South Shore Little Joe tows GG-1 and AEM-7 at the Illinois Railway Museum
Even your grandma was foamin
Жүктеу.....
Пікірлер: 83
@Pensyfan19 Жыл бұрын
RARE: Alan Fisher uploads railfanning footage. Not surprised that it involves electric engines from the IRM.
@GeneralLiuofBoston1911
Жыл бұрын
Emphasis on electric engines
@zacharylegaspi7594 Жыл бұрын
reject utilitarian design, return to stylistic streamlining
@hawkeyetherailfan
Жыл бұрын
siemens take notes, or at the very least get a proper paint department.
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
little joe design, best.
@ttangen8754
Ай бұрын
Nah the SD40-2 and Ge Dash 9 are cool as hell there buster
@sirbarongaming21387 ай бұрын
There's a working little Joe in America still, that's friggin awesome
@LiminalTub Жыл бұрын
Three of my favorite locomotives in one consist, love it.
@istheisak3529 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit the three best American loco's ever all together
@EpicThe112
Ай бұрын
They are and if you decided to do the West Germans they would have the following result DB Baureihe 194 Krokodil Einheitselok DB Baureihe 150 110.3 DB Baureihe 103 DB Baureihe 120. American veterans that live in West Germany sees the same result too
@topspeedtrain8751 Жыл бұрын
Saw this irl can confirm very foamy 10/10 would foam again
@InventorZahran
7 ай бұрын
Three highly foamable locos in one consist! I was foaming so hard to this video, I can't imagine how much foaminess there was when this was filmed...
@SkylarsTerribleMemes Жыл бұрын
THE MILWAUKEE ROAD
@zacharylegaspi7594
Жыл бұрын
I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT
@notarotomwithhair5637
Жыл бұрын
south shore line chicago-south bend
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
They did get the lion’s share of these. Several also went to Brazil.
@chickenboymiller3928 Жыл бұрын
Don’t know if this is the right place to post this, but I would love to see a video about the staggers rail act and the mass abandonment of railroads in the 80s and years later. And what can be done modern day to increase usage of branch lines and railroads in general.
@dmman33
Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@theexcaliburone5933
Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY THIRDED. I have a PDF of the Staggers act languishing on an obscure tab in my browser and would really, really like to outsource reading it
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
Staggers was badly needed after a century of overtaxation and regulation of the railroads as well as having their competition subsidized by the taxes they paid. Some mergers that would have saved more mainlines especially in the Northeast were never allowed to happen. Essentially the only thing that would begin to undo damage now is defunding roads and privatizing interstate highways as toll roads because the costs of trucking are way artificially low. George Hilton was of the best sources on railroad economics and regulation, as well as historical publications on short lived industries like interurban lines, cable cars, and great lakes passenger ships. He was one of the economists somewhat credited with killing the ICC.
@janmelantu7490 Жыл бұрын
South Shore Baybeee! American electric railroads outside the NEC
@True_NOON Жыл бұрын
The holy Trinity of electrics
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer
Жыл бұрын
All that's missing is the PRR DD1, PRR E44, and GN W-1.
@versedbridge4007 Жыл бұрын
The spark was a bonus!
@ExileLinkv2 Жыл бұрын
so many wheels
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657 Жыл бұрын
I dont think ive ever seen it run under its own power before. Hopefully they get the electroliner fixed soon
@SHKarlson
Жыл бұрын
The 803 (the South Shore guys get irritated if you call it a "Little Joe") has run on occasion, including on the coach train. The motorman has to be careful to lower the pan and coast wherever there are trolley frogs. That. plus the current draw (even in series, that is a serious freight motor) generally keep it in Barn 9. The 'Liner did run during the parade. It's back in good mechanical condition, the interior is still getting worked on, with the tables in the lounge having the tops and trim renewed, and the middle car that Philadelphia Suburban cut an extra entrance into has a lot of work yet.
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657
Жыл бұрын
@@SHKarlson ive seen it in person calm down lol
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlsonI did manage to ride behind it once.
