Heatshield only works if you are not tumbling when trying to re-enter. it is more important to have control of your craft.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@danielreece8898

Ай бұрын

Thrusters are needed to keep the craft steady ..to keep control ..

@jeremytaylor3532

28 күн бұрын

Starship thrusters were what Dave Dunn and Elon Musk were talking about when Elon stated that the booster was using the bleed gas from the oxygen tanks for thrusters. And Dunn asked what about the Starship capsule. And Elon said well we hadn't thought about it, but now that you mention it, that might be a good idea. Now we have seen from flight 3 that it may not have worked as well as hoped. With possible freezing up of the thruster lines and resulting loss of control. Perhaps they will need to make adjustments or go back to the drawing board. It might be as simple as electric heat trace cables.

@hairyferrit

28 күн бұрын

@@jeremytaylor3532 Using excess fuel was rejected decades ago due to the problems of freezing and blocking vents. Damn so Musk is going to yet again go back on a design which was already known to be a failure to copy existing working methods. There are times to be innovative, but ignoring previous lessons learned just because it will be cheaper is not the correct path.

@danielreece8898

27 күн бұрын

" Exactly ! " to be able to gain control of the ship ..is to like have a " Pilot " on board ..or a computer which will act as a pilot . You can't have the space ship rolling around during re- entry ..thrusters and a very thick heat tiles ..is a key to success ..plus having control ..total control .

Taking in the real possibility of nuclear war, I think people who say Elon should focus his efforts to help reduce carbon emissions here instead of making spaceships to be extremely ignorant. This world needs more Elons and fewer haters.

@tobyw9573

Ай бұрын

Plenty of evidence that CO2 is just plant food.

@tobyw9573

Ай бұрын

please define hater.

I'm thinking the grid fins should be replaced with grid fans and those fans be electrical and that they can charge batteries on the way down and push them against when they need to.

I totally nailed it when in the beginning of Starship development, I suggested fuel sloshing was likely a big problem. It was. I suggested a few times that Shielding was going to be one of the biggest challenges, and so it is. Not only does the problem of losing shield tiles have to be almost non existent, but it has to be quick and simple to do that repair when it does happen. Otherwise say goodbye to the plan of quick reuse of the rockets. I'm not sure if they now have the sloshing of liquid Oxygen and Methane resolved or not.

@jeremytaylor3532

28 күн бұрын

I thought that they might be able to reduce slosh with a collapsible inner lining. A synthetic like the expandable space station segments. Or even just an aluminum foil. Sort of a jiffy pop popcorn container in reverse.

@k.sullivan6303

28 күн бұрын

@@jeremytaylor3532 I know what you mean Jeremy, something like an inflatable and collapsible bladder, that could push against the liquid methane and oxygen.

I think it is sad that progress is often viewed as an attack on those who do not succeed as much. State of humanity I guess.

@user-gl2yf3yc7e

15 күн бұрын

Wish great success 1o SpaceX. ❤😂🎉

❤😂🎉, wish SpaceX great success in reaching orbit and landing back to Starbase. AMEN

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Yeah, let's wait for their next glories☺️

I need heat Shields. I think if they went to a minimal number like one for the nose, 1 for the belly and 1 or 2 for each flap. That would definitely cut down the number of tiles lost.

Great overview of all space activities, thanks!

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

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Nice job GSX! It think that at least part of the reason that Raptor engines production has been "relatively slow" so far is that the Raptor design has been evolving, even during pilot production. I expect that once the Raptor design progress has arrived at a fairly level plateau, production will increase dramatically. 'Doesn't make much sense to build and store too many rocket engines that already have replacements on the horizon. Also during the preliminary Raptor protype production, the fabrication technology being used for them (and later Raptors) was developed and is now the foundation for producing more advanced Raptor designs. I think you're right to be a little skeptical about Blue Origin (even if it acquires ULA) catching up with SpaceX. After all, Blue Origin hasn't yet launched an orbital rocket, let alone landed one. ULA has launched many rockets, but also has no experience with reusable boosters. On the other hand, SpaceX has already mastered reusable orbital boosters (Falcon 9), crewed orbital capsules (dragon), unique fabrication materials (stainless steel) and reliable methane-fueled engines. Spacex has subsequently moved on to more advanced projects like Starship that are built on that experiential foundation. If this were a race, it would seem that Blue Origin/ULA would already be several laps behind before even reaching the starting blocks.

@colonbina1

28 күн бұрын

♥️♥️♥️

@jeremytaylor3532

28 күн бұрын

Relatively may be in the eye of the beholder lol. Apparently they have gone from one engine a week to one engine a day. If they end up with extra engines, I am sure they could sell a few. The Russians did pretty good business pre Ukraine stupidity, of selling rocket engines. Enough to finance much of their space program.

