Kelvin's Thunderstorm has to be the coolest name for any experiment I've ever seen

@Lukenukkem

2 жыл бұрын

Does rain not aid in the lightning of a thunderstorm? Mhos?

@professorvaudevillain

2 жыл бұрын

Lord Kelvins Thunderstorm sound like a 7th or 8th level D&D spell!

@LiborTinka

2 жыл бұрын

it almost sounds like a comics superhero ability

@DreadX10

2 жыл бұрын

It's more catchy than "William Thomson's Water-dropper with electric effect" for sure.

@miriam7177

2 жыл бұрын

Better than Kevin's Thunderstorm! xD

What does this have to do with the hunger games exactly?

@edstirling

6 жыл бұрын

catniss was from the coal mining district so the energy economy is part of the background for the book. the hunger games promo people are doing stunts with alternative energy because clean coal is a myth. pretty sure that's the logic. to quote c&c music factory, it's about "things that make you go 'hmmm'".

@YbborNetsrek

5 жыл бұрын

Marketing ;)

@amyshaw893

5 жыл бұрын

@@edstirling is jon tickle involved?

@jumilifyify

5 жыл бұрын

corny brain high fructose syrup

@youngcrusade840

4 жыл бұрын

He tells you at the beginning lmao it's called listening

KZread be like 2014: 2015: 2016: 2017: 2018: 2019: Let's recommend this video

@The_13th_Junker

4 жыл бұрын

I, had the exact same

@subhasshmahenthren1264

4 жыл бұрын

same here

@pointlessphantomyt1823

4 жыл бұрын

True

@Martin-xh1hd

4 жыл бұрын

Comments be like: unoriginal People: like

@emanuelpedisic5288

4 жыл бұрын

same also

One might say it’s a trickle charge for the phone

@mediahater

5 жыл бұрын

Damn son

@gusmc2220

4 жыл бұрын

good one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/apmMzJtwo9fId5s.html

@cosmo1494

4 жыл бұрын

This is how Reganomics works

@paulpedersen1329

4 жыл бұрын

Shame on you.

@Circle14

2 жыл бұрын

Better than calling it a tinkle charger. I know I would be P'd off if my invention was called that without me leaking some horribly punny dad joke into it.

I love the very apparent difference when this is filmed from the really expensive cameras with the professionally set lighting. Literally all of the clarity!

This video has so much 'wow' to it. Especially in the internet address...

@user-ql5gt2mu7n

7 жыл бұрын

wow

@akshatsaxena1431

7 жыл бұрын

it is the wow signal!!!

@well3034

6 жыл бұрын

wow

@icarusswitkes986

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKpor8yadsLdn9o.html

@wormball

4 жыл бұрын

so video much wow

I've seen this using four metallic coffee cans (remember them?) with the bottoms cut out instead of coils. The one set of two diagonals were re-labeled as "Kelvin's Cup", and the other two were, of course... "Maxwell's House".

@steveshadforth

2 жыл бұрын

Humour wasted on this smartarse clickbaiter

"So it's often called Lord Kelvin's Waterdropper or Lord Kelvin's Rainstorm." and then proceeds to call the youtube video Kelvin's Thunderstorm

@noelward8047

2 жыл бұрын

Relax.

@mirasolovklose3888

2 жыл бұрын

That's probably 2021 Derek using "click bait" titles as was covered in his video.

@Circle14

2 жыл бұрын

Changing the name of a video can have drastic effects on how the algo spreads it (else how did either of us come across it recently?). I loathe the system, but I understand (most) of what is intended by the way it is set up. I cannot fault whomever at the channel made the title change for being effective at using the algo.

Don't cross the streams.

@mikecorleone6797

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t pee on the transformer

@user-yr7m2

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikecorleone6797 Unless you're an electrician, because it doesn't bite of its own

@mikecorleone6797

4 жыл бұрын

Joona Korhonen you’ve never seen tommy boy?

Stranded on a deserted island with a dead cell phone, some metal coils, a stream, and 6-7 years, I got this!

@samramdebest

9 жыл бұрын

you can simply get a larger water supply and you don't need full charge to make a phone call.

@firekkkatz

2 жыл бұрын

Unless you had a satellite phone it wouldn't do you any good. If there was a cell tower close enough, you could just swim the few km to it or build a raft. You'd be able to see it anyway. Just sayin...

@HansenSWE

2 жыл бұрын

Don't listen to these guys :D You got this!

@decordova.

2 жыл бұрын

Many city people dream they owed their own little island paradise.. Embrace being stranded and live the dream....

I tried to replicate this experiment in my barn for a middle school science fair project. Only produced a barely detectable charge and lost to a girl who showed that different colored dye absorbs into paper towels at a different rate. #christianschool

@KD-yf9yr

4 жыл бұрын

Jacqueline Wubbena dats fked up man，my mind was blown by this experiment .What were the judges thinking ，u created electricity using simply water droplets through coils and metal mesh.ur sch sucks bruh

@seanjtobin

4 жыл бұрын

The big yellow one is the sun!

@thesunexpress

4 жыл бұрын

Was the experiment setup still in the barn when presented? I'm assuming the contents of the barn may have an impact. HOWEVER producing an electric charge from water droplets falling through the air, should, be much more interesting then the different absorption rates of additives/solvents mixed in different colored dyes by some pedestrian sheets of paper.

@ThePrufessa

4 жыл бұрын

No way that beat this experiment!

@KD-yf9yr

4 жыл бұрын

TheSunExpress ikr that s pure bs

If someone wants to know why: The energy that comes from this generator comes from the kinetik energy of the water when it is slowed down by the eletromagnetic fields of the coils. The upper coil attracts the Ions and the lower coil repels them, they slow down and their kinetic energy is converted into electricity. I don't claim to have figured it out. I just looked it up since I wanted to know why this happens.

@K4TORG412

4 жыл бұрын

i thougt so too. because the only energies i can see is potential, kinetic and chemical. and nothing is reacting and i potential is already converted to kinetic so its the last thing standing^^

@rickycarter6371

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the water had a thicker viscosity that it would make the electromagnet work harder to pull and push the water,and if that would cause a higher kenetic energy to create a higher voltage? That could be an entirely different experiment in itself. This is pretty cool stuff!

@m0ntezott

4 жыл бұрын

@@rickycarter6371 I could imagine that the ion exchange speed is depending on the viscosity of the fluid. At some level the Ions won't exchange fast enough to charge the coils.

@onlineanonymity6153

4 жыл бұрын

@@m0ntezott In that case, would a lower viscosity fluid increase the ion exchange speed? Additionally, I would guess that scaling up this set up with more coils would produce a higher voltage but is there a theoretical way to increase the amperage?

