Come on guys .. 1700 views in 7 days and only 9 people subscribed .. just hit that subscribe button .. its not hard lol

Thanks for the effort you all put into making this happen. If Cody hasn’t brought his pack up to your Chihuahuan desert country in New Mexico already, I think it’d be interesting to see this same hunt/discussion format replicated to catch bobcats in the desert.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

That is our plan .. probably have to wait until it cools off ... Thanks

Awesome upload!!! I haven't made it all the way through yet but it's fun!! I leave my phone in my tool belt and listen while working. Thanks for doing this one Brett!!

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

As always, good content Brett!

Always great videos and interviews

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@Jimtom933

Жыл бұрын

@@InterviewsStoriesandTales yessir , I fox and deer hunt with walkers in coastal NC have my Whole life. I also do a lot of squirrel hunting , I have a 2x champion ukc treeing cur squirrel dog .. lots of fun. Got buddies here that cat hunt and catch a couple every time they go near about . We got a lot of cats here , I see a few every year deer hunting .. I killed a big Tom 34 lbs year before Last on my 30 acre lease .. we have lots of pines, agriculture fields , and pocosin forest. I usually won’t shoot a cat or a fox just let the dogs run them .Have you ever met or interviewed Cletis Dale Cole? Happy hunting . #keepallhoundhuntingalive

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

@@Jimtom933 I think I have it lined up to interview him

Good job on the video Brett. -Derek

Really like the video bret, bobcat dogs are a special hound. Ive hunted hounds 40 plus cats only in snow and its tough with bear dogs catching bobbers on dry ground.

Real good stuff!

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris .. I look forward to your great adventure video tomorrow night

Very interesting. Glad to have run across this. I would bet there are quite a few rabbits there to feed all those cats. Be fun to have my beagle pack there.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

7 ай бұрын

I bet so .. thanks

Those vines are called Wait a minite vines... We don't have planted pines here in the Ozarks of southern Missouri Ive hog hunted in other states in planted pines and run running hounds also in planted pines I use to go to a lot of field trials all over... We do have some really bad cutovers here after loggers have clear cut an area it grows up in sprouts & briars of all kinds... I started with running hounds and tree bred hounds still have some but also have Cur Dogs and Cur Hound cross dogs... Most people say cats won't tree here which is true & untrue at the same time... With full running bred hounds only running them I've never seen a cat treed... They end up caught on the ground or bayed on the ground or go in a ground hole or in a bluff or just seem to disappear... For many years I was of the mind set that bobcats were impossible to tree here until one morning a friend of mines running hounds jumped a cat & it came out of the briar patch theyd been bumping it around in & crossed the road headed into another patch of brush & briars.. I turned some of my hounds in and my half heeler half australian sheperd spiked herself in on her own as she seen it when it crossed the road... She was a excellent treedog good squirrel & coondog decent hogdog & any animals worst nightmare in a short race they ran it less than 5 min after that & the race blew up just silence... This had happened 100s of times in the past where hounds was running a cat almost by sight & it just seemed to vanish so I chalked it up as a loss... Anyway the hounds were drifing on hunting trying to find it as they had GPS collars on but my shepherd didnt have one on... Unbeknown to us she had doubled back & got back after the cat or just the cat had set let the dogs pass & doubled back & went up & she just located him idk... She barked treed 150-200 yards off the road & I went to her in the patch of brush there was one of largest tallest blackjack oak trees Ive ever seen growinging & way up in the top out on a giant limb set the bobcat... She had caught other cats on the ground before that the hounds were running but this was the first cat I ever treed... Anyway after that & Ive proved it many times since but I believe 99% of those cats that just seemed to disappear being run sight race I think they went up & the hounds just never located them or just didnt have it in them to look up. Ive had good luck with my cur dogs since then treeing cats dogs that said nothing on track at all they ambush the cat & it had no choice but to go up... Ive also turned hounds that will tree on them almost sight race & the cats went up since then... Its always been a big older growth tree never a small tree...