@gisterme2981

28 күн бұрын

@@jeremytaylor3532 I'm sure Mr. Putin, who refused to sell any rockets to Elon before he started SpaceX, would now love to buy Raptor engine technology from SpaceX. How the world turns! :-)

Here is an Idea for heat shield how about a Tongue and groove. On the back of each tile and once they bottom out they lock into place you would probably need to make each joint the same size so they would fit together buy doing this there would be less Maintenance in the long run. Anyway this is just an idea 💡 hopefully SpaceX will run with the idea 💡 to make it work.

@peterfireflylund

Ай бұрын

You actually don’t want them to touch.

@GregoryJByrne

Ай бұрын

Fish scales.

I think that for the 'point to point' work they would use the HLS style starship with the engines near the top. In that case it could land pretty much at any airport, or even on 'dirt' since that is what the HLS style ship is designed for, isn't it?

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

HLS is built for landing on planets and the moon where gravity is substancially less than on earth. They could be made powerful enough for a high gravity earth landing but no one has mentioned that design. They are not likely to be able to lift off back to orbit from the earth. That would require a booster, the main engines, refueling, etc.

@ZigamusRainbowWizard

Ай бұрын

@@appliedfacts This is only required to achieve orbital speed and enter orbit. For point to point transport you only need to achieve a ballistic arc, which would require much less fuel.

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

I just don't see using top mounted thrusters to achieve a ballistic arch either, but I could be wrong. In this case, I would be happy to be wrong

I’m on team space 100%

Sadly having had a company and so having to fire people I understand another, darker, side of this issue. The problem of employees if they aren't let go as quickly as possible resorting to resorting to sabotage and such. Way to many workers today seek vengeance when they are fired.

IDEA'S, number 1) SpaceX needs to make a way for people to communicate with them regarding upgrade ideas. 2) They should double the number of attachments to each tile. 3) SpaceX should make the tiles interlocking with each other so the individual tiles cannot be removed easily without breaking them, and to make it basically impossible for tiles to come loose individually by themselves during flight. 4) SpaceX should develop a "Hub" to attach multiple Rocket-tankers to said hub... so said hub can facilitate rotation of said hub and rocket tankers. This will facilitate simultaneous pumping of the fuel from the bottom of all of the rocket-tankers to the hub then to the rocket that is being fueled up, where said rocket is locked into the center of the hub for refueling. Rotating the hub with an even number of rocket-tanker's attached will allow the fuel in each rocket-tanker to to be forced via centrifugal rotation to the bottom of each tanker so the fuel has no bubbles, and the fuel is at the bottom of each rocket-tanker. This will allow easy refueling where an even number of rocket tankers will always be left at the hub for proper balancing of the refueling-hub-habitat. If SpaceX wishes to increase the amount of fuel at the hub... they can simply attach an additional hub... and an even number of additional rocket-tanks. This is the only way to make a refueling station without hassles and problems. Refueling one rocket to another rocket is a fools way to do it. And really cumbersome, if it can be done at all, it will be a problematic way to do it. Somehow SpaceX needs to make a way for us DYIer engineers in the audience to be able to contact them, to facilitate ideas, drawings etc., to SpaceX. I have so many ideas, but no way to facilitate communication with SpaceX to pass forward said idea's. I have tried to find ways to communicate with SpaceX to facilitate passing of ideas... to no avail. I can be reached at inventorshaven@proton.me if someone at SpaceX is monitoring this message. I would really appreciate being able to communicate with Elon Musk himself, as I have several projects I am working on that would really change things for SpaceX in various ways. And I could use some help in development of said ideas. Though for securities sake I will only discuss my ideas with Musk himself, thus no underlings please. Like Elon said himself... ideas come a mile a minute and are easy... but development of said ideas are hard.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Great suggestion

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

I have read at least one of your other ideas in an other comments section. They seem like good concepts. I, also, think that SpaceX would do well to have some channel to facilitate gathering, filtering and integrating the ideas that are put out here. Good ideas can come from anywhere. Here is my take on your approach to SpaceX. First, Elon Musk and his many companies are innovators. They are used to comming up with new ways to do things. They are fully aware that there is never "the only way" to do anything. If you manage to get their attention don't approach them with that phrase. In their eyes you will sound like a used car salesman or just arrogant and ignorant. Second, Elon Musk is the richest man on the planet with many companies (as you know). What chance do you have that he will personnally respond to a random commentor on some KZread channel? Your flat refusal to talk to any "underling" of his is a guarrenty to be ignored and your very worthy ideas will be as well. Whatever attention you get from SpaceX and whoever gives it to you must be taken seriously. Good luck on getting through to him. I think that you have good concepts. Please keep posting. I will watch for any news of your success. 🤞🏽🤞🏽

@lukekowa

Ай бұрын

the downside with interlocking tiles: they NEED space between them for thermal expansion. now potentially having a REALLY loose interlock (tongue and groove not locking) might help with tile adhesion. In my humble opinion, I don't believe the tiles are the most pressing of the improvements needed right now. The nosecone thrusters need to be looked at for sure, control surfaces need to be reshaped on the Z axis and if we want to go design improvements - I think 3 of the outer rings of starship should gimble.

