Spartan-IV's are a liability - Lore and Theory

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In this episode: We discuss the massive security breach that is Spartan-IV shore leave!!!
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  • @Mgauge
    @Mgauge4 жыл бұрын

    I never understood why fans get so pissy about the Spartan IVs. Humanity is hilariously underpowered in this setting. Every major alien faction is more advanced, more numerous, and vastly more physically powerful than humanity. The horrendously unethical SPARTAN III program was one of many terrible things done to try to make up for this massive power gap, and it barely worked. After seeing the success of the Spartan program as being one of the only things giving some measure of advantage, why would any sane military NOT attempt to replicate it on a larger scale. Especially if it can be done without resorting to atrocities like those used to make the IIs and IIIs. Even if the IVs are half as good as a II, that’s still a massive step up from the basic marines that get slaughtered en masse by individual Elites. Chief is still as special as ever. He didn’t drop in quality just because other soldiers aren’t completely helpless in his presence.

  • @Installation00

    @Installation00

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've got no issue with humanity becoming more powerful and augmentations being rolled out to larger portions of the military. My issue stems from the nomenclature. Augment humans, that's absolutely fine. Just don't call them Spartans. Spartans, by their very definition, especially on regards to their historical origins, are children trained from an early age to be the greatest warriors in the world. The 4s were not children, they were adults. So they're not Spartans. Might make a video on this, where I explore how and why the 4s are given a tough time. Mind if I reference your comment?

  • @Mgauge

    @Mgauge

    4 жыл бұрын

    Installation00 Sure. I’m good with that. Just keep in mind that the name, both in and out of universe, was applied to them because it references the now-legendary warriors like Chief. It’s much easier to get recruits for your new program if you brand it as a way to become like the hero who saved humanity from its darkest hour.

  • @stevenjones7823

    @stevenjones7823

    4 жыл бұрын

    Basic Marines don't get slaughtered, they can hold their own they know what they are doing. Normal people don't even get slaughtered unless it's Jackles and Brutes doing the killing. Elites don't find it honorable to kill those that do not plan on fighting and they respect humans. Grunts don't want to be there in the first place and hunters just seem like they do whatever the elites tell them to do. Humans aren't outclassed as much as you think. Odsts can take a damn gravity hammer to the chest and survive. Marines have survived countless wars which in return they get turned into odsts. That doesn't happen our of the blue man and there are tons of odst to prove it. With just a knife and odst took down a brute...what's stopping any normal human from doing that? Fear. Once you get over your fear and let determination take you over then you'll be in good shape. Humans are naturally powerful but our brains don't allow us to use all that power or we hurt ourselves. This is why we have pain receptors and why we can paralyze ourselves in various scenarios like sleep for example. We are a species that revolve around adapting quickly. We don't take millions of years to evolve into something crazy, we do that in a hundred.

  • @Mgauge

    @Mgauge

    4 жыл бұрын

    Steven Jones You know what strategists call someone who relies entirely on “determination” to face massively overpowering opposition? It’s “morons”. How many marines die for you to get maybe three that have short bursts of hysterical strength that might help them overcome the basic swipe of an Elite once, at the costs of breaking their arms? Will you be “determined” enough to ignore a plasma blast dissolving your armor? Stop thinking in pure videogame terms and see it in semi-realistically. An ODST can barely survive ridiculous punishment in-game, but in a real setting, that isn’t why happens when facing weapons that break tanks. This isn’t shonen anime or something. “Determination” doesn’t overcome everything. That’s just on a purely small infantry level. On a larger level, marines were getting slaughtered by the droves. The Covenant was driving humanity near extinction. The population was cut down to a small fraction of what it once was by the end. Now humanity faces not only their remnants, but enemy factions that greatly outclass them. No sane person is going to reject a method of making better soldiers to at least attempt to prepare to fight these threats.

  • @colt4531

    @colt4531

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mgauge I think my biggest problem steps off the line of strategy, and logic and i just roll my eyes whenever i see the annoying ass written characters that are the spartan 4s, but thats just me

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon4 жыл бұрын

    So you DO believe the Master Chief did in fact succeed because he was at his core, broken.

  • @user-cj3ik9qq6m

    @user-cj3ik9qq6m

    4 жыл бұрын

    One part of halo I used to love ODST's and the fact you was the last spartan

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. Any sane man would have given up and died, or killed himself.

  • @Starlesslemon

    @Starlesslemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mortablunt do you even understand my reference?

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Starlesslemon I played Halo 4.

  • @stevenjones7823

    @stevenjones7823

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mortablunt no he is same that's why he's doing this. He understand what it takes, if he doesn't then that's the end for humanity and that's it. He has nothing to lose

  • @williambibens4508
    @williambibens45084 жыл бұрын

    So what you’re saying is there needs to be a lifeguard in the gene pool?

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149

    @zalrohglekgolo6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    *blows whistle* NO RUNNING

  • @12LoLproductions

    @12LoLproductions

    4 жыл бұрын

    You, out of the gene pool!

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149

    @zalrohglekgolo6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    NO DIVING

  • @exuberance1134

    @exuberance1134

    4 жыл бұрын

    WE GOT A FLOATER

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149

    @zalrohglekgolo6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    SOMEONE PEED EVERYONE OUT

  • @jackbharucha1475
    @jackbharucha14754 жыл бұрын

    I believe we found the plot of Halo 8: Child Support

  • @wyattbranham4919

    @wyattbranham4919

    3 жыл бұрын

    The greatest enemy of mankind 😂

  • @zyncwargaming179

    @zyncwargaming179

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Robert Smith what if they accdiantly commit a murrder?

  • @majesticproductions7254

    @majesticproductions7254

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zyncwargaming179 Master chief killed 4 odst’s 14 out of 27 marines and 2 pilots.

  • @mortem-tyrannis

    @mortem-tyrannis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Play on easy as a female Or unbeatable as a male, that's how they'll need to make the difficulty levels.

  • @AS-fp4gb

    @AS-fp4gb

    5 ай бұрын

    I bet you money that active duty Spartans get some kind of birth control implant.

  • @SUNDREDSTAR
    @SUNDREDSTAR4 жыл бұрын

    Never thought i'd get the "birds and bee's" talk from a halo lore chanel.

  • @kkhunt7

    @kkhunt7

    4 жыл бұрын

    How do birds and bees have sex? I still don't get it!?!?

  • @spacerbreaker

    @spacerbreaker

    3 жыл бұрын

    My parents never gave me the talk, this is my first time hearing it be explained by someone out loud lol

  • @garrettlich7140

    @garrettlich7140

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love paleontology and zoology and I learned about human reproduction from that or rather I figured it out from such study’s

  • @anthonym6160
    @anthonym61604 жыл бұрын

    It was bound to happen as soon as they perfected the augmentations enough to not need children. The II’s have never known anything but war and training, they can’t remember a life outside of that. Most of the threes died outside of Gama Company and the 4’s are essentially Tony Starks.. good soldiers, but normal people elevated to demigod status. That doesn’t weed out assholes and bad people. Those people can be awesome soldiers and also be someone I don’t want to be around. As you can notice I stopped 3 mins in to comment on your first point.. playing the rest now haha

  • @TellisTorterra

    @TellisTorterra

    4 жыл бұрын

    As someone with experience in enlisted military, I can assure you it's more common than you think. Really good people as a troop, potentially scummy as an individual person.. or as you put it: people you don't always want to be around.

  • @Chevalier_knight

    @Chevalier_knight

    4 жыл бұрын

    Military has a huge problem with gangs getting training then using that in gang warfare or vs cold .

  • @MonumentToSin

    @MonumentToSin

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TellisTorterra Or as my father (navy) always tells me, "There's a reason for the military court".