@codyking4342

Жыл бұрын

Wait a minute vines…..thats a good name for them. Reading your comment I began to grin and laugh because it made me think of Ruben Lassman. Ruben used to always say “i like to hear the race but if all I cared about was killing cats id get me some silent cur dogs” he always said hed bet he could catch just as many cats if not more with them and they would all tree.

@jasonraulston3922

Жыл бұрын

@@codyking4342 He was correct I'm a Houndsman at heart and still prefer a semi open dog on track... I like a good race but even a semi silent or tight mouthed dog will put a lot of cats in holes seems like... Silent dogs it's a small frackcus on the ground if anything then barking treed...

@DirtySouth69

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like your area is probably a lot like mine. I’ve considered getting some running dogs all I’ve got at the moment is tree dogs and have trailed a couple cats but they always seem to get away which I think my fix would be a couple running dogs. I hunt the Ozarks as well but where I hunt we have none to very little cutover.

Awesome video!! Love your channel. This may not be nearly as cool, but do you think you can get some more old coon hunters on here.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

11 ай бұрын

Maybe some day .. not really in a good location for coon hunters

CK is the man.

Hey Brett, haven't watched the whole episode yet, but so far so good! Curious, have you ever spoken with or hunted with Dale Cole of Coles National Cat hounds? I believe he is in Oklahoma...has Cody hunted with him? Curious about his dogs....I subscribed!

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

4 ай бұрын

I have chatted with him on facebook thats about it .. I think he has good dogs

I have cat dogs I’m in south Alabama loved the video an would love to come to Texas or Oklahoma and hunt

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Gotta talk to Derek or Cody .. they can point you in the right direction

Very well done video. Great dogs. Great houndsmen. Great hunt. I’m unclear on one thing though: I got the impression the two packs were striking tracks and being run together. Could you please clarify that? Please tell me that the south texas dogs were striking, trailing and running separately and caught their own bobcats without any aid from a local pack of dogs. Surely they were, so something can be proven by all this, but that point was not made clear in the video. Because if they were run with the southeast Oklahoma dogs the only thing proven was that the Oklahoma dogs were strong enough to overcome the hindrances of running with strange dogs. A lot of bobcat hunters have learned not to allow strange dogs to run with their pack. It is a lot for the dogs to overcome and still do their job. If they were run together it says a lot about the strength of the pack from Oklahoma to overcome that. It proves Absolutely Nothing about the pack from South Texas. They might as well not have been there so the Oklahoma dogs could catch the cat in 25 minutes instead of 40 minutes. (40 minutes is a Long Time in perfect running conditions.) These guys know all this. So CERTAINLY the South Texas dogs were run ALONE! If not, they must be thinking (Hoping) there are no bobcat hunters who watch your channel. Because it is utter silliness to say this proves ANYTHING about the Texas dogs. If they were run together, and this proves the South Texas dogs can consistently catch Mississippi bobcats, you should have brought one of your Southwest Lion hound pups and thrown him in there. Then you could have proven your Southwest Lion dogs can catch Mississippi bobcats just as good as Mississippi bobcat dogs (by catching a cat with Southeast Oklahoma dogs in Southeast Oklahoma). Did I get this right: the goal of this video is to prove that a man in Mississippi is full of ..it. ? And, how many years did you say this has been the goal? Hopefully they ran the South Texas pack alone so the man from Texas can show the man from Mississippi that he caught cats with HIS dogs, and HIS DOGS ALONE, in Oklahoma (in perfect conditions; and in the easiest places, says the Oklahoma man, in fun). Now, on to Mississippi, so he can say HIS dogs caught cats without help in Mississippi. Then, off to the West Coast to prove that they can locate by themselves. In any case, two good dog packs, and a FUN HUNT together! Two cats in three hunts! A Lot of time and money spent making that video; Especially if you throw in the time and money of three men taking several days off work, travel expenses, video equipment, and the immeasurable expenses of raising up two good packs of bobcat hounds. The great effort is appreciated.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

I will have to get Cody to answer this .. but I do think that Derek got his hounds from Cody .. and as far as my lion hounds are concerned .. heck they would still be over there cold trailing lol