Ok, let me try another opinion. The issue with re-lighting the engines is the spin prime. During re-entry there is too much wind into the engine bell, it is disrupting the spin prime. Can you install 'Glow Plugs' like in a diesel engine? So that you do not have to rely on 'spin prime' or managing the wind inside the bell as a starting method? As for the rpms of the shafts in the turbos, is it possible to incorporate an electric motor to achieve these rpms?

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your great analysis

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

Yes, it is possible to use an electric motor to spin up the fuel pumps. My understanding of the "spin prime" process is that the fuel pumps have to be spun up to a high rpm so that they can pump (prime) enough fuel to the combustion chamber. That intial spin is accomplished with electric motors. The spin speed is increased by disengaging the electric motors and engaging a fuel burning turbine (thus "turbo-pump"). If wind up the rocket's skirts was the problem during re-entry, maybe the electric motors were not strong enough to spin up the pumps enough to overcome that wind.

The ship seems to be too flimsy to lay on its side on the moon for example, for facilitating onloading and loading of payload/freight. If the ship is that flimsy, then how can it be expected to be sturdy enough to endure the battering and vibration that occurs during reentry, without knocking tiles loose? If the ship is too flimsy to properly land in the relatively mild environment on the moon, then how can it be expected not to flex under the harsh reentry environment?

@yujinhikita5611

Ай бұрын

how the hell would it land or take off if it belly floped on the moon? its not because of structural limitation it cant. you saw ift 1, its strong enough.

@scientificperspective1604

Ай бұрын

@@yujinhikita5611 Nobody said anything about belly flopping on the moon. Open your mind. The ship lands vertically, then uses thrusters to gently lay over onto its side. This eliminates the need for large heavy leg systems that will need to deal with uneven and unknown terrain, and instead uses either the existing fins, or else a pair of small legs at the back plus a single leg at the front. It also eliminates the need for that goofy elevator that they keep showing, and instead allows for offloading using only a ramp on the underside of the ship, as a type of payload door that's larger than the one they've been using so far. SpaceX already indicated that the ship is not sturdy enough to handle laying over on its side, even in the low Moon or Mars gravity. Too bad, because a payload door on the underside of a horizontal ship could handle much larger freight than that goofy elevator can handle.

IDEA: Perhaps SPACE X and the US military should negotiate a deal where they repair and repurpose older Aircraft Carriers to be able to function as landing facilities for Rocket Ships. This way, the landing could happen well away from people and sensitive structures and equipment. Also the Aircraft Carrier could still carry some aircraft and weaponry that could protect Spaceships from hostiles.

@JFJ12

Ай бұрын

Hypersonic missiles LOVE aircraft carriers

@darioampuy

Ай бұрын

Too bulky... You could do the same thing with a tanker for the fuel and a self propelled platform

@ZigamusRainbowWizard

Ай бұрын

I could also be large and bulky enough to be a launch pad, another idea he has been kicking around.

Good thing they can lose some weight on engine shielding on version four because I think they'll probably have to beef up the engine mounts

Heat shield tiles should interlock with each other. An exterior net should be employed to help hold tiles down onto the rocket surface.

@jimcunningham5376

Ай бұрын

Like snakeskin.

@ZigamusRainbowWizard

Ай бұрын

How about if the edges had 'tongue and groove' like wood flooring uses? three sides have the groove and the other three have a ridge.

@clavo3352

Ай бұрын

@@ZigamusRainbowWizard That's amazing! And still they fall out?

I wonder if spacex can test the mechazilla with a simulated drop first- like lowering the booster from a heavy i duty crane ?

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Let's wait for their plans

Is the V3 of Starship too big for the tower to stack ontop of the booster? I mean it's going to stuck out above the current tower isnt it? Or did i see that wrong?

@christophthuring2862

Ай бұрын

During the landig the Starship is not stacked. For the start of the Starship, surplus length is not a problem as far as you can stack the spaceship on top of the booster.

@hairyferrit

Ай бұрын

@@christophthuring2862 Except they lift it to stack by the fins which will on V3 will be above the current towers limits. So now will need new tower for V3

I would be less skeptical if the base were better supported considering the plan to catch boosters , the energy expelled at launch and the height of the tower, it seems an awful lot of stress imposed on such a narrow base. Perhaps it would be more effective to sacrifice fast turn-around and have a dedicated catch tower. The learning curve is steep because NOBODY has done any of this before.