@ryans1010 Жыл бұрын
I’d love for them to restore that GG1 and AEM7
@yeoldeseawitch
11 ай бұрын
GG1 cant run ever again due to PCBs in the transformers and other various 1930s shit thats incompatible with the current setup without turning it into a brand new engine
@loganbrown8282
9 ай бұрын
@@yeoldeseawitch It doesnt seem impossible to remove the old transformer and make something with similar specs and slap it in, but to be fair im no engineer
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@loganbrown8282alternatively a power source for the traction motors housed in a trailing car would work. The big difficulty is finding a GG1 with the best frame.
@brianjohnson2542
3 ай бұрын
Would love to see someone take a gg1 clean all the guts out of it and put all new modern tech inside to make it run. Original on the outside, new completely changed on the inside. Can this be done?
@91_C4_FL9 ай бұрын
I know the challenges that go along with getting a GG1 running again (with the transformers and such). But I feel like the IRM is the best place to make it happen since they have the infrastructure to run it.
@jacobs1491
7 ай бұрын
They dont. their line is DC. the GG1 is AC
@91_C4_FL
7 ай бұрын
@@jacobs1491 I never said they ran it.
@Daniel-hj8el Жыл бұрын
Yes, the three legendary electric American locomotives, I really wish the Milwaukee Road still exist for me, but not anymore.🥲
@nolantherailfan50489 ай бұрын
I didn't know little Joe was in operating condition
@sotomanuel310 ай бұрын
I love this engine
@TrainMedia006 ай бұрын
Little Joe is a Handsome boy i love the orange and stuff i did not know this locomotive is in operation
@DESUDESU242 ай бұрын
I was there! I finally got the see the Little Joe move under it's own power
@SimplyRailway Жыл бұрын
SICK 🥵
@ElectricNed Жыл бұрын
I just rode the South Shore today, what are the odds? This week was my first time.
@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes4510 ай бұрын
Toaster my beloved
@mbtaghost2583 Жыл бұрын
They need to run 945 on its own power soon
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
catenary won't support 12k volt AC.
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
I'm sure the motors are in the 750 volt range.
@rearspeaker6364
10 ай бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C unless it's an AC traction motor version of the toaster.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
It could be made into something like a slug, but it might cost more than the trouble would be worth.
@Wes8761
3 ай бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 Oh good point, since its an AEM-7AC, they will have totally different motors than the original AEM-7s and ALP-44s. My documentation says they are 3 phase with 1550v between phases.
@Ih8kone6 ай бұрын
She's a beauty. Nice catch.
@owenjones96595 ай бұрын
its about time the little joe ran again
@RandomRailfan828 Жыл бұрын
That’s neat, what a nice shot!
@matthewjachtorowicz39435 ай бұрын
The gg1 is operational too by the way. Theres footage of it running somewhere
@johnknippenberg-LandmarkYards4 ай бұрын
Cool catch!
@Jellllyyyyyy456RobloxGamer11 ай бұрын
is that the max speed of little joe
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
Maybe track speed, but they could manage at least 70.
@DavidNightjet Жыл бұрын
Poggers
@philliplee980 Жыл бұрын
Nice very cool
@trashrabbit69 Жыл бұрын
SODA!!!!!!
@anindrapratama Жыл бұрын
I want to know if there's a drawing of Little joe depicting it in Soviet service
@SHKarlson
Жыл бұрын
They never made it to the USSR. I wonder if the paint job would be similar to those used on the Db series Baldwin cab units that did run across the steppes.
@yeoldeseawitch
11 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlson so its basically a repeat of the russian decapod steam locomotive story?
@SHKarlson
11 ай бұрын
@@yeoldeseawitch In outline, yes. Those Baldwin cab units I referred to did get shipped over, but the twenty electrics were held up later as "strategic materials." I run across stuff in railroad histories about somebody involved with both The Milwaukee Road and the government engaging in machinations to keep the motors Stateside, but those machinations were too clever by half, which is why Milwaukee got only the twelve. The Russian Decapod story has a second act, yes, the final lot that never shipped out didn't ship out after Lenin's crew took over the country. But then another couple thousand to the same plans went over during the War as lend-lease. It's mostly those from the second set still doing preservation work in Russia, that is, if there's any railway preservation going on there any more.