@JonathanHuntandFish-ov8mn

Жыл бұрын

From what I was told Derek had dogs from the east coast that couldnt get it done here. So he sold them not long before this video and got south texas dogs from Cody and some other hunters from south texas

@pegtop5455

Жыл бұрын

@@JonathanHuntandFish-ov8mn I’m not sure what we are proving: 1) that a pack of hounds that have never been out of South Texas can go to Mississippi and catch cats just as good as a pack from Mississippi? Or 2) that the genetics used in South Texas will work just as good as the genetics used in Mississippi? Or 3) some other thing. If it is #1, I guess you would have to find a pack that has not been out of South Texas. And take it directly to Mississippi and hunt that pack without help from local dogs. If it is #2, I guess you would have to find the genetics that the Mississippi man was referring to, and take them to Mississippi and hunt them,without the help of local dogs, until they become accustomed to their new environment, and show that they are genetically just as good as the Mississippi dogs. But the genetics in South Texas has been changing through the years. So how could you even find the genetics the Mississippi man was talking about? I know a South Texas hunter that has added more and more of the registered (cat bred) running walker blood to his pack. He is influential to those around him also. So what was the Mississippi man talking about years ago? Was he saying you can’t come up with dogs in the next ten years, (or however many years), that can match mine in Mississippi? Or was he saying the dogs I used from South Texas years ago didn’t work for me in Mississippi? Or what exactly are we challenging? If we are testing #2 genetic ability, and the Oklahoma dogs in the video are genetically South Texas Dogs; then there was no purpose in the Texas man bringing his dogs all the way from South Texas. Just call the Oklahoma man and ask him if exclusively South Texas genetics is working well for catching bobcats in Southeast Oklahoma. Save a lot of time and money if that is already proven. But again, if the Oklahoma man also has a dog or dogs that are not from South Texas, then the case could be made that the South Texas dogs probably couldn’t do so well on their own without the help of the Non-South Texas dog(s). So then just ask the Oklahoma man to please only hunt the South Texas dogs until you know for sure they can do just as well without the non-South Texas dogs. But what does any of it prove about Mississippi? ...Unless the case is being made that Oklahoma is just like Mississippi. If we are testing #1 environmental ability, then this pack from South Texas is already ruined for taking an exclusively South Texas pack to Mississippi. Especially if someone is making the case that Oklahoma is like Mississippi. Because now they have had practice and local mentorship in an allegedly Mississippi-like environment. So they are no longer being taken to Mississippi from a strictly South Texas environment. Help me out. What are we trying to prove, and What was proven here? Last question: Why does it matter? Take a kid fishing.