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

Catching on the launch tower (especially the first few times) will be crazy high risk! Personnally I would use a separate catch tower until the process proved itself BUT in his speech Elon said that they would simulate a catch using a "virtual tower" at sea. After that is successful then they would try a catch on the existing lauch tower. He said that may happen on test launch 5 but would depend on success with the virtual tower.

I think one of the problems with the heat shield tiles is that they 'allow' straight seams!, in doing stealth aircraft it is a rule, 'NO straight lines!'. Maybe that applies here?

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

They are using hexagon tiles to avoid this problem

@ZigamusRainbowWizard

Ай бұрын

@@colonbina1 They STILL have straight seams at the juncture of the sections, look for yourself!

A clear coat over the heat shields, sealing the gaps in between the tiles would be a start.

@tobyw9573

25 күн бұрын

A clear coat of what material???? Spray paint?

Space X has a fueling plans for transporting to Luna and Mars. In order to do so, Starship has tondo multiple refueling with Starship Fueling Tankers for the sucessfull completion. Why doesn't Space X have a refueling depot in space, that can hold the need fuel in one or orbiting fueling station. Instead of refueling the ship, refuel the Fueling station. One stop refueling station. As long as there is enough fuel in the station, it would only take one fueling stop.

@madelineremy5128

18 күн бұрын

❤😂🎉 God i bless and guide SpaceX team to achieve success. Amen

A strap could be installed under each tile, with the ends sticking out on the sides of it. The strap could then be grabbed and used to pull on the tile for the purpose of testing how well the tile is attached. This checking would only work for one launch per ship, since the strap would burn off on the first flight.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

The current technic is to use a suction cup to pull on them. It does not seem to be testing well enough, does it?

@scientificperspective1604

Ай бұрын

@@appliedfacts Now that you mention it, I suppose not. When you see tiles falling off before the rocket is even moving you have to wonder how the tiles are expected so endure the stress of reentry.

You really need to amend that engines and tiles are the 2 main systems needed for successful re-entry. You fail to address the root cause of flight 3's failure which was attitude control. The engines can make a perfect de-orbit burn and the tiles stay affixed but if the ship is tumbling like flight 4 it will burn up. Attitude control is done by maneuvering jets and flaps. One or both of these failed to put the ship in an attitude that would allow it to re-enter safely. In short there are not 2 systems needed but 3.

They will need to start building the towers now. When they start trying to catch the boosters, 1 bad accident will close that tower for a year or more trying to fix it. Big business risk.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

They can have about 4 towers at the end of 2025

@WiggyB

Ай бұрын

Remember, they crashed loads of boosters onto the drone ships without sinking one...

@zoranocokoljic8927

Ай бұрын

@@WiggyB No they didn't, not Starship boosters. Those were Falcon 9 first stage.

@zoranocokoljic8927

Ай бұрын

@@colonbina1 Says Musk, who is known for his accurate predictions and strict timetables.

@zoranocokoljic8927

Ай бұрын

If they really wanted to test catching descending booster they could build a tower in a remote location, the fill the booster with minimum fuel for a flight to the altitude of say 5 km and landing and test it. No need to fly to orbit for that.

I tried to ask Elon Musk on X, if he thought about putting a "coating" or temporary shield over the heat tiles at launch, to prevent the tiles from peeling off at launch. Which could burn off at Re-entry. Now if you want a very Fringe theory, for Re-entry, I understand that using a electronic energy field to reduce atmosphere pressure is available with the placement of a Cathode/Anode high tension electrical field is used to deduce atmospheric drag on B2 Bombers.

@rolandblock2530

Ай бұрын

Novel idea, but Musk is against anything unnecessary, so will likely just focus on enhancing the pins that hold on the tiles.

I wonder if Elon will use Falcon 9 boosters attached to the booster to crease lift power?

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

For a while that seemed like a good idea to me but then I realized that they would only add a few percent additional payload to orbit because Superheavey is so much more powerful than they are. Also, additionally, the water deluge system and launch mount would have to be redesigned and built. It seems to me that increasing Raptor thrust and ship hight is a better option.

Kevin, could you make a suggestion to SpaceX that the next re-entry be attempted through the ozone hole in the Antarctic.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

😐😐😐

Spacex hardest problem is the final .001” of space before booster is touching and transferring all weight onto chopsticks!! All shock loading impact must be basically zero spike. But a smooth loading from 0lbs to full weight.at a per second upload rate that wont hurt booster. .

Good luck.

Has anyone mentioned how the logistics for sea launching will work? Fuel and oxidyzer takes days to refill at Starbase, While liquid fuel trucks are parked for at least half a mile waiting to unload. I can't understand how this can work, even at Starbse, at the pace Elon says Starship will be flying. Does anyone know the production capacity of the liquid fuel and oxidyzer in a reasonable distance from Starbase? How many trucks are needed per launch? How long does it take to unload a truck?