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
I had read on a forum that there's a kickass steam shop in Russia. Government subsidized.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlsonthere are a lot that have been plinthed.
@mistgate Жыл бұрын
But did you catch the Electroliner puttering about?
@EpicThe112 Жыл бұрын
If you were able to raise the catenary voltage 15kv 16.7hz AC then you can tug of war GG1 PRR Little Joe and a West German Deutsche Bundesbahn Baureihe 150 Krokodil Baureihe 193 alt & Baureihe 194 in tug of war. For the West German locomotives you need the ones that have AAR couplers held by a pin like a British Class 91 IC225 locomotive for the hook slots that way the West German locomotives are coupled to each other against the GG1 Little Joe while on the other track you have AEM-7 vs a West German Deutsche Bundesbahn Baureihe 110.3 111 103 or 120 locomotives passenger loco tug of war.
@rearspeaker6364
10 ай бұрын
the crock would rip both of them down the track from a standstill, but the gg1 and toaster could do 90 plus. can't drag a crock past 40.
@EpicThe112
10 ай бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 You mean the West German 193/194 which were used by the US Army for the Berlin-Frankfurt/Bremen trains the last car being the Caboose
@richardchamberlain85274 ай бұрын
The "Little Joe," the GG1, and the "Little Volvo" look in great shape. If it wasn't for the Union RR Museum, these locomotives might not have survived for us to see them.
@csxnspittsburghdivision8580 Жыл бұрын
Are they trying to run the gg1
@versedbridge4007
Жыл бұрын
I wish
@csxnspittsburghdivision8580
Жыл бұрын
@versedbridge4007 why do there don't run them there? They will get more money
@seand7894
Жыл бұрын
@csxpittsburghdivision8580 The museum runs on 600-odd-volt DC current. The GG-1s ran on over 11,000 Volts of AC. I've been in the GG-1 here, and internally, it's in extremely rough condition. Most/all of the surviving GG-1s have had the electronics removed for abatement of the PCB oils inside. Short of Gutting and rebuilding them with modern transformer and electronics, they'll never run again. And that doesn't even address the severe frame fatigue and cracking that they all suffered from in the last decade of service. If you look at any GG-1 you'll find goobers of weld repairs all of the frames that only ever lasted as short-term fixes.
@csxnspittsburghdivision8580
Жыл бұрын
@@seand7894 okay
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
@@seand7894 Unfortunately, that is correct. easier to build a new GG-1, and throw the guts of a AEM-7 inside it, but who has 20 million to do that??....and to add, the politics to let amtrak to run it on the NEC?
Пікірлер: 83
RARE: Alan Fisher uploads railfanning footage. Not surprised that it involves electric engines from the IRM.
@GeneralLiuofBoston1911
Жыл бұрын
Emphasis on electric engines
reject utilitarian design, return to stylistic streamlining
@hawkeyetherailfan
Жыл бұрын
siemens take notes, or at the very least get a proper paint department.
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
little joe design, best.
@ttangen8754
Ай бұрын
Nah the SD40-2 and Ge Dash 9 are cool as hell there buster
There's a working little Joe in America still, that's friggin awesome
Three of my favorite locomotives in one consist, love it.
Holy shit the three best American loco's ever all together
@EpicThe112
Ай бұрын
They are and if you decided to do the West Germans they would have the following result DB Baureihe 194 Krokodil Einheitselok DB Baureihe 150 110.3 DB Baureihe 103 DB Baureihe 120. American veterans that live in West Germany sees the same result too
Saw this irl can confirm very foamy 10/10 would foam again
@InventorZahran
7 ай бұрын
Three highly foamable locos in one consist! I was foaming so hard to this video, I can't imagine how much foaminess there was when this was filmed...