@Bobcat-uh5dh

Жыл бұрын

@@pegtop5455 I'll give my perspective. This is Derek. First, how did this hunt come about? I go down south and hunt with Cody periodically, so I had extended an invitation for Cody to come up and hunt with me. It's a long ways from Cody's house so it doesn't happen often. Another friend (Brett) offered to come video the hunt, so we did it. We didn't put this whole hunt together for the sole purpose of trying to prove anything. Does it prove anything? Well, yes. Some have said that it's easier to catch cats in south TX than in some other places and for that reason south TX cat dogs don't work in some other places. We did show that dogs that are south TX bred and have been raised in south TX can catch cats in SE Oklahoma, which is very different country than south TX. Cody also made it a point to mention in the video that SE Ok is not Mississippi and that people in other places will still say "they didn't do it here." We all work and don't get paid to drive across the country videoing cat hunts to experiment or prove anything, so who know if the opportunity to go other places and video a hunt will ever happen. If so, then good deal. About running two packs, yes I had 8 dogs in this video. 3 were young dogs so they weren't a deciding factor either way. All three of those are south TX bred. Out of the other 5 dogs, 3 I trained mostly in SE Oklahoma and two I bought out of south TX as trained dogs. All are south TX bred except one of the bought dogs. He's pretty crossed up with mostly running walker, a little July and a little pot licker. If our main goal was to prove something definitively, then yeah we should've left my dogs at home. Again, that wasn't the main point of the hunt. The main point was to go hunting with some buddies and have some fun. Since Brett was willing to travel all that way to video, it provided an opportunity to make something that someone might get some value out of, whether educational or just entertainment. What I like best about it is that there are virtually no other videos specifically showing a southern style bobcat hunt, especially with the twist thrown in of bringing dogs from one type country to another. When I was starting out 20+ years ago, I could've learned something from this video. Hopefully, someone else can now. No matter what the video shows or what any of us said in it, there will always be someone who has enough experience that they don't learn anything from this particular video and there will be some that disagree with something one of us said here for whatever reason. There's such a wide range of challenges with the type of country and the game a person is trying to catch with hounds that it will always be hard to have an apples to apples comparison, let alone document the experiences with all that's involved on video. There is also a wide range of dogs people use. Most videos talk more about the trail hounds but there is still a wide range of dogs within the running dogs. I've heard podcasts where people referred to "running dogs" on the west coast that were really dogs that had a little running dog bred into them but there are a wide range just within the running walker breed. There is a big difference between a one day pen bred dog, a three day dog, a dog bred to catch coyotes in Missouri, a dog bred to run deer, and dogs bred to run fox or cat. All of those can be registered running walker dogs. South TX dogs are just another variation of dog, most of which are primarily running walker with a little bit of something else mixed in over the generations to make dogs that work well with the challenges to catching cats in south TX. Everywhere has a little different challenges and everyone has a little different preference in dogs for a variety of reasons. This video just shows one experience shared by three guys. It was a good hunt. I hope everyone else's next hunt is a good one too. -Derek

@codyking4342

Жыл бұрын

@@pegtop5455i can shed a little light on this. First of all the story about the Mississippi argument years ago was just a conversation about what got the idea of filming dogs hunting in different areas started. It didnt have anything to do with what we are doing now. Brett just wanted to talk about what got the idea started. We werent in Mississippi so that alone cancels any proving of that. But a lot of other people had said the same thing about SE Oklahoma. And even east Texas. Most of them are just generalizing “cut over country”. Where logging causes those vines to grow back really thick. Most of them are just basing their opinions off of what they have seen. And thats what caused the argument years ago. What one south texas hunter does is not a reflection of what the entire area does. He had bought some dogs from someone who was a notorious dog trader and I think that ruined his opinion of south Texas dogs. What this hunt was really about was helping my friend Derek. He had some bad luck a few years ago and lost his better dogs. Since then he has had a lot of trouble catching cats. He brought in some dogs from different areas but wasnt having much luck. Then he purchased a pack of dogs from the east coast, treeing walkers, but they didnt work out either. Not saying east coast dogs wont work somewhere, just that those east coast dogs didnt work for Derek. I do believe the reason they didnt work out was because of the area where Derek hunts. It is a very tough place to catch cats in. Derek started coming down and hunting with me to help put some cats on his dogs and train his younger dogs. He got rid of the dogs that werent working for him in that area and started getting some dogs from a few south Texas hunters. The problem was when Derek and I would talk about his hunts and what was going wrong I was essentially having to decipher something that I knew nothing about. Derek was facing a lot of issues up there that we dont face down here in South Texas. Many of nights Derek and I would talk on the phone and I would respond “Hell maybe south texas dogs cant catch cats up there in that stuff” Derek was also hesitant to continue to add south Texas type dogs to his pack if he nor I were certain that they were capable of catching cats up there. Some of the other people Derek talked to had told him not to do that because they probably wouldnt work and Derek still wasnt having any luck. Thats when we decided that the only way we would be able to know for sure and the only way I would be able to to know what was going on was for me to load up and go. And Brett wanted to film and share that story. Brett warned me that if he went he was gonna film the good the bad and the ugly and we laughed and said go ahead. But Brett also wanted to document what I thought the difference were. We got very lucky and conditions were perfect. It rained the night we got there. And Derek knew where to go to the places where he had been starting them. Now that I have been there and seen what Derek has to deal with I have more of an understanding what he is dealing with. That is a very very tough place to hunt and I would hate to have to start from scratch building a pack of dogs that can catch cats in that country like Derek has had to do. Its easy for someone with a trained pack of dogs to show up and be able to catch a couple cats compared to how hard it would be to build a pack there. It was a fun hunt and Brett got to make a pretty cool video of some of the dog work. Theres not many videos around showing that kind of hunting so that was cool too.