@m0ntezott

4 жыл бұрын

@@onlineanonymity6153 I have no clue. I could imagine that the size of the coils is limited, because at some point the charge wouldn't be able to creat a field that is strong enough to have any effect. But maybe I'm wrong and you could just build a giant version of this.

I bet that even the sound energy it's producing is greater than the electrical energy ;) Answer/spoiler to the question: The energy is obviously from the potential energy of the water. So what ever lifted the water above, is the source of energy.

@yousorooo

9 жыл бұрын

What if this apparatus is in an environment with no gravitational acceleration but has an initial velocity, and a non-adhesive tube that bring water back to the "top"?

@AstroTorch

9 жыл бұрын

This is the only answer that hasn't made me facepalm going through the comments..

@RealationGames

9 жыл бұрын

Derek Leung This coverts a bit of the kinectic energy of the droplets into electrical energy. Thus the apparatus would lose its kinetic energy(by passing each droplet) over time and stop.

@Rohishimoto

9 жыл бұрын

Derek Leung I've seen you before... 2spooky4me

@yousorooo

9 жыл бұрын

***** f: Z+ -> String f(n)=nspookyn^2me

The energy comes from the conversion of gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy in the water. This kinetic energy is transferred to the electrons in the tubing, as dictated by the motor effect, similar to how a magnet does. The way that the tubes are aligned creates a similar effect to a magnet being moved in and out of the tubes, and so current is generated.

@DrCrazySymbols

9 жыл бұрын

Yhe streams being polarised is what makes the magnet-like effect.

@Flying_Scorpion

9 жыл бұрын

***** Potential energy into kinetic is where I thought it was coming from too. A good point about magnets going in and out of tubes is that the tubes are lined with coils of wire, similar to the coils of metal in this experiment.

@Supernov4

9 жыл бұрын

Rather about electric potential than gravitational.

@Flying_Scorpion

9 жыл бұрын

oR3Io Isn't electric potential the end result that is derived from the gravitational potential energy?

@ted_b

9 жыл бұрын

But the water isn't slowing down. The coils would have no effect on distilled water, so the energy is therefore being generated from the ions in the water. It is the conversion of the ions' kinetic energy into electrical energy.

"Make me a video response!" Oh, 2014 Derek! If only you knew that KZread was going to kill that functionality!

@Graham_Wideman

2 жыл бұрын

Except it appears that YT discontinued video responses already in 2013. Hmmm.

@agentstona

2 жыл бұрын

@@Graham_Wideman Except we are responding in comments in 2021 almost 2022 soon lol

@DimaZheludko

2 жыл бұрын

@@agentstona New here, heh? That's video responses. Not comment responses.

@agentstona

2 жыл бұрын

@@DimaZheludko hehe he check the join date . here since 2007 .

@DimaZheludko

2 жыл бұрын

@@agentstona so, what was your point then?

The air in the earth is always electrically charged. Passing water and air across the coils. Increases the airflow. Intensifying the grounding effect. The electrical discharge comes from a buildup of static electricity.

@Circle14

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't just the air. Every atom is an electromagnet. Some are just better at it than others.

@Hateline

2 жыл бұрын

This is why it's important to regularly replace the water or coolant in your cars radiator. After being cycled through the engine and cooling system hundreds of thousands of times the static charge becomes stronger and stronger increasing the electrolysis process essentially turning the antifreeze into battery acid which eats away at the inside of hoses, water pump impellers, gaskets, and temp. sensors.

I love how the URL for this vid ends with "wow" :D

@MatthewThrone

7 жыл бұрын

Tim, from Grand Illusions would appreciate this video

I would assume that the energy comes from the movement of the water, which is powered by gravity. Water requires energy to move upwards, so that it can fall down. As to exactly how that kinetic energy is translated into electrical, I don't know.

@kumakuroneko

9 жыл бұрын

Friction, static...?

@danheidel

9 жыл бұрын

The gravity is driving the separation of the charges. If it weren't for the gravity pulling the water down into two separate streams, any charge variations would just attract each other and almost instantly cancel out again. You'd constantly have tiny electrical fluctuations popping up and then going away. However, the gravity pulls the water down and overcomes the attraction of those charges and rips them apart from each other to drive the whole system. Look at how the upper coils attract the water streams due to the opposite charges. Those coils don't contribute much to the overall energy since they are pulling perpendicular to the water flow. However, the bottom screens have the same charge as the water and are directly in line with the direction of flow and will be repelling the falling water. If you were to carefully measure the speed of the falling water, you would find that the bottom screens reduce the falling speed of the water by approximately the same amount as the energy being built up before each spark.

@LamirLakantry

9 жыл бұрын

***** I do know that electricity can be created by magnetic forces only when the magnetic force changes. That happens when (-) charged water falls nearer and then away from a (+) charged coil. There is a change between the magnetic interaction. How this happens though is beyond me.

@LamirLakantry

9 жыл бұрын

Dan Heidel You clearly know more about this them I do. :) Thanks for the explanation.

@danheidel

9 жыл бұрын

EE Ehrenberg I have actually run across Kelvin's waterfall before. However, understanding it has less to do with raw knowledge and more to do with how you approach the problem. Derek loooves complicated looking problems. There's usually a lot of extra stuff that looks like it might possibly drive things but is actually just part of the process. A lot of real engineering problems tend to act like this as well. The key is to step back and not get bogged down with the details of all those coils of wire, etc. Instead, look at the overall process and try to figure out where the energy comes from. It can't be the metal coils or screens - there's no wires or radio waves putting energy into them. Therefore they *can't* be the source of the energy driving the system. instead, we do have a clear driving force, the gravity pulling the water downward. Now that we know that it's gravity driving the system, we can work through it step by step to figure out how that gravitational energy can possibly be converted into the electrical energy that's generating the sparks. The secret is that most physical systems are actually fairly simple if you step back and analyze them piecemeal like that. And since there always has to be some sort of energy input, that is a logical place to start.

The energy comes from the kinetic energy of the water falling. As water falls through the charged rings it is not only deflected by the charge. The droplets are also slowed as the droplets themselves take on or give up electrons in their respective opposite fields. So kinetic energy from the droplets is lost to the processes of slowing and charge separation that becomes a self-reinforcing cycle. My own thoughts, I haven't explained it very well. I would be curious if the polarity of their system always evolves the same way. Ideally it should be random with each fresh start of the system, but in reality it would likely be skewed toward one polarity or the other, because of subtle electric field influences in the environment. It would be cool to keep stats on that and see what modifications to the environment are needed to bring it closer to statistically even.

@solotron7390

2 жыл бұрын

Try installing a diode to eliminate charge toggling and a capacitor for larger sparks.

