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Souped-Up 1958 General Electric Automatic Washer
I took the original Motor, Clutch and Pump out of the machine and replaced them with 21st century components. I added a new 3-phase motor, variable frequency drive (VFD) to run the motor, separate electric pumps for Filter-flo and drain, relays to communicate the original 1958 timer with the new motor drive and also added an unbalanced load sensor.
For more info on this machine please see this thread on automaticwasher.org...
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I'm a retried Hotpoint engineer from the UK. I an impressed and green with envy. 😀
Beautiful washer. My mom had the older 1956 model. Worked great for years. I threw a sock in it while it was spinning the repair man had to take the whole thing apart. It worked perfectly for years after that.
@mauromazzoncini5711
Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing to my mum's Hotpoint top loader in the UK, except it was action man uniform, boy did I get he'll 😂😂 a new pump was needed as it jammed it all up, and the slip clutch came flying off ...OOPS 😊
@kevinunsworth-kq1uo
3 ай бұрын
What a great washing machine, well done for the transformation you achieved on that beauty.
There was a cartoon character my daughters used to watch in the 80’s called “The Shredder”. This machine could easily have that nickname. Fascinating all the work you did.
The colors are magnificent.❤
You were able to re engineer this machine because its built like a tank ,todays stuff would fly out the window if you did this to them ..interesting what you did, you obviously knew what you were doing 👍
That's an incredible upgrade on vintage engineering.
What a fantastic upgrade!! I love the way the paddle knocks the bejaysus outa those sheets!! 💪🤣🤣
Super genius. I wish you would build them for sale. Now if u can add an heating element so the water can get up to 95c or 190f be great
@Kubulek17
5 жыл бұрын
Simone Martini not on American voltages . They’d have to use a dryer connection to heat to such high temps and it’s would take forever with the vast amount of water it uses. Not to mention the electric bill
@simonemartini3017
5 жыл бұрын
@@Kubulek17 I know the whole thing is rediculus
@dualactionwisewater3256
4 жыл бұрын
Ooh it could work . Just like the older machines in the UK same tub sizes so it's not a problem with a 220 line and a hefty calrod .
That 140 oscillations per minute will the clean the skit marks right off!
Drogi Przyjacielu Życzę Ci Dużo Zdrowia I Radośći Oraz Miliarda Fanów Na KZread 4:09
Mom bought a GE set in 1968 and the washer lasted 20 years with heavy usage with a family of 6.
That thing is AMAZING!!!! Now if only they made something like this so we could purchase it!
@treystewart544
4 жыл бұрын
SaturnMist09 that washer motor sounds like a Ford F-250 6.0 powerstroke
Love that style machine and especially that "paddle" type agitator. Reminds me of my Grandmother's 1953 or 1954 GE pre filter Flo. What a incredible upgrade. Genius.
Your video really makes me miss my very first GE laundry pair. I bought the top of the line, extra large capacity model with all the bells, whistles, lights and push buttons. It was beautiful. It had chrome everywhere on the control panel and on the main control knob. Both washer and dryer lit up all the way across the top. It had the mini wash basket and filter ring that fit on top of it. I paid around twelve hundred dollars for the pair, but It was worth every penny. That was in 1973. I used them for fifteen years and never had any kind of a problem. I let the pair go with the house when I sold it in 1988. They don’t build them like that anymore. I ran into the couple that bought the house a couple of years later, and they said that both washer and dryer were still going strong. What a great video. I would love to have your know how so that I could build myself a super washer. I have Speed Queen pair now that I bought new in 2014. So far so good. Only time will tell what kind of service the pair will give me.
@jacktattis143
5 жыл бұрын
Charles My son has a GE pair up in the shed Generation I think thy are
Love It,Really Cool Upgrades The High Speed Means Business
Would it be possible to connect this machine to IoT (smart home, household automation etc.) without ruining its original mechanical timer feature? (If the timer has a "fast forward" solenoid, it's technically possible to electrically turn it into any preset notches by overriding the timer motor and the fast forward solenoid with two relays and a MCU. Or an external stepper motor can be hooked up to the knob for remote operation)
One thing is for sure, you have very clean clothes at the end of the wash. I love what you did to the machine.
wow talk about warp speed Robert the entire refit is incredible My hat's off to you Robert the world could use more highly intelligent men like you.
