Space Marine index updates, what does it mean for the Deathwatch?

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In this video, we are going to take a closer look at the long-awaited update to the Deathwatch index, which was finally released on Warhammer Community last week. In the first part, we will go through all the relevant changes - and a few things that did not change. This includes Deathwatch Veterans and the Proteus Kill Teams finally getting their attaching leaders fixed, which means that they now can reference the Sternguard Veteran datasheets for leader options. Aside from the Captain, Lieutenant, Chaplain and Librarian being added back, this now also unlocks the Apothecary, Judiciar and Ancient. Furthermore, Centurion models now take 3 slots when boarding a Corvus Blackstar. In the second part, we will then look into what this potentially means for the Deathwatch, including some recommendations for building a competitive Deathwatch list. Lastly, there will be a quick wrap-up of what has been covered.
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  • @adambusenbark63
    @adambusenbark637 ай бұрын

    I'm quite excited to have so many more character options in our two strongest teams. The apothecary I built at the end of 9th can no longer serve with the indomitor, but they got a shiny new option and and now he can hang out with a proteus squad.

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Same here, this is a great update for the Deathwatch!

  • @RedHood0327
    @RedHood03275 ай бұрын

    As a new player, you've helped me so much; this is THE place to be for Deathwatch info.

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you, that's great to hear!

  • @Grimprospect
    @Grimprospect7 ай бұрын

    Great video update on the faction! Excited to see what we get for our codex later in 2024.

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you, this was a very much needed update to our index!

  • @Grimprospect

    @Grimprospect

    7 ай бұрын

    @SwissHammer oh dang is this all we are getting for now lol?

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Unless some magic happens in the January BDS, that's pretty much it for at least the first half of 2024

  • @wolfboy21
    @wolfboy217 ай бұрын

    I'm looking forward to playing with Proteus killteams and the new leader options. I'm glad that we haven't been forgotten

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Pretty much what the Proteus Kill Team needed at this point to make the price tag worth it once more!

  • @lukelloyd8976
    @lukelloyd89767 ай бұрын

    I think the model tax with the Proteus KT (as you covered very well previously), is still a little prohibitive...but having DWVets is practically auto include now

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Would love to see KT prices in general getting addressed in the next MFM. While the Proteus KT is still unreasonably expensive for the time being, the new leader options kind of subsidize it, if you want to think of it that way. Like, an Apothecary bringing Terminators back is exceptionally good value that you would not get elsewhere.

  • @SafetyBriefer
    @SafetyBriefer7 ай бұрын

    My first born Apothecary will look just fine with my Vets/PKT.

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    An increase to his base, and he'll be like new!

  • @CalAndAly
    @CalAndAly7 ай бұрын

    Yo! I beat the best Aeldari player from Cali cup this past Thursday! You know the Cali cup where all the best players from the world came put on by a top team! And in two turns! 😮I think I figured something out!

  • @ReaverLordTonus

    @ReaverLordTonus

    7 ай бұрын

    Details please

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    You managed to get him drunk? 😉

  • @CalAndAly

    @CalAndAly

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SwissHammer Haha, no, no drinking or anything but sober minds involved. It was at our LGS where our teammates practice for events against each other so we take it fairly seriously. I ran Blackspear and made the list off the cuff at stoplights on the way over once I found out who I was playing against. Had zero time to overthink or really strategize, just put in the essentials I am comfortable with. Priority targets, chilling rain, Crucible of battle, terrain set 3 I took tactical and him behind enemy lines and engage. I got T1, played cagey and used whirlie to Oath kill a Dcannon. Drew cleanse and investigate so baited out combi Lt on center obj. His T1 he yeeted two units of warp spiders in to try and kill half of one of my vets squads and the combi Lt. Got 5 or 6 so I pulled all but my frag cannons and teleported them out. Then my turn 2 dropped the thunder and popped Malleus. Drew no pris and engage. 2 units of inceptors near/on his home. 2 cyclone Termies on obj’s triple charged his Autarch and rolled boxcars on his Autarch on an obj, killed it and he failed phoenix gem so that hampered his CP gen. Killed like 4 or 5 units including his other Dcannon I oathed. He only had one unit of spiders left and I had him pretty well shut out of primary and secondaries. Denied his home obj tying it OC wise, etc. And I still had Tome in my pocket. After my turn another teammate (who’s a best in faction ace) walked up and says, “Can you even come back from this?” And he said, “I think that’s game.” I was like I don’t see it, let’s play out your turn at least and talk through the rest. He killed my redemptor, whirlie, the squad of vets and stole my home w a couple remaining warp spiders and dropped some Spectres in my back line. But in the end, he was not going to be able to score primary or effectively get anymore secondaries after I killed the spectres. So we talked it thru, saw what I would draw/score and rolled a couple key fights to be sure and he conceded. I honestly was sure I’d lose and just wanted to give him a spicy game. I didn’t have time to get in my head and I just played fundamentals, tried to zone him out and deny his scoring. Played cagey then super pounced. I’ll comment the list and what I’m for sure changing about it and considering.