@Cinncinnatus

2 жыл бұрын

see my post...

@eda___6299

2 жыл бұрын

yup

@ssss-df5qz

2 жыл бұрын

is this anything like when you put a load on a car's alternator, it labours the engine - in principal and in relation to the drops being slowed down.... are they slowing down because they gave up or gained a charge?

@TheSlimyFreak

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly correct, kinetic energy is only assisting the water to the metal, as the water passes the metal, it leaves electrons on one coil and protons on another coil until the charge in each coil builds up to arc.

1:03 "So you can't get that much current flowing and the current is what really does damage" ElectroBOOM: "OBJECTION!"

I am here because of ElectroBOOM, where he dissed (a little bit) Derek about the "current" that kills you.

@michaelkarlinsky1485

5 жыл бұрын

mee too :)

@OxbirdR

5 жыл бұрын

Me toooo 😌

@davidsmoyer1368

5 жыл бұрын

Me too🤣

@Jet-Pack

5 жыл бұрын

Me too! And what a shocking video...

@AntonioPetrelli

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jet-Pack tell me a single video of EB that is not shocking 😉

Kelvin - Thunderstorm

@hendrikw4104

9 жыл бұрын

Drop the math!

@falkkiwiben

9 жыл бұрын

Hendrik Werner drop drop drop the math *dubstep sounds*

The system's electrical circuit is driven by the EMF created when electrically charged water falls from the top basket's voltage, to the bottom basket's voltage. This EMF induces current oppositely directed: up on one side and down on the other side of the apparatus, thereby charging the discharge balls capacitance untill they discharge ionically thru the air, completing the circuit.

@manijulius

2 жыл бұрын

Your explanation makes sense. Thank you!. I couldn't understand Derek's explanation that negative charge in the left shower attracts the positive charge in the other shower. It should neutralize and not result charge buildup.

Positive feedback system, with the energy input from the falling mass of the water. And the water acts as a charge carrier, moving charge, thus current. Now picture this occurring on a vast scale miles wide, and the thing filled with convection columns many feet across replacing the coils... And then you're basically outside during a thunderstorm.

@xuaalbito8303

5 жыл бұрын

right what i was thinking the guy must have got idea from storm humans learn from nature

@xxportalxx.

5 жыл бұрын

Except that the current theory for thunderstorms is ice crystals

@dirkgently120

4 жыл бұрын

Positive feedback. Yes. Mass of falling water -- doesn't play the slightest part. The CHARGE WITHIN the falling water is what makes it work. The amont of mass literally has nothing to do with it. Take another substance that's heavier and with a lower disassociation constant, and it will take substantially more mass to produce the same amount of charge at the electrodes.

@dirkgently120

4 жыл бұрын

Also, as for this being how thunderstorms happen. No.... the "static electricity caused by rising air currents" model of thunderstorms was always shaky at best; It has now been PROVEN that lightning is a result of charge in the UPPER atmosphere (like tens of miles above the cloud tops) caused by cosmic rays.

I asked my girlfriend about this in the same sort of way you ask people on the street about physics questions and we got into a big argument. She said I was trying to make her feel stupid by asking her a question I already knew the answer to - I told her that's the best way for her to learn about physics. I'll keep watching your videos but need to be more careful when I talk about your ideas cause people are sensitive when they are proven wrong.

@oscarmrch5325

9 жыл бұрын

Lol, that' was not very nice! hahah

@OatmealTheCrazy

9 жыл бұрын

Take notice that he never outright tells people "you're wrong" He gives them a question, asks what led them to the answer they gave and then tells/shows them WHY it's wrong.

@JustinBelford

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, he is very tactful in his delivery and certainly always smiling - however doesn't change the fact that people tend to get upset when proven wrong, specially when they've learned something and feel very confident in what they know even if its incorrect.

@JustinBelford

9 жыл бұрын

Enjoying - his theses is supporting what I just posted about learning not necessarily making people smarter but more confident in what they learned, correct or incorrect

@EmiL3TageWach

9 жыл бұрын

Justin Belford While we are on toic, i was hoping he would ackknowledge Thunderfood debunking his vid about the bipolar nature of water not beeing the main cause for the affection of a flowing stream towards a charged object, cause the topics are related... but this vid seems to have had a long preptime and he might have not knowen it yet. Anyhow, the answer is electromagnetism, more precise induction. The randomly charged droplets induce a current inside the apperatus

One point not emphasized in the video is that electrons have to flow through the common water pathway, partially backward against the physical flow of molecules. It's that electron flow that ultimately creates the difference in charge between left and right. Gravitational energy is inefficiently converted to electrochemical energy by induction, until electrons in the 'capacitor' jump the gap.

@shadiester

5 жыл бұрын

I know this is a 4 year old video and you're not likely to even see this comment of mine, but if by some slim chance you do, would you mind elaborating further? I don't understand how the stream becomes charged, which is really bugging me and I can't seem to find a fulfilling answer online. When you say that "electrons have to flow through the common water pathway" what pathway are you referring to and how does that allow the stream to become charged?

@nageenyerramsetty4954

5 жыл бұрын

@@shadiester I think it is kind of like a feedback loop. He started off with the assumption that one stream had slightly negative and other has slightly positive charged water particles. These induce their charges to the mesh. Since one mesh is connected to the other stream's coil, it forces the the water in the other stream to take opposite charge. Because of this feedback system, the coils accumulate more and more charge. These coils are in turn connected to the metallic balls. When their is enough potential difference, there is a charge discharge and the coils become neutral. This repeats. This is my understanding.

@shadiester

5 жыл бұрын

@@nageenyerramsetty4954 I understand most of it but this one part is what I don't get: "Since one mesh is connected to the other stream's coil, it forces the the water in the other stream to take opposite charge." Why does it force the water in the other stream to take the opposite charge?

@nageenyerramsetty4954

5 жыл бұрын

@@shadiester Let us say mesh 1 is negatively charged which makes coil2 also negatively charged. Because the coil 2 is negatively charged it attracts positively charged water particles and also repels the negatively charged water particles. So the negaticely charged water particles are forced to move upstream into the water tank. This happens against the gravity and that is what is mentioned in the original comment. Also what is not shown in ths video is that the two water tanks are connected through a metallic wire. So the negatively charged particles which were repelled by coil 2 flow back up and come through water stream 1 thus making the mesh 1 more negatively charged

@shadiester

5 жыл бұрын

@@nageenyerramsetty4954 Ah okay, that makes a lot more sense now! I didn't realise that the charges were actually moving into the water tank. Thank you for clearing that up!