@lukekowa

Ай бұрын

You are limited in the amount of LOX you can transport in a single trip on public roads...... Think LNG Carriers, both fuels could be transported in buuuuuuulk. Its easier to fill an empty tank on the side of the road with a fuel truck than walking to the gas station with a water bottle. You could transport 4 Boosters and starships on the same ship. Using the Fuel loaded for each launch as its own ballast, it's pretty easy to negate the potential ocean heating. What will be much harder without a Hibernia-sized platform - [presuming support staff and next flights' cargo/people are on-site at this point to maintain multiple launches and landings per day at this point] is landing at sea.

@rolandblock2530

Ай бұрын

Think lots of robots, not people, staffing the offshore launch pads.

@lukekowa

Ай бұрын

@aregeebee201 I've very well aware that VLS Cells are a pain to load in port to begin with and have only been loaded ship to ship successfully on 1 occasion, but that was in some harbour tied to a pier i think, don't quote me on the details of the test conditions. However reloading a VLS as a single vessel is a matter of vessel size and it being an afterthought hence so many battery additions over the years Regarding a 450ft launch tower and 300ft tall booster being no problem: I never said no problem. I referenced a "Hibernia-sized platform." [Hibernia was built close to my home] and it is almost 600 000 t, 600ft tall with a 350ft boom. So if you take FFP design and give it to spaceX, it won't be as large of an issue as you think. Hibernia takes 90ft waves on a regular bases, I don't see it as an issue at all. But I have been wrong.

@jeffmeyer9587

Ай бұрын

@@lukekowa Thank you, for a great relply😁

@lukekowa

Ай бұрын

Anytime my Friend@@jeffmeyer9587

If the catching doesn't work, they could still go back to feet like the falcons... It was discarded because raptor 1 poewr, but with raptor 4they could sacrifice some tons

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

👍👍👍

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

If catching doesn't work, they will try again until it does work. Remember the goal is reusability within one hour of landing. Landing on feet would scrap that goal completely.

@darioampuy

Ай бұрын

@@appliedfacts they could add feets and test the systems on solid ground aiming for milimiter presition wihtout risking stage 0, until they have mastered the landing... landing on water has the issue of lower accuracy... there is no point of reference that they could use for automated landing (something similar to ISS auto docking) also hurly reusability can still be achieved with starship rotation... instead of the same ship launching hourly, you can have 3 vessels in rotation, one landing, one moveing to the launch pad/refuelling and one launching

How will they fuel the system offshore?

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Great suggestion 👍

@terryfelter5304

Ай бұрын

Simply ships carrying liquid oxygen and liquid methane.

@NeedsLessWedge

Ай бұрын

Whale farts

Elon Musk is one of the greatest minds of our time, however one must keep in mind that he is also insane

@kurtreber9813

Ай бұрын

I agree. Maybe sometimes you have to be?

@alicemiller8031

Ай бұрын

Are you woke?

@GregoryJByrne

Ай бұрын

False messiah Antichrist

Higher thrust doesn't mean higher efficiency. The measure of efficiency for rocket engine is an Isp value. Did the Isp change significantly? I doubt that. SpaceX would need to use rotating detonation engine to make efficiency higher.

@dirgemcelvoy2583

Ай бұрын

I understand your reply, but do you think they are idiots?

@petersvancarek

Ай бұрын

@@dirgemcelvoy2583 No. To get to LEO the high isp is not that necessary unless you want to build SSTO.- Still to go over LEO, you really want to have ISP 450+ which is still achievable with chemical propulsion. That way NASA managed to get to the Moon. They used low efficiency, high thrust engines for first stage, After that they went for lower thrust but higher ISP hydrolox engines. Yeah I know that pesky hydrogen. But that is what allowed program apollo to work. They even planed nuclear thermal engines for later flights, because even the best hydrolox engines are still very inefficient.

@dirgemcelvoy2583

Ай бұрын

@@petersvancarek Thank you Peter

Version 3 is needed to reduce refueling missions.

Look at how snake skin is designed for your heat shield.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Great imagination

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

"snake skin is designed for your heat shield"? Well, what will they think of next?? Just kidding! 🤣🤣

This video is for problem solving gluttons. Thanks !

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment 👍

Why more towers on a 10 year 10 year march. I don't believe him at all.

@GregoryJByrne

Ай бұрын

Why tower catches at all if the narrative of going to the moon & mars would require landing legs. The nouveau nephilim are going to orbit to ride out these the climate change end of days Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for due to the mystery of the 7 star crossings. Not sure if they realize it or not but it takes 1,000 years for the earth's orbits to precess acrosss the magnetic equator of the Sun's fermie cells oort cloud. The cause of this the millennium of climate change end times.

Great you Elon Musk who makes everything possible...

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

🚀🚀🚀

Need pickup minerals of to the specex very important.OK Open AI.

