Speed Boosters Compared // Metabones BMPCC4K vs Viltrox EF-M2 II

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Comparing the new Metabones Speed Booster for the Pocket 4K to the original Micro Four Thirds model & the Viltrox EF-M2 II for image quality and autofocus.
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0:00 - Intro
0:41 - What's Different on the BMPCC4K Speed Booster?
0:47 - Sensor Stack Thickness Explained
2:36 - Longer Lenses Are Not Really Affected
3:13 - Demonstration of the Sigma 18-35mm Being Parfocal
4:37 - Build Quality Notes / Viltrox vs Metabones
5:56 - The Viltrox Displays a Larger Maximum Aperture
7:44 - Outdoor Test: Tree Branch Against Bright Sky
8:21 - Continuous Autofocus Tests & Firmware Notes
9:48 - Viltrox EF-M2 II Autofocus Test
10:06 - Metabones EF-MFT Ultra Autofocus Test
10:22 - Autofocus Noise Sample
11:06 - How to Adjust the Focus on Speed Boosters
14:46 - Sharpness Comparison
15:36 - Field of View Differences
16:38 - Face Detection Autofocus Test
17:46 - Value Conclusions: Which Focal Reducer Should You Buy?
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  • @D4Darious
    @D4Darious4 жыл бұрын

    🔥

  • @BadKarma714

    @BadKarma714

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love your videos bro I got a lumix G7 cuz you have one same with my 60D can you make a video on what settings you use on the Lumix G7

  • @Albanez39

    @Albanez39

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BadKarma714 Check out DSLR Video Shooter. Caleb makes great guides on individual cameras, and they are pretty cheap as well. Worth the price if you ask me, you'll learn everything that there is to know about the G7.

  • @eirjordan337
    @eirjordan3374 жыл бұрын

    It’s insane I’ve waited for this review for almost 2 years wow. Thank you!

  • @johnhaynes9910
    @johnhaynes99104 жыл бұрын

    Good to see you venturing outside, hope it wasn't too scary :) As to the content, very good and highly informative so thanks for that.

  • @stefantschmitt
    @stefantschmitt4 жыл бұрын

    Finally an in depth, objective as much as possible and honest review of the speedboosters. Subscribing to this channel.

  • @joshwise1369
    @joshwise13694 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison Gerald, also helping me and my brother as newbies with a ton of your other videos so thank you! Picked up the Viltrox with your link just now 👌

  • @geraldundone
    @geraldundone4 жыл бұрын

    Remember kids, it sounds better if you talk INTO the microphone. 🤣🤷‍♂️ The automated noise reduction in Resolve seemed to hate it when I was off-axis--it made for a very muffled sound. But it only showed up on export and only for the first couple seconds of the clip. It sounded normal during playback. I wish there was a way to "apply" the effect like you can in Audition and most DAWs. Also, thumbs up if you stayed to hear the surprise at 19:47. 🤣👍

  • @bobcoco6047

    @bobcoco6047

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lool again you basically nailed the Beta testing of DR by accident! xD 18 videos later, maybe their soft will end up being perfect, once you'll have missed the color grading after hitting the ND filter with your arm, & once you'll have sneezed while holding the tripod, & we'll discover some new quirks of DR Digital IS ... :D can't wait ^^ → DR brand new *Sneeze Shot Stabilization*

  • @ShimonGaliley

    @ShimonGaliley

    4 жыл бұрын

    You stay classy, Gerald Undone

  • @aebonstudio7193
    @aebonstudio71934 жыл бұрын

    Moving outside to get more samples and examples! Amazing work, appreciate your efforts!

  • @BeatsWithKev
    @BeatsWithKev4 жыл бұрын

    I don't even own a BMPCC4k and I still watched. When I see purple and Gerald, I click.

  • @theantoniosilva
    @theantoniosilva4 жыл бұрын

    Every time I need technical question answered about cameras/video I look to see if you have done a video on it 👌🏽 just what I needed thank you!

  • @finnillson4808
    @finnillson48084 жыл бұрын

    Gerald I’ve been here since your 6K subscriber days. So happy for your success. Your videos are an immense treasure trove of information for the community.

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Jesse! That means a lot. Appreciate your continued support and viewership. Cheers! 😃🙏💜

  • @finnillson4808

    @finnillson4808

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kezzatube45 Cheers

  • @StevenattheMoment
    @StevenattheMoment4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this comparison! You're the best!