Cool! It's like a Wimshurst machine but with falling water instead of a rotating disk. The energy comes out of the kinetic energy of the water, it's getting slightly pulled upwards by the coils when they are charged.

One of the best physics channel till now on KZread...thanks for the great content derek.

The electrical energy comes from the fact that water must flow from a high point to lower point. There must be movement in order for the apparatus to function. This gravitational potential energy is ultimately converted into electrical potential, which is the voltage.

I guess, if the water were purified H2O (or "distilled water"), it would not produce any charge, but in normal water, there are always other types of atoms present, which exist in a state of ionization, being partly bonded to the water molecules, like if you put salt into water. If I remember my school chemistry correctly, that becomes Na+ and Cl- molecules which bond to the according side of the water molecules. That can only happen because water is a dipole molecule, it has one end that is positively charged and an other end that is negatively charged. So these ions will cross the charged wire mesh and then lose their charge. Because the water has before flown through the metal rings with the opposite charge of the wire mesh, the effect increases itself.

@veritasium

9 жыл бұрын

distilled water still contains ions because it dissociates into H+ and OH- so even pure water would work in this apparatus.

@Seegalgalguntijak

9 жыл бұрын

Veritasium So the water molecules are not actually H+ on the one side and OH- on the other side, as I were told in school and made to imagine a "triangular" shape of the molecule?

@MrB10N1CLE

9 жыл бұрын

Ions, remember?

@Seegalgalguntijak

9 жыл бұрын

MrB10N1CLE Yeah, but distilled water isn't electrically conductive, or at least it has a way higher resistance than normal water, so there should be less to none ions in it?

@kaedotmoe

9 жыл бұрын

Seegal Galguntijak When people say pure water is not conductive, it is because there are no ionic pollutants. Stuff like table salt (NaCl) would dissolve and conduct electricity. As such, pure water wouldn't function as a wire in that sense. In this case, it is less electricity than it is electrostatics, as far as I can observe, so it functions based on the fact that water is bipolar so it can separate charges.

This is one of the coolest things I've seen in awhile. Its static like lightning. In the atmosphere is all sorts of different elements. In the raindrops also. Friction of air moving also.

Thanks for the recommendation youtube. This video from when "The Hunger Games" was relevant was actually really cool! I would love to see more videos about making similar setups more efficient.

The energy comes from whatever makes the water move. The electrical field of the two upper coils polarizes the water between them, but the positive and the negative part still attract each other and would stay together if it was not pushed apart by force. Under normal circumstances it would be gravity, or potential energy of the water in gravitational field which gets depleted as the water falls down. But the machine could be reproduced also upside down or in microgravity conditions such as on ISS - in that case other source of energy pushing the water through the machine would be the source.

@Sethjxl

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, the energy is coming from the pump in the buckets.

i would assume,that the energy is coming from the potential energy that is stored in the water before it falls. you would need to add energy,to pump the water back up to where it's normally stored...this energy is partially turned into electric current,and the rest into heat.

@TheBlazeThrower

9 жыл бұрын

I apologise if I'm wrong. But the potential energy isn't being used up, so it can't be getting it from there. And this set up could be used in conjunction with a waterfall or something so that the water wouldn't need to be pumped back.

@FractalMachine

9 жыл бұрын

it is being used up. otherwise water-turbines would be producing "free" energy.

@TheBlazeThrower

9 жыл бұрын

FractalMachine Even in this case? Can potential energy be used up without contact?

@FractalMachine

9 жыл бұрын

well it doesn't need physical contact. interacting is enough. and in this case the water does interact with the metal coils.

@christophertstone

9 жыл бұрын

The potential energy "released" by the falling droplet would normally be converted into movement, sound, and heat. This machine simply converts some of that into electricity as well. The water should actually fall slower, just like a magnet slides down a copper tube slowly as eddy currents are generated.

The potential energy of the water falling is converted into electrical charge through induction. Faraday's law.

@zejuushoty

2 жыл бұрын

+

@martin11844

2 жыл бұрын

gravity

@Wtfinc

2 жыл бұрын

no. not induction. I think it's more like a vandagraph generator where charges are scraped off or released into somthing else. idk what that's called but not induction.

@proloycodes

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wtfinc i think thats called static induction, may be wrong tho

Very impressed by the set and camera equipment.

I liked this real Derek version 10 times better than the fake Hollywood version :) The other video was well made, but it was just not you.

@veritasium

9 жыл бұрын

yeah that was kind of the point. I prefer being real as well.

@assadij

9 жыл бұрын

Veritasium Derek, the answer to your spinning disk trick is STABILITY. Friction is only a requirement. Contact me for the explanation. James.

"By a guy named Lord Kelvin" lol That sounded like you have no idea who Lord Kelvin was or what he did xD Thank you this was amazing. I had no idea about this :D

@DreadX10

2 жыл бұрын

William Thomson renamed himself "Lord Kelvin" so being a little cheeky with the name is warranted.

E = IVt So the energy comes from the movement of charge, potential difference and the time the device runs for. So the energy comes from the movement of ions or gravity pulling the water down.

@alonsovm2880

3 жыл бұрын

don't moving charges produce magnetic fields?

1:04 A man with a masters in failure once said: This boils his blood

The energy comes from the flow of electrons in the water through the metal coils, causing induction. The wiring up and cross connecting is a makeshift diode of sorts, as well. Great video.

@thewhitefalcon8539

5 ай бұрын

Sorry but this comment is nonsense

It comes from potentiel energy. Gravity does all the work. The speed of the water is slightly reduced as if it was falling freely.

@pairot01

9 жыл бұрын

that's kinetic energy

@Colourful474

9 жыл бұрын

Joaquin Pirotto Which is converted from potential energy.

@FrostedSapling

9 жыл бұрын

Kinetic energy is not easily converted into electrical energy, and it doesn't look like the water is slower than it otherwise would be

@Sup3rman1c

9 жыл бұрын

Ivan Navarro Kinectic energy is EASILY converted in to electrical energy, the energy it pumps out is so small you wouldnt be able to see the difference in the movement of the water.

@FrostedSapling

9 жыл бұрын

But we use turbines to convert kinetic energy of water, or even steam into electrical energy and those work because of magnets inside of them. This set up doesn't have any of that so I'm not sure how the Kinetic energy could be this easily transformed, but I'm here to learn! Thanks for the reply!

Very cool video! Gravity. The energy comes from the potential energy stored in the water as it falls. There are high pressure ballistic water droplet versions of this as well as microfluidic oil and water dropper versions. Super cool technology that could soon be used for energy harvesting as it boasts a relatively high efficiency.

Seraph from the Matrix just called, he wants his tunic back.....

@robertphillips2983

2 жыл бұрын

Nice....

