The reel to reel tape sounds the best as expected. Excellent tape deck.

My favorite part of this video i that you happened to choose an album that was recorded COMPLETELY DIGITALLY. I know for a fact that it was cut on a Sony 3323 24 track digital DASH system reel to reel machine. People love to drool over this album and how great it sounds on vinyl when it was never analog until it was TRANSFERRED to disc bu using a cutting lathe. But hey have fun.

@alanrogs3990

5 ай бұрын

everyone knows this

@gustercc

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it’s not like this was an unknown thing by people most likely to click on this video. What the real question is: why choose the miles showell half speed over the mofi cut, which is light years better than the abbey road?

@ET2carbon

3 ай бұрын

That was actually smart to go with a digital track, for to the fact it would have less artifacts of recording medium degradation or playback flaws wow flutter drift blah blah. You can get an idea of the difference between RPM and IPS as well as pitch consistency; starting with the same digital content assuming they both had the same input from the DASH masters... you can also hear what mediums capture the spectrum more accurately or pleasantly. You can hear the fidelity and timbre and tone changes by starting with a digital source... for these reasons, it's better to start with a digital source audio recorded digitally to a timecode with solid timing clk source to quartz or cesium or whatever they might have used rather than doing this comparison using an original tape or original vinyl. It would be interesting to test the DASH PCM to a forensic analysis of that compared to an original tape to original press vinyl. Just to really see time's effects on the things I mentioned and not only to test the medium itself but the accuracy of present day playback machines compared to old technologies used in playback machines. For instance, tape speeds, needle cartridges, reel clamps, degaussing, brushes, tubes, opamps, transistors, ICs, processors, etc. This is the stuff I wish would be in science museums, but youtube and rumble are all we got for the tech nerds.

@jgannon1637

2 ай бұрын

You've never had a tape that just got more of a subtly marinated sound that changes over time? Doesn't matter if it was recorded from digital, it's clocking/cadence is always a bit different because it's atomic rather than integer maths. Rotaries vs traffic lights. Lol.

@RUfromthe40s

21 күн бұрын

to me the first time i put it to play being used to high quality sound in any prior album this sounded strange, as some sound dull and other sound very good but diferent from eachother

I didn't realise at the time that home open reels were eventually ditched in favour of cassette tapes not in favour of quality but convenience ,I remember when I was a kid I was given a reel to reel tape recorder and the sound quality blew me away, really full warm sound . I think a lot of people are missing out on their vinyl because it has to be played on good quality equipment to achieve the proper result . A vinyl can only be as good as the tape it was cut or pressed from I would have thought ? Listening to this through a phone the vinyl is definetly clearer .

Tape has so much more body. Definitely like it better in these examples:)

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

I totally agree!

@Yoda8945

5 ай бұрын

Tape adds distortion and saturation that can be pleasing to the ear.The effect is very dramatic and many digital masters are run through tape and back to digital to obtain that effect. The effect became so popular that companies have built digital equipment designed to mimc the effect without the bother and expense of keeping tape and machines continuously aligned. The Crane Song HEDD is such a device. Recording to tape also tends to boost lower frequencies and that also is generally pleasing.

The tape sounded better - probably because the level was higher. That old trick of turning up the volume in hifi demonstrations would certainly work on me if I had the cash to splash. Nice looking toys to play with!

@chrisantoniou4366

5 ай бұрын

An old trick which we used to make sure our customers were aware of! Before making comparisons between amplifiers we would make sure the volume was the same for both by playing a one kHz tone and equalizing both amps first. This made the difference between amps clear and obvious.

@silviosarunic6709

5 ай бұрын

Tape sounds ALWAYS better because vinyl is CREATED from master tapes….

@chrisantoniou4366

5 ай бұрын

@@silviosarunic6709 Generally speaking, tape MAY sound better than vinyl, but it depends on what generation tape the recording was made from, the quality of the tape player it's being played back on, how well it was copied, and so on. Certainly a master tape played back on the original recording machine (everything else being equal) will sound better than vinyl no matter how good the transfer is because it's a generation better, but making a blanket statement that tape "always" sounds better than vinyl is a bit simplistic. And don't forget there are some "direct to disc" vinyl records out there too...

