Spamzo vs Assassin Hanzo: Which one is better in Overwatch 2?

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8000+ hours of Hanzo experience, showcasing two matches to compare the benefits of spamming vs aiming.
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  • @Arrge
    @Arrge7 ай бұрын

    KZread algo been punishing me for making the videos "too short" so here is a THICC Long video!

  • @mr.n33dful25

    @mr.n33dful25

    7 ай бұрын

    This really helped clear up my blue balls thanks Arrge

  • @blackgokuxyz7889

    @blackgokuxyz7889

    7 ай бұрын

    THICC LIKE U BOY

  • @galactician

    @galactician

    7 ай бұрын

    Great video. Happy holidays from Seattle!

  • @kja1217

    @kja1217

    7 ай бұрын

    perfect for my edging session, thanks arrge!

  • @reverently

    @reverently

    7 ай бұрын

    15-20 min seems to be the perfect length (plus we all love longer videos ofc)

  • @shayes.x
    @shayes.x7 ай бұрын

    2:34 This small decision also reinforces corner fundamentals. Climbing the left side would require you to either drop back down or retreat across the doorway to cover, whilst climbing the right side allows you to use that corner as cover to both mask your shots and stay safe.

  • @loganbridges204
    @loganbridges2047 ай бұрын

    I personally prefer the more uncut gameplay. Seeing what you do between opportunities for shots is interesting. Thanks Arrge!!

  • @antimah4707
    @antimah47077 ай бұрын

    I wanna map tier list so much Arrge please do this

  • @FlareOW

    @FlareOW

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes I need this 😩

  • @aisthesis_

    @aisthesis_

    6 ай бұрын

    yessss

  • @hig6775
    @hig67757 ай бұрын

    Tier list video would be awesome, go for it!

  • @yaitari
    @yaitari7 ай бұрын

    That Wifeleaver was a goat

  • @JohnDough-mq8uy
    @JohnDough-mq8uy7 ай бұрын

    Great vid Arrge! One of my biggest things i need to improve on as hanzo is positioning and i think a map tier list would be perfect to tell as to when to play like a spamzo or sneak around like an assassin

  • @FlareOW

    @FlareOW

    7 ай бұрын

    Fr

  • @El1as--
    @El1as--7 ай бұрын

    I like these kind of videos more cause its easier to learn from than just highlight clips that are way harder to learn from.

  • @Chumley-yr1jg
    @Chumley-yr1jg7 ай бұрын

    Man this video is great. I’m currently gold 2 DPS. I used to play a ton of OW1 but never comp. Just started playing OW2 again a few months ago and am getting slammed in comp but do fine in quick play. This video is great because you show what you’re doing before, during, and after the plays which helps me a ton. It’s little stuff I wouldn’t have even thought about or known you could do. Great video!

  • @stevenzajac2286
    @stevenzajac22867 ай бұрын

    Cool breakdown of the two playstyles, especially the tidbit about how doing more damage isn't necessarily a good thing as it gives opponents more opportunity to build ult. A map tier-list with the playstyles they lend themselves to sounds great.

  • @WheezyWrld
    @WheezyWrld7 ай бұрын

    Love the longer vids bro please more

  • @_Fragz
    @_Fragz7 ай бұрын

    Arrge thank you always for the educational vids! Wishing you a Merry Christmas from the US

  • @Fuge0910
    @Fuge09105 күн бұрын

    Thank you for disclosing this problem, it always a tug of war on what playstyle is the best and your vids does shows a lot . Always a big fan of Hanzo, and much respect to you to dedicate to Hanzo in both plays and character. Also your laugh at lowercase is adorable haha

  • @bbott137
    @bbott1377 ай бұрын

    Map tier list for spam would be cool but also in general, which maps you like and why, you like certain angles/etc.