  • @sorcererberoll4641
    @sorcererberoll46414 жыл бұрын

    Spartan gen 1: the original Spartan gen2: the best Spartan gen3: the emergency Spartan gen4: why

  • @dickiewongtk

    @dickiewongtk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because microsoft need to sell xboxes

  • @sorcererberoll4641

    @sorcererberoll4641

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wong Tik Ki what does Xbox’s have to do with why the spartan IVs exist

  • @dickiewongtk

    @dickiewongtk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sorcererberoll4641 halo is the exclusive title that come out with each new generation of xboxes, no?

  • @khalee95

    @khalee95

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dickiewongtk not anymore pc have it now

  • @zonnodon163

    @zonnodon163

    3 жыл бұрын

    Truth

  • @Ben-mq4wx
    @Ben-mq4wx4 жыл бұрын

    "Your mistake is thinking of Spartans as military hardware, my Spartans are humanity's next step in evolution" C. Halsey.

  • @Armageist
    @Armageist4 жыл бұрын

    Halsey said Spartans are the future of Humanity. She couldn't have been more right with Pandora's box being opened with the Spartan IV's.

  • @dreamingflurry2729

    @dreamingflurry2729

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why Pandora's box? I think they have enough knowledge that this is not actually a danger, but a benefit to humanity! Seriously, this Star Trek esque "Superhumans will always strive to dominate other humans" schtick simply sucks especially since if isn't true! That is like saying all tall and strong humans will turn into bullies, when in reality it is the socialization that will determin what happens! With great parents etc. those advanced humans will probably benefit humanity as a whole!

  • @Armageist

    @Armageist

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dreamingflurry2729 And why would you assume their parents are going to be great? Their parents are ordinary flawed and sometimes damaged humans made into Spartans. And if we've seen anything with Humans, including Haloverse, they create conflict where there are differences, imbalances, inequality. It could be the "normies" that turn on the genetic "freaks" ala x-men. It could be a splinter group of genetic superiors determined they are better than what they are serving and choose to start their own civilization ala the clans of battletech or Khan of star trek. There are a myriad of possibilities and who knows what genetic abnormalities or aberrations crop up in the synthetic evolution of mankind. Space travel itself is always supposed to bring a golden age to humanity where we unite together and stop letting our differences define us. And what happens? New difference crop up, like the Colonies (Inner/Outer) and Earth Prime. There wouldn't be a story to tell in Hslo without conflict, whether internal (humanity) or external (alien).

  • @AdamantLightLP

    @AdamantLightLP

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dreamingflurry2729 this isn't the "this guy is taller and stronger" it's "this guy is literally half/full superhuman" I.e. It will breed a massive amount of inequality... Eugenics anyone?

  • @MonumentToSin

    @MonumentToSin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Pandora's box... or a dick in a box? Hahahaha.....Sorry, I'll leave now...

  • @jameson1239

    @jameson1239

    4 жыл бұрын

    AdamantSilver yep

  • @joshreyes3624
    @joshreyes36244 жыл бұрын

    I just realized that the return of blue team was foreshadowed in the intro to halo 4. "MY spartans are humanity's next step, our destiny as a species... *dont underestimate them*, and more importantly, dont underestimate HIM."

  • @grantlauzon5237

    @grantlauzon5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think she knew Blue team was alive. She also might have just been speaking in the past tense (Don't underestimate my Novels) because she was jail and didn't think she'd be getting out.

  • @shirouthehero696

    @shirouthehero696

    4 жыл бұрын

    Of course she knew Blue Team was alive... the books went over hew being with Blue Team on Reach and getting rescued, I think in First Strike, set between Halo and Halo 2

  • @joshreyes3624

    @joshreyes3624

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes yes, but as the audience, we didnt know they were coming back as characters in the games. This was such a subtle hint, that im sure most missed it for years. I sure did.

  • @grantlauzon5237

    @grantlauzon5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    Josh Reyes I think they wanted 4 player co op to incentivize having friends by separate copies and not play split screen. But as Joe Rogan would say “it’s entirely possible”

  • @gabrielm.942

    @gabrielm.942

    4 жыл бұрын

    No it’s a reference to Her Spartans vs the IIIs and IVs.

  • @cirrusfox8052
    @cirrusfox80524 жыл бұрын

    The new Spartan 4s are just overly cocky ODST's with energy shields. Change my mind.

  • @titytitmk2738

    @titytitmk2738

    4 жыл бұрын

    They were in Halo 4. BY Halo 5, they've had the gung ho cockyness drilled and trained out of them by Jun, a few other surviving Spartan III's and Chief Mendez and his team of specialist training personnel.

  • @slumberingember

    @slumberingember

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@titytitmk2738 you dont even see them in halo 5 which is depressing. Hated so badly they werent even in the game XD

  • @spartangoku7610

    @spartangoku7610

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chief Mendez is located within the Onyx Dyson Sphere, overseeing a joint UNSC/Swords of Sanghelios operation.

  • @jesuschristcunt8469

    @jesuschristcunt8469

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@slumberingember Bruh u play most of the game as a spartan 4

  • @pastordonkoh7692

    @pastordonkoh7692

    4 жыл бұрын

    You have to be a moron cast an entire class of Spartans based off one superficial representation of a fire team. Majestic that is. How many fire teams are there?

  • @VallornDeathblade
    @VallornDeathblade4 жыл бұрын

    Fireteam Fratboy are a mistake in general. The idea that you can just shove Spartan level augmentations into these people to make them into Spartans without the strict level of indoctrination and long term training that made the Spartan 2s humanity's finest warriors, or the traumas and then high-intensity training of the Spartan 3s into highly effective, team-oriented soldiers even without Mjolnir... Well it's just absurd. Spartans are much more than just their augmentations or equipment. I would say what makes a human into a Spartan is primarily the unmatched training and the close-knit, almost familial bonds between Spartans that result from that, including the secret, insular code phrases known only to Spartan operatives and noone else. The armour and augmentations just allow them to utilize this training to the highest degree possible.

  • @riograndenationalist8726

    @riograndenationalist8726

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even without augmentations I feel as if the Spartan 2s would be the most elite unit in the UNSC due to their lifetime of training and experience. (Though their mortality rate would certainly be higher)

  • @platiuscyndar9017

    @platiuscyndar9017

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think a problem with Spartan IV's is largely in a way how they're portrayed vs. what they actually are. They're portrayed as the next generation of spartan, but they are not that. Spartan IV's are essentially "normal" soldiers (compared to other Spartans) with Spartan-level aguments and armor. And whilst it's true that this does not replace the training of a previous-generation Spartan, it does allow the soldier to use their own, less impressive training to a far superior extent then what they could do without the Spartan augments. They're to spartans II's and III's what a common soldier is to a special forces soldier. They're the comparatively untrained marine to the SEALs that the previous spartan generations where. Any special forces unit needs gruints to hold the line where they are not. And the better equipped the grunt is, the better it can hold the line.

  • @VallornDeathblade

    @VallornDeathblade

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@platiuscyndar9017 Thinking of the Spartan IVs as Spartan footsloggers made my day. Thanks.

  • @nihilityjoey

    @nihilityjoey

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really. 117 disobeyed orders for love and loyalty. Hes no less fallible than any of the fours in this respect. And you can debate about the worthiness of others as Spartans all you want but this video is not ultimately about that.

  • @Starlesslemon

    @Starlesslemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    The only reason the spartan 2s were taken as children is because the old augmentations only worked if given to children.

  • @CompactCowboy
    @CompactCowboy4 жыл бұрын

    So if everyone could be super soldiers. Then that becomes normal. So then what will we do to make the next super soldiers? How far will we go? What lines are we willing to cross?