@RUfromthe40s

21 күн бұрын

the sound being higher in volume isn´t related with quality but only a lower volume

@RUfromthe40s

21 күн бұрын

@@silviosarunic6709 this aren´t master tapes but copy´s as the vinyl matrix is done to be reproduced in several factory´s, and studio reels have a bigger tape section, but still the perfect copy

That must be a $10,000+ turntable. For a fair comparison, the open reel deck should be a half-track professional or semi-professional machine running at 15 ips. The Pioneer RT-909 is a beautiful machine, and reasonably capable, but for the same price as that turntable, you can get an even more impressive open reel deck. But I don't chase the dragon. I have a sizable collection of different open reel machines from low-end to semi-professional. I collect them just because I love all the different ways that manufacturers designed them. And I have five different turntables, but none of them are anywhere near the level of yours. Anyway, lovely system! Enjoy! That's the most important thing. That's what we should all do. We only need to impress and satisfy ourselves! 😎👍

@gustercc

5 ай бұрын

That’s sounds like a great collection.

@waltwimer2551

5 ай бұрын

@@gustercc Thanks! It's grown WAY beyond my wildest dreams... 😳😎👍 Many of them are still patiently waiting for me to service/restore them. One of these days!

Tapes sounding smooth and friendly 👌🏻

Jacob, nice walk down memory lane! I’ve run the gamut from vinyl, cassettes, 8 Tracks, reel, CD’s, etc. I’m a little long in the tooth now…now using my A&K SP3000 with my Sennheiser HD800’s and Audio 64 U12T’s. Sound and high res is amazing.

Reel to reel ,s were so cool to look at.

I think a better test for this would be to have a prerecorded reel tape recorded at 7.5 ips and have the same vinyl recording of the same thing and test it that way. I have some old rerecorded reel tapes that I think are superior to vinyl recordings of the same thing. Don't get me wrong, they're both really good formats, but I think that the reel to reel tape has a little more detail in the recording. The microphone picking up both recordings vs. going direct line out is also an uneven match. Sound quality is subjective to the listener. We all have varying opinions and like I said at the beginning, I had the album and tape of the same thing and the tape won for me.

@jeffharper410

5 ай бұрын

Yep, I agree . 7.5 ips Recorded lable on a Studer R2R is unbeatable.

@gdavisloop

4 ай бұрын

Tape has no crackle & pop and for the most-part, never wears. Tape does have a slight-to-moderate hiss. IMO, any 7.5ips pre-recorded tape will blow-away the sound of an LP... especially if they are both 50 years old!

@jeffharper410

4 ай бұрын

@gdavisloop As a guy who grew up in audio and has owned R2R tape, miles of prerecorded reels and small studio recordings. I can say with certainty. Magnetic tape devopes ghosting after 3 or 4 decades. Between songs and in very quiet passages, you will hear music from the next loop in the reel. Tape will magneticly pick up from the loops above and below it over time. It's not super loud, but it's there. Believe me, I have rolled miles of old tape. Mylar is the best stuff , celluloid is the worst for it. As far as records, if handled carefully, cleaned and zapped with a zero Stat gun. And you have a good nude elliptical styles set up right. Records can sound very good. Being I am crowding 60 . I have gone to high rez streaming. With a good player and the right DAC , my 2A3 mono blocks are more resolving than my near 60 year old ears. Every medium has its advantages and disadvantages. Even 16 track mastertapes deteriorate over time. Enjoy what ever format you choose . If you are happy and your toe is tapping along , it's working for you. Try new things ,but don't overthink it. If it sounds good and you're enjoying your listening sessions, it's a win.

IMHO, "Best" of anything is in the ear of the beholder. I have a pretty good vinyl playback setup (MC cart), as well as a TEAC X1000R R2R deck (w/ onboard dbx NR), and even a Pioneer CT-F1250 cassette (restored). With good source material, all 3 formats sound amazingly good.

Brothers in arms was my first cd purchase, back when it came out. After purchasing my first CD player. I already had the LP. I never owned reel to reel, but used vhs hi fi to record cds borrowed from friends. Before recordable cd/dvds came out.