148 🚀 in this year go Space X ❕

Why dis space x decide to make the rocket so tall? Rather than wider? Just saying, if you want to make a moon or starbase, wouldn’t you need more floor space?

@hairyferrit

Ай бұрын

Width increases drag significantly over length

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Great question

@RoySATX

Ай бұрын

There is a line from the movie Running With Scissors; "I need tall ceilings"

@marcusw86

Ай бұрын

@@hairyferritI guess that makes good sense.

Ladies and gentlemen's, I present you, N2

We've seen enough of attempts to get into space. What we now need to see is Elon thrown a couple of boosters up on the tower and flying them out over the surface of the Gulf of Mexico bringing them back fly them around the towers a bit and playing with them Make sure they're going to work right.

👍🚀🚀🚀

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

🚀🚀🚀

First baby! Never seen a video this long from this channel. Wonder how many verbal gaffs I'll count.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

We will update a weekly video every Sunday morning. Let’s follow and support us

"whirlwind" not "world-wind"

They better not put 1062 on a Falcon Heavy. Let her keep going!

No matter how many times or ways I state the same thing, they seem to be too enamored with a broken system to fix it..

Anyone else in a hurry to get to Mars?

The land was given to SpaceX already. Try to keep up

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

🚀🚀🚀

Go Elon 8 by next year

deshira ime ashte sakze hapsire. te jam i iformum

To all the haters, at least he's a billionaire that tries to do good... that's got to be worth something

When the starship enters the atmosphere of earth you should have the computer to gide the ship though the burn stage.

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

That is exactly how it is done. Did you think they might be using a diffent method?

Maybe SpaceX can sell Raptor 1 to companies like Blue Origin or ULA so they can use the profits to further advance developing the Raptor 4, etc. 😬

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@goldenshatter

Ай бұрын

Raptor 1 was very unreliable

SpaceX booster not bad at all for a broomstick. With a kickstand they hold Them up. 😅🤣😂🤭 To the whole world, catch me if you can

Don't you mean shark skin they use the pattern of shark skins and take a look at shark skin under a microscope same as tiles

I guess if they tax space launches, Spacex will have to charge the government more for space launches.

@colonbina1

9 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

If this isnt AI you should be really embarrassed, lol.

The wheels on that Canadian moon lander look like aluminum versions of 19th century steam engine tractors. Apparently the designers brains missed all the mechanical advances since. Even a spoked bicycle wheel has a better weight to strength ratio. Now imagine a lightweight solid synthetic rubber tire with aluminum spokes. The rubber being both the rim and the tire. Actually you can just go buy lightweight non pneumatic bicycle wheels off the shelf. Saving development costs. High efficiency solar cells are also available off the shelf. In fact any team of intelligent university students could build a decent moon lander on a very low budget. Utilizing existing items only, with no huge development costs.

@gisterme2981

28 күн бұрын

I wonder just how much traction aluminun-spoked rubber-rimmed tires would have in deep dust at 1/6 G. Isn't the mass density of rubber close that of aluminum? Hmm. Rubber density is around 920 kg/m^^3. Aluminum density is 1,266 kg/m^^3 . That's about a third heavier than rubber, but stronger and far more capable of surviving high heat, extreme cold, cosmic radiation and absence of atmospheric pressure. All those conditions are found on the lunar surface.

@jeremytaylor3532

28 күн бұрын

@@gisterme2981 Aluminum is pretty darn slippery, so if you are looking for traction it is not really the way to go. I suppose I should have specified that I was referring to synthetic rubber, which is the majority of rubber used today. And there are various types and formulations for it. Synthetic rubber can withstand temperature extremes, radiation, erosive materials and any conditions likely to be experienced on the moon. Oh and the weight to strength ratio I was referring to was for the mechanical properties of the entire wheel assembly not the material aluminum vs rubber. You will note that I thought aluminum spokes would save weight over Stainless steel. Which most bicycles use.

Nose conne should be one piece not many. That way gravity and force will keep it in place and other conections for no gravity.

Using robots to fly to Mars is a brilliant idea Elon..robots have usefulness as do people's.....don't confuse one from the other or your dreams might be stained by others👁️☀️😘💌📡✔️

@GregoryJByrne

Ай бұрын

What came first the mechazilla catching arms or the Starship with no landing legs?

Let me make a quick statement here that may help some people to understand how that engine can handle the extreme heat. Over a campfire, you can reach in and place a PAPERCUP of water on a burning log. The cup will only burn where there is no water, so the top edge gets singed, but until the water boils away the cup will not burn! THIS IS A FACT, NOT AN OPINION, test it yourself, WARNING, do NOT try this with a Styrofoam cup! The point I am making is that it IS possible to do amazing things with cooling. Rocket engines are a masterpiece of this art! Fortunately Elon is more like Picasso or Da Vinci than Salvadore Dali !

new engine BFE

Space 🌌🚀 is a dead god Aether 🌹🌚👍 Rest in the Good News 🌹 Okay bye

I was your 666th like. I am the antichrist.