  • @alexgpanda2012
    @alexgpanda20124 жыл бұрын

    Seems like the viltrox+cropping and a little post sharpening would save some money and still be a good combo! Great video Gerald👌🏽👌🏽

  • @Deathbynature89
    @Deathbynature894 жыл бұрын

    When I saw that Thumbnail face in my sub feed I felt blessed. 💙 Gorgeous.

  • @danzbeard
    @danzbeard4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this very detailed insight 👍

  • @ConstructionKronies
    @ConstructionKronies4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! Your BlackMagic videos have really helped me out. This is a huge purchase for me but I have been taking your advice. The camera should be in next month, can't wait to show you all what I am building~!

  • @dronazfilm5214
    @dronazfilm52144 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the tip with the powerfocal :) it is much better now👍 amazing 😊

  • @50450720
    @504507204 жыл бұрын

    Nice work GU, just what I was looking for. Big thumbs up 👍

  • @MLee-vcrr
    @MLee-vcrr4 жыл бұрын

    Once again...another fantastic video from you! I have 3 of the Viltrox models, (1) ver.-1 and (2) ver.-2's. Using them on 2 BMPK4K's and a GH5S. You're right about getting parfocal for the entire range. I always thought it was the lenses and not the back focus adjustments. After testing, one ver. 2 was dead on from the start but I had to adjust the others. Now the Sigma 18-35, 50-100 and Canon 70-200 2.8 mk2 all stay in focus through the entire range. Keep up the good, thorough, exhaustive, comprehensive...etc work! LOL. BTW, Ver.-1 is not nearly as bad as people claim.

  • @aristomenis_k
    @aristomenis_k4 жыл бұрын

    Very informative video, thank for the comparison and the tip on how to make zoom lenses parfocal!

  • @conordia6906
    @conordia69064 жыл бұрын

    Dude, thanks, really interesting. I am a newb. I just got the 2013 bmpcc 4k. I am strongly considering going with the viltrox after watching this. Thanks again, great presentation! Good luck

  • @ju2705s
    @ju2705s4 жыл бұрын

    Impressive accurate and useful. Thx a lot👍

  • @StixxVision
    @StixxVision4 жыл бұрын

    Great review! Everything I needed to know.

  • @visceraljourney
    @visceraljourney4 жыл бұрын

    That parafocal hack man... is AWESOME!! I now have a parafocal 18-35 Hurray!!!

  • @perplexer731
    @perplexer7314 жыл бұрын

    Hello Gerald That's insane. My Setup: Bmpcc4k, Metabones and Sigma 18-35 I use my bmpcc4 the Edelkrone Headplus and the Focus Module. Depending on the focal length, the focus was not right. I would never have come up with the idea to adjust this on my Metabone. Now it works perfectly. Thank you!

  • @JamieLoreteFilms
    @JamieLoreteFilms4 жыл бұрын

    I’m using the viltrox .71x adapter on my BMPCC4k and I never had an issue with it being really tight on the lens and it being a little loose on the BMPCC4k. Mine fit perfectly!

  • @rMr.big13
    @rMr.big134 жыл бұрын

    great content as usual!! keep up the good work!

  • @rMr.big13

    @rMr.big13

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is the opinion on the szcam?

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming4 жыл бұрын

    Love my G85 and sigma 18-35 combo with viltrox EF-M2. So much value

  • @JennyDarukat
    @JennyDarukat4 жыл бұрын

    woah that ending caught me off guard man, almost got a heart attack also really considering to get one of those Viltrox speedboosters now, primarily for adapting vintage glass to EF, then to MFT like my Meyer-optik Primotar or Zeiss QBM Planar

  • @JasonToddRoberts
    @JasonToddRoberts4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Answered all of the things I have been pondering.

  • @jorgem50
    @jorgem503 жыл бұрын

    own the viltrox ef-2 for a couple of years...love them.

  • @KennyRonkainen
    @KennyRonkainen4 жыл бұрын

    Great research there!

  • @OldshoeFilmsProductions
    @OldshoeFilmsProductions4 жыл бұрын

    Super informative, cheers bruv.

  • @Cartycinema
    @Cartycinema4 жыл бұрын

    I use the Viltrox EF-M2 II on my Pocket 4K and have had nothing but pleasant experiences with it. When I'm wide open with my Rokinons, it does look very soft, but if stopped down to 2, the sharpness comes right back. I'm glad I didn't spend all that extra money on the Metabones, personally. Thank you for comparing these, as it proves you can finally buy an affordable AND high quality focal reducer.