THE MILWAUKEE ROAD
@zacharylegaspi7594
Жыл бұрын
I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT
@notarotomwithhair5637
Жыл бұрын
south shore line chicago-south bend
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
They did get the lion’s share of these. Several also went to Brazil.
Don’t know if this is the right place to post this, but I would love to see a video about the staggers rail act and the mass abandonment of railroads in the 80s and years later. And what can be done modern day to increase usage of branch lines and railroads in general.
@dmman33
Жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@theexcaliburone5933
Жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY THIRDED. I have a PDF of the Staggers act languishing on an obscure tab in my browser and would really, really like to outsource reading it
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
Staggers was badly needed after a century of overtaxation and regulation of the railroads as well as having their competition subsidized by the taxes they paid. Some mergers that would have saved more mainlines especially in the Northeast were never allowed to happen. Essentially the only thing that would begin to undo damage now is defunding roads and privatizing interstate highways as toll roads because the costs of trucking are way artificially low. George Hilton was of the best sources on railroad economics and regulation, as well as historical publications on short lived industries like interurban lines, cable cars, and great lakes passenger ships. He was one of the economists somewhat credited with killing the ICC.
South Shore Baybeee! American electric railroads outside the NEC
The holy Trinity of electrics
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer
Жыл бұрын
All that's missing is the PRR DD1, PRR E44, and GN W-1.
The spark was a bonus!
so many wheels
I dont think ive ever seen it run under its own power before. Hopefully they get the electroliner fixed soon
@SHKarlson
Жыл бұрын
The 803 (the South Shore guys get irritated if you call it a "Little Joe") has run on occasion, including on the coach train. The motorman has to be careful to lower the pan and coast wherever there are trolley frogs. That. plus the current draw (even in series, that is a serious freight motor) generally keep it in Barn 9. The 'Liner did run during the parade. It's back in good mechanical condition, the interior is still getting worked on, with the tables in the lounge having the tops and trim renewed, and the middle car that Philadelphia Suburban cut an extra entrance into has a lot of work yet.
@plisskenationbackfromthede3657
Жыл бұрын
@@SHKarlson ive seen it in person calm down lol
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlsonI did manage to ride behind it once.
I’d love for them to restore that GG1 and AEM7
@yeoldeseawitch
11 ай бұрын
GG1 cant run ever again due to PCBs in the transformers and other various 1930s shit thats incompatible with the current setup without turning it into a brand new engine
@loganbrown8282
9 ай бұрын
@@yeoldeseawitch It doesnt seem impossible to remove the old transformer and make something with similar specs and slap it in, but to be fair im no engineer
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@loganbrown8282alternatively a power source for the traction motors housed in a trailing car would work. The big difficulty is finding a GG1 with the best frame.
@brianjohnson2542
3 ай бұрын
Would love to see someone take a gg1 clean all the guts out of it and put all new modern tech inside to make it run. Original on the outside, new completely changed on the inside. Can this be done?
I know the challenges that go along with getting a GG1 running again (with the transformers and such). But I feel like the IRM is the best place to make it happen since they have the infrastructure to run it.
@jacobs1491
7 ай бұрын
They dont. their line is DC. the GG1 is AC
@91_C4_FL
7 ай бұрын
@@jacobs1491 I never said they ran it.
Yes, the three legendary electric American locomotives, I really wish the Milwaukee Road still exist for me, but not anymore.🥲
I didn't know little Joe was in operating condition
I love this engine
Little Joe is a Handsome boy i love the orange and stuff i did not know this locomotive is in operation
I was there! I finally got the see the Little Joe move under it's own power
SICK 🥵
I just rode the South Shore today, what are the odds? This week was my first time.
Toaster my beloved
They need to run 945 on its own power soon
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
catenary won't support 12k volt AC.
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
I'm sure the motors are in the 750 volt range.
@rearspeaker6364
10 ай бұрын
@@MilwaukeeF40C unless it's an AC traction motor version of the toaster.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
It could be made into something like a slug, but it might cost more than the trouble would be worth.