  • @ETBCOR
    @ETBCOR7 ай бұрын

    I was very entertained by your over the top edits, but I kinda guessed that they weren't great for retention. Just letting you know that the previous style was not completely lost on your audience, and that the uncut style will be accepted just as well

  • @Deprece
    @Deprece7 ай бұрын

    I never really thought about my playstyle but this explains why I always tend to have a lot less damage on Hanzo compared to other DPS or even Hanzo players in general. My Elims and Final Blows tend to be high though with that low damage. It explains a lot. It also explains why I tend to have way more damage on King’s Row specifically

  • @LuisSRamos-jy5ul
    @LuisSRamos-jy5ul7 ай бұрын

    Arrge, I do not care if you over edit your videos or just make quicker highlights out of matches, as long as you keep doing you style of paying attention to the little things for comedic effects, like you slowing down the music when you choke or the rewinding you did with El Wiwi saving you from Rein, I'll be a happy viewer of the Master Assasin Hanzo.

  • @ETBCOR

    @ETBCOR

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed 💯

  • @m88_overwatch
    @m88_overwatch7 ай бұрын

    Would be nice to compare both styles on the same map. King's row is a very good spam map in general

  • @FlareOW

    @FlareOW

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea that would be a good idea

  • @flimpo8257
    @flimpo82577 ай бұрын

    less edited or more edited im gonna watch them all

  • @StealthBomber422
    @StealthBomber4227 ай бұрын

    I would love to see a map tier list video it will definitely help me in the long run. Also, what is your crosshair I really like it. Im still learning the Sonic trick you did i usually throw them to far lmao.

  • @cloudyplacebo7456
    @cloudyplacebo74567 ай бұрын

    the Rein threw that second game so hard

  • @bonodienoes8993
    @bonodienoes89937 ай бұрын

    Ill definitely live a map tier list vod

  • @aattia322
    @aattia3226 ай бұрын

    LMFAOO those slow-mos when rein is charging you

  • @peterjeavons4003
    @peterjeavons40037 ай бұрын

    Map tier list would be goated!

  • @mayorsergio96
    @mayorsergio967 ай бұрын

    ilyr videos bro, thanks

  • @LittlePotato.
    @LittlePotato.7 ай бұрын

    I understand why you decided you'll edit videos less but btw I really enjoyed them

  • @callumtorrance9180
    @callumtorrance91807 ай бұрын

    10/10 video thoroughly enjoyed all of it. Keep doing that!

  • @Arrge

    @Arrge

    7 ай бұрын

    More to come!

  • @callumtorrance9180

    @callumtorrance9180

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Arrge woo

  • @Dissectionator
    @Dissectionator7 ай бұрын

    If everyone is a paid actor from the second match, then the Lifeweaver needs a raise

  • @dustyDustmop
    @dustyDustmop7 ай бұрын

    What a miserable time to be a rein main in the mauga meta

  • @emilior934

    @emilior934

    7 ай бұрын

    That Rein sucked ass 😂 GM doing silver plays. Pushing alone. Greedy with the shield. Pushing a 1v5. I feel bad for that Ana/Zen. Can't do shit if the tank is greedy with its resources, and still wants to be healed 😂😂😂 Literally no Reason for him to push alone other than trolling.

  • @nateporter2298

    @nateporter2298

    7 ай бұрын

    That rein had to be a purchased account. The lack of game sense was insane

  • @manubiondo5713
    @manubiondo57137 ай бұрын

    I would love a map tier list

  • @Theregulersonicfan
    @Theregulersonicfan7 ай бұрын

    You are so smart I wish I could think like you I just do things with out thinking that’s why I’m stuck in plat 1

  • @simplystimpy7284
    @simplystimpy72847 ай бұрын

    Been trying to explain this to my friends for a while now. I'll just link this now.

  • @zachklimmer4648
    @zachklimmer46487 ай бұрын

    arrge doing old gameplay commentary style videos would go hard

  • @minh9625
    @minh96257 ай бұрын

    i really wanna see arrge match up with vulture on enemy team to see who's better hanzo headshot or junkrat oneshot combo

  • @angelcake7077
    @angelcake70777 ай бұрын

    I’ll miss your crazy silly edits, but to be honest I enjoy your content for you and for your gameplay, so I’m okay with either ^^ especially if the new style is easier on you!