  • @dallasbagley

    @dallasbagley

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah man, same. Although the contact on the Viltrox went out after 6 months. Optical quality is legit tho.

  • @chiokehart-kelly3481

    @chiokehart-kelly3481

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've heard you are not able to use manual focus lenses on the viltrox, is that accurate for the ef-m2?

  • @Cartycinema

    @Cartycinema

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chiokehart-kelly3481 Not true. I'm using the Rokinon Cine DS lens set with my Viltrox. Works just fine.

  • @voltvisuals

    @voltvisuals

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is that lens normally soft or does it only get soft on the speedbooster? If so then what's the point of getting the extra stop of light if you can't even use it?

  • @dr.digineralus1624

    @dr.digineralus1624

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is anybody faced blurred image problem when using Viltrox and Rokinon? I changed 2 wide angle lenses because of this problem and still didn’t get rid off!

  • @troyphillips1077
    @troyphillips10774 жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal video very detailed work . Thanks

  • @redrazor9996
    @redrazor99964 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant information. Thank you. Technically the best YT photography reviewer out there by far. I own the Canon M50. Love its compactness etc and was considering a speed booster for adapting ef L lenses in the future for that almost full frame look and the better low light performance of the aperture change. All the best 👍📷

  • @bencorwin
    @bencorwin4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information! Thanks!

  • @paulomateus3083
    @paulomateus30834 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great one! Just one question the sharpness test was done with the Sigma 18-35 wide open at 1.2?

  • @devon.dulaney
    @devon.dulaney2 жыл бұрын

    I learned a lot through this video, thank you

  • @BryanSchultzitis
    @BryanSchultzitis4 жыл бұрын

    That intro was fantastic.

  • @thatjakegriffin
    @thatjakegriffin4 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a MFT Camera. I don't use any adapters of any kind. I still watched the whole video. You're just incredibly thorough and I love the content. ✌️

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! 😃🙏

  • @metreweli
    @metreweli4 жыл бұрын

    Good job Gerald, thanks

  • @marcofazio1318
    @marcofazio13184 жыл бұрын

    The main difference between Viltrox and Metabones is the flare and keeping contrast at full aperture even if the light source is not in the frame, direct to the camera. The difference in performances there (flare side) is huge. It's something you should include into the comparison because lots of people would regret buying the Viltrox when they discover that.

  • @EasyyokeFilms

    @EasyyokeFilms

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even the Mark II viltrox? Does this happen on the Mark II viltrox too?

  • @NolanGunn

    @NolanGunn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this. I have had the same experience. When backlighting a subject (for instance at sunset) washes out the image and essentially flares the entire image loosing some sharpness but mostly destroys the contrast. Tested without the Viltrox efm2 mkii with my Sigma 18-35 and the flare went away. It's almost now worth it to me to shoot with a straight adapter now or upgrade to metabones.

  • @mogyesz225

    @mogyesz225

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@NolanGunn What if you put black tape around the connection so the light doesn't leak in? I know it's not a professional solution, but considering Viltrox's price this shouldn't be a reason to pay 4 times more for the Metabones.

  • @TheSookean
    @TheSookean4 жыл бұрын

    “I’m Gerald Undone and I only wanted to see you laughing in the purple rain”

  • @arw1292
    @arw12924 жыл бұрын

    Quick question! The play you get with the viltrox, will that be an issue during manual focus? Will you see a bit of jostle when you’re turning the focus ring? Great video, and very honest.

  • @zombiepictures
    @zombiepictures4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video!

  • @RealTechnoPanda
    @RealTechnoPanda4 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what he is talking, but I like it!

  • @nybcp
    @nybcp4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Gerald 🙏🏾

  • @exl022
    @exl0222 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this super informative video. At the start, you mentioned that you are using the the bmpcc4k and a metabones .712 speedbooster to shoot the video. Can you tell us what lens you are using, and the distance (approx) you are from the camera at the start?

  • @RumpleMatt
    @RumpleMatt4 жыл бұрын

    It’s probably a good idea to mention that by changing a focal reducers back focus adjustment to try and make a zoom more par focal means you’re likely tailoring it to a lens specifically and might screw up the back focus for other lenses... Example is if you mix primes and zooms or have multiple zooms.

