @malcolmmok08

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMullet i think i'll copy you for my exhaust. When i was looking at that kit from hawks i saw that there is a choice between 82-97 or 98-02 "ls1". what did you choose there?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@malcolmmok08 it was the “82-02 Camaro/Firebird "Sinister" Exhaust System 4", HAWKS”

  • @malcolmmok08

    @malcolmmok08

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMullet I hear ya but when you have to choose an option from the menu is it the "LM8297" or "LM9802" model?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@malcolmmok08 oh, yeah I see that, 82-97 version

  • @KnightLifeKITT
    @KnightLifeKITT2 ай бұрын

    Thanks for another super helpful video Your speed engineering headers, how much to they sit below the frame rails if you dont mind me asking, done my best to eye it and looks like half the OD so maybe 1.25" to 1.5" can you confirm? Thanks

  • @Alss383
    @Alss383 Жыл бұрын

    Looks and sounds great. Do you think power is the same with this exhaust?

  • @cmro386
    @cmro3868 ай бұрын

    Nice! I have the same 4" system too. What crossmember is that?

  • @aguitarhero007
    @aguitarhero007 Жыл бұрын

    If they drone couldn’t you just weld different mufflers on?

  • @jesseh9174
    @jesseh9174 Жыл бұрын

    Great work once again 👏 Question, I'm considering the speed engineering on my 3rdgen, did you have more drone with magnaflows or with the speed engineering mufflers?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    The Speed Engineering duals had crazy drone no matter what mufflers I put on. I got where I was driving to avoid 1800 rpm

  • @kurrentevent

    @kurrentevent

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMulletdo you think it was the dual in general or speed engineering duals?

  • @danieldelpha1315
    @danieldelpha13152 жыл бұрын

    The car is awsome

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @troythreatlevel1
    @troythreatlevel12 ай бұрын

    Lose any power, gain power with this new system vs the true duals?

  • @arnaldomata5742
    @arnaldomata57422 жыл бұрын

    I kinda wanna do the xforce bullet mufflers with my true duals

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that would be killer I think

  • @timthomas2976
    @timthomas29762 жыл бұрын

    What brand are the replacement clamps you used for your SE duals?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which ones? The clamps that came with the kit.

  • @chevyboy119
    @chevyboy1192 жыл бұрын

    Do you still have the speed engineering exhaust and will to sell. Just did my swap just trying to have exhaust on before engine start up after fresh rebuilt

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    No, I sold it the next week I took this off lol

  • @brockkellenberger
    @brockkellenberger2 жыл бұрын

    Nice! When are u looking to get ur S60 in?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not sure yet, Strange is still building it I believe. I'm sure with Holidays it may be a couple weeks.

  • @dqpbwk
    @dqpbwk2 жыл бұрын

    I had that same exhaust on my turd, it was noisy because I didnt have adequate clearance between axle and body, has 2" drop springs in rear. Are you at factory height? Hows your clearance with that 4" sewer pipe lol

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s lowered, yeah the duals were too tight there for me also not this pipe fits awesome… definitely need the offset upper track bar though. Thanks for watching

  • @bhcamaro2002
    @bhcamaro20022 жыл бұрын

    Could've swapped the SE mufflers for Borla XR1s that would've eliminated drone as well

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I almost did that, but I was concerned the drone would be still be there. I also had a little clearance issues lowered.

  • @backdoormailman

    @backdoormailman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which mufflers exactly? Looking to swap mine out

  • @christophersmith6420
    @christophersmith64202 жыл бұрын

    I too have the speed engineering duals and the drone is murder. Do you think you lost any power with the 4" mufflex?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not sure, maybe a little but I can’t tell driving it

  • @davehaynes0

    @davehaynes0

    9 ай бұрын

    I doubt it. I made 500whp with nitrous through the Hawks 4 inch kit.

  • @trevonwilson1
    @trevonwilson1 Жыл бұрын

    Why did you get rid of the speed engineering exhaust? 🤔

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    Drone was painful after driving a few minutes

  • @sleepytimemusic7539
    @sleepytimemusic7539 Жыл бұрын

    so did the whole build cost 400$?

  • @danieldelgado3008
    @danieldelgado30082 жыл бұрын

    Great video thanks for the thirdgen content

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are welcome! Thanks for hanging out on the channel 🙏

  • @guntherferguson2369
    @guntherferguson23692 жыл бұрын

    I have the 3" true dual on my 2000 Camaro and I agree with you. It's awful lol. Way too loud and scrapes on everything. I personally would never put 3" dual on an LS1 Camaro. It's way too big for the engine. 2-1/2" would be ideal but the previous owner put it on there. It probably out performs the stock setup but leaves power and torque on the table vs a 2-1/2" dual system. I really hope to change it in the future but the only 2-1/2" true dual I can find is made by Hooker and waaaay over priced. It's crazy how many companies make a stainless 3" true dual exhaust for $400-$600 dollars then Hooker makes a 2-1/2" system that inevitably costs them less to make but they charge almost $1,100 for it. Shame on you Hooker.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it sounds killer the first 5 minutes but that’s it lol 😂 the Holley is what I’d go with doing over honestly. It fits great

  • @carado1984

    @carado1984

    Жыл бұрын

    I get crazy drone in 6th at around 72 mph which I think is around 1700 rpms but what I hate the most is the ground clearance and I cannot for the life of me get it to stop banging. I've adjusted it about 15 times and it always settles back into an annoying tick. I could tack weld it but I'm afraid I'll do that and end up with the same result. It's got to go this winter. Back to a single 3'.