  • @habibainunsyifaf6463

    @habibainunsyifaf6463

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mechanized super soldiers with augmented physiology and armament while able to be digitized back and forth.

  • @grantlauzon5237

    @grantlauzon5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    IDK. Ask the forerunners. Also Halsey didn't seem to care much when passing legal and moral lines so I don't know how far a military eugenics program would go.

  • @seanmcgrath3826

    @seanmcgrath3826

    4 жыл бұрын

    Knowing what we do about ONI, I would say they'd cross ALL of them...

  • @agentmaryland1239

    @agentmaryland1239

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@seanmcgrath3826 What *EVER* made you think that? I mean, ONI *TOTALLY* isn't trying to experiment with Flood genetic makeup and bacterium to try and make the next breed of Spartan Super Soldier. *TOTALLY* not at all!

  • @seanmcgrath3826

    @seanmcgrath3826

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@agentmaryland1239 Thank you for correcting me. Whatever was I thinking? ONI would never do anything so awful or immoral; they only want to PROTECT humanity and its allies. Every. Single. Individual. One. Of. Them!

  • @AntonNight
    @AntonNight2 жыл бұрын

    Came back to this after playing Halo: Infinite and I’ll say this: the Spartan IVs who we find slain were worthy of the title. Five or more months on Zeta Halo, forced to take the reins and without any hope of support from off world…and yet they all fought to the end. Especially Spartan Griffin .

  • @bustoasiain

    @bustoasiain

    4 ай бұрын

    You arent wrong but I think that it's more the tenacity and postwar human behaviour that made them resist so long. It's because of this that the Covenant war was so long, im pretty sure that in the 4s gen where many good soldiers, more over the ODST Army & Marines veterans that take the augmentations but the others they were "rush" jobs without the screening of 2s gens (3s not so much) as well as the streamlining the process making the more cheap more human but not as effective as 2s and 3s even if this ones where silver bulets

  • @supsup335
    @supsup3354 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't they acctually encourage Spartan 4's to have children in order to produce 4.1's? creating a base in the population from which to recruit?

  • @torianjones9591

    @torianjones9591

    4 жыл бұрын

    There will most likely be deformities from the augmentations.

  • @albar428

    @albar428

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@torianjones9591 not really there is a possibility but we dont know the tech they have then so maybe they wont.

  • @tonywebb1403

    @tonywebb1403

    4 жыл бұрын

    I asumed the same thing better baseline some augmentations you would not need to perform and i would think less of a chance of rejection of futher augmentation

  • @michaelkean5969

    @michaelkean5969

    4 жыл бұрын

    spartan 2 3 and 4s cannot have children just like the space marines in warhammer 40k the augmentations render their desire to and ability to procreate null and void.

  • @danielhandika8767

    @danielhandika8767

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelkean5969 2 and 3? yes the four are still pretty much normal, heck the opening scene from spartan ops shows that one of spartan 4 want to flirt to commander palmer

  • @jshizzle6065
    @jshizzle60654 жыл бұрын

    Imagine being at school and asked what you dad does for a living. "He's a spartan"

  • @spartangoku7610

    @spartangoku7610

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jay B315 and then have to go on to say he’s from Greece and he is unemployed.

  • @awesometjgreen
    @awesometjgreen4 жыл бұрын

    Seems like humanity is naturally reverting back to how they were before the forerunners de-evolved them.

  • @DaSquareful

    @DaSquareful

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are we talking about 343s characters or current events?

  • @SpartanSpartan-pg4zk

    @SpartanSpartan-pg4zk

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's still too slow

  • @subninja8069

    @subninja8069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaSquareful Perhaps both?

  • @subninja8069

    @subninja8069

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaSquareful Perhaps both?

  • @nanomachinesson2513
    @nanomachinesson25134 жыл бұрын

    Ya.......... this is actually a good thing. Humanity in Halo is incredibly outgunned physically by almost every single race in the covenant. Hell, ripping humans apart was literally a GAME for the brures. Any increase in humanities physical prowess would be a bigger asset than liability when competing against these alien threats. The proliferation ability of Spartan 4s is actually probably something ONI wants as you can be damn sure this would have occurred to them.

  • @ToxicCalvin

    @ToxicCalvin

    4 жыл бұрын

    You forgot about the fact that the rebellion won't just dissapear, not everyone is a UNSC loyalist, when you have what are essentially super humans rebelling, it's a bit harder to quell than regular humans. Don't forget, the original inspiration for the spartan program was the insurrectionists, UNSC were losing.

  • @ReaperofValhalla

    @ReaperofValhalla

    4 жыл бұрын

    Though by human nature they could be the next man man genocide. There might be a rather large group of people that believe ONI is the new illuminati and may go on a witch hunt as being unnatural freaks. Another thing is that because of the genetic tempering the Spartans past on could affect their mentality that they CANT function without military indoctrination at an early stage because they become super human psychopaths

  • @niofalpha

    @niofalpha

    4 жыл бұрын

    Humans were forcibly unevolved by the Forerunners after the Human- Forerunner war. Spartans are just returning to that level.

  • @Grimulfr

    @Grimulfr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let's be real here too, the UNSC wasn't really the good guy before the Covenant arrived. They weren't necessarily the bad guy either, but they were headed that direction...as the Spartan project and the Spartan II's original missions point out.

  • @Aden_III

    @Aden_III

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Grimulfr Its the WH40k morality question: does humanity need to be a united front once we discover space travel amd become an interstellar species?

  • @jamesharbinger1711
    @jamesharbinger17113 жыл бұрын

    The scene where Majestic was in that engagement with the promethans, and Hoya just steps out of cover and gets clapped was all the proof I needed the Spartan-IVs weren’t true Spartans

  • @mxm23adregalusandmore62
    @mxm23adregalusandmore624 жыл бұрын

    When everyone's spartan *no one will be* Lol

  • @LtDavidB312

    @LtDavidB312

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Moneymoneymoneymoneymoney- WE CAN’T KEEP DOING THIS, CHIEF!” - Lord Hood (Probably)

  • @F0XHunter

    @F0XHunter

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean, not everyone is a spartan, to even begin to enlist to become one you would need to be the best of the best

  • @user-cj3ik9qq6m

    @user-cj3ik9qq6m

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just think they threw away ODST's for this shit

  • @gabrielm.942

    @gabrielm.942

    4 жыл бұрын

    BlackStar 458 mmmmmmmm no lol. Olympia Vale was a translator who spoke sangheili. Lol most of them aren’t the best of the best. It’s all BS

  • @robertharris6092

    @robertharris6092

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well every citizen of sparta were spartans and soldiers.

  • @CrimsonKnyght
    @CrimsonKnyght4 жыл бұрын

    You can't blame Spartan-IV's, they are literally what happens when you make legends such as the Spartan II's and III's, have soldiers look up to them and this is what happens when you give them the opportunity to become a Spartan, yes it will go to their head, yes veterans do get cocky and hell, even use it to make connections. Looking at the augs for Spartan-IV's there doesn't seem to be anything going as deep as DNA, closest thing is altered nerve cells to speed up reaction so if say Spartan-IV's did have kids, they wouldn't be much different as most if not all augs are implants.

  • @hartianx1698

    @hartianx1698

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the IVs get telemere lengthening that will supposedly keep them combat capable for over a century and improving the effectiveness of their chondrocytes to improve cartilage I think.