  • @eigojiyouzu
    @eigojiyouzu4 жыл бұрын

    best thumbnail yet

  • @RyanDeLaTorre
    @RyanDeLaTorre4 жыл бұрын

    @Gerald Undone I would love to see an episode talking about and comparing Canon EF-S glass on the 0.71x speedboosters. I know everyone uses the Sigma 18-35mm, but for example, I've heard good things about the Canon 17-55mm which would get you to f/2 with lens stabilization. But my understanding is also that you also have to remove some stuff off of the back of the lens to make EF-S lenses work... Anyway, it seems like there's maybe enough there to do a short episode about!

  • @ReginaldEsque
    @ReginaldEsque4 жыл бұрын

    I'm so ready for the Magic Lantern Raw vs. Blackmagic Raw video... Lets get UNDONE!!!!

  • @tomdchi12

    @tomdchi12

    4 жыл бұрын

    like it's 1999

  • @ReginaldEsque

    @ReginaldEsque

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Donalek like it’s 2009

  • @deanpettitt121
    @deanpettitt1214 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Wizard Gerald's next video was 'how I made my last video on my own and made it look like someone was holding the camera' 😂

  • @PhillipRPeck
    @PhillipRPeck4 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised how well the autofocus worked on both adapters, I've barely even tried to video autofocus with either of my Metabones adapters (EF to E and EF to M43). One thing I would say is that the Metabones was able to track your face pretty well, but the background was pulsing the entire time. I wouldn't consider this usable for anything other than a Vlog-style video. Great video and I love your new transitions and the hand held camera work

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Philip! And yeah, I agree. I think it was able to keep better focus because of the constant pulsing. But I agree on the usage.

  • @stonewhite7064

    @stonewhite7064

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@geraldundone BMPCC seems do not have continue AF, what camera are you using for this test?

  • @ingolfurarnar697
    @ingolfurarnar6974 жыл бұрын

    How the hell do you know ALL THIS SHIT? Well thanx bro for explaining all this to a dummy like me and making me understand the physics behind it all :)

  • @jaydivina533
    @jaydivina5334 жыл бұрын

    :) I love Viltrox speedboosters. Good to see they're getting better and closing that Metabones gap. I just hope they don't price creep. Appreciate the tests. Thanks Gerald.

  • @ereceeme
    @ereceeme4 жыл бұрын

    Where can I ask you about the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8 for the p4k? Great video as always

  • @funny2thag
    @funny2thag4 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Gerald, do you notice if the Viltrox is prone to flaring over the Metabones?

  • @jasonhensley1048
    @jasonhensley10484 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned that there is slight give between the Viltrox and the BM mount. Do you think adding a paperthin mount shim to make it snug would help fix that 5% difference in image?

  • @jazzeejax5816
    @jazzeejax58162 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful - thanks

  • @RBFilmsja
    @RBFilmsja3 жыл бұрын

    I find myself always wanting to rent instead of buying cameras these days, albeit I will be buying a small camera to replace my old unit that I keep around.

  • @RodericAlonzo
    @RodericAlonzo4 жыл бұрын

    It would be very cool if you could compare the viltrox EF II with the viltrox nikon mount version. I know that not many people care about Nikon lenses this days but... I do :) . Great video man as always! Have a great one!

  • @sundown23
    @sundown234 жыл бұрын

    Gotta say I love the funny face thumbnail lol

  • @jonathanparlane1
    @jonathanparlane12 жыл бұрын

    Excellent stuff. A little manual focusing can make up for the slight autofocus difference. Viltrox not looking too shabby.

  • @billyoung9538
    @billyoung95384 жыл бұрын

    One of the big things I feel was missing from this video is the optical characteristics of the three adapters. In my experience the EF-M2 was more prone to flaring and contrast reduction. So flagging the lens, if possible, was more important.

  • @crozzlydog3
    @crozzlydog32 жыл бұрын

    you solved my problem as deciding between the Viltrox Mark ll vs the high price Metabones. You let me know the Viltrox was very capable of giving me what I wanted as far as sharpeness ,quality

  • @bliiblaablue
    @bliiblaablue4 жыл бұрын

    I've been using Viltrox EF-M2 mark 1 with Sigma 18-35 and 50 for a year now and do not understand the hate! The softness is kind of like a built-in "pro mist filter", haha.. Viltrox is a great product for a dirt cheap price. Sadly after purchasing Meike Cine lenses 16 and 25, the Sigmas seem so ancient... there is no competition when it comes to handling the lens, Meike wins hands down. Also love how compact the Meike is compared to 18-35 with a speedbooster. Oh, yeah, if you want a good adapter without speedboosting or image quality loss, go with the Viltrox EF-M1 (adapted), works great!