The energy comes from electrostatic potential of the stream of water. Hence, it cannot be used again

@AbhyudaySharda

9 жыл бұрын

bassisku No, gravitational potential energy is not the source, the ions are....

@Reggiland

9 жыл бұрын

if we did this to all water before we used it in traditional hydroelectric power stations we would make the whole system more efficient though. right?

@offtheball87

9 жыл бұрын

Reggie land For the added cost, being able to charge an extra phone every six and a half years wouldn't be worth it.

@kindpotato

9 жыл бұрын

people keep on saying it comes from the gravity, which was my initial thought. But then I realized the only reason the water really needed to flowing was so that it could get more charges from new water. And so I thought a similar thing. I am pretty sure you are right.

@SSGranor

9 жыл бұрын

The water starts out electrically neutral. There is no significant electrostatic potential in the water until there's charge separation, which is caused by the charge building up on the coils. That, in turn, can't happen without a source of energy, as like charges will tend to repel. The only available sources of energy here are gravitational potential energy and thermal energy. Given that the droplets are moving relatively fast when they hit the mesh, their overall kinetic energy, rather than internal kinetic energy (a.k.a. heat) should matter more. But, the motion comes from the conversion of gravitational potential energy as the drops fall. Thus, the only thing that could reasonably be the energy source here is gravity.

From the potential energy of water stored in that tank.

@Circle14

2 жыл бұрын

The effects demonstrated in this experiment are not directly related to potential/kinetic energy. Those aspects cannot be removed, but this experiment is more about magnets passing through conductive coils. Atoms in and of themselves are electromagnets. Chemistry calls it chemical or molecular bonding but at the root it has all of the same properties of electromagnetism. How you use particular atoms/molecules to affect other atoms/molecules is where the focus (rightly) lays within that field, but the root is still electromagnetism.

Brilliant application of a Lord Kelvin Thunderstorm, that's a great piece of engineering. Well presented, very succinct and practical. Thanks

I’m not sure if you mean where the energy comes from or what it turns into, but basically the gravitational potential energy gets converted into kinetic energy as the rain falls. I’m guessing the rainfall would actually slow down a tiny bit as it passed through, converting some kinetic energy into electrical potential energy

While there's not a lot of charge, this is a brilliant setup. I see potential (no pun intended) in this. Perhaps a large enough setup - or an array of rigs - could be used to drive LEDs as some sort of emergency storm lighting. Or... I don't know. But I'm sure there's greatness that could come from this.

@westonsmith7060

6 жыл бұрын

The only change in the water at the beginning of the experiment and at the end is it's position. this means it is powered by the fall of the water. What i'm saying is that it needs to bring the water back up, so no energy generated. Also, you could also run a wheel under your faucet to generate energy which is much more effective.

@well3034

6 жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong, But I think this is how Waterfall generators work...

Okay so i suppose the question being asked is where does the water get the energy to self ionise? The water is in a liquid state, so water molecules have kinetic energy (even when not dropped from a height) as they 'flow' over each other. This kinetic energy causes collisions to occur which results in self ionisation reactions (collision theory). For the water to become liquid in the first place (and thus have kinetic energy), the room must be at a temperature above 0 degrees Celsius, so therefore i think the electrical energy must have come from the thermal energy in the room, as it is the thermal energy that keeps the water in a liquid state.

@bain5872

9 жыл бұрын

Interesting theory however, what if instead of water drops we replace them with ice crystals? Friction of ice crystals can still strip electrons from each other ie: lighting in snow storms. It would stand to reason that the source of energy is completely kinetic derived from gravity. I commend you on your brain storming.

@hitman9621

9 жыл бұрын

bain5872 Hmm, okay so maybe I was too hasty to ignore the effects of gravity. Okay, I think the point that both of us would i agree on is that the interactions (collisions) between water molecules cause self ionisation, so molecules do have kinetic energy. So now, I think in this scenario (when water is in a liquid state) both the gravitational potential energy and the thermal energy of the room give liquid water molecules the kinetic energy to self ionise. I think in your scenario (where water is in the form of ice) less electrical energy would be generated because the water molecules within the ice crystals cannot interact with each other and ionise. So yes, in your scenario energy is completely derrived from gravity, but with liquid water i feel that you can't ignore that thermal energy gives water molecules kinetic energy thus keeping the water in a liquid state,

@bain5872

9 жыл бұрын

I can agree with the concept however, to what degree thermal energy drives this reaction would be very small I think. I'm almost certain that if one was to use boiling water, one would never be able to extract even a fraction of the energy, from this reaction, than it would have taken to bring the water to it's boiling point before gravity forced ionization. In other words, doing this experiment with boiling water should show no noticeable increase in energy output from when using room temp water. I guess this would be the only way I could think of to prove your theory. I would be most curious as to the out come.

A charge is created by the dipoles within the water droplets. Each droplet has a fluctuating liquid diode preventing the water droplets from flowing upstream. This creates a positive flow in one direction. The mesh interaction creates a wave like function which is emulated in the adjoining coil. Having two separate coils receiving droplet harmonics from opposite streams increases the wave harmonics. The two metal balls resonate this harmonic and enable the wave function to collapse. When the wave function collapse or cancels out they annihilate the harmonics resulting in a micro-discharge. We see this as the little blue/white spark of electricity.

Your new thumbnails and titles do wonders :D I just watched video from 2014

I want to know the answer, not learn from the comments. I hate when you do this.

@veritasium

9 жыл бұрын

"Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire." - William Butler Yeats

@serggie3

9 жыл бұрын

Veritasium Stop being smarter than me dammit

@Falcrist

9 жыл бұрын

Veritasium This kills the students.

@ted_b

9 жыл бұрын

Veritasium Is it the conversion of the kinetic energy of the ions to electrical energy in the coil? Assuming that you would generate no voltage if you used distilled water.

@tzetzo_tzetzov

9 жыл бұрын

serggie3 This method actually orients the charged particles in the metal pipe by using the charged particles of the water. Difference in the amount of negatively charged particles through the pipe causes currency enough to make the spark.*flies away*

The energy comes from the potential and kinetic energy of the water. The rings pull on the water and slow it’s fall

1:00 I think what you meant to say was there's little charge behind it, so it doesn't sustain the current long enough to do damage. Great video though!

as rain "shower" falls the air is rushing around each droplet this is causing a greater volume of air movement - as air rubs each drop it is charging it much like a balloon being rubbed causing our hair to stand up because of a static charge water drops are no different. hence the standing static field -this is why the drops are pulled to or from the rings at the time of discharge.

Thunderfoot gave me the answer by showing me how wrong you were about static charge in water.