  • @CrimsonKnyght

    @CrimsonKnyght

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hartianx1698 Yeah so not much on their DNA but we haven't seen long term Spartan-IV's yet, hell even II's or those from the Orian project, evidence is Johnson at near 70's when he died and he was still fighting

  • @panamaklz

    @panamaklz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CrimsonKnyght telomeres are literally at the end of chromosomes homie, which involves altering DNA

  • @CrimsonKnyght

    @CrimsonKnyght

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@panamaklz Oooohhh, now I remember, been a while since I touched on biology

  • @CedarHunt

    @CedarHunt

    4 жыл бұрын

    Telomeres could be lengthened via means that wouldn't be heritable. Most genetically engineered cells wouldn't be passed on to offspring.

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon4 жыл бұрын

    The Human’s Covenant: Grunts: Marines Jackals: ODST’s Hunters: Operators Elites: Real Spartans Brutes: Spartan .1’s & .2’s Prophets: ONI Edit: This is not meant to be a 1:1 comparison and equivalent. I’m saying that this is how a human version of the covenant would lay out.

  • @BOOMGUY-ez7gg

    @BOOMGUY-ez7gg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Schneeflocke Monsoon where’s ODST

  • @alephkasai9384

    @alephkasai9384

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BOOMGUY-ez7gg ODST = Spec Ops elites

  • @MrPureManure

    @MrPureManure

    4 жыл бұрын

    Everything: Tank

  • @Phantom6.6.6

    @Phantom6.6.6

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude even spartan 2s couldn't match brutes in a straightforward physical challenge

  • @Password450

    @Password450

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Phantom6.6.6 they more than match them on adrenaline, hell even one ripped a hunter in half...

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242
    @RebelOfTheNorm2424 жыл бұрын

    The Emperor of Man wouldn't stand for his legionnaires acting in such a frattish manner. Rogal Dorn would straighten them out

  • @alexfrost2799

    @alexfrost2799

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eh, the only real reason there were only a million or two Astartes from the beginning was so that they couldn’t overthrow and rule humanity as it currently was. The Imperium certainly has the resources to make more Astartes than that

  • @RebelOfTheNorm242

    @RebelOfTheNorm242

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex Frost uh...so what does that have to do with the code of conduct for astartes during the golden days of the Imperium, was sky high

  • @theark4568

    @theark4568

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex Frost You do realise there was nearly one million Ultramarines at one point?

  • @alexfrost2799

    @alexfrost2799

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wrong, there were only 250,000 at max during the height of the Horus Heresy

  • @alexfrost2799

    @alexfrost2799

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just saying, the Astartes would have faced the same problems as the one proposed in the video were it not for said code of conduct

  • @gorrumKnight
    @gorrumKnight4 жыл бұрын

    That's what happens when you go for quantity over quality.

  • @FollowedGaming

    @FollowedGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like super quality over super mega quality

  • @TheMickey0718

    @TheMickey0718

    4 жыл бұрын

    But do keep in mind that the spartan IV program is overall better from a morality standpoint than any of the iterations of the prior spartan programs.

  • @VallornDeathblade

    @VallornDeathblade

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickey0718 This is ONI we're talking about. I don't think morality enters into their calculations

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149

    @zalrohglekgolo6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@VallornDeathblade that's where you're wrong, it was Oni's idea to make the Spartans a boost for the morale In Humanity post the Original covenant war. It's even mentioned by the director of Halo 4.

  • @VallornDeathblade

    @VallornDeathblade

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zalrohglekgolo6149 ONI Section 3 created them before the covenant war to take down rebel groups. During the covenant war ONI Section 2 decided to selectively 'leak' information about the Spartan 2s to improve morale (since the Covenant were otherwise steamrolling Humanity), this is where myths like Spartans only ever being listed as MIA and never KIA came from. The Spartan programs ended up coming fully into the light post war because they kind of had to, not because they wanted to.

  • @acrustykrab
    @acrustykrab4 жыл бұрын

    Some may say Spartan 4s are mostly semen dispensers to spread specific genetics among the populace lol

  • @zacharyzier314
    @zacharyzier3143 жыл бұрын

    I would point out that Spartan IV’s aren’t detached from the Spartan II program, in fact, they were conceived by a Spartan II, Musa-096. And Musa had beef with Halsey, like serious, “I will kill you if I see your face” kind of beef. And then you have another Spartan II overseeing him, Serin-019, Admiral Osman, ONI overall commander, and we all know how she felt about Halsey. So it stands to reason the Spartan IV’s are specifically geared to NOT BE what Halsey said about the Spartans being an evolutionary step due to the animosity of these two brilliant minds towards her and her actions. ONI isn’t stupid, and a pair of Spartan II’s with ONI resources is going to put the dots together in regards to the potential of Spartan traits being passed on into the general population and thus we have an explanation for the physical inferiority of Spartan IV’s. The traits that make them so powerful have the potential to be passed on, and as a result they have no sexual drive but are still kept on a tight leash. Musa, who abhorred the immorality of the Spartan II Program wouldn’t do something like sterilizing the IV’s as a condition of service, but he would use the technological advances the UNSC had made to make the IV’s powerful, but not risk the potential for passing on their genes, ONI just would not allow that, not after the 1.1’s came to light and certainly not after Blue Team went AWOL and experienced being on the opposite side (somewhat) of four Spartans. What I’m saying is that the theory that the IV’s represent a security risk due to their Humanity is not valid due to the fact their Humanity would be taken into account by a group like ONI.

  • @JHS270694
    @JHS2706944 жыл бұрын

    Dr Halsey would approve of this video. Sidenote: I'd also be very intimidated if my wife was 6ft6, could bench warthogs and was an ex spec ops super soldier... Imagine getting into an argument! I'd be dead before I hit the ground. :(

  • @limbo8251

    @limbo8251

    4 жыл бұрын

    You say intimidated, but tall chicks are my fetish. Tfw no 6’6 Spartan GF.

  • @dreamingflurry2729

    @dreamingflurry2729

    4 жыл бұрын

    Indeed, power imbalances to that degree in relationships kind of suck! That's why I never understand how normal people can date any of the following: Vampire, Sorcreress/Mage, super-soldier etc. - you can't even argue with them because on slip and you are freaking paste!

  • @mcd0ndal

    @mcd0ndal

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cultured individuals who appreciate amazoness muscle bound snusnu gf

  • @Jedi_Spartan_38
    @Jedi_Spartan_384 жыл бұрын

    Romeo would definitely be a case of this.

  • @MrAvakstone92

    @MrAvakstone92

    4 жыл бұрын

    nah, many will say Romeo deserves to be an Spartan... but just for nostalgia

  • @hummerskickass

    @hummerskickass

    4 жыл бұрын

    Romeo despite his flaws, is actually a very good spartan. Read bad blood.

  • @Jedi_Spartan_38

    @Jedi_Spartan_38

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hummerskickass good point, he's better than Mickey.

  • @michaelkean5969

    @michaelkean5969

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hummerskickass Romeo is claimed by many to be almost as good a sniper as Linda now that he's a spartan.

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler054 жыл бұрын

    They are a disappointing era of the Spartan Program, the High Ground Council, including Chief, was in complete agreement that they are indeed a liability

  • @madness0169

    @madness0169

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spartan Generations have to move on at sometime right?

  • @griffin5653

    @griffin5653

    4 жыл бұрын

    Madness 01 No, we all know Spartans never die. There for they cannot age because the high ground is strong within them.

  • @madness0169

    @madness0169

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@griffin5653 lol whatever you say.

  • @mavelll8103

    @mavelll8103

    4 жыл бұрын

    Madness 01 you don’t understand sarcasm do ya?

  • @madness0169

    @madness0169

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mavelll8103 evidently not, just like you dont understand facts.