  • @tb1235

    @tb1235

    10 ай бұрын

    It's ironic how the only people that really care about ultra sharpness and clarity are reviewers. 99% of real world photographers and videographers use mist filters/diffusers, ND filters, post production softening techniques to emulate older technology that all affect the image to a great degree because that's what people actually gravitate towards and what is more appealing to the eye. One look at any social media site and the look that people want isn't necessarily the sharpest possible image. Unless it's sports or animal documentaries, sharpness is absolutely important but shouldn't be the top priority for most people looking for new gear; when, much like in this case it's literally splitting hairs.

  • @knocknapeasta
    @knocknapeasta4 жыл бұрын

    12:11 Blackmagic Marker really threw me for a moment haha

  • @analogdesigner
    @analogdesigner4 жыл бұрын

    "Telecentric" I'm impressed!

  • @linndzproductions
    @linndzproductions2 жыл бұрын

    Great video - does the focus stay the same if you moving say on a gimbal ? right now you have it on sticks so it will focus through the focal length you choose because the distance isn't moving...!

  • @NolanGunn
    @NolanGunn4 жыл бұрын

    One huge thing that I've run into is the flare when indoors backlit daylight through a window. I would say it is still somewhat sharp on my 18-35, but the biggest issue is loss of contrast and accurate color. It washes out the image considerably. Also at sunset when I'm filming couples portraits I get the same effect if the sun is in the frame. If you don't have a direct backlit light source the viltrox Ef-m2ii performs very well, but the second you backlight you lose enough quality where I would consider upgrading to metabones. Great comparison Gerald! I've always loved your videos! Edit - I've tested this with and without the Viltrox and the difference is very noticeable!

  • @mogyesz225

    @mogyesz225

    4 жыл бұрын

    What if you put black tape around the connection so the light doesn't leak in? I know it's not a professional solution, but considering Viltrox's price this shouldn't be a reason to pay 4 times more for the Metabones

  • @NolanGunn

    @NolanGunn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mogyesz225 I'll try it! Have you heard of that being the issue?

  • @dwpix
    @dwpix4 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned that the difference between the boosters might show up more when the lens is a wider focal length and opened at a larger aperture, but when you compared the boosters you did not mention either the focal length or the aperture. I wonder if the lens was set at the most “demanding” setting of wide open aperture and widest focal length?

  • @aotearoa_live
    @aotearoa_live3 жыл бұрын

    I did not notice the tightness on the viltrox speed booster mk2 when mounting on Samyang lenses. Perhaps it might be a brand issue, or since I recently bought the Viltrox, perhaps they have made a micro change for better fit.

  • @coffeebeardtv
    @coffeebeardtv3 жыл бұрын

    The quality of your videos is insane its like zack snyder youtuber.

  • @ReggieABrown
    @ReggieABrown4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Gerald, you spoke a lot about parfocal, but you never mentioned anything about infinity focus. I found myself having to constantly adjust the glass on my viltrox (and heard of ppl having to do the same with the original metabones) to get sharp focus from minimum to infinity when swapping lenses. Once you adjust the glass on the metabones designed specifically for the p4k, do you have to constantly adjust the glass to achieve sharp minimum/infinity focus when swapping lenses? Or once you set the glass you're focus is good for any lens you put on it?

  • @M_freedomOfSpeech
    @M_freedomOfSpeech4 жыл бұрын

    Hi Gerald, are there any camera adapters that have image stabilization on them? I've looked for adapter companies and haven't found anyone creating them with IS. In a speed buster will be awesome I think! Thank you gerald!

  • @TheSmeagol630
    @TheSmeagol6304 жыл бұрын

    I'm imagining the stack of Gerald's helper elves standing on each others' shoulders to match his height.

  • @Lisardust
    @Lisardust4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this! Have you tried the viltrox EF-E II 0.71x for sony?

  • @dustingillum8458
    @dustingillum84584 жыл бұрын

    Tip: When back focusing a lens. Find the minimum focal distance and adjust to that. You won't have to "trial and error" to find perfect parafocal.

  • @pauloancarvalho

    @pauloancarvalho

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dustin Gillum can you elaborate please? Thank You.

  • @glennparker8247

    @glennparker8247

    3 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean?