@glamdrag

9 жыл бұрын

hahaha thunderfoot > veritasium

@michaelrosche

9 жыл бұрын

he wasn't wrong, watch thunderfoot's video again and really understand it.

@alandouglas2789

9 жыл бұрын

Then answer it

how to turn few hundred watts of pumping power into few milliwatts of high voltage.

@JBinero

5 жыл бұрын

Could be done using natural water flows. Still, better ways of converting the energy exist.

@sendoh7x

5 жыл бұрын

@@JBinero waterfall

@SurgStriker

5 жыл бұрын

but if you ever happen to find yourself in a place with no electricity, and happen to have all the materials to build this, you can use a bucket to transfer the water back up to the top tank by hand, converting chemical energy (from eating food) to mechanical (moving the water yourself) to electical.

@xxportalxx.

5 жыл бұрын

Well said

@jaivardhansingh9414

4 жыл бұрын

@@SurgStriker you could create a dynamo, a lot more power efficient

The energy stems from the potential energy of the dropping water maybe? The gravitational force pulls water droplets effectively moving charged particles, which in turn generates charge separation

Cause and effect, the movement of the water through the air creates changes in the molecular placement of molecules which result in the excitement of various other particles which then get trapped in their usual escape routes.

Instead of 2 streams, suppose you have either 3, 6, or 9 streams. Tesla seemed to like these numbers. With 3, arrange them in a circle. The bottom coil attaches to the top of the next going around. Three balls will be under each lower section coming to an upsidedown apex. The sparks should go in a circle. Instead of a spark, pulse thru a coil to make a temporary magnetic field in rotation. A motor. Attach a giant beater, and spin this in chocolate, like in Charlie and the Chocolate factory.

@CharlieSolis

Жыл бұрын

Sadly the 3,6,9 quote is not a real Tesla quote.

@myiqis1729

8 ай бұрын

​@@CharlieSolisAwe! But I really like those numbers!

Instead of just making a spark, attach it to the Tate Ambient Power Module circuit (bridge-rectifier made from germanium diodes rated for high voltage). The module converts to DC and charges capacitors, thus smoothing the power. If the capacitors are say 1000MFD or higher, this can drive something conventional such as a battery charging circuit for a cell phone (voltage regulated to 5V). But, you have to have constant water flowing, and if you want the water to go in a circle, you need to pump it UP again. I suggest you use the Tesla Water Fountain patent number 1,113,716. The idea is to spin the water at low power, rather than pump it. Create a water vortex, the water level rises and spills over the edge. Now you have falling water that you can separate into two columns.

@daniellapain1576

11 ай бұрын

Big brain time! I think that the better option is to run a spark plug that can handle the voltage. Create a siphon that leads to the spark gap and tune the system to keep up with dripping water. If you hit a water droplet with the 10000v then the water droplet can ignite and explode. That energy splits the molecules so fast that it ignites the hydrogen and burns the oxygen. You could then run a piston chamber with that energy. The only issue is tuning the system to run an engine like this and power a generator. It's an idea that has been stewing in my head for a while. I don't have any resources to pull it off or the money to try it. One day maybe.

That is why all the valves in a refinery are anti-static, unless you want to see sparks jumping from the valve lever to the adjacent valve structure, in the dark, in a place where an explosive atmosphere may be present. Fluid flowing in pipes can build up static, and a ball valve ball, sitting insulated in ptfe seals or similar, with the valve stem equally insulated, can be an outlet to such static buildup, unless the ball and valve stem are electrically continuous through the valve.

if i am not mistaken it works the same way as a thunderstorm does, the water collides with each other creating negative and positive ions, and the pipes is just a way to "screen" what is what

Well, the only obvious energy in the system is gravitational potential energy... probably the water is slowed very slightly.

@davidgumazon

9 жыл бұрын

James Lewis a dick energy

@MessiahNerves

9 жыл бұрын

James Lewis just because a force is pulling on it doesnt nessesairly mean it give it energy

@JamesLewis

9 жыл бұрын

MessiahNerves right, but the water starts with gravitational potential energy, and this is obviously converted into kinetic energy... if the electricity comes from somewhere, this would be the obvious potential source... but if you have another suggestion, please feel free to suggest it.

@MessiahNerves

9 жыл бұрын

James Lewis the same molucules attrack while the ions pull the h30+ ions and the oh- to them aswell im guess this charge diffrence may cause but im not sure if i really wanted to know im sure a google search would give me the awnser but thats to fun.

@JamesLewis

9 жыл бұрын

MessiahNerves RIght, so obviously the positive coil attracts negative ions in the water, and visa-versa... and this creates a positive feedback loop because of the cross connection of the screen and the coils... but since this "sorting" process is essentially decreasing entropy, which can't happen unless there is an external source of energy, the question posed was... where does the energy /come/ from, and as I said, since I this is an electrostatic induction generator, the energy appears to me to come from the gravitational potential energy of the water... by slowing the water droplets a tiny amount.

wow, I wonder how much it costed to build all that to just make this video. I would think that the charge comes from the ions building up on the coils creating a small magnetic field , then when full saturation is reached, a small amount of ions start to ark across the electrodes, when that happens the magnetic field starts to collapse and then pushes the rest of the electrons across.

@danheidel

9 жыл бұрын

Calin Agotici No, it is the gravitational energy that is driving the whole thing. Here's the steps of what happens: 1) Random charge variations cause one loop set to gain a net charge. 2) The induced dipole causes a greater charge separation to start forming. However, without any external driving force, those charges would simple recombine due to electrostatic attraction. That's why putting the structure into stationary water wouldn't work. you'd constantly get tiny charge separations but they would almost instantly self correct and vanish. 3) Gravity pulls the water into two separate streams, preventing the separated charges from simply recombining. This takes energy out of the gravitational fall of the water. This is caused by the repulsion between each charged water stream and the bottom screen of the same charge. You see the same effect on the top coils. They visibly deflect the water in an attractive way but since the attraction is at a right angle to the direction of water flow, it has a minimal energy contribution to the whole system. You can't see the screen/water repulsion as easily but if you were to measure the speed of the falling water, you would find that it is decreased as it passes through the screens. You can never get energy for nothing. The electrostatic interactions cannot drive the system since there is no way for net energy input to occur. The only energy input is from gravity pulling the water down. (or more indirectly, the pump that is circulating the water back up to the top) When analyzing energy systems, you always have to step back away from the details and ask yourself, "Where is the energy driving the system coming from?" Once you figure that out, then you can work your way through the problem.

@ChinnuWoW

9 жыл бұрын

2 videos + the next one

@BookofAeons

9 жыл бұрын

Dan Heidel Electrostatics are symmetrical, so any decrease in kinetic energy on the way toward the mesh due to repulsion would be exactly matched by an increase in kinetic energy after passing through the mesh and heading away.