  • @_Fragz
    @_Fragz7 ай бұрын

    Mad respect to the genji not crying like magia after you destroyed him

  • @henrylacock9480
    @henrylacock94807 ай бұрын

    bro, I play as both in one game and just hope for the best

  • @brunomkchave9415
    @brunomkchave94157 ай бұрын

    Please do a map ranking for hanzo

  • @andrey700100
    @andrey7001007 ай бұрын

    Do a tier list pls

  • @Damian_3005
    @Damian_30057 ай бұрын

    i would say i have good aim but some games i dont hit even one shot, but I allways say to myself that there was no one to shot at to get a clean headshot. And now my question should i say to myself that i am not good and i have to train more or what should i do ?

  • @waspsessions
    @waspsessions7 ай бұрын

    I asked you about it one of these days in your stream. Personally i think spamzo brings more value to the team, and its pretty satisfying to see more damage being done with hanzo.

  • @kingmoosh2004

    @kingmoosh2004

    7 ай бұрын

    i agree spamzo is unfortunately stronger but flankzo is so much more fun

  • @loginiman
    @loginiman7 ай бұрын

    11:10 I’m sorry what is that rein thinking? Is he trying to…“block” the ult?! With his shield?!?

  • @loginiman

    @loginiman

    7 ай бұрын

    12:06 yeah he must be bronze for thinking he can 1v3 against 2 supports and a dps. that is already a loosing battle.

  • @justinpark939
    @justinpark9397 ай бұрын

    Which one is better? Which ever is expected to be more effective in progressing/stalling the objective. For eg spamzo is consistent so during the start of a payload cap, where the advantages are offensive sided, the added risk with less added benefit may make assasin style less incentavised. As you progress the objective you may need to run assasin style to generate some more off angling pressure and get key picks when taking space without picks is not as ideal. However since I havent tested this in game (and I not at your skill level/skill set atm) I am not quite sure if you can apply assassin vs spamzo in relation to objective progression with adequate accuracy. And I am plat 2 peak dps so maybe take this with caution. But the take home messgae is: we should aim to compare decisions in relation to objective taking/holding potential and know when to make the most optimal ones to our knowledge, to maximise our chances of winning. (This was edited to add some things, clarify others, and to replace language that assumed that self credentials provoides validity in the quality of the arguement)

  • @knyt0
    @knyt07 ай бұрын

    2:10 kiriko survived because of maugas overdrive giving 30% resistance

  • @CJMattias
    @CJMattias7 ай бұрын

    Ow is dead to me. I still watch you though. And I definitely love the vids that require work... 😂

  • @nickcrawford2456
    @nickcrawford24567 ай бұрын

    Man, I know the Rein in that King's Row game was absolutely punching the air after being denied two pins in a row by a Lifeweaver pull, lol.

  • @mariodiaz2449
    @mariodiaz24497 ай бұрын

    Ive found a lot of success by starting off the round as spamzo then once they think Im going to be doing that all game I switch to more assassin style

  • @danielkassie5650
    @danielkassie56507 ай бұрын

    Nah these are the kind of vids I prefer tbh

  • @TomMorello725
    @TomMorello7257 ай бұрын

    I need this kind of videos for other heroes. Your content is very good, I am not a Hanzo main (even not a fan) but I am playing this character more often :D

  • @FlareOW

    @FlareOW

    7 ай бұрын

    As a Hanzo main that’s acc nice to hear that you have been playing him more just bc of arrge

  • @lotion7004
    @lotion70047 ай бұрын

    could you show the sonic lineup you did on the bridge as like a tut with other lineups like that, if you havent already?

  • @Arrge

    @Arrge

    7 ай бұрын

    its not a lineup, you just eyeball those. its not that difficult after you have done it 5-10 times per match for a week straight

  • @kokopoop77
    @kokopoop777 ай бұрын

    “ i wont be doing crazy edits, so what you see is what you get” me: damn far enough LIIIIKKKKKEEEE

  • @thebrota
    @thebrota6 ай бұрын

    Do you maybe use toggle primary fire or its not worthy?