The tape are punchier. Vinyls has added compression to avoid the needle jumping all over the place. In addition you have the RIIA correction degrading the sound.

@davidwald2938

4 ай бұрын

Wouldn't that compression be transferred to tape when recording an album with r2r? Or are you referring to strictly the old pre-recorded tapes? Curious if the playback is different in the r2r electronics it can capture better dynamics off the vinyl or if the vinyl would not have greater dynamics intrinsically due to being compressed when cut from the lathe.

@ingekvam324

4 ай бұрын

@@davidwald2938 What I'm refering to is the extra compression that's added in the engraving process of the vinyl master. The master tape has it's natural comression, but the cutting process adds even more which makes the vinyl less dynamic than the tape. They used to sell expanders for the purpose of bringing back some of the dynamic range on vinyls in the 70's.

@davidwald2938

4 ай бұрын

I see now. Thanks so much for explaining. That's interesting about the expander. I had never heard of that device.

It's a bit hard to tell which is better when YT compresses the audio down. That, and Brothers In Arms is one of those albums that was made for CD, which is why the original 1985 CD release is the best sounding version.

@RUfromthe40s

21 күн бұрын

agreed 100%, youtube comparisons are made but doesn´t sound as the real equipment as some were done with components i use for decades

The tape has better lows, bass is better witout losing the treble detail. I like most the tape.

I miss my old Teac reel to reel. They were always so crisp😊

The set up and equipment you use has everything to do with the end results, like the universe, I am constantly trying to tweak it again and again. It’s not about listening to the equipment but extracting the maximum from your music

Reel-to-reel is what ALL records started as before 1974 when "digital" recording began on videotape. I have 30-45 15 IPS reel-to-reel tapes made from the mixing masters I paid up to $600 1970's and 80's dollars for. Most are FOUR CHANNEL, not two-channel "stereo". They blow CD's away, with wider dynamic range, better frequency response, and NOT being digitized. My BEST one is "Days of Future Passed" by the Moody Blues. Decca created their Deram division JUST for "QUAD". I own over 700 "QUAD" LP's too. The recording engineer on DoFP had some real fun bouncing the sound around the channels. My Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" 4 channel R-T-R sounds VASTLY different than the two-channel mix. The most expensive tape I have? Janis Joplin live at the Cotton Bowl during the Texas State Fair. I was there when she was in concert with Big Brother and the Holding Company and sang the duet with Kris Kristofferson on "Bobby McGee".

@aintitso6310

5 ай бұрын

This is really cool! I've been studying recording processes and have been interested in getting a 70's silver cassette deck. Any chance you have video upload of one of these reel-to-reels?

@owlnswan4016

4 ай бұрын

There was no quad when Deram began, nor when that album was first made and released. Deram was a place for Decca to release their recordings done with a set of recording techniques which their engineers developed for a natural, lifelike stereo image and final sound, beginning in 1966. DAYS OF FUTURE PASSED was an outlet for these techniques to be used in that genre of music, which to a degree was pioneered by that album. It was mixed into quad for release in 1972. It's very nicely done, no question. As far as the stereo versions go, while the remix done by the original engineer in 1978 - when they already heard degradation in the original mix and ordered a new replacement mix - is clean and fine and whatever, it can't touch how great the original 1967 stereo mix is. I have a flat digital copy of what is claimed to be either from the original stereo master with the dropouts fixed digitally but otherwise straight off the master or from an analog copy made flat off the master when it was in good condition and transferred to digital straight. Whichever is true, it sounds truly beautiful and magical. Even with the tape bounces done in the non-orchestral recordings, it's still a great achievement in how good a recording can sound. The mono was a fold down of the original stereo mix.