@danheidel

9 жыл бұрын

BookofAeons You are correct. I was thinking that the relative deceleration and acceleration of the water on the top and bottom of the mesh would impart differing amounts of work on the falling water but that is not the case. The work must be performed when the water initially falls out of the upper reservoir. The separated charges have electrostatic attraction to each other and overcoming that attraction must be where the actual work is being done.

@jazzzzzCat

9 жыл бұрын

This is cool

Friction causes the transfer of electrons as the falling droplets strike against each other (and against moisture in the air). Gain of electrons --> negatively charged water droplet. Loss of electrons --> positively charged water droplet.

That was so cool seeing the water attached to the sides and then returning after the spark.

I read the title as Kevin's Thunderstorm and I just said "Dammit, Kevin"

@kevineina6454

4 жыл бұрын

Patrick sorry 😐 🤷🏼‍♂️

@stekeln

4 жыл бұрын

I too, am sorry for this.

Veritasium, I wish we could test this in NASA's vacuum chamber with less than 50 torr (

@jamesvandamme7786

4 жыл бұрын

I built a similar one of these. There were single drops and they didn't contact any of the rings. It builds up and yields charge like a van de Graaf generator. I had two coffee cans cross-connected to two small rings, all insulated. there was no friction, the droplets slow down as they go into the rings, give up charge due to faraday shield effect and thus turn kinetic energy into charge. Like a thunderstorm.

It is really annoying that he did not put the two balls more apart in order to create a higher charge and make the visuals a lot more interesting.

@clarissevanrossum4

3 жыл бұрын

Chances are that by increasing the spark-gap you're never going to reach enough charge to bridge the gap.

The electronic, mechanical, or manual lifting of the water puts energy into the system that can then be taken partly for electrical energy

Where is the energy coming from? The grid. The grid supplies the power to the water pump, that lifts the water against the force of gravity. ;)

@jamez6398

9 жыл бұрын

Well actually it's coming from coal, oil, gas or whatever.

@TheAgamemnon911

9 жыл бұрын

Well they could have bucketed the water into the tank by hand...

@BaronAnon

9 жыл бұрын

how about setting it up in rain or sth

Elevated water has stored potential energy, which is transformed into kinetic energy as it falls, whereas a less efficient conversion of electromagnetic energy from water molecules is absorbed by the water mesh, creating an initial electric charge, where the accumulation of charge is accelerated by your setup, until enough current is able to jump across the metal orbs, closing the circuit.

H2O by nature is a non-ionic compound meaning that it shares no overall charge despite its polarity. Hence, if this experiment were conducted using pure (distilled) water, I do not think a charge could be produced. The concept of 'hard water' (contains impurities) would suggest that the water falling past these coils contain ionic elements such as metal particles for example. Whilst most of the water travelling through these coils would be in fact, water, a small percentage could contain these ionic compounds or elements, hence the small charge produced. These ionic compounds being of different charges would then be attracted according to the overall charge of each coil producing static electricity until discharged.

I'm loving it. some day we will make a use of this invention.

In the end it has to be gravity right? The whole system is just a positive feedback loop, that relies on the charges on drops along with the need of drops to be small enough for this positive feedback to work (as in bending the stream of drops you want), and so we get to the mechanism that creates these drops, which uses just small holes, where water goes through and there is some force that is overcoming it's surface tension, thus supplying required energy to break it into the drops we need. This force is gravity, so the energy is coming from grav. pot. energy. Yes?

@Lemonickous

9 жыл бұрын

Calin Agotici I checked out your answer, but you're wrong because you're not explaining where this net electrostatic energy is coming from. We all understood that these ions are causing the metallic bobs to get charged and everything, but without gravity doing the work of dividing the water into these droplets, the net charge built up on the sieve would not be substantial to produce this phenomenon (because of zero net charge). The energy used to produce these droplets is the crucial factor.

@12tman12

9 жыл бұрын

Le monickous It's also kind of a mix. The energy comes from the ions in the end (the spark), but you need potential energy of gravity to run what's basically a sorting machine into two containers with different charges (then the spark) but it's using very very little (why the machine is so inefficient). But if you had zero ions, even with gravity the system doesn't work But once you start getting very specific, it comes down to definitions. As in the energy created in hydro dams and turbines doesn't come from the potential energy of water, but the heat of the sun. As it's the heat of the sun that evaporated the water which then turned into rain at higher altitude that filled the dam that has the potential energy to run the turbines.

@Lemonickous

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, viewed from the point of view of the metallic contacts, the source of energy might be the charged droplets transferring this charge to the metal. But the charged droplets existed -because- work was done in pushing them through a mechanism that converted them into drops. Otherwise, if it was kept as a bulk of water, it would not have had an appreciable charge to it. Now, this work, was done by gravity. If you're gonna attribute sun for energy, you might as well do that for 90% of things happening on earth. As to why the mechanism is so inefficient, it's because due to firstly, not all charged droplets have same charge, so literally most of them are wasted by cancelling each other out, that creates the inefficiency.

@brodobroggins

9 жыл бұрын

Le monickous Also ignoring the hydraulic head, which could be used to run a turbine, contributes to the inefficiency of the system if we are concerned about how the water got up there in the first place.

ON A REALLY BIG SCALE this would make something like...Oh...I don't know...LIGHTNING!?

@daryljohnson6333

4 жыл бұрын

Can’t believe more people haven’t gotten the importance of this post!

@ScruffyNZ.

4 жыл бұрын

@@daryljohnson6333 maybe its because there isnt giant coils sitting around too. this isnt how lightning is produced

The energy specifically is generated by the coils. Fluids provide a moving flow, the electrodes are connected which gives a potential difference. The generator electrodes exploit this difference in polarity, getting the water flow to change direction with attraction. The polar molecules are essentially moving charges. When attracted polarized water goes past the solid-state coils as a moving charge. The magnetic field created by the coiling of wire "feels" this moving charge and according to Faraday's Law must generate an electric field inside of a wire when it feels this change. It is an inefficient set up but proves the concept! It could be made more efficient by using carbon nanocoils and heavier flow. It reminds me of Schauberger's idea to use waterthreading to help mhd achieve an onboard power supply system with high weight to power performance. Aerodynamically, speaking (flow-wise) this could also work. Nitrogen tends to go electropositive when ionized and oxygen goes electronegative. However, utilizing plasma for power sounds like fusion or Tony Stark stuff. Someday, high wattage indeed. It can become more feasible to build power supply systems like this for ion wings using air alone and not plasma air with graphene and other 2D nanomaterials that can make better use of fluid flow in other fluid-thread set-ups. As new materials like chlorophene (chlorinated graphene), which can generate a charge from a change in surface tension, get cheaper we can have our devices generate power from fluid flow with more wattage than ever before. This means wind power based on turbulence, not turbines. Imagine a power generator that looks more like a palm tree. Chlorophene also has applications as a synapse bridging prosthetic material in nerve damage repair surgery because of it's impulse response potential and flexibility.