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

Take a number and get in line. 👿 😈😈 🤣🤣

S😂uch a small video we need 4 hour movie.

@GahMehGrrrr

Ай бұрын

So many disaster movies out there already

all this would not be possible without Elon Musk

Real program is something different ...

❕

@madelineremy5128

Ай бұрын

Great works and success to SpaceX ❤😂🎉

Giving award of best engine to one that does not exist....mmm...

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

☺️☺️☺️

@yujinhikita5611

Ай бұрын

but it does? they ave already tested it, its just not being mass produced yet

@hairyferrit

Ай бұрын

@@yujinhikita5611 So you can link to the test of the Raptor 4, strange nobody else has seen it yet. Do show us the test.

Elon should move to Saudi Arabia

Answer is the hydrochloric acid stomach answer to Open AI /eye color & extracensorial.Jose OMAR.=∆=

Has Elon Musk considered buying ULA for himself?

@yujinhikita5611

Ай бұрын

what would spaceX gain tho?

@ZigamusRainbowWizard

Ай бұрын

yes, they are in talks

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

They are leading space race so I think this is unnecessary

@appliedfacts

Ай бұрын

He did think about it but Blue Origin is finalizing the purchase. They problem is that there was not much benefit to SpaceX to buy ULA. SpaceX tech is radically different. ULA's mentality is mostly opposite, in that SpaceX is revolutionary occupy Mars through reuseablilty and capacity but ULA is old school throw away and business as usual. Even ULA buildings are too short for SpaceX boosters and Starships to be constructed (they have to be built in a vertical orientation). BTW My prediction is that Blue Origin will eventually collapse having had their designs become obsolete before they are even functional. Buying ULA (a company in a similar situation) will only be a cost and not a benefit to Blue Origin. Combining two companies with obsolete tech will not produce a company with innovative tech.

@NeedsLessWedge

Ай бұрын

​@@appliedfacts Elon could go ahead and gobble up the rest of their flight contracts and put them all on falcon 9 or falcon heavy

If you use AI one more time I’m going to block this

If I was Elon Musk I'd let everyone in the world call me Elon unless they work for N.A.S.A. in which case they would have to call me Mr Rocket- That- Works...

What exactly is starship for? Aint going to Mars and a dumb idea for going to the moon.

@kb9gkc

Ай бұрын

Watch and Listen, don't ridicule what you don't understand.

@franciskingu5398

Ай бұрын

A fully reusable mass to orbit... Cheap space technology benefits humanity it many ways . Cheaper more effective medicine . Etc

@JeremyDN

Ай бұрын

Pretty sure people said the same thing about airplanes when they were first attempting them. You smooth brains are always the same. You honestly believe this is a functional end use product and not a rapid prototype program. People love to hate what they themselves could never in their lifetime have a fraction of the money to do.

😂🎉❤

You are gonna have to start paying openAI....cause this is clearly a chatGPT script.......write something yourself!!!

@merkridge8780

Ай бұрын

Aaaaaaaahahahahahahahaahahaaa!!!

@HChandler2010

Ай бұрын

Open ai is free

@jackkerning3478

Ай бұрын

How do you know?

@HChandler2010

Ай бұрын

@@jackkerning3478 I know everything. 🤯

@bentfission

Ай бұрын

He is Open AI!

i want to see a starship launch abort.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Abort🤔

@geofrancis2001

Ай бұрын

@@colonbina1 with hot staging, the starship is now capable of separating from the booster in flight. I assume they are going to use it as an in flight abort system.

00:20 _"The excitement is palpable..."_ Have you even watched the presentation? Which excitement are you talking about? Stop lying to yourself, it's only going to harm you.

👉😡💥👈

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Have a nice day ☺️

Elon Time vs ULA & and blue origin time. Elon Musk tends to be optimistic about time to when a product becomes available and may be 1 or 2 yeagrs late. ULA finaly launched in 2024, the delay is 10 lyears so far. Jeff Bezos blue origin was founded in 2000 it has been 24 years so far no launch. So so why is no one talking about ULA or Blue origin time and? Scientia Habet Non Domus, (Knowledge Has No Home) antiguajohn

gjitha pricesat. e botes. kam mledhe. prangat kam me ti vnu

Old news for click bait says 8 days but even states a month ago

Maybe Elon should buy the island where they filmed Jurassic Park, and fire off his Raptors from there. 🤪 Was it even a real island? How about doing a video about the dinosaurs? A lot more new content could be gleaned from rummaging through dirt and old bones as compared to the rocket industry. Scientists were SHOCKED to find out that dinosaurs had a way to brush their teeth! Godzilla was HUMILIATED by this dinosaur!

