Soviet-Ukrainian War: Ukraine’s Fight for Freedom
The Soviet-Ukrainian War - also known as the Ukrainian War of Independence - will probably be one of the messiest, most-brutal conflicts we’ll ever cover.
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Ukraine has to have been one of the unluckiest countries in Eastern Europe
@globaladdict
2 жыл бұрын
Poland must be stoked to get a break
@micahistory
2 жыл бұрын
@@globaladdict yes
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
Could you even claim it to be a country in any clear sense of the word, even the name is one given to it by others -The Russians. At least I have now learned today where Galicia was
@tsartomato
2 жыл бұрын
not really it's just borderlands that got tired of being a warzone meanwhile great lithuania was denounced to be some tiny place in eastern europe and great polska was torn into pieces many times despite ruling over russia on several occasians also imaging what mongols feel being demoted to a shithole no one remembers? china at least every time it was conquered pretended that it wasn't and it's just a new dynasty and totally not barbarians from the north made the country cease to exist for 10th time because the great wall is a joke
@tsartomato
2 жыл бұрын
@@highpath4776 it was clearly a country in interbellum and since the collapse of the prison of people they successfully took many territories from ex great poland and other neighbours
“Like a stoner gobbling pop tarts” 😂😂😂😂 is Simon speaking on past experiences here 😂😂😂
As a proud Ukrainian-American, I still remember my grandparents and great-grandparents telling me stories from these times. Even then, I remember thinking that they were amazing stories, filled with both terror and improbable survival against all odds. I think it would be amazing if you ever did a similar video on Ukraine’s struggle for independence leading up to and through the WW2 time period. An equally fascinating period in Ukraine’s history.
Whoever did the writing is quite fantastic and epic while being to the point.
Man....Ukraine is a rough zip code to live in.
@Viktor-5.10
Жыл бұрын
Land 404
Great content. In the west we learn a lot about european history. But in most cases it ends around Prussia and the former Austria-Hungarian Borders. Only when the west invaded the east (like Napoleon) it is mentioned. Therefore great in showing our blind-spots
@damiendrepaul2825
2 жыл бұрын
Very true I didn’t learn much about non colonial powers until I took AP Euro history senior year of high school
@kieronparr3403
2 жыл бұрын
You can't learn everything in school
@seanbrazell7095
2 жыл бұрын
That is sadly so. In the US education is broadly and often fundamentally deficient. C-PAC is all the proof needed to see that.
@foxhoundp9949
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed so much! Personally I only ever learned about none American and European wars cause of my own interests to do more research. It legit started in like 3rd grade learning about ww1/2 and I was like "wait.... Why is it called a world war then?" My older brother introduced me to the wonderful world of documentaries!! Subsequently that brought me to Simon and his KZread cartel.
@Ruosteinenknight
2 жыл бұрын
This might be of interest to you. It's a channel documenting all fronts of ww1, but it also documents what happened afterwards the war, also the eastern Europe's chaos. War never really ended until 1920's. kzread.info
FYI, the Hetmanate is a reference to the old Ukrainian Cossack state of the 17th century.
"Like a bunch of frightened emus." What an excellent choice of words lol
Good video, two notes though: - The Polish-Ukrainian War started in November 1918 not with Polish Army attacking the Western Ukrainian National Republic, but with the militias of local Poles in Lviv/Lwów (Lemberg, Leopolis, whatever) and other majority or largely Polish at that time cities of the region rising against WUNR, with regular Polish forces joining in later. - The thing to realize about Piłsudski is that while being the provisional head of state and the commander in chief, he wasn't a dictator at this point. Most other Polish politicians didn't share his vision of a Federation with Ukraine, Belarus and other states (especially the influential National Democrats, which were dominant in Polish diplomatic service). Piłsudski was not at all happy with the Peace Treaty of Riga. On the 15th of May 1921 he personally visited Ukrainian soldiers temporary held in an internment camp in Kalisz, saying to them: "I'm sorry gentlemen, I'm terribly sorry, it wasn't supposed to be like this (Ja was przepraszam Panowie, ja was bardzo przepraszam, tak nie miało być)."
Do the Polish-Soviet War next! The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had been partitioned between the Prussians, Russians and Austrians in 1795. After 123 years of living without their own nation, the Poles went about reuniting a nation after the occupying powers had all lost WWI. The Bolsheviks of the Soviet Union attacked to reassert their dominance, with the hope of spreading Communism all the way to Germany. The war concluded in 1921 with the Miracle on the Vistula. Five Soviet armies were closing in on Warsaw. Despite being massively outnumbered, the Poles counter attacked. Surprised and with poor communications, confusion broke out through the Soviet forces, and the Poles tumbled them to ruin.