both are the best formats still available ,i used to record records into reels this when buying an Lp was a really hard thing to do ,if it weren´t records from françoise Ardi or Umberto tozzi , but having the record i do prefer to hear records ,the reels are perfect way to record music ,entire Lp´s or compilations ,being the last the one i do most and sometimes i do record cassettes . I´ve tried CD-R´s and minidiscs but st5ill enjoy more the reel deck wich i have 3 and the oldest one in this moment is a AKAI X-165D bought in 1970 ,and only records ferric tapes, having better sound than most of the cassette decks, this album is a bit strange some songs seemed recorded in diferent studios with diferent producers but is only one of the first records recorded digitally, one can hear the first two albums and notuice a much higher quality in sound ,after all they do sound the same here, only a diference in volume which is normal in vinyl records

I had two of the best RTR recorders at the time. Technics RS 1500 US. They had the best high end response, well over 25K Hz! As of today, these machines can be found for well over what I paid for my machines, $ 1000.00 each then, over $3000.00 today when you can find them

The Tape gave birth to the vinyl Lp, so if you ask me , I truly believe that there's not much difference in the aural response with the exception of hiss from tape and pops and clicks from vinyl

Both sounds amazing, but tape it has it's extra quality.

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@krwd

6 ай бұрын

yes, no wow and flutter and rumble inherent problems on belt driven turntables

@davidwald2938

5 ай бұрын

​@@krwdMy belt driven turntable has big time rumble issue so I have to set it on the floor and use rumble reduction on my phono preamp which works well. Sorry to hear tape has rumble as well. Heard about wow and flutter before. I wanted to use open reel as a turntable alternative in my vintage system and was hoping the rumble issue would be resolved. Oh well, I guess only digital resolves rumble completely but hopefully r2r has less than my turntable

I have not used a r2r in years but i can still remember how quiet and accurate they are. Vinyl has its good points and love the sound from a good turntable. I bought some classical music cassette tapes off of Ebay And I was surprised at the quality of the sound on a JVC cassette deck. Not so many problems as with a turntable and cassettes are portable. you can bounce down a rocky road and never miss a beat on a in dash cassette tape deck. I dare you to try that with a turntable. R2R and cassette give superior sound quality. And lastly you can jerk the cassette out of your car and play it in the house or stick it in your cd/cassette boom box and get great sound. with tape cassettes. the latest tape decks which are miniature R2R decks are so sophisticated that you can get. Forget lugging around a R2R and go cassette tape deck and you get the best of both worlds.

Thanks for the video. Was the microphone in the same position on both recordings? That Tascam recorder his line in inputs that would help this. If you did use the inputs, are the microphones automatically turned off. I've never used one. Looks like a pretty handy device. I could hear the sound reflections in the room more on the vinyl capture then the tape capture. Despite all that, the vinyl sounded more open in the high end. The tape had more presence.

Anyone that can tell the difference, well done.....Neither can I. Not through the audio of KZread which is limited at best !

To my ears, you lose a bit off the top end when transferred to the reels. This coukd be the tape formulation. But mids and low end still sound really good, as does the stereo image. I have used HIFI VCR's in the past, and got amazing results from recordings.

The tape sound better, but I wonder where the recording from. Is it from the vinyl or from studio master tapes, I used to have such equipment. Most audio enthusiast use to make recording from vinyl

Me no understand? Where was the reel to reel recording from? Didn't sound level matched? But that could be just me. I will stick to digital versions thanks though 😉

I have a 40yr old Linn Sondeck, a home made amp(with an on/off button, a pair of 60yr old B&A 120w p/c speakers and a pair of 50yr old Wharfdale 100w p/c studio monitors, in my "den", which produce the crispest, clearest sound you'll ever hear! I've had numerous sound engineers from several different record companies/recording studios who've heard offered to buy my "setup" for tens of thousands of £'s! but money cannot buy these separates, so they'll remain in my home til I die! .......

Reel to Reel for me for sound quality 👌

Yes, the volume on the reel to reel was higher, making it difficult to tell which sounded better. If you played the Carpenters I may be able to tell.

I had the 909 and it’s next to impossible to tell the source vs tape, if using high quality tape of course.

Not sure what you have going on but my original print album sounds like your reel to reel but my r2r sounds great to

That looks like 7.5 IPS speed on the tape (I own an R2R that does 15 IPS so I spotted it right away). But even at 7.5 IPS it sounds better than the vinyl record! It has been said by other commenters that 15 IPS would have been a nicer comparison and I agree - still I find it funny that even the 7.5 IPS still sounded better (more fuller if that makes sense) than the vinyl.