How cool! Great to see you making videos again.
That is one heck of a power boost for agitation!!!
That's awesome ! And it's so quiet.
this should become the new standard! winner!
What a super and interesting job you did. I really enjoy seeing this machine in action, keep up the great work.
Thrilled to see you posting!
This is delightful! Thank you for sharing.
1:09 i originally thought the gurgling was just the noise the agitator made since it's agitating at about the same "tempo" of the gurgling, but then when you lowered the agitation speed, i got creeped out. but then i looked at the filter flo spout and noticed it was shifting at the same frequency as the gurgling, so now i guess the original pump would sound like that when being driven in the agitate direction with no water in the tub
2:56 Oh my goodness.
Do the old ones not sway? The basket on my 2000s washing machine bangs around if not properly balanced. That basket on the old maytag looks solid with no sway...I want it so bad
That is so impressive. I'm surprised you never went into industrial design or engineering
Good to see you back.
This.. Is.. Awesome.. Congratulations dude.
Wow I am very impressed well done
Beautiful machine
Freaking amazing washer.. Wish they started making washer like this again instead of the H E crap today that don't get your clothes clean... Awesome machine..
Nice work modifying!
Wait so the tub indexing was a thing back then?
Well done I like it very much.
That is so cool. Love the video.
I miss this type of clothes washer which uses a decent amount of water, and has the water filter at the top. I used to be able to put in children’s grassy clothes and the grass would get collected by the top filter. Now washer don’t use enough water and do not filter out things.
With the inner tube "indexing" like that don't the clothes get tied up in knots? Did the drum brake fail?
Don't pay attention to the haters like T Capone. You did a great job
Thanks for the great video
Can I pay you to re-design my filter flo? Me and my husband have one at our summer home. I have a mid 1980s machine the clutch is worn but it still cleans even with the annoying noise. I was concerned about asbestos in the clutch and I’m afraid to replace it even after buying a brand new clutch for it. Would it be best to just abandon the old system entirely and upgrade it like yours. This is flawless !!! I want mine to operate this well, without the worry of dust ! I swear this thing ommits some kind of smell but it’s metallic so it’s prob just the clutch housing wearing away
That washer sounds like a Ford f250 6.0 powerstroke
23:23 1150 rpm (fast as Frigidaire Unimatic)
although these modifications are nice, i wish the machine had a drain before spin like the early westinghouse washers
@automaticwasher
8 ай бұрын
This is a solid tub washer, meaning the only way to get water out of the tub is by centrical force which throws it over the top of the tub. There are no holes/perforations in the tub below the top rim. Besides I don't like neutral drain washers as it sifts the dirt and silt through the clothes if the tub just sits still during pump out.
@TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
8 ай бұрын
@@automaticwasher oh
Wow!!!🤩
Looks more like a blender ready to pulverize clothes!
This is so cool.
This video isn't as old as I thought. My parents had an 80s era FilterFlow. What was the ocilation on an 80s as compared to this model?
very impressive Robert with your high level of mechanical knowledge there isn't anything you cannot do to improve on any machines. I think someone should have you come into these companies and figure out how to make this new age junk work with a little bit more water, and be able to clean clothes nowadays.
mate my son has 5 US washers 110volt 60 Hz and needs to convert them to run on 220v 50 hz. Do you know where he can buy a Frequency Converter over there. He did have step down transformers but the cycles are too long and doing damage to the Motors
@thomasstevens6441
2 жыл бұрын
Can you find a 50 hz timer for it?
This is amazing
I forgot about the lint catcher !
I would like to see this done to a 70's or 80's Whirlpool belt drive washer.
@jacktattis143
5 жыл бұрын
Jim I think it would throw the belt off
Awesome
R u sure those components are designed to spin at twice its intended speed?
@dualactionwisewater3256
4 жыл бұрын
In a word ...Yes ! ✨🔻
Hey, are some of your videos being removed? I could swear there were more.