  • @chevy19699
    @chevy196994 ай бұрын

    Does the varex kill power when its not opened up?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    4 ай бұрын

    Maybe a little, next time I get it on the dyno we will check, that would be interesting for sure!

  • @chevy19699

    @chevy19699

    3 ай бұрын

    @FireballMullet ok great I will keep an eye out for that video. I have the true dual but it's to loud lol but I want something that kills sound but no power. From research going from true dual to a good single exhaust picks up power anyway.

  • @chrisbarrientes9508
    @chrisbarrientes95082 жыл бұрын

    Can I have the old true dual exhaust

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I sold them already. Thanks for watching!

  • @chrisbarrientes9508

    @chrisbarrientes9508

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love the car, I have 4 f bodies and 2 2nd gen firebirds, I'll probably do my Camaro similar to yours , I like the gold I roc wheels their sick

  • @vandettabuilds6641
    @vandettabuilds66412 жыл бұрын

    Where did you get your varex muffler

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Summit racing

  • @vandettabuilds6641

    @vandettabuilds6641

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMullet okay thank you

  • @ariyanadumon4549
    @ariyanadumon45492 жыл бұрын

    The duals were too loud then?

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, for me they were. but the drone was the worst part IMO. I found myself shifting gears around it - 1,800 RPM

  • @ariyanadumon4549

    @ariyanadumon4549

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMullet oh good Goddess

  • @paulthesoundguy1
    @paulthesoundguy12 жыл бұрын

    I am sure you could sell off all the 4” exhaust parts to the younger generation…the 4” was way way too big for the engine anyway….most street engines need some back pressure to perform correctly. I have the Magna flow 3” stainless steel set up with dual cat’s from stock manifolds to exhaust tip….is loud enough

  • @geovannimonge8397
    @geovannimonge8397 Жыл бұрын

    That's a 4". I feel at this point this is ment for a truck. Just my opinion. But it's your project. Do as you please

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    Well I get your point if it is sticking out the back like some diesel lol…but this is tucked and hidden. It is really popular in the Fbody world to do this set up. thanks for watching

  • @davebarron5939
    @davebarron59392 жыл бұрын

    So nice to see your big fan running. Up here in the God-forsaken frozen wasteland of MI. we have teens at night and 20's during the day. So much for the "PC" "Global warming".

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    I try not to mention the weather to my northern friends lol. Man! That is chilly 🥶

  • @JJsGA

    @JJsGA

    Жыл бұрын

    I tend to refer to MI as "the frozen wasteland of Hoth" (StarWars Reference)

  • @davebarron5939

    @davebarron5939

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JJsGA Yes! spot on, with the exception of the Galactic Empires Walkers, course, I guess we have "state" troopers instead of Storm Troopers, but, same thing.

  • @JJsGA

    @JJsGA

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davebarron5939 🤣 imagine state police with ATST's lol

  • @davebarron5939

    @davebarron5939

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JJsGA Would really suck in winter time, Damn cold around here. LOL

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster Жыл бұрын

    Choking down to a single 3" is horrible for flow and backpressure. Single 3" is only good for ~370hp. Dual 2" is the same as single 3", with dual 2.5 the same as single 3.5 and dual 3 the same as single 4.25. The former is good for around 500HP, and the latter is good for ~700. There's an exhaust size calculator out there on a site called "mk5cortinaestate" but apparently, youtube doesn't want me to link that site since they shadow-deleted my last comment. Either way, I love the sound of an equal length, properly matched 2-1 performance Y-pipe like this setup otherwise WOULD be with the right size muffler, plus you get the simplicity of ordering fewer parts and having less weight and less crap to fiddle with. (it's also part of the reason I prefer single turbos, single subwoofers in my audio systems, and a midbass+wideband for my front stage in my audio setups. Also part of why I prefer coupes over sedans, lol)

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    This did 720 to the wheel, but I probably lost a few but I can’t tell at all driving it lol 😂

  • @Drunken_Hamster

    @Drunken_Hamster

    Жыл бұрын

    Crap, forgot to mention the Helmholtz resonator. You can install a specifically tuned length of capped off pipe shortly after each header that will eliminate all drone. You do it by finding what frequency resonates the loudest at whatever your "troublesome" RPM range is, then you use a calculator to find the 1/4 wave resonance and basically weld on a pipe that's that long with a capped end. Doesn't matter what shape the pipe is, as long as it's not too small in diameter and doesn't have any weird constrictions in it.

  • @Drunken_Hamster

    @Drunken_Hamster

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FireballMullet Bitchin! Be sure to check my other reply comment since I forgot something when YT deleted my original post.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Drunken_Hamster yeah I’ve seen those J pipes done on 5th gens… pretty cool way to cancel it out. I’ll eventually get me a 4” Varex version of me muffler, it was almost 500 so I’ll let this one die first lol 😂

  • @danielepa2237
    @danielepa22372 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people get a V8 LS3 and want to make it quiet your choking it, your stopping horsepower but I get it your older so you want it to sound like a 4 cylinder.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s the great thing about this Varex muffler, open the valve and listen to the Eagles 😂 thanks for watching

  • @TransAmDrifter
    @TransAmDrifter4 ай бұрын

    Drone can be easily eliminated by mid muffler (so called resonator) or specific blind pipe.

  • @FireballMullet

    @FireballMullet

    4 ай бұрын

    That would help some for sure

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