@everydayhero5076
2 жыл бұрын
Awww man, you just spoiled it. :( J/K.
@kingjellybean9795
2 жыл бұрын
How many polaks does it take to save their country? Not that many lol
@andreylyubavin1211
2 жыл бұрын
Parafascist Pilsudsky invaded the RSFSR first, in 1919.
@aleksanderwielopolski8205
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, a much cooler video would be about the recreation of Poland in general, because just like with Ukraine, a lot of events had been happening simultaneously...
@aleksanderwielopolski8205
2 жыл бұрын
@@andreylyubavin1211 ... like the fact that even before Poland's official forces went eastward, there had already been in the east the paramilitary units of local Poles with whom the marching Soviets clashed. Poland simply sent them help.
How does the old slang go “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Winston Churchill
@thomasfredrickson6298
2 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill wasn’t the one that said that quote, it was George Santayana who said this quote: “Those who cannot remember the Past are condemned to repeat it.”
@scooby45247
2 жыл бұрын
And those that do learn from history are doomed to watch others repeat..
@isaaclux2128
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was Ronald McDonald.
@Pretermit_Sound
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve come to think that quote is BS the older I get. It seems some people just use the awful parts of history as inspiration more than anything else 😣
@itsblitz4437
2 жыл бұрын
Clearly Putin did not learn.
Just when I think I'm subscribed to all your channels I find a couple more. Just found this and deciding the unknown today. Simon thank you for all the hours you must spend each day recording all these videos, and thank you to your team for the endless research they do.
Love this show! Only wish is you would do longer episodes on this channel. Be well!
Gonna request the Philippine-American War. One of the lesser talked about US conflicts. A stepping stone in American Imperialism and continuation of the Spanish American War.
@leeroyloke8415
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This war plus the American-Indian Wars often get white-washed or buried by US mainstream media and schools.
@NoName-de1fn
2 жыл бұрын
I second this
@michelangelo4483
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, we gotta put Filipinos in their place, they are so proud of their country despite doing nothing of value throughout history and getting owned in nearly every fight
@theawesomeman9821
2 жыл бұрын
The whole war only composed of three main battles over a three year period, the rest is mostly guerilla warfare, don't know how long of a video it could be.
@michelangelo4483
2 жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 exactly, absolutely no history
1:20 - Chapter 1 - A divided land 5:45 - Chapter 2 - Birth of a dream 10:00 - Chapter 3 - Baptism of fire 14:00 - Chapter 4 - Age of chaos 17:20 - Chapter 5 - Bloodlands 21:10 - Chapter 6 - Death of a dream
If anyone is wondering, the Maknovchina also known as the Free territories (The area "governed" by the Anarchists of the Black Army/Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine) was surrounded and crushed in 1921 by an overwhelming force Red army soldiers. Since the vid kinda made out the Blacks and Reds were working together and it wasn't merely an incredibly uneasy alliance. The likes of Nestor Makhno, Ida Mett and Peter Arshinov fled to France, later writing a pamphlet called "The Organisational Platform of the Libertarian Communists" and creating a new strategy for Anarchist Communists known as Platformism.
@channel_abc123_
8 ай бұрын
Makhnos army collaborated with the Bolshevik during the invasion of the UPR
Did not expect to hear a JoJo reference from Simon tbh
@joshuaroux6784
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@mechanicore1148
2 жыл бұрын
His writers have been sneaking them in here and there through his channels and they are all legends.
Needed this
russia just never leaves us alone. They can’t live with us being an independent democratic nation
@zealmediaproductions844
9 ай бұрын
Why not leave the eastern Ukrainians alone
@DegnaDings
7 ай бұрын
@@zealmediaproductions844Why not leave all of Ukraine alone? Can Russia just not be assholes for once since their existence?
@zealmediaproductions844
7 ай бұрын
@@DegnaDings think about it carefully eastern ukrainians we are ethnic russians why should we be part of ukraine, just think slowly about it and dont take weed it would give you clarity too
@DegnaDings
7 ай бұрын
@@zealmediaproductions844 oh REAAALLLYY? You wanna get technical with it? You wanna use historical claims? How about giving St. Petersburg back to Ukraine then? Bc it was part of the Kievan Rus loooonnng before Russia. And how abt give Corsica back to Italy? And crimea? Bc they both belonged to Rome LOOOOONNNGG before they did France or Russia. You see my point here? Russian historical claims are bullshit, and they have no diplomatic power. Don’t believe me? Try seeing how Iraq’s historical claim to Kuwait went.