  • @SamOliver4
    @SamOliver47 ай бұрын

    What music did you use for this video?

  • @blackgokuxyz7889
    @blackgokuxyz78897 ай бұрын

    3:25 boys gimme this song name

  • @JoVee003
    @JoVee0037 ай бұрын

    can u do an ult guide pls?

  • @LeanLife4U
    @LeanLife4U7 ай бұрын

    I love the new Hanzo Voiceline “My enemies fall like…snowflakes.

  • @Htiy
    @Htiy7 ай бұрын

    Personally I am more effective with spamzo. Flankzo helped me out bronze-gold but spamzo is helping me creep to gm

  • @Tyzilla0130
    @Tyzilla01306 ай бұрын

    Biggest takeaway I got from this was that no matter how good you may be at hanzo, whether you’re the top hanzo in the world or paper plate IV, everyone has shit dragons sometimes

  • @dhruvg8472
    @dhruvg84727 ай бұрын

    we will miss those insane short videos.... 😣

  • @lightingphoenix
    @lightingphoenix7 ай бұрын

    how do i get better if I'm under presser

  • @davidmunoz9732
    @davidmunoz97326 ай бұрын

    So it's not good to do more player damage as hanzo pls explain

  • @thekingmeruem
    @thekingmeruem7 ай бұрын

    That rein have to be trolling

  • @me_rinta
    @me_rinta7 ай бұрын

    Rein was def throwing in the second match

  • @scorpiond1199
    @scorpiond11997 ай бұрын

    What is u playlist

  • @LuminoX688
    @LuminoX6887 ай бұрын

    16:59 That would be helpful, so im down for it

  • @juicythedestroyer
    @juicythedestroyer7 ай бұрын

    I have no clue why widows and hanzo work so well. You'd think two long range characters would conflict eachother too much but it somehiw ends up working out.

  • @kamdenwarren7568
    @kamdenwarren75687 ай бұрын

    I have absolutely no idea what accent this is but you sound like bane from that one animated show about Harley Quinn

  • @N-tox
    @N-tox7 ай бұрын

    I lov u arrge

  • @BoliceOccifer
    @BoliceOccifer7 ай бұрын

    11:54 This is why Reinhardt players are clinically depressed

  • @ryannole6138
    @ryannole61387 ай бұрын

    I feel like if a whole team is grouped together spam is better bur of they are spread out playing angles aim is better.

  • @IDKImNotFunny
    @IDKImNotFunny6 ай бұрын

    If your good, you know the map you got a big brain, go assasin, if your a little bit challanged, just work on your aim and do some geometric spams down a crowded areas

  • @janosszilagyi1929
    @janosszilagyi19297 ай бұрын

    Algosuppcomm🎉🎉🎉😂😂❤❤

  • @MaverickJames-rd7nm
    @MaverickJames-rd7nm7 ай бұрын

    top 5 list of counters to genji 5. zarya 4. symetra 3. moira 2. 1 damage (i need healing) 1. lamp post

  • @armando5994

    @armando5994

    7 ай бұрын

    you forgot brig and random junkrat spam

  • @Ba4rden
    @Ba4rden7 ай бұрын

    What's up with the account names in the first match?

  • @n7assault392

    @n7assault392

    7 ай бұрын

    There's a setting that turns all names into like streamer names, it just hides everyone's real user

  • @Juan_Pablo21
    @Juan_Pablo217 ай бұрын

    What level are y’all on hanzo progression im level 48

  • @Arrge

    @Arrge

    7 ай бұрын

    48 too!

  • @talalmansour2139
    @talalmansour21397 ай бұрын

    Hanzo headshots so satisfying

  • @Onqotkarlovo
    @Onqotkarlovo7 ай бұрын

    Why not both?