This is interesting 😊 !

Proving?

I think that the vinyl experience is enhanced by the electroacoustic effect of the turntable vs. amplification & room ambience. Yet, despite that, I prefer reel-to-reel over the two. (But I prefer live music, when possible.)

@RUfromthe40s

8 ай бұрын

i do prefer having the band playing in my living room but having not the possibility of having all artists coming to my house, i do like both formats. I have a DAT deck which is digital but a high quality source only expensive to mantain and expensive to buy new DAT cassettes, after all i would prefer vinyl as it´s fashion to say now against reords or discs ,in the past vinyl was the cover of car dashes or women especial dresses

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

Good point!

Odd that you should choose a digitally recorded album for this test. Surely a lossless digital transfer from the master would offer the best sound quality (at least for this digital recording)

@hermanmunster3358

5 ай бұрын

Where you gonna get one of those?

Where is the reel to reel tape recording sourced from? Also is it smart to have subwoofer so close to the turntable ?

@marknachmias423

Ай бұрын

It would have been nice if that information was provided.

Why would you choose a digital recording (Brothers in Arms) to compare two analogue media ?

bybthe way ,nice turntable, i thought of buying to myself a transrotor but other priorities appear and have already very good turntables so i might buy one in a year at the most

Years ago a hear a compareson between Belafontes Carnegie Hall Concert old Living Stereo on VPI-Turntable and Mastertapes on ASC-Open Reel: The Tape has won. But the Tapes are super-rare…

Reel to reel just looks better all around

The sound of a pioneer reel to reel is so so, I would use a Revox B77

Comes down to where and how they sourced the vinyl vs the tape and how many generations removed from the master not to mention whatever tinkering and EQing was done in each case. Very often records were made from safety copies several generations removed from the master while reel tapes were either made direct from the master or second generation copies. There are simply too many unknowns and other variables to judge one medium over another.

@keithfallon-norris9570

5 ай бұрын

Source material was digital, so should be bit perfect when cut to vinyl, the big issue is the quality of the d/a converter used for vinyl and the tape, where they same ?

I love the vinyl sounds, more flat and real...

How was the tape mastered and recorded? No clue given. Not a valid comparison without knowing

The tape adds too much inaccurate sloppy bottom end , but that could be the biasing and tape type .. The Vinyl is pretty well spot on and very accurate regardless of the big exaggerated bottom end … Personally I like HD 20 bit Digital ,, the dynamics are absolutely incredible and frequencies are beautifully separated ..

All vinyl records have been "processed" using compression and RIAA curves to help the sound seem more open. Tape does not have the processing. Some records were recorded directly from mixers. They really expensive, maybe $10.00 haha. Not even a good down payment today.

@larsdela9323

5 ай бұрын

Tape has either NAB or CCIR equalization, which is basically just another equalization, just like RIAA correction. In both cases it is to compensate for the physical properties of their respective medias. So not much difference there...

Although both recording media (LPs and open-reel magnetic tapes) are analogue means of recording music, they cannot be directly compared. This is because in the production of the matrix that will be used in pressing the LPs, in addition to the RIAA equalization, which eliminates the sub-bass contained in the master tape, removing their weight, the "punch", several steps follow the cutting of the acetate, each one of them causing small changes, which will be noticed when playing a copy of the disc. Direct comparison would only be possible if the same content of the master tape could be recorded directly onto the vinyl record (LP) that will be reproduced. Professional recordings made on the best equipment, using open-reel magnetic tapes, are the definitive reference in terms of analogue music recording. LPs are the appropriate means for recording music to remain permanent; We can safely say that an LP produced with the best technique and the best materials lasts more than 100 years. Tapes, even if very well stored, rarely reach half this age without significant loss of recording quality, especially of high-pitched sounds.