@Motofanable
17 күн бұрын
@@zealmediaproductions844 they are not, eastern ukrainians are for example azov
Really interesting content❤️ Thank you
I love the fact that dragging NFTs has become a regular part of Simon’s channels.
Nestor Makhno was one of the MVP's in this conflict. With a peasant army he managed to score surprising victories against the whites and reds
@alekshukhevych2644
7 ай бұрын
He is no MVP. He made a deal with the red devil ans got burnt.
Thank you simon for teaching us history that the world seems to forget or hide.
God do I love Nestor Makhno. Ruled as a poor man. Died as a poor man. Lol
@instrumental94
Жыл бұрын
He is commonly referred as father makhno and his flag still flies on battlefields today
@superbananas7792
Жыл бұрын
Not ruled comrade, not ruled.......that was the peasants and the workers
as a stoner eating poptarts... i approve of this message
Love your channels!
@sandybarnes887
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Good thing he has 12 others
...like a stoner gobbling up Pop-Tarts 😆 Simon's hilarious metaphors, non sequiturs and dark humor makes these somber topics very entertaining.
@jameskneff8212
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that it and the one about Pringles and nationalism 😂
2:44 can we get a Blaze merch item that's like a Teddybear named Vodka? He could get a backstory written by Danny
Seriously, Simon, you been wearing dat red jumper for about 2-3 weeks now, mate. It's not bad, but....dude, there's 2 bits of fluff I just HAVE TO PICK OFF AND CAN'T, lol. Driving me crazy
I sympathize with the Ukrainians. My country also suffered a similar tragic fate. My countrymen rose up against the Spanish colonial authorities to achieve independence in 1896. Independence was declared on June 12, 1898 and the Spaniards were defeated in battle. A Republic was proclaimed, the first ever in Southeast Asia. But this independence was short-lived. We were betrayed by our erstwhile "allies", the Americans. Our leaders were too naive to trust these foreigners, not knowing that they will stab us in the back. A war broke out, this time, longer and a hell bloodier than the one we fought against the Spanish. A million Filipinos died in the Philippine-American War. Our nation would be under foreign subjugation for half a century. The Ukrainians suffered more than us. They've waited far longer, around 70 years to secure independence from the Soviet Union
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
Dunno, somewhat in Ukraine there was an element that all the peasants were treated equally ( as in much the same way as Russian peasants were , head down, toe the line and hope for enough bread for today and tomorrow ). A number of key Ukrainian places and people managed to define the high points of the Soviet Union argueably more than the historic central Russian areas.
@madibacitizen2430
2 жыл бұрын
The Moros didn’t deserve it, but you Filipinos deserve it for supporting Spaniard supremacists
@fungunsun1
2 жыл бұрын
High path clearly have not heard of holodomor
@stvk99
Жыл бұрын
fingers crossed Ukraine will be backstabbed too
well ive gone down a Simon channel binge I think I have like twenty of tour vids on y watchlist. Love all you're channels, could you please do a vid on the battle of Stalingrad he bloodiest battle in recorded histoey and the 1920's Polish and Russian war where Poland somehow beat Trotski.
I'm all the places I didn't expect a JoJos reference, this is one of them
Well, only 1 error: Skoropadsky wasn't a marionette, he is a result of ukrainian conservative counter-revolutionary movement against a Socialist Central Rada. His Maestatis Hetman Pavlo Petrovic was elected by old tradition of first Hetmanate to recreate a lost country of Ukrainian Cossacks.
visual politics isnt the same w/o u anymore mate but glad to see u got a channel of ur own! took me some time to find it but u got a new subscriber!
@DarkWolfseternalfire
2 жыл бұрын
Have you found the other 14 yet?
@SeArCh4DrEaMz
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkWolfseternalfire nope lol
@DarkWolfseternalfire
2 жыл бұрын
@@SeArCh4DrEaMz Brain blaze Biographics Geographics Highlight history Today I found out Top tenz Megaprojects Side projects Casual criminalist Into the shadows Decoding the unknown I'm probably forgetting a few lol
@Robert-zz7qj
2 жыл бұрын
@@DarkWolfseternalfire xplrd
@neilmackay5655
2 жыл бұрын
"A channel.." Oh my sweet summer child.
We need a Biographics on Nestor Makhno
@z31drifterlf
2 жыл бұрын
If you had to pick one thing, I’m glad the writer chose his anti pagram stance.