Oklahoma is very different than Mississippi. Those cutovers are brutal. No shot at you von keep up doing what you do.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

I guess I need to talk Cody into going to Mississippi lol Thanks!

@JonathanHuntandFish-ov8mn

Жыл бұрын

What part of southeast Oklahoma have you hunted in? And how did the cutover here compare to the cutover in Mississippi

@DirtySouth69

5 ай бұрын

@@JonathanHuntandFish-ov8mn I’ve hunted south Arkansas cutover which is a lot like southern Mississippi in places, didn’t look like they had any water here in Oklahoma where as Arkansas and Mississippi tend to have a ton of water. More like a swamp then where these guys were hunting. But there is a lot of dry pine cutover just like this.

55:28 hey Brett what is the app they are using to broadcast the map on the truck screen? OnX does it now but that looks different. Great video. Enjoyed it a lot

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

I'm not real sure .. that big screen in the middle is what is built in to Derricks truck ..

@Brooklyn_Edwards

Жыл бұрын

It’s the GAIA gps app

@VicksPeak

Жыл бұрын

@@Brooklyn_Edwards thanks

Great video Brett and Cody thx

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

You bet .. Thank you!

Man, I have so many stories about lion hunting, bear hunting, bobcat hunting that I cannot share on KZread.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

9 ай бұрын

lol I have a few of those too .. some day we need to get together and talk ?

Good video boys a track dog and I mean a good track dog can track in any man's country

I bought hounds because of comments on KZread...

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Well I guess your addicted now ... we do offer a 12 step program if it becomes a problem .. only $24.99 just let us know lol

@Jack-mw7tb

Жыл бұрын

That stated in 1988

“The Northern Bobcat Dog “ by David Peightal

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

4 ай бұрын

Yep have 2 copies he sent me ..

I'll tell ya what, those south Texas running hounds were affected a lot less by the new place than that New Mexico camera man was... but we got some great shots of that east Oklahoma dirt...😂😂😂

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Terrain makes big difference no matter what.

So is it majority pine trees in this area or is there some hardwood?

@DirtySouth69

5 ай бұрын

Scratch that. Heard the one guy say only hardwoods are around the creek bottoms

I just want to know where in southeast Oklahoma yall hunting. I live in southeast Oklahoma. And see cats all over these hills

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

3 ай бұрын

I can't remember .. have to ask Cody

I have running Walkers and I'm curious ... Why are the tails bobbed?

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

5 ай бұрын

they whip their tail back and forth when trailing and can make the end bloody

The truth will stand when all else fails.

@1:06:21 East Coast registered dogs trail too!! Just bc they have papers don’t mean they can’t trail with the best of them! Most cold nosed registered running walkers are developed over time rather than born a cold trailer. Most cold trailing young dogs don’t make the grade here.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

4 ай бұрын

Where is here?

@rooster9190

4 ай бұрын

@@InterviewsStoriesandTales Virginia

How many dogs was Cody running

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

Not sure but there was a bunch of them ..

Nothing like dogs barking treed and when you finally make it to the tree is a bow hunter. Yep been there, done that.

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

9 ай бұрын

lol that would be something ...

Hunt all terrain dogs need to be you’s. To to do 👍

That's not what Harold said

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

Жыл бұрын

I think Harold was good about everything .. it was David that kinda got sideways with Cody

Every one brags on thier own hounds.

@codyg572

9 ай бұрын

Everyone should.

Not starting a fight , but with these tracking collars of today I dont think these younger hunters actually know their hounds . they run around looking at their trackers and. dont listen to the race. js

@InterviewsStoriesandTales

8 ай бұрын

I think your right with a lot of them .. but some places kinda hard to stay with them .. not like the way I hunt here out west