  • @alexshdvideo

    @alexshdvideo

    2 жыл бұрын

    For those wondering…. Focus like once. I find on a far away object like a chain link fence though a focus card like his works better…. Then zoom out wide.. no tin focus? Rarely is.. and start adjusting rear rear optic…. (Back focus) is the term. Then zoom back in…. Looks good? Zoom back out…. Final adjustment.. then for laughs check mid distance. When I used broadcast cameras I would do it every week…. Temperature changes metal swelling in multiple pieces of different types and sizes of metal. That’s why broadcast has a thumb screw and a full sized ring (think of a 2nd aperture ring at the back of a broadcast lens). Backfocus becomes easy and quick.

  • @Albanez39
    @Albanez394 жыл бұрын

    The Viltrox EF-M2 is actually an x0.68 reducer. They market it as x0.71 since it's a more popular reduction ratio.

  • @aeroxtreme15

    @aeroxtreme15

    4 жыл бұрын

    Really? I thought that viltrox is only 0.71x Thanks for the info!

  • @Albanez39

    @Albanez39

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aeroxtreme15 There are a couple of videos comparing different speedboosters. You can see that the Viltrox is wider than Metabones, Pixco, Zhingyi Turbo (or whatever it's called) etc. In one of the videos, the reviewer says explicitly that the Viltrox is 0.68x...so I assume he has measured it somehow. I'm fairly confident prime lenses were used in the videos, so there's no chance it was a mistake

  • @aeroxtreme15

    @aeroxtreme15

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Albanez39 I see, thanks for info. I'm planning to but this speed booster when I get the Panasonic G9 in January. I'm still confused on finding the the right equation for using crop sensor lenses for mft. I know when using ff lenses you times it to 1.9 or 2 then times it again with the focal reducer. How about using crop lenses.

  • @Albanez39

    @Albanez39

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@aeroxtreme15 Okay, so...Lenses are always advertised in 35mm/FF focal length standard. That's why the classic zoom lens for FF is 24-70mm, while the Micro4/3 lens is 12-35mm. You always have to calculate the actual focal length yourself. If you used the 12-35mm lens on a FF camera, that would be the actual focal length, but on the Panasonic G9, the actual FL of that lens will be 24-70mm. So, if you compared a photo taken with a Canon FF camera on a 24mm focal length, with a photo taken with the G9 on a 12mm focal length, it would be the same... For every lens you'll have, be it a native Panasonic lens, or a Canon EF lens, or a vintage Russian lens, you'll have to multiply it's Focal Length by 2 to know the actual FL you're shooting on. This is for Panasonic Micro4/3 cameras; If you're using a Sony a6500 or a Canon 7D, you'll be dealing with an APS sensor, which is between 1.4 to 1.6 times (depending on brand) smaller than FF. Crop sensor lenses are built the same way as FF lenses, they just have lower diameter glass since they have a smaller sensor to cover. That's one reason why you can't adapt crop lenses on an FF camera, but you can adapt FF lenses on a crop camera. The other reason is Focal Flange Distance (FFD), which is often shorter on crop sensors and mirrorless cameras. This is the distance between the sensor/film and the rear element of the lens. Since Canon EF has a longer FFD than Micro4/3, you can adapt EF lenses on a Panasonic G9...but you can't do the opposite. FFD has nothing to do with sensor and lens dimension, it's just that newer mirrorless cameras have chosen to use a shorter FFD to allow you to use older lenses. e.g. You can't adapt Canon, M42, M39, OM lenses on a Nikon F camera, because Nikon F has one of the largest FFDs. But you can adapt all of the lenses I mentioned on a Panasonic G9. If you mount a smaller FFD lens on a bigger FFD camera, the rear element might end up touching the sensor and damaging it. This is something to be careful about! As long as the lens you want to adapt has a Larger/Longer FDD and was made for a Bigger sensor than your Panasonic G9, you can adapt it! Just make sure to find the right adapter, and that its quality is good enough. Most adapters will account for FFD and they'll have a specific length/depth to allow you to reach infinity focus...but some of the cheaper ones have an incorrect length/depth and you won't be able to focus to infinity. Good adapters (no element or electrical contacts) cost between $5 and $25. If they cost more, they have some additional feature (macro extension, electric contacts, shift capabilities, built in ND filters etc.) or are simply overpriced. Speedboosters are basically adapters which contain an element inside. This element takes the light rays coming through the lens, and concentrates them on the sensor. Since the lens is made for a bigger sensor, some of the light going through the lens would end up outside the sensor if a cheap adapter were to be used. With a speedbooster you gain more light and the focal length gets reduced a bit. I personally recommend the Viltrox. It's AS GOOD AS the overpriced Metabones speedboosters, while being more efficient (x0.68 instead of x0.71) and having a tighter fit. Metabones is often loose on the camera from what I read... As for the lenses, you'll save a great deal of money if you already own SLR lenses (Canon, Nikon, etc.)...you won't need to buy expensive Micro4/3 glass...but I suggest you get the Lumix 12-35mm f2.8 if you'll be using your camera for video. You'll get Dual Stabilization (body and lens) and you'll have a great little lens for the streets, while traveling and so on; Micro4/3 lenses are incredibly small compared to those massive FF lenses, perhaps that's why they cost a lot. Probably the best tip I'll be giving you today: Find and buy vintage lenses!!! The Soviet M42 and M39 lenses are incredibly unique, mainly because of their swirly bokeh and creamy look. Japanese and German lenses are incredibly sharp, and you'll be baffled to find out that you can buy a great Canon FD prime for $30, while a modern Panasonic prime will cost you hundreds or thousands of Dollars/Euros. Check antique shops, garage sales, open air bazaars and what not. If you live in the US or a big European country, you'll find lots of vintage lenses in such places, and they're usually sold by people that have no idea of their value. If you're like me and don't have a lot of access to such lenses, ebay might be a great solutions. They are a bit more expensive online, but they're worth it if you can afford them. My end goal in regards to lenses is to own as many different Helios, Industar, Mir, Vega (Soviet) lenses, while also owning a complete set of Canon FD or Carl Zeiss primes for shooting video. Plus the Lumix 12-35mm f2.8 for the stabilization, accurate colour rendition and other features that only modern (and native) lenses have.