Would be amazing to hear coverage on the ww2 time ukrainian partisan movement for ukrainian independence that supposedly lasted well into the 50s
You should do the Red Ball Express sometime, it was a massive logistical under taking during WW2 to keep the frontlines fueled, fed, and loaded for the fight, it was an awesome operation that these days would have needed computers. Another good one is the Battle Of 43 Easting, the US operation that was key to the quick end to the first Gulf War, and an awesome example of how training and technology can overcome incredible differences in number of personnel.
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
The first Gulf War I assume you mean Kuwait ? Ending quickly because it had a clear aim - restore the independence of (relatively small) Kuwait against a generally unwanted occupying power, with a working government ready to move back into power and it tended to be military vs military targets, which once taken out were not coming back due to the threat of there is more where this came from.
Comparing Russia to Smallpox is accurate
You forgot to say how the Poles betrayed Ukraine and Ukrainians by signing a peace treaty with Bolshevik inhumans, dividing Ukraine in half. This was a direct violation of the Warsaw Pact of 1920. Unlike the Poles, the Ukrainians fulfilled their part of the agreement and held the front against the Bolsheviks, defending Polish land to the last
@stvk99
Жыл бұрын
imagine unironically calling someone inhuman lol
@maciejrzepczyk6562
4 ай бұрын
I know. Pilsudski was forced to sign the peace pact, and what is not known, are the words of utter hatred Pilsudski had against Polish people. He sent his own agent to Paris after Petlura's death to try and help clear his name.
Could you share the music you used for this video? I love the droning sound of it and would like to listen to it instrumental.
I had to pause this video in order to comment. I almost spit out my drink at “tequila Joseph Joestar.”
Great video! I still think you should do a biographic on Nestor Makhno!
You thought it was Simon but it was actually Dio
Ukrainian history sounds like something George R.R Martin would write.
@polinaporechna2008
Жыл бұрын
there is a saying 'nation of warriors' for a reason, cossack ancestry stronk
Estoninan war of independence would be a great subject for you to cover.
Didn’t realize I do in fact gobble down pop tarts while baked 😂😂😂😂
Ayyyyy Nestor Makhno, love that dude
10:32 A JoJo reference? **instantly smashes the like button**
Fun fact: Apparently Pilsudski had very negative views on the Polish government for forcing him to sign the peace treaty (some very harsh quotes are attributed to him). He also sent his own agent/official to Paris to try to help clear Petlura's name, who infact, punished anyone who tried to do what he was falsely accused of doing.
Simon:Like a stoner eating poptarts Me, a stoner eating poptarts: wait a minute
Damn, Simon and Co. Are up and churning out content early af today!!!!
Man, i wasn't expecting jojo reference in my Ukrainian history video
There's been centuries of tragedies and devastation for ethnic Ukrainians and Poles seeking independence. Their geographic location (between Moscow and Berlin) had to have played a vital role.
I actually visited Denikins grave in 2005 in New Jersey before his remains were sent back to Russia as a hero.
@chrisdiaz9011
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha a hero who commited crimes against humanity against Jews
I'm sensing a theme here. 🤔
I'm a stoner and i don't like pop tarts. Toast brother toast. And i just realized a few months ago when i was in the amazon i met a Scottish family and a few people from London. You guys love toast.
Please do Hans Joachim Marseille :)
Boss video
I love this video! When I was digging through records on ancestry and learning more about where my family came from I found that a lot of my family actually came from Galicia. I had always thought I was Hungarian but it seems I'm Ukraine slav.
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
Alas part of the word loves the slavs, part of the other despises them. To me you are welcome as a brother in humanity weather no matter where you originated family wise from
Please do the anglo boer wars next. Some of Brittians worst abuses of power in a truly pointless war. We South Africans still see it as one of the darkest chapters in our history with truly evil people on both sides. This war also gave rise to the greats like Churchill and others
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
For some reason the British had been fighting the Dutch on and off over 400 years, mostly at Sea , for trade and overseas land holdings.
@aAverageFan
2 ай бұрын
Churchill was a monster
Lol..........too perfect, a late night tea w/ Pringles......👍👍😆
Will there be a video on the Irish Civil War in the future?
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
I sort of know the story from the Michael Collins film. Being historically ancestorially Irish from all over bits of (Norman Occupied) Ireland, always was annoyed that the few surviving historical documents to my family are burnt fragments of court cases involving failure to get a dog licence in 1874. The wills and land deeds that my family had ( and so far as I know didnt survive within any family line), had all gone up in flames completely so although I have access to the indexes to the wills I dont know the context of what happened in 1790 to make the family make the decisions it did.
Shoulda kept the nukes.