  • @Trapremix_ow
    @Trapremix_ow7 ай бұрын

    I like spamzo play style I don’t have the patience or the aim for assassin hanzo play style

  • @b0ttomG
    @b0ttomG7 ай бұрын

    Spamzo vs Aimzo

  • @Arniii122
    @Arniii1227 ай бұрын

    hola

  • @aisthesis_
    @aisthesis_6 ай бұрын

    69% extra damage. Nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

  • @NEBUL4
    @NEBUL46 ай бұрын

    no editor nor chat??

  • @Summonick2
    @Summonick27 ай бұрын

    Assassin hanzo lost value as seasons went on in overwatch. Pressure is too common place now, so lapses in pressure is now a much greater inherent risk. The window for hanzo to position and get sneaky picks is smaller than ever, which puts more pressure on hanzo. However, with mauga meta, this might change this season

  • @blub579
    @blub5797 ай бұрын

    Why did everyone in the first game have that weird XX-SOMENAME name pattern?

  • @n7assault392

    @n7assault392

    7 ай бұрын

    It's a thing you can toggle that hides everyone's real user

  • @blub579

    @blub579

    7 ай бұрын

    @@n7assault392 ah I see, thanks!

  • @F0rDz36
    @F0rDz366 ай бұрын

    More this

  • @systemincorrect8024
    @systemincorrect80244 ай бұрын

    Watching this now is so sad. There's no assassin hanzo. Blizzard make him a joke that requires pocket now

  • @GW3NJI
    @GW3NJI7 ай бұрын

    hi papa

  • @TimothyBeane2
    @TimothyBeane27 ай бұрын

    What are the names of his smurfs? Anyone?

  • @n7assault392

    @n7assault392

    7 ай бұрын

    They're pre much all streamer mode names

  • @luchosomango
    @luchosomango7 ай бұрын

    Whats up with the battletags?

  • @n7assault392

    @n7assault392

    7 ай бұрын

    A toggleable setting, hides everyone's real user

  • @luchosomango

    @luchosomango

    7 ай бұрын

    @@n7assault392 thanks !

  • @solacedagony1234
    @solacedagony12347 ай бұрын

    I'm glad you mentioned about the 69% (nice) more damage from spamzo that is causing the healers to get loads of ult charge. People seem to often arbitrarily say "I'm better than you, look at my damage" without understanding what the stats actually indicate.

  • @gusxi3931
    @gusxi39317 ай бұрын

    I was assasin hanzo all the time

  • @henrystickman4349
    @henrystickman43497 ай бұрын

    Here's a comment to help boost the algo

  • @JoelHernandez-ws3hv
    @JoelHernandez-ws3hv7 ай бұрын

    Spamzo or Assanzo

  • @Thermalfusi0n
    @Thermalfusi0n7 ай бұрын

    based mcree gang vs virgin cassidy callers

  • @dreamy106
    @dreamy10620 күн бұрын

    always mccree and not cassidy in my heart lol

  • @rainbowunicornnun
    @rainbowunicornnun7 ай бұрын

    I'm gonna miss the rated C for cringe edits, but totally understandable. I still watch all your videos anyway :D

  • @Arrge

    @Arrge

    7 ай бұрын

    Sadge, me too. always laughing my ass off at 4 AM editing that stuff LMAO

  • @mikejowan3340
    @mikejowan33407 ай бұрын

    Hanzo is a sneakier widowmaker. Even if you miss a shot, often players wont even hear it and you cam go for another

  • @armando5994

    @armando5994

    7 ай бұрын

    hanzo footsteps are also quieter to hear than widow’s loud ass high heels

  • @rafaelruiz2683
    @rafaelruiz26837 ай бұрын

    honestly i prefer the more gameplay less crazy edit videos

  • @roonion1279
    @roonion12797 ай бұрын

    But Arrge how do we know that spamzo truly is bad when YOU are the one using both? Afterall, you are more use to the assassin one at this point so they would be nearly different classes to you now right? The only way to truly know is if you went back in time mastered 8K hours of Spamzo and THEN fought yourself!!!

  • @notknownlogic4161
    @notknownlogic41617 ай бұрын

    i noticed that both playstyles are also junkrat playstyles.

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