  • @HGQjazz

    @HGQjazz

    4 жыл бұрын

    But lower is better in this case anyway.

  • @TrigramProductions
    @TrigramProductions4 жыл бұрын

    When I tested Metabones and Viltrox with my BMPCC 4k, it wasn't even a question of how superior Metabones was. It retained full sharpness wide open to max aperture and it remained scary sharp while the Viltrox struggled faster than f/2.5. I also noticed some flaring with the Viltrox due to the lower quality optics. The durability and electronic responsiveness when adjusting settings was also more reliable on the Metabones. There was a clear winner to me but still, the Viltrox is so affordable it's worth starting out there.

  • @zechenwei1139

    @zechenwei1139

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, which metabones version ar you talking about? is it the one exclusive to BMPCC 4k or the one for all MFT cameras? I'm debating whether I should get the "generic" one(about $400 on eBay) or the specifically designed one($600+) for my BMPCC 4k. Thank you in advance!

  • @glennparker8247
    @glennparker82474 жыл бұрын

    what do you use for audio? it sounds amazing

  • @XSStrings
    @XSStrings4 жыл бұрын

    I know it's a bit of a picky question but when you did the sharpness test on between Viltrox and Metabones, did you refocus or just swap the lenses? Depth of field is different on the viltrox than the metabones so maybe the focusing distance is slightly off too? Just a thought.

  • @scissorfightmedia
    @scissorfightmedia2 жыл бұрын

    Was the autofocus test done on the bmpcc4K? That looks like it's tracking the subject moving forward/back, which I didn't think the pocket could do?

  • @louishutchinson5907
    @louishutchinson59073 жыл бұрын

    @geraldundone what are your thoughts on the various speed boosters out for the L mount system? There is a metabones Nikon F mount to L and the Sigma MC21 which opens up the Canon EF system to L mount users. I am new to to purchasing cameras but looking for a lower cost alternative to expensive L mount lenses. Better to go with metabones to Nikon F lenses or Sigma for the Canon lenses?

  • @JamieFenn
    @JamieFenn4 жыл бұрын

    What about the original one made for the original bmpcc? Have you used that on the BMPCC4k?

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have not, and if I remember correctly Metabones does not recommend it.

  • @JamieFenn

    @JamieFenn

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@geraldundone Weird, I thought I saw that they said it would work. Maybe I got it confused with the regular MFT adapter. haha btw loved the go fuck yourself San Diego at the end btw... XD Your videos are getting better and better.

  • @KarbisSarafyan
    @KarbisSarafyan4 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried out the Metabones XL 0.64x ? I think that one will be more comparable to the EF-M2.

  • @ivan90988ify
    @ivan90988ify3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Sharpness test is on maximum open aperture?