Reel-to-reel offers better frequency responses. Sure, it sounds better. If it didn't, large-format tape wouldn't have been used to record laquer masters for vinyl. Unfortunately, and especially today, it is also the most expensive fomat. Finding a machine that works, whose recording/playback heads aren't ruined, not to mention tuning the motor back to factory specs is one expensive aspect. Finding tape manufactured by the big labels that isn't degraded magnetically is another aspect but I'm certain it can be had - for a price. Tape recorded at home on small-format media has something like the issue you have with CDs we used to burn. Commerical CDs and their digital info are pressed, not burned. There's a reason why CDs have never been a viable storage solution. Audio tape that's properly recorded and stored on large-format media can be used for new "digitally mastered" vinyl. Small-format media? The difference in audio quality isn't that far removed from vinyl. Vinyl, if properly stored and handled, can give years of listening pleasure. I have Shellac that still sounds awesome. I have Shellac that was recorded acoustically over 100 years ago that sounds, well, like it was recorded acoustically through a big recording horn but the point is, I can still listen to it and on period gramophones/phonographs. I'll stick with vinyl, knowing I wouldn't turn-down a restored Pioneer 707 or 909 but also knowing I'd never likely have the music collection on tape that I have on vinyl and shellac and *never knowing* fully whether the tapes I might collect are in good shape or not when I'm buying them - with a few exceptions, you can usually tell if the record is in good shape althought I have a Miles Davis from the early 70s that I bought in Germany and good heavens - it looks "good," sounds absolutely awful. That's the exception, not the rule.

Somehow the turn table gives feeling of being there, whereas reel give feeling of sound in a sound room. Both are badAss

Reel to Reel for me on a pair of B&W's.

Reel to reel......the most expensive expensive way to record music! I use to have a Teac 3340S deck and the less expensive 10" reels were sky high, especially with metal reels. Digital Mp3's and flac put them out of business.....but the high end reel decks are certainty are eye candy.....

Reel to reel clear winner

A general comparison is not feasible. The turntable plays depending on the phono card you use while the tape is read and played without any modification. The best mathematical quality absolutely belongs to the tape

Tape here sounds better. But reality is that these modern high-end belt-drive turntables doesn`t really sound so good. They are just expensive to buy. Most vintage direct-drive turntables would blew them away in terms of sound and speed stability.

Sound of reel to reel is louder than vinyl. If volume up when listen to vinyl, both sound are almost the same.

I can't tell the difference on my laptop speakers. Both sound great. However, it looks cooler on the reel to reel.

It's so difficult to compare two types of music carrier when they are both well short of the best sound possible from them. If you were to compare a direct to disc recording on a 45 or 78 rpm vinyl record on heavy grade virgin vinyl and a top of the line turntable, cartridge and head amp, to a direct to 15 ips stereo half inch tape on a mastering recorder with the same equalization or no equalization as the vinyl disc, then you might be able to make a definitive evaluation of the sound quality from both. As it is, the reel to reel sounded better to my ears, but as I say, not everything was equal...

@joaodepaivaandrade715

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. That's what I commented on 01/07/2024, before reading your observation.

This proves why I don’t go over 128kbps MP3 files - the only way I could tell a difference is that pop switching between the formats. Otherwise, I hear no difference.

@cataclem28

6 ай бұрын

On yt be shure of that😂

This is not a reasonable comparison because the sound of vinyl is not a reasonable source material. A better comparison would be take a live recording and transfer it simultaneously to vinyl and tape at the same time. I have heard original Reel- Reel masters and the vinyl recordings made from them. The vinyl duplicate a pale imitation of the Reel Master.. The piece was Mancini's Peter Gunn. The original recording would make their stand up at theback of your neck. Vinyl was a veil over the sound. I did record vinyl records to reels because I did not want the degradation that came with multiple playing of the vinyl record, plus I wanted more than 20 minutes of music uninterrupted.

Вообще красавчик😇

Dumb question. Are you recording from vinyl or cd? Or something all together different. How can recording from a source improve things. Keep it simple please

Gerard Stroh*** Jacob RC!!! The Record Sounded Fine But The Tape Was Not A Equal Test Because Those Masters That Go into Vinyl Record Pressing Are Recorded at 15ips or 30ips Tape Speed and The Tape is 1/4 + 1/2 + 1 inch Masters on 2 Channels Using