  • @Jenniferentrance
    @Jenniferentrance4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve personally inferred from the lore that the augmentations of Spartans are really just bringing humanity back up to the standard they were at in prehistory, and that their children disseminating the augmentations into the general population was part of the greater plan by the librarian to help humans in their reclaimation of their legacy, do you think this is something 343 intends to be the case or do you think the Spartans are always going to be something special and stand outs amongst the rest of humanity even thousands of years into the halo universe’s future?

  • @stijnVDA1994
    @stijnVDA19944 жыл бұрын

    Is there any lore on johnson having children between after the orion project to his death in halo 3?

  • @Installation00

    @Installation00

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nope. No lore of Johnson having kids. But plenty of Johnson making sweet sweet love, because he knows what the ladies like.

  • @stijnVDA1994

    @stijnVDA1994

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Installation00 it should be asked to 343 to think about this maybe some kind of illnes wich the kids could develop wich is the reason the unsc does not allow this to keep spartans more focussed on mission or mission's so they might not fail...

  • @reggy7706

    @reggy7706

    4 жыл бұрын

    That Spartan 1 Pull out game though

  • @thekillerpilll6042

    @thekillerpilll6042

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Installation00..harvest, with an ONI spook...he knows what the ladies like : ]

  • @kevinhellums

    @kevinhellums

    3 жыл бұрын

    he could've had kids but the dog beat him over the fence.

  • @supsup335
    @supsup3354 жыл бұрын

    Also, introducing these people into the population, "improving" the human race from within, isn't that a good thing?

  • @rookie4582

    @rookie4582

    4 жыл бұрын

    supsup335 Who says those will be good guys?

  • @basedsneedclave175

    @basedsneedclave175

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing is they aren't inherently loyal to the UNSC and UEG there have already been Spartan 4s that have become insurrectionists. So we have people with miltary gene enhancements running around to do what they want.

  • @grantlauzon5237

    @grantlauzon5237

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not really a good or a bad thing outside of small pockets of possible inequality/division.

  • @____________838

    @____________838

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s pretty much what 00’s last sentence said.

  • @jimmyseaver3647

    @jimmyseaver3647

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aside from potential Insurrectionists running around with inherited SPARTAN augmentations, there may be a possibility that the kids may go their own route. "A superior man breeds superior ambition."

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149
    @zalrohglekgolo61494 жыл бұрын

    The natural integration of the Spartan formula was part of the Plan by Halsey, Oni is aware of and they don't Necessarily disagree with. Also the human nature of the Spartan IVs is one of the best things about them, the nature of the IIs is a byproduct of a necessity of that time, now we can create Spartans who feel like real people. Also, in the original 3 books the Spartans all had playful banter that feels like this just not about sex. I have a generally different opinion, but I think your missing the forest for the trees here.

  • @agentmaryland1239

    @agentmaryland1239

    4 жыл бұрын

    I suppose you could see it like our own progression of time. What was once considered necessity in say, the 1960's, has been reiterated and improved upon by now and has been readily made accessible to the masses. In the early 2500's, the Spartans were needed to crush a rebellion that would have severely weakened Humanity's forces. The technology was strong, but weak enough that only a few could actually attain such power. In the late 2500's anyone can be a Spartan provided they are adequately healthy enough and have the drive to be a soldier. The technology is weakened slightly, but is strong enough to almost replicate what once was.

  • @zalrohglekgolo6149

    @zalrohglekgolo6149

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@agentmaryland1239 yes, it's a great and honest analogy as long as we remember that technology after the covenant war is still way better. it's like you implied, the Spartans later are almost as good as the earlier gen, but that's because we finally had the ability to make everyone a spartan which is objectively the goal.

  • @mariobadia4553

    @mariobadia4553

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because the bungees Halo games people think Spartans 2's only spew out liners when they talk.

  • @boomer0117zr

    @boomer0117zr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Torino Deguzman I see both yours and installation 00s. I feel like the bar would be set very high and the IVs feel like a B team should the Augmented tech spread sure but should they be called Spartans? I’m not sure. They come off as to normal it’s just a bit to jarring at least in my opinion

  • @talltroll7092

    @talltroll7092

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@torinodeguzman4243 The USMC is not a good model for all soldiers, everywhere. It is a deliberate part of their selection and training that they believe that a few good Marines can accomplish any mission, anywhere, any time, otherwise it might be hard to persuade them to get into nearly unarmoured landing craft and make an opposed landing against fortified positions with semi-auto rifles. The boots and short service members might talk that way, but you tend to get a different vibe from senior NCOs and ORs with some length of service, and especially some real combat experience. They've seen a lot of the motor-mouths come and go, and too often go feet first. I happen to know a couple of UK soldiers and Royal Marines, and their experiences and opinions of the USMC (and US forces in general) are, shall we say, mixed. The more they like to talk about how badass they are, the less likely it is to be true

  • @UnifiedEntity
    @UnifiedEntity4 жыл бұрын

    That first few scenes of the Spartan 4s would make even the chief shake his head in disappointment.

  • @crimsonquill4255

    @crimsonquill4255

    4 жыл бұрын

    I read a great fanfic set after Spartan Ops where Chief's called in to turn the Spartan IVs into Spartans. Very well written. 'Consequences of Revelation'.

  • @tristanbackup2536

    @tristanbackup2536

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's the point, thier human first. They haven't have the same level of training like John when he was a kid. Human physiology & mental development.

  • @UnifiedEntity

    @UnifiedEntity

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tristanbackup2536 They are human but they are not kids. They are involved in potential galaxy wiping conflict every time.

  • @dreamingflurry2729

    @dreamingflurry2729

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which is kind of sad! Chief is kind of a soldier-robot that happens to be biological! Seriously, yes he is not 100% a mindless drone, but 90%? Sure! Hell, he has no hobbies, no person life, no true personality! I pity MC, despite the fact that he's a badass in combat!

  • @Mortablunt

    @Mortablunt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@crimsonquill4255 Links?

  • @isaiahleach1604
    @isaiahleach16044 жыл бұрын

    "They are the next step for Humanity" - Halsey I think...

  • @armadussteel2489
    @armadussteel24893 жыл бұрын

    Imagine this 6'10 female veteran comes to you planet and starts dating you.

  • @MonumentToSin
    @MonumentToSin4 жыл бұрын

    I mean, this is what Halsey meant when she said that the Spartans were the "next step" for human evolution, no? Unless she expected her great Spartan evolution to stop with the Spartan III program? Humanity won't evolve unless the Spartan genes are released into the general population. More nerd rant: I also think that this is what happened to the Forerunners (if one sticks to the original Bungie story of Forerunners being ancient humans); genetic manipulation is what allowed the Forerunners to conquer the galaxy (one of the leading factors, anyway). Why else, out of all the ancient races, were the Forerunners the ones to preserve the genetic material of the other races?

  • @mup8661

    @mup8661

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree, but the Forerunners weren't suppose to be the ones to preserve the other races. They stole that honor from Ancient Humanity by hunting down the Primordials and Knee capping Humanity while they fought the Flood.

  • @clintcarpentier2424
    @clintcarpentier24244 жыл бұрын

    Major Payne "I thought, if the marine corps wanted me to have a wife, they would have issued me one."

  • @NecromancerIV
    @NecromancerIV4 жыл бұрын

    You go hard with lore, I love it

  • @fr0stmourn3
    @fr0stmourn34 жыл бұрын

    People shit on Spartan IVs all the time but damn i think they're cool

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend71894 жыл бұрын

    i think this was an expected outcome by the UNSC as with every generation there would be a likely need to increase the recruitment pole for Spartan units later on. in fact other than the fact most spartan 4 augmentations only give humans the strength of a small brownbear( 300 pounds as the smallest). its not like the Spartan 2 and 3 variations which are much stronger and more likely to have children with abnormalities due to the augmentations. it would also make sense as ONI elements might make use of procreation to make cheaper augments that allows the spartan 3 or 2 style enhancements more viable for special ops. just looking at it if planned right ONI could be using the urges of Spartan 4( why would they have the urge when the augmentations should allow either sterilization or limited sex drives). thats my thoughts as the spreading of the Gen 4 augmentations are rather milder than the previous.