  • @benkarpinski6953
    @benkarpinski69534 жыл бұрын

    Gerald what would you recommend for adapting my EF-S lenses for my pocket 4K.

  • @theportraitist4888
    @theportraitist48884 жыл бұрын

    I just picked up the Pixco speed booster, 2 days ago. Just $89 US on Amazon. I picked up the FD > MFT converter for classic Canon FD glass, which are all manual, and mine are primes. So the electronics are not an issue to me, only the glass and the mount quality. And while I haven't done pixel peeping just yet, the images immediately look sharper and brighter. My Canon FD 50/1.4 was already tack sharp and now is a tack sharp 35 mm/1.0. My 28/2.8 FD was only okay before. But now seems to be a much more crisp 20 mm/2.0. And the mounting both camera and lens side seem to be pretty much spot-on. So over all great value and highly recommended.

  • @SiloneulaFishingProductions

    @SiloneulaFishingProductions

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Portraitist Do you have any video with the Pixco speedbooster and Canon Fd lenses with thr bmpcc 4k ?

  • @theportraitist4888

    @theportraitist4888

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SiloneulaFishingProductions H. No, I use it with a Lumix G85.

  • @Bunsdo
    @Bunsdo4 жыл бұрын

    Dude your gonna be hella popular one day all you need now is time.

  • @saberwasel
    @saberwasel4 жыл бұрын

    Next intro : what's happening everybody this is Garled undone and it's time to party!

  • @GoapprStudios
    @GoapprStudios4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Gerald, for all your hard work and I learned so much. So will both the Metabones 0.63 and 0.71 work with the APC-S lens? I own you lunch next time you're in San Diego ca. I Just got the Viltrox EF-M2 II and you cant use the EF-S lens with it but it's working great is very sharp. The unit I got was a good snug on booth ends and next will work on making parfocal. Thank you again for your help.

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure! No, the XL (0.64x) is for full frame only. Get the Ultra (0.71x) for crop lenses. 😃

  • @GoapprStudios

    @GoapprStudios

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@geraldundone Thank You again for all the great info. Now I'm going down the right path. Have you looked at the Tilta flip screen kit for the BMPCC 4K & 6K ?

  • @Albanez39

    @Albanez39

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@GoapprStudios The Viltrox EF-M2 reduces the focal length by approx. x0.68. You might need to move the speedbooster's element back to mount EF-S lenses on it though.

  • @razvanzot6297
    @razvanzot62974 жыл бұрын

    Can you say exactly what is the version on the metabones, when you did the autofocus test? Thanks and keep it up!

  • @geraldundone

    @geraldundone

    4 жыл бұрын

    Firmware update V3.4 = BAD Firmware update V3.31 = GOOD

  • @rawmediapaul
    @rawmediapaul4 жыл бұрын

    I've watched this video like 5 times.. Thanks for the info Gerald!!! Just bought the Viltrox MII with your link!

  • @ekphotography
    @ekphotography4 жыл бұрын

    I am fine with my Viltrox MII I only use Manual focus lenses. I did notice that had to turn my inner glass on the Viltrox all the way to get infinity focus which you will not get with your parafocal test. You should have done a infinity focus on all of them. Mine was not getting even close to infinity until I turned it all the way.. thanks!

  • @MaMuang

    @MaMuang

    4 жыл бұрын

    And turn it all the way in the opposite way and you will make any lense a macro lense ;)

  • @3WingProductions
    @3WingProductions2 жыл бұрын

    So what do you think maybe Prime lens might be perfect for the Viltrox EF-M2 II? I've been using a voigtlander that's been great but I'd like to explore with a speed booster.

  • @artisarium
    @artisarium3 жыл бұрын

    TIPS FOR 1st GEN VILTROX: After some surgery I just managed to adjust my Viltrox EF-M2 (first gen) to get my Sigma DC 17-50 parfocal. The problem I encountered was that I couldn't turn the speedboster lens enough to arrive at the parfocal point. So I screwed off and removed the lens and saw some heat-glue protruding on the inside of the circular pcb-board wich I removed with a bent surgury knife. After that I could screw the lens about one turn more then before and that was enough to hit the spot of parfocalness! Hope this helps someone else as well!

  • @einstankan
    @einstankan4 жыл бұрын

    And on... And on... And on... Great stuff..

  • @wright96d
    @wright96d4 жыл бұрын

    Next intro you should say "This town ain't big enough for the two of us"

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