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@k.sullivan6303

Ай бұрын

@aregeebee201 Have claw holds on the exterior of the ships and train those flying dinosaurs to latch on and yank that sucker to the edge of space.

Emergency!!! THE ONLY SOTUTION! Baffles will not work to prevent the fuel slushing problem, because the tanks of the starship system are too large. That is the only reason why the starship engines have been exploding every time. The solution: The tanks of Starship and Superheavy need 2 disk valves, expanding the diameter of each tank. One of the disks, the one on top, rotates above the contiguous disk to close the overlaping holes on the surface of the disks; to reduce the Size of the tank by dividing it, before any rotation or acceleration of the rocket. This will prevent slushings and protect the plumbing, if located 10% above the bottom section of each tank. Large telescopic pistons can be attached below the bottom of disk valves to control the fuel pressure as the piston expands into the fuel tank. I have built a model that works perfectly. The second disk valve can be located 10% below the front of the tank, to also protect the front of the tanks from the slushing forces. The gridfins are too flat and too small to be effective enough and will not be able to control the booster. Why is Elon not using four pins instead of three to secure each heat shield tyle? Four anchor points provide far more stability to secure a tyle, not three.What is more important than securing the heat shield? Four anchor points would eliminate the problems of tyles falling off the ship every time there is an engine ignition. Please get this message to Elon. Thank you. Also, Spacex needs 3 actuators to move the payload bay doors correctly, not two. They have only two now, one at each end of the payload bay. They need one at the center position. Three will guarantee that there will always be enough support to open and close the doors, even if one of the three fails. I know the spacex engineers can see these problems. It is like ignoring the elephant in the room. Musk needs to hire people who can be trusted and who will not continue accepting bribes from Jeff Bozo to sabotage Spacex.

@Gweilo.Biden.1

Ай бұрын

or just make the header tanks larger and switch to them immediately after releasing the ship. Problem solved.

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

Great analysis

Keep rocket ngines out of sea water. Corrosion is an issue.

@tobyw9573

25 күн бұрын

Exhaust gas is likely more corrosive than sea water, but that is just something of a guess.

Overly complicated destined to fail

@CombatSport777

Ай бұрын

Actually Elon keeps simplifying compared to NASA, Boeing.... This comment won't age well. The falcon rockets are extremely successful ( the safest, cheapest, most used rockets ever

@alicemiller8031

Ай бұрын

Are you woke?

I told u that u got to do the math and the percentage so that when it goes up low gas highs will be perfect listen percentage mathkeep the rocket balance u done oher perfect we need percetage of the motor and mathe so u can do perfect😅😮😢🎉😂❤yes

Lies

@seekerstan

9 күн бұрын

Don't forget NASA time.

And autopilot is from self driving cars?🤣🤣

"IF what Musk says is true" Of course. Musk is famous for never being overoptimistic and always having precise predictions. You know, like having 2 cargo Starships launched to Mars in 2022 and 4 Starships - 2 cargo and 2 crewed in 2024.

@fgeiger41

Ай бұрын

Welp, the world was basically shut down for a couple of years due to the grand scale scam. Thank goodness he doesn't get rigidly grafted to "plans."

@yujinhikita5611

Ай бұрын

so all the other space companies are also a scam? look at all the delays and cancelations. at least we can see the progress spaceX is doing.

@zoranocokoljic8927

Ай бұрын

@@yujinhikita5611 Other companies don't make overoptimistic promisses they can not keep just to be in the spotlight of internet audience's admiration

@yujinhikita5611

Ай бұрын

@@zoranocokoljic8927 i dont think they give a shit what the internet thinks. elon musk wants to go to mars. he's found the people to make that possible. and no other companies make overopimistic all the time the reason spaces and tesla is famous is because they have shown to make the things they say happen and are actively showing everyone how they work that's why they're trusted to deliver humans and cargo to space.

20 reuses for a Falcon booster. Big deal. Russian plans to get 50 to 100 reuses of their next planned unbuilt virtual hoped for booster. Come on SpaceX, get off your butt!

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

If Russia can launch 100 reused rockets, then SpaceX... (please help me answer this)☺️

@GregoryJByrne

Ай бұрын

The moons precession cycle is 9 years. 9 years northern hemisphere 9 years southern hemisphere & 1/2 year to cross ecliptic of Earth's double torus oort cloud magnetosphere. Which is why the Jews used to have 9 candles in their candelabra. Earth's precession Great year cycle is 26,000 years 6,000 away from the Sun's ecliptic & 6,000 orbits towards the magnetic equator of the sun's fermie cells oort cloud mangetosphere. With a 1,000 years to cross causing these these the birthing pains of this the millennium of climate change end times Jesus warned us to watch & prepare for. The truth shall set you free from the pharaoh/pharisees but the truth is inconvenient & the lies from the father of lies are comfortable.

I wonder if Elon will ever start selling his Raptors to others?

@colonbina1

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