  • @zenoohshit5498

    @zenoohshit5498

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spartan IV augmentations are arguably better than the Spartan III augmentations. Coupled with Mjolnir, they are much stronger than a brown bear, lol. That makes zero sense.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zenoohshit5498 well the augmentations in S4 are less drastic than S2 or S3 units so having S4.1 children can allow for S3 upgrades but more cost effectiveness.

  • @zenoohshit5498

    @zenoohshit5498

    4 жыл бұрын

    Barry Bend S3 Augmentations weren’t even that drastic. It was a dramatic improvement from the SII augmentations. They are quid essentially the same as the SIV augmentations. Though I’m going to argue that the SIV augments are fat superior, just because they whole purpose of the SIII class was to create expendable super soldiers; excluding Gamma Company.

  • @barrybend7189

    @barrybend7189

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zenoohshit5498 well I was just pointing out S3 and 2 augments are on a level higher than the S4. For a comparison I compare the S4 to the astartes while S3 are Custodies( they even share the same expendability) and the S2 to Thunderwarriors from 40K. While all are possible the S4 are much easier to produce. Though unlike 40K you can pass along the genes of spartans to new generations.

  • @gtvn2775

    @gtvn2775

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gen2 mjonir armor (the armor given directly to spartan 4s) increases their levels to near if not at spartan 2 and 3 levels. But the full training is lacking as both the spartan 2 and 3s had efficient training.

  • @saurabhsinghmakrahi
    @saurabhsinghmakrahi4 жыл бұрын

    I think the issue is 'lazy writing' by the writers for Spartan IV's.

  • @DANEMAN5
    @DANEMAN54 жыл бұрын

    I love how in these videos you bring actual science to explain lore. Like this brings me back to some of my anatomy, biology classes while incorporating my next favorite topic, Halo. It’s just so well done, awesome video man.

  • @draco2525
    @draco25254 жыл бұрын

    when I listen to the last clip I think Halsey saw this coming. I also agree the 4s are a liability. the spartan program should have followed the 2s model with some of the 3 program thrown in. But there is potential up side to having the 4s get busy with the rest of humanity. How strong and fast would the children or grandchildren of the 4s be if they were given spartan augmentation.

  • @MaestroRigale

    @MaestroRigale

    4 жыл бұрын

    Draco2525 4.1s would definitely be a good reservoir of recruits. Imagine 4.1s with the training of 3s and the tech of 4s.

  • @michaelkean5969

    @michaelkean5969

    3 жыл бұрын

    if they followed the same formula as the spartan 2 program then they would be hypocrites.

  • @Tigadee00

    @Tigadee00

    3 жыл бұрын

    As long as they don't into insurrectionists first...

  • @theAverageJoe25

    @theAverageJoe25

    2 жыл бұрын

    So you want them to kidnap children and turn them into slave soldiers? Where are you from the Congo?

  • @SwiftGundam
    @SwiftGundam4 жыл бұрын

    These Spartan 1.1 would make for interesting stories. What would happen if they decide to join the UNSC and have Spartan 4 augs done? Possibilities are there.

  • @loverofjesusMKII
    @loverofjesusMKII4 жыл бұрын

    Halsey called it...again

  • @titytitmk2738
    @titytitmk27384 жыл бұрын

    Except the first batch of Spartan 4's seen in Halo 4 were gung ho because they had joined the ranks of the famous spartans and thought themselves invincible. The events of Halo 4 put a hole in that. Which is why in the lore, between Halo 4 and Halo 5, Chief Mendez and his team of specialist trainers as well as a team of surviving Spartan III's were ordered to train and drill the Spartan IV's. In the lore, by the time of Halo 5, the IV's had been fully disciplined and had good practice ingrained in them. According to the lore, what times they arent deployed they spend training (marksmanship, hand to hand/martial arts, etc). And from what we see of the Spartan IV's in Halo 5, they are far more disciplined than the gung ho ones we see in Halo 4.

  • @LegoMinifigs1
    @LegoMinifigs14 жыл бұрын

    Now I'm wondering if these naturally augmented humans can be further artificially augmented to the point of being "better" than any previous Spartan.

  • @lordadmiralhood1843

    @lordadmiralhood1843

    4 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like the start of the spartan Vs, children of the IVs with augmentations

  • @zenoohshit5498

    @zenoohshit5498

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s how the Spartan II’s were made. Augmenting Children of the Ones. Mostly.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer78834 жыл бұрын

    Something that would be interesting is if some parts of Ancient Humanity had survived the Forerunner-Flood war and left the galaxy and became a nomadic civilization that appears to be similar to the Triglavians in Eve Online and they return to the galaxy to retake it and they would see the Forerunner made humans as inferior and a threat to their traditions and culture so they try to purge them. That would be a interesting future story of past civilizations returning to the galaxy as different factions with their own cultures and traditions could have endless possibilities of lore. Turning Halo into something similar to Homeworld in storytelling.

  • @griffin5653

    @griffin5653

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds just like the Human/Covenant War all over again.

  • @thorshammer7883

    @thorshammer7883

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@griffin5653 But in a different way.

  • @self-satisfiedsmirk5544

    @self-satisfiedsmirk5544

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a fanfiction I read a long time ago. I didn't agree with a number of things that the author did; mostly in regards to the Master Chief, the insinuations made about the main protagonist (No, John-117 isn't *the* main protagonist, though he does still have a prevalent role to play), and how the general tone and path of the story seemed to have shifted. The biggest issue I had with this story was that the author seemed to have abandoned this work. So, you can still read this story if you want. m.fanfiction.net/s/9148451/1/The-return-of-the-forgotten-empire

  • @ApollyonZKX

    @ApollyonZKX

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like something out of Battlestar Galactica or Stargate. I really like the idea of another human faction that is culturally distinct from the UNSC

  • @madjoe9679

    @madjoe9679

    4 жыл бұрын

    This idea would greatly conflict with the expanded lore. Both humanity and the the forerunners were cousin species created by the precursors and technological equals before the ancient flood intervention. The novels do however hint to ancient humanity’s “survival” in some form or another.

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian4 жыл бұрын

    Halsey said that the Spartans are the future

  • @thomasgomez6218
    @thomasgomez62184 жыл бұрын

    As I always say, “It’s not the suit that makes the man, it’s the man that makes the suit,”

  • @halolover6893
    @halolover68934 жыл бұрын

    We can still destroy the enemy's core

  • @paladinrense2324
    @paladinrense23244 жыл бұрын

    They will inadvertently create the "Chad overman"

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon4 жыл бұрын

    This thumbnail/title made me giggle. It’s so true.

  • @areo9304
    @areo93044 жыл бұрын

    A video from installation00 early morning? The day can't get any better .

  • @hackattackaj
    @hackattackaj4 жыл бұрын

    This never crossed my mind till now. Awesome video

  • @jacobcantrell82
    @jacobcantrell824 жыл бұрын

    So essentially they would bred a warrior caste like knights or equites?

  • @mitchell1091
    @mitchell10916 ай бұрын

    Halsey herself said at the beginning of Halo 4... "(my Spartans are) the next step in humanity's evolution" I think the IVs having kids is... well... just part of the wider and upcoming lore for Halo. After all, Chief and Blue Team are nearly in their fifties, and most of the IIIs got wiped out. We, realistically, only have a few more in-game decades with Chief before the inevitable comes. People need to accept the IVs for what they are- to quote Halsey once again... the next step.