It feels weird seeing a load of sheets with no air pockets
Great machine! Back when people took pride in their work! Not so much now. Today’s stuff is pure garbage.
Hello My son brought back 5 machines from the US to Australia but when he used the step down Transformer [we are 240 volts 50 hz] The machines took 20/30 minutes between cycles. Much too long. Do you know what he may have to do, to get them working properly He is a collector and these Five are in excellent condition
@jacktattis143
5 жыл бұрын
cont: Not GE machines Norge, Kenmore Frigidare Maytag?
@DeansWasherVideos
4 жыл бұрын
I know you posted this a while ago so you may have already found this out, but stepping the voltage down is the easy part. To make them operate normally you also need to step the frequency up from 50 to 60hz which the transformer will not do. That's the hard part. It would be very difficult and expensive to get that equipment I believe. I know in maytags they have 50 or 60hz pulleys so they could be switched out to correct the transmission speed but won't correct the timer motor speed. I have often thought about bringing one of my favourite Fisher and Paykel mechanical washers from New Zealand to Canada where I have moved to, but can't find a simple solution to change the frequency from here 60hz to 50hz which it needs, as in my case everything will run faster than designed, not slower, as it's the reverse of your case. Let me know if that makes sense!
@thomasstevens6441
2 жыл бұрын
Changing the voltage frequency also changes the timing of how fast the timer runs, thus slowing down the machine. Not much can be done about that.
I subscribed ! Are you an electrical engineer ?
you were suppose to replace the motor with a PSC type motor, that's what they use in the new units now...
1150 rpm or 105 kmph
GE could do something like this!
1150 rpm waooo a normal actually washer spin at 800 rpm
@automaticwasher
2 жыл бұрын
No normal for this machine is 625rpm
make this in another washer!!!!
Hey Robert!!!!! Remember when you used to come down to Central Washer Service to buy parts
@automaticwasher
5 жыл бұрын
I sure do, it was a wonderfully cool place. Ron was a great guy, miss those days sometimes.
My Grandma Had A G.E. Machine But It Was A 1954
The only thing not cool about this mod are the China Pride parts you probably used to make it. They don't last more than five years most of the time in the machines they come from.
@JBF-GST-Tanda
6 ай бұрын
If you use an oversized one e.g. 2.5hp VFD for 1.5hp motor, it'll last much longer.
Darn LOL
No reason for such aggressive agitation. For the few times you might wash something really bulky I would just go to a laundromat and use a big front loader. Your going to end up blowing the transmission and bearings.
@dualactionwisewater3256
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry you got the wrong perception and way off base...out if your league Rosey Ross. 🥴🙄🤪 Sorry your just wronG.🤷🔻 Hey Robert ! EXCELLENG👏 ENGINEERING!!!👌 Fantastic and Classic Quality GE !!! 👍 GE HAIER: PLEASE TAKE NOTE IF YOU CAN GET OVER YOUR embarrassing suspension systems of your 2 ND generation none rinsing washers. 2020. Please get back to QUALITY since you bought out this division. Your making a ass out of and American product. Like your Agitators . But your suspension sucks. And that empty tub with clothes in it causing a unbalanced unnecessary out of balanced loads. Who was your wash program engineer aaah a millennial. 🤪🙄 Get back at the table HAIER FOLKS.🤷🖐️😌 OUTSTANDING GE WASHER !👍 @nd beautiful !!! Robert ! ~~~~😄🔻✨
They don't make them like they used to. The last 20 years they've been making pure junk with a big high dollar on it. And they break down them after a few years. And they don't clean the clothes either. The old girl can still dance 😂
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The only thing you accomplished was to take a great machine and devalue and drop the quality down to poor. What a shame.
@dualactionwisewater3256
5 жыл бұрын
Just Like your mouth ! Unbelievable people who does not do a thing sits on there perch and criticizes someone who has changed lives of hundreds of folk.😉 Absolutely incredibly outstanding Robert ! Thank you for all of what you do ! Love yaa !🔛® Darren🔹