How strange that there are two completely different places in Europe known as Galicia. And the histories and names have completely different roots. The other is in NW Spain and is named after the Celtic peoples of that region- Galicians.
@baneofbanes
6 ай бұрын
Oh you think that’s weird, there used to be two regions in the Caucasus mountains named Albania and Iberia respectively.
Bit of a change...There's that British understatement we all know and love
"Like a stoner gobbling pop tarts..." Yo, man, chill!
The more things change....
Thank you for teaching us history that we should've learned in school! I've always found European and western European history fascinating. I'd love to see more. Well done Simon and team! 😊👏❤ #WeStandWithUkraine
@tsartomato
2 жыл бұрын
nah not much history here, you need to start earlier when the language has split right after the northern and southern finally has merged together and shed the church slavoinic. and when capital was moved from kiev to vladimir and galitsko-volyn konungdoms started to drift away from the new capital in vladimir and later in moskow
You thought this was a warographics episode but it was me! Dio!
The Ukrainian People's Republic was much bigger as modern Ukraine
Good God that 'stache on Taras...
Now i want pringles
"The Tequila Joseph Joestar" what a reference accurate but damn
You said that all sides targeted jews. Its worth noting that the anarchists did not. There was an effort after the civil war made by the USSR to blame the atrocities they committed on the anarchists.
You mention this channel on other channels but you haven't linked it to the other channels yet.
Up next;belleau Woods
Also the great war channel has some great content on conflicts between the first and second world war.
Denikin actually moved to the US before World War II, (and yes despite what some say he was the most formidable White general in the war, (certainly not as some say Kolchak or Wrangel), he Denikin nearly took Moscow probably would have to if not for the anarchist black army back in Ukraine Formidable man, (though his forces also committed a lot of atrocities they all did), he was not necessarily in favor of restoring the monarchy it was kind of ambiguous. Makhno was also a formidable leader, (but there are limits to how far anarchism can go realistically, his Black army were as much about looting as anything else). Though In fairness they all did that. (also the white army was active in southern Ukraine and the Crimean peninsula until late 1920 only being evacuated in November they only lost Kiev in February 1920). Otherwise a really good video thank you!
Please visit Micahistory 2, it would mean a lot!
For real
Peace was not completed on 11/11/1918. That was the Armistice.
There was a sketch that explained how Piłsudski managed to save Poland in August 1920. One of his men convinced him to sneak into the Soviet camp, pretend to be Stalin and give nonsensical orders. I mean, they look a bit similar and who knows... Lol.
Some time soon [i hope] you will be able to do another victory for Ukraine
@fungunsun1
2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Good thing history hasn't repeated itself...
Kyiv not Kiev bro,good vid tho
@highpath4776
2 жыл бұрын
I suspect some of the subtitle and narration attempts to use the names given at the time the events were taking place.
Can’t wait for the video that covers the current Ukraine-Russian War.
Coincidentally as I watch this... I'm stoned AND eating a poptart 😆
Fascinating video, one small note for your editor though, a lot of the photos shown for the Germans show either British / Commonwealth troops or only a couple of German troops which can be seen by their very different helmets. Worth bearing in mind for future videos that Imperial Germany appears in :)
Oligarch Bear Made Out of Vodka would be a good name for a band.
All I know is I'mma click any thumbnail that's got Grand Marshal Pilsudski's moustache front and center.
Fascinating insight. I didn't even go into the details of these wars and skirmishes in my European Studies degree. Thus, this really goes into the depths of Ukrainian and Eastern European history.
*WAS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?*
@mechanicore1148
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Consistently great content
That Jojo reference has me dying
@JamaisArriere1
2 жыл бұрын
Which one was that?
@Xayver1082
2 жыл бұрын
@@JamaisArriere1 tequila Joseph Joestar reference lmao
@resileaf9501
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part is that Simon doesn't watch anime, so all those references his writers put in go completely over his head.
War never chcanges. Civilians are always the loosing side in a war
I have an ancestor who likely fled those type of pogroms, although he is a bit of a mystery as for his whole life he said he was Prussian, but after he died his wife said he was actually a Russian Jew, so I am unsure what the truth is. It's likely he was, and didn't want to face antisemitism inside the US as well
Battles of Kawanakajima
WAS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE
I’d love it if you tackled the battle of Sekigahara (or even the whole Sengoku period) as by its end Japan was one country (mostly!) for the first time and the Tokugawa Shogunate began. Alternatively, the Satsuma Rebellion, while not as significant, was the last gasp of samurai resistance to the Meiji Restoration and the rise of Imperial Japan.
Why does this guy have so many channels