  • @crimsonquill4255
    @crimsonquill42554 жыл бұрын

    Woah...I never thought about this before. Personally, if this does happen...then Halsey's prediction of her Spartans being the Next Step, and the advancement in Human Evolution as seen by the Librarian, would be proven right...we are in interesting times.

  • @michaelbrand2050
    @michaelbrand20504 жыл бұрын

    That video was incredibly mind numbing with all the genetic speak...at least for me. That being said...I don't think introducing potential evolutionary enhancements that would help the race as a whole to survive would be a bad thing.

  • @Odd1337
    @Odd13374 жыл бұрын

    3:27 you forgot about the Spartan 2 from Halo nightfall who had a daughter.

  • @stevenjones7823

    @stevenjones7823

    4 жыл бұрын

    Games are the main canon. Everything else is a side story except I think it was Halo legends? And like 2 books.

  • @hartianx1698

    @hartianx1698

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenjones7823 I thought that was the Bungie approach to canon whereas 343 tried to tie it all together as much as possible.

  • @spartangoku7610
    @spartangoku76104 жыл бұрын

    So the UNSC could try recruiting the (adult) children of Spartans. If some augmentations can be passed on, then it would likely be easier and safer to bring them up to spartan level, or even beyond Spartan IV level strength.

  • @eric97909
    @eric979094 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this video, basically a genetics lesson based around the Halo universe, absolutely marvelous

  • @RogueArchang3l
    @RogueArchang3l4 жыл бұрын

    “... they are our next step. Our destiny as a species...” I think Halsey knew the UNSC would make something like the S4’s and let it happen. (Edit: I was writing this just before he said it)

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire3 жыл бұрын

    I'd be interested in following the life of John 117's son or daughter, I don't care if it's a clone, donation, or naturally.

  • @dasmoools606
    @dasmoools6064 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Spartan IV's would seem like children to Spartan II's and Spartan III's - they are what Humanity would call 'Spartans' Disciplined. I believe Chief and Noble Six would be there respective example of a perfected Spartan II and Spartan III. Hyper Lethal and as Six's previous CO's stated prior to Noble Squad, he was their literal, personal grim reaper. It's why when I see Locke and his squad taking on Chief and blue team, I can't help but giggle, Spartan IV's v Spartan 2's would be akin to tossing a child against a Lion.

  • @PandemonicHypercube
    @PandemonicHypercube4 жыл бұрын

    Given what Halsey said about Spartan 2's being humanity's destiny as a species, and what the Librarian said about the Spartans being planned via genetic planning by the Forerunners, and given that ancient humans were supposedly closer to Spartans than ordinary people, could this be intentional? Could Spartan genetic augmentations spreading throughout humanity have been intentionally planned by the Librarian, to restore humanity to its pre-deevolution state?

  • @camerongooch9606
    @camerongooch96064 жыл бұрын

    Are any of the spartan 2 candidates spartan 1 offspring by any chance I mean it would make sense as to why they were the highest genetics wise if they were already enhanced a generation before.

  • @ice1032
    @ice10324 жыл бұрын

    What if the covenant starts there own program. Super Elites

  • @edwardslater2252
    @edwardslater22524 жыл бұрын

    You may have have forgotten that Randall 037 had a child, Natalie and was born in 2545 a year before Randall's augmentations was reduced by ONI. I don't think it was ever confirmed Maria had a kid.

  • @TheRockK95
    @TheRockK954 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU! I had the same problems with spartan IVs

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon4 жыл бұрын

    Just having the augmentations won't make spartan 4.1s that much of a threat. You don't understand how important training is.

  • @ragemonkey117

    @ragemonkey117

    4 жыл бұрын

    And if those future kids join the Marines or the Army?

  • @Starlesslemon

    @Starlesslemon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ragemonkey117 how often do you see veterans become terrorists in real life? They still wouldn't have spartan training unless they got selected for the spartan program. In that case there is no difference between them and any other spartan going rogue

  • @ragemonkey117

    @ragemonkey117

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Starlesslemon that's not what I meant.

  • @dreamingflurry2729

    @dreamingflurry2729

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly! A trained 60 year old soldier will probably win against almost all "civilians" (except those who practice martial arts competitively) half his age, despite the fact that he has a slower reaction time and is physically weaker!

  • @hewstopia
    @hewstopia4 жыл бұрын

    Master beef

  • @joshuasullivan16
    @joshuasullivan163 жыл бұрын

    I see this as oni’s recompense for the spartan II child test subjects who died on the operating table and those who survived having their humanity forcibly stripped away in the name of progress

  • @arielfetters5662
    @arielfetters56624 жыл бұрын

    I think Spartans having children and creating a 'better' humanity is part of Hallsey's plan considering she called them "Humanity's Next step, our destination as a species."

  • @Povsa_
    @Povsa_4 жыл бұрын

    They should have never branded it 'Spartan 4s'. I think they'd have more luck refitting ODSTs with mjoilner, after all they are special forces, highly trained, disciplined, *professional* Both in the way they perform in combat and how they conduct themselves outside of it too, and don't crack under pressure. Not to mention the fact they're deserving of the title, they jump from orbit with the possibility of death in every jump. I'd imagine the chance of them having rebel sympathy would be less likely because only the best of the best make it through ODST training.

  • @Oddball-_-

    @Oddball-_-

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uh Mickey? Odst

  • @Povsa_

    @Povsa_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Oddball-_- While there were ODSTs in the S4 branch it was predominately Marines and others, What I was suggesting was *All ODSTs*

  • @seanmcgrath3826

    @seanmcgrath3826

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought most of the Spartan 4 candidates were current of former ODSTs though...

  • @Oddball-_-

    @Oddball-_-

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Povsa_ I meant he was a rebel

  • @Povsa_

    @Povsa_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Oddball-_- Oh, yes. That's why I said reduce the chance not completely mitigate.

  • @emmanuelmorris7653
    @emmanuelmorris76534 жыл бұрын

    Any ideas what happened to the spartan 1.1? Or how strong their children would be?

  • @emmanuelmorris7653

    @emmanuelmorris7653

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@henrykimberley5922 I meant after the war and how strong the 1.1's children would be.

  • @smudge4331
    @smudge43313 жыл бұрын

    I believe the fact that the Spartan IVs debated as easily killable soldiers when Master Chief first encountered them really showed how inferior they were to the other Spartans from any other games. I doubt the vast majority of IVs will ever achieve some the feats we’ve witnessed in the games, comics, novels, and other media.

  • @elopeous3285
    @elopeous32854 жыл бұрын

    you know someone's a true nerd when the man starts rapping the information at Ludicrous speeds

  • @wickedomen
    @wickedomen4 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's want ONI wanted, what better way to fast forward evolution *(cough* FEV *cough*); then with real *super heros*.

  • @ralphforbes5807
    @ralphforbes58074 жыл бұрын

    Lol only Spartan IV I have respect for is Palmer and Buck 😂

  • @gettotheGate

    @gettotheGate

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only ones I even like are augmented Alpha Nine (Buck and his old ODST team), and Olympia Vale, Sangheili linguist. Even then, out of all the named S-IV’s, Buck is the ONLY one worthy of being called a Spartan. The rest, ESPECIALLY Palmer are nothing but ODST’s on Rumble Drugs.