  • @marky2168

    @marky2168

    7 ай бұрын

    spill the beans dude! What did you take?

  • @CalAndAly

    @CalAndAly

    7 ай бұрын

    @@marky2168 1.0 Blackspear off the dome vs logan (2000 Points) Space Marines Deathwatch Black Spear Task Force Strike Force (2000 Points) CHARACTERS Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 Points) • 1x Combi-weapon 1x Paired combat blades Watch Master (155 Points) • Warlord • 1x Vigil spear • Enhancements: The Tome of Ectoclades BATTLELINE Deathwatch Veterans (220 Points) • 1x Watch Sergeant • 1x Astartes shield 1x Xenophase blade • 9x Deathwatch Veteran • 1x Astartes shield 4x Close combat weapon 4x Deathwatch thunder hammer 4x Frag cannon 1x Long Vigil melee weapon Deathwatch Veterans (220 Points) • 1x Watch Sergeant • 1x Astartes shield 1x Xenophase blade • 9x Deathwatch Veteran • 1x Astartes shield 4x Close combat weapon 4x Deathwatch thunder hammer 4x Frag cannon 1x Long Vigil melee weapon OTHER DATASHEETS Deathwatch Terminator Squad (210 Points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder hammer • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Cyclone missile launcher 3x Power fist 1x Storm Shield 3x Storm bolter 1x Thunder hammer Deathwatch Terminator Squad (210 Points) • 1x Deathwatch Terminator Sergeant • 1x Storm Shield 1x Thunder hammer • 4x Deathwatch Terminator • 3x Cyclone missile launcher 3x Power fist 1x Storm Shield 3x Storm bolter 1x Thunder hammer Inceptor Squad (110 Points) • 1x Inceptor Sergeant • 1x Assault bolters 1x Close combat weapon • 2x Inceptor • 2x Assault bolters 2x Close combat weapon Inceptor Squad (110 Points) • 1x Inceptor Sergeant • 1x Assault bolters 1x Close combat weapon • 2x Inceptor • 2x Assault bolters 2x Close combat weapon Infiltrator Squad (100 Points) • 1x Infiltrator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Marksman bolt carbine • 4x Infiltrator • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 1x Helix Gauntlet 4x Marksman bolt carbine Redemptor Dreadnought (200 Points) • 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Macro plasma incinerator 1x Onslaught gatling cannon 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin storm bolter Storm Speeder Thunderstrike (160 Points) • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Stormfury missiles 1x Thunderstrike las-talon 1x Twin Icarus rocket pod Whirlwind (145 Points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter 1x Whirlwind vengeance launcher ALLIED UNITS Callidus Assassin (90 Points) • 1x Neural shredder 1x Phase sword and poison blades Exported with App Version: v1.7.0 (23), Data Version: v304

  • @darklink9922
    @darklink99227 ай бұрын

    Can finally run a full Shooting Veterans team without having to worry about running shields with them now that a Librarian can attach to them and similar with the Proteus Killteam. Might need to pick up a librarian first though.

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    ... or look into a kitbash!

  • @darklink9922

    @darklink9922

    7 ай бұрын

    @SwissHammer Sounds like a good idea I've got a few Marine Bodies around, now just gotta look for a 40mm base

  • @PeterBonnici
    @PeterBonnici6 ай бұрын

    can you link to the GW documents with these videos? would be dope

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    5 ай бұрын

    Sure, they are published and updated on WHC: www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000-downloads/

  • @Damnedlegion40k
    @Damnedlegion40k7 ай бұрын

    Add a comment...

  • @SwissHammer

    @SwissHammer

    7 ай бұрын

    Always welcome!

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