The energy is harvested by creating order and separation out of what would be randomly (somewhat evenly) distributed ions or charges in the environment, mostly in the water I'd think. The energy isn't created, but moved around in the system. Using a passive system with just conductors and nothing else, to magnify biases in charge, is what makes this setup so cool.

Electrostatic potential energy at the expense of gravitational potential energy ?

Would there be anyway to boost this to a point where it could be used as a clean, reliable energy source?

@toasty4000000

9 жыл бұрын

Maybe if you set up these all over the country you live in, you would have enough power for... one household? lol

@mindstormmaster

9 жыл бұрын

It's only renewable if you're using natural waterfalls, and not pumping water like in the experiment.

@SchiferlED

9 жыл бұрын

Nope. It's highly inefficient, and there already exist better ways of taking advantage of falling water.

@-Neo_Genesis-

9 жыл бұрын

Kakunapod I don't mean exactly the same as this... Like using the same principles... I mean the ocean is a pretty big place, I feel like something could be made that would work in a similar way but on a huge scale.

@hendrikw4104

9 жыл бұрын

Probably not. Scaling this to a usable size would waste much more recources than it saved.

The way I understand water, it has a slight tendency to seperate in H+ and OH- ions which are constantly reassociating back into H2O and then disassociating back into H+ and OH- ions. The small percentage of water that is temporarily in these ionic forms are the charge carriers that are attracted to the corresponding oppositely charge coils through which the water is flowing. When enough of the positive and negative ions are attracted near the coils there is a small flow of current in the coils which results in the coils themselves taking on positive or negative charges. When the charges are sufficient to ionize the air between the balls, a spark jumps the gap and the charge is neutralized at which point the process starts over again.

In my final year of mechanical engineering in 2019, there was a topic same as this in subject power plant engineering, named something like electrostatic energy generation. Topic was given just half a page paragraph space with diagram somewhat explained in your video. I was curious with that concept, i will do something about same in near future.

Seems like this might be better used as a clock? I would be curious to know how stable the frequency of the sparks are?

@bassisku

9 жыл бұрын

Not stable at all, since there are tons of variables how the water spreads/distributes

@qhack

9 жыл бұрын

bassisku Well, I wouldn't expect it to be GPS accurate. Hell, I doubt it would even be quartz crystal accurate. But I bet it's still accurate enough to be used in a Rube Goldberg style clock for entertainment value.

I'm just wandering what would it take to make it a viable power source.

@vakusdrake3224

7 жыл бұрын

Running the water through a turbine is always going to be orders of magnitude more efficient for power generation.

@caution8579

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know maybe making it the size of the Pyramid of Giza..... That's right somebody already did that only it was a different more understood Superior model plan, but it has the same concept and don't let me get into the electromagnetic pulse it creates as well

There has to be a catalyst. So either its force in motion as the water velocity falls on the screen or it has to do with conductivity. To add more conductance add some salt to the water.

The only source of energy that is available to the apparatus is the energy used to raise the water above where it is falling from against gravity. The more water the greater the stored energy (released over time in this contraption or repeat the coils in a vertical configuration i.e. series and drop from a greater height)

1:06 ElectroBoom hold my multimeter

Did i made you wiı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸pe your screen?

@notdutra2

9 жыл бұрын

nope this is already overused enough that everyone knows except you of course

@AakashKalaria

9 жыл бұрын

Arthur Dutra Damn it... :(

@GenericMeme42

9 жыл бұрын

You need to put it further to the front. I read the word and then noticed the smudge thus ruining it.

@AakashKalaria

9 жыл бұрын

The Tech Pony you have a point... Can you give me an example, I am new at trolling people on internet. Weirdly I never imagined such talks on Veritasium O.o

@GenericMeme42

9 жыл бұрын

Top kek

Sounds like something I would do but untill you understand the polarities of metals and coils you will never find any real secrets of mine.

The energy is coming from the gravitational potential energy of pumping the water up. And then the kinetic energy the water molecules gain during descent. A moving charge such as that of the slightly charged water droplets creates a magnetic field, this field will in turn induce an EMF voltage in the coil which creates the build up of charge at the terminals. Some of the water droplets kinetic energy is lost in the process.

@Bella_Rei

4 жыл бұрын

see, thats what I thought he was explaining at the start of the video, so at the end when he asked 'where does the electricity come from' i was like "wut? Didnt you just answer that?"

i've got a stupid question: the setup looks symmetrical; but one side becomes negative while the other becomes positive. How does nature decide? Is it one of those deals where a tiny fluctuation in the charge of the droplets at the beggining baloons into a macrospic effect? in this case, would one side be negative once, only to become positive in the next cycle? Or is there a diode somewhere that forces the charge to flow in a certain direction and determines which side is positive?

@rmsvideos1335

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas P yes and then pprobably not

@jayhamilton5653

8 жыл бұрын

I am wondering the same thing. and would the build up of energy increase if the gap was widen where it sparks? at would the energy increase along with the size of the coils and amount of water flowing through them?

@rmsvideos1335

8 жыл бұрын

***** more water would be more charge yes, bigger coils i dont think so. and yes if the gap was larger it would make a bigger charge built up, but he says in the video at some point it would find another place to go.

@middenrat

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas P Just saying Hi :) and yea, random I would think

@thomasp2572

8 жыл бұрын

hey P Thomas... small world huh?

Lightning, as fascinating as it is, just became 10.000v more interesting to me then it had been previously.

The electrical energy comes from a potential difference between the charges of the two streams. Through the engineering rigamarole, you are harnessing a very small eprcentage of that. Cool experiment!

I believe it is picking up a static charge from the friction of falling through the air and the water has a large surface area lilke when you force air through a tube the air traveling over the inside surface of the tube produces a static charge

Charge on the metal Hydronium ion of water And induction responsible for this effect.. I hv seen this experiment at MIT

You even look like a mad scientist. WTG!

The energy comes from the original potential energy of the water, then kinetic, then a tiny little portion is converted on the impact between the water and the mesh, then the electrons on the mesh is removed creating a positive charged material (static energy), which then makes the coil on the other side positively charged, making the water on the other side, polarized, and charged, then hitting the other mesh with negative charges, and so on, and on, and on... so a van de graaff generator

I've been following veritassium since before this video was uploaded. WHY am I getting to see this NOW?