  • @ralphforbes5807

    @ralphforbes5807

    4 жыл бұрын

    I gotta give Palmer one thing, she is Spartan through and through, she won't pull stupid shit like the other 4s that are like majestic, she knows what her being one means, she is more off Will from the book fall of reach, one of the few Spartan-IIs that kept a sense of humor and would make jokes, buck and Palmer will be the only two ever considered a Spartan, because she don't like Halsey but she does hold respect for the Legacy she created, she respects all S-IIs she comes into contact with, one of the reasons she has that standing in my eyes, she respects the true Spartans and has also been called by some one of the few Spartan IV who wear the name properly

  • @michaelkean5969

    @michaelkean5969

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ralphforbes5807 the only reason "fans" hate her is because she talked smack to Master chief even tho it was literally confirmed in a novel that she did that to look "tough" in the presence of a living legend one she grew up on and someone who she sees as a literal hero of Olympus it's stated in the books that she was fangirling like crazy at the sight of him. but like chief she's military disciplined.

  • @OUTSIDER40
    @OUTSIDER404 жыл бұрын

    Good job 👏

  • @ninaa4192
    @ninaa41923 жыл бұрын

    When a Halo lore channel teaches you more about Genetics than your Biology class.

  • @BOOMGUY-ez7gg
    @BOOMGUY-ez7gg4 жыл бұрын

    What if a grunt and elite had offspring

  • @user-tx4cn6vv3u

    @user-tx4cn6vv3u

    4 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't be possible as they're completely different species

  • @BOOMGUY-ez7gg

    @BOOMGUY-ez7gg

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know it was just to be funny

  • @ThunderGun2
    @ThunderGun24 жыл бұрын

    The video stops or keeps buffering at 21 seconds.

  • @agentmaryland1239

    @agentmaryland1239

    4 жыл бұрын

    That might be your internet friend, because it didn't do that to me.

  • @FrostyWheats

    @FrostyWheats

    4 жыл бұрын

    It happens occasionally when you try to watch a video within an hour or two of being uploaded

  • @Steel-101
    @Steel-1012 жыл бұрын

    I do know one thing. The one person that doesn’t care whether a spartan is a one, two, three, or four is John 117. John is a team player. In his mind they’re ALL his brothers and he wants them to survive. When he sees any spartan die it breaks his heart. Just look at his reaction to the dead Spartans in halo infinite. They were 4s and He was heartbroken about their deaths. It was like looking at a father losing a son or a man losing his brother. I personally think that some fans out there are too hard on the Spartan 4s. I’m not gonna judge the entire group based on a few that we’ve seen in some Cut scenes in spartan ops. The ones that we meet in halo infinite were pretty cool and they fought well. Also I’m glad they stopped kidnapping kids. I mean I’m glad we have the master chief but still what Halsey did was messed up.

  • @Ratkill9000
    @Ratkill90004 жыл бұрын

    I think a good portion of S-IV were ODST and other SpecOps soldiers. SpecOps operators tend to be more cocky because they are pretty much the best of the best. You see that a lot in our current militaries. This kind of thing happens in today's world. I guess in 500 years it still exists.

  • @burnttoast26
    @burnttoast264 жыл бұрын

    The 4's should never have been called Spartans. Centurions or something, but not Spartans. They should remain special, since they had everything taken from them to make them what they are. The 4's come off as an insult to that because they never had to sacrifice anything to become 4's. tl;dr: I don't lament the 4s' existence, but they shouldn't have been called Spartans

  • @Minotaur-cd9ch

    @Minotaur-cd9ch

    4 жыл бұрын

    4s should be spartans because its great for their morale and the morale of the regular marines

  • @burnttoast26

    @burnttoast26

    4 жыл бұрын

    Minotaur1501 ! 4s sacrificed nothing. They are not worthy of the name Spartan. It is an insult to those who sacrificed so much to call them such.

  • @Minotaur-cd9ch

    @Minotaur-cd9ch

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@burnttoast26 that's a bit gatekeepy

  • @burnttoast26

    @burnttoast26

    4 жыл бұрын

    Minotaur1501 ! So sacrifice means nothing to you?

  • @AutumnOnFire
    @AutumnOnFire4 жыл бұрын

    "Cannot get intoxicated by alcohol" Sounds like a disadvantage to me...

  • @spartangoku7610

    @spartangoku7610

    4 жыл бұрын

    AutumnOnFire not if you participate in drinking contests for money.

  • @Fallouteffects96
    @Fallouteffects963 жыл бұрын

    Love the video!! However where did you get all the( I assume ) halo infinite cutscenes from? I need to watch them.

  • @stonegiant4
    @stonegiant44 жыл бұрын

    Sensing a large pro unsc bias here. The Innies have some very valid reasons for being disillusioned with military dictatorship ruled hegemony.

  • @dd11111

    @dd11111

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking this myself. Dunno what the Innis are rebelling for (wether it be stamp tax or self governance) but a lot of people seem to see them as little more than bad guys.

  • @TwilightNoirZ26

    @TwilightNoirZ26

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be an Innie all I needed was to know what Halsey was allowed to do on the taxpayers dime.

  • @setojurai
    @setojurai4 жыл бұрын

    Fireteam Majestic does learn and many if them later earn the Title of Spartan. Personal growth via trial by fire. Also Majestic DEMONSTRATED that anyone can become a Spartan but not everyone is born one. Fireteam Crimson was designed to showcase a team of "born Spartans" and why they always beat the "made Sapratns" of Majestic and why Osiris, a Fireteam made of the absolute BEST operators outside of Blue was leagues above even Crimson. And Buck has been wanting children with Dare. Spartan 4.1s are pretty inevtiable.

  • @slumberingember

    @slumberingember

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't view Osiris team as being better then Crimson team.

  • @lzhiwei

    @lzhiwei

    4 жыл бұрын

    DeMarco sacrifices himself in a mission (taken place after Spartan Ops) to ensure the survival of his fireteam. If there's one theme I see consistent with Spartans, it is sacrifice. I find it quite shallow to judge Spartan IVs based on their fireteam banter.

  • @____________838
    @____________8384 жыл бұрын

    Dear god. What if Spartan spermatozoa are “naturally” more likely of penetrating and binding with ovum?

  • @Bluelyre
    @Bluelyre4 жыл бұрын

    I see this ultimately as a good thing in the long run.

  • @christiansalamon4088
    @christiansalamon40884 жыл бұрын

    Came to hear dirt on Spartan IV's, returned for the molecular genetics review

  • @Tottleminerftw
    @Tottleminerftw4 жыл бұрын

    As Halsey Said First we taught them how to be silent Then we taught them how to be Spartans.

  • @SassyLattice8
    @SassyLattice84 жыл бұрын

    Demarco: * Served for years as an ODST, gaining a fair amount of tactical skill and experience. Augmentations made him nearly on par in size with Spartan-II’s in armor. He also possesed a knack for leadership that led him to be assigned to command not just one but two separate Spartan fireteams during his career. Is sometimes brash and cocky (ya know, like a human and especially any soldier would be) but is ultimately a great soldier and even sacrifices himself for the greater good * Halo fans who don’t like sprint: “JuSt AnOtHeR fAkE sPaRtAn!!”

  • @basketcase289
    @basketcase2894 жыл бұрын

    I've been playing a lot of CK2 recently so the only thing I could think of is a UNSC sponsored Spartan breeding program. Jokes aside it would be interesting to have an ODST style game in the future where you play as a marine with Spartan parent(s) and see how that effects everything

  • @Viviana088
    @Viviana0884 жыл бұрын

    2:29 Medical advertisements be like.

  • @markpoint1351
    @markpoint13514 жыл бұрын

    This video wont play for me😡

  • @hitori_9148

    @hitori_9148

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mark Point ya I was looking to see if I was the only one with this problem, apparently I’m not alone

  • @fightingfalcon777

    @fightingfalcon777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hitori _ Yeah, this is I think the second or third of Installation00’s videos I have had this problem with. Idk why

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