@Wes8761
3 ай бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 Oh good point, since its an AEM-7AC, they will have totally different motors than the original AEM-7s and ALP-44s. My documentation says they are 3 phase with 1550v between phases.
She's a beauty. Nice catch.
its about time the little joe ran again
That’s neat, what a nice shot!
The gg1 is operational too by the way. Theres footage of it running somewhere
Cool catch!
is that the max speed of little joe
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
Maybe track speed, but they could manage at least 70.
Poggers
Nice very cool
SODA!!!!!!
I want to know if there's a drawing of Little joe depicting it in Soviet service
@SHKarlson
Жыл бұрын
They never made it to the USSR. I wonder if the paint job would be similar to those used on the Db series Baldwin cab units that did run across the steppes.
@yeoldeseawitch
11 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlson so its basically a repeat of the russian decapod steam locomotive story?
@SHKarlson
11 ай бұрын
@@yeoldeseawitch In outline, yes. Those Baldwin cab units I referred to did get shipped over, but the twenty electrics were held up later as "strategic materials." I run across stuff in railroad histories about somebody involved with both The Milwaukee Road and the government engaging in machinations to keep the motors Stateside, but those machinations were too clever by half, which is why Milwaukee got only the twelve. The Russian Decapod story has a second act, yes, the final lot that never shipped out didn't ship out after Lenin's crew took over the country. But then another couple thousand to the same plans went over during the War as lend-lease. It's mostly those from the second set still doing preservation work in Russia, that is, if there's any railway preservation going on there any more.
@MilwaukeeF40C
11 ай бұрын
I had read on a forum that there's a kickass steam shop in Russia. Government subsidized.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
6 ай бұрын
@@SHKarlsonthere are a lot that have been plinthed.
But did you catch the Electroliner puttering about?
If you were able to raise the catenary voltage 15kv 16.7hz AC then you can tug of war GG1 PRR Little Joe and a West German Deutsche Bundesbahn Baureihe 150 Krokodil Baureihe 193 alt & Baureihe 194 in tug of war. For the West German locomotives you need the ones that have AAR couplers held by a pin like a British Class 91 IC225 locomotive for the hook slots that way the West German locomotives are coupled to each other against the GG1 Little Joe while on the other track you have AEM-7 vs a West German Deutsche Bundesbahn Baureihe 110.3 111 103 or 120 locomotives passenger loco tug of war.
@rearspeaker6364
10 ай бұрын
the crock would rip both of them down the track from a standstill, but the gg1 and toaster could do 90 plus. can't drag a crock past 40.
@EpicThe112
10 ай бұрын
@@rearspeaker6364 You mean the West German 193/194 which were used by the US Army for the Berlin-Frankfurt/Bremen trains the last car being the Caboose
The "Little Joe," the GG1, and the "Little Volvo" look in great shape. If it wasn't for the Union RR Museum, these locomotives might not have survived for us to see them.
Are they trying to run the gg1
@versedbridge4007
Жыл бұрын
I wish
@csxnspittsburghdivision8580
Жыл бұрын
@versedbridge4007 why do there don't run them there? They will get more money
@seand7894
Жыл бұрын
@csxpittsburghdivision8580 The museum runs on 600-odd-volt DC current. The GG-1s ran on over 11,000 Volts of AC. I've been in the GG-1 here, and internally, it's in extremely rough condition. Most/all of the surviving GG-1s have had the electronics removed for abatement of the PCB oils inside. Short of Gutting and rebuilding them with modern transformer and electronics, they'll never run again. And that doesn't even address the severe frame fatigue and cracking that they all suffered from in the last decade of service. If you look at any GG-1 you'll find goobers of weld repairs all of the frames that only ever lasted as short-term fixes.
@csxnspittsburghdivision8580
Жыл бұрын
@@seand7894 okay
@rearspeaker6364
Жыл бұрын
@@seand7894 Unfortunately, that is correct. easier to build a new GG-1, and throw the guts of a AEM-7 inside it, but who has 20 million to do that??....and to add, the politics to let amtrak to run it on the NEC?
The little interurban 803 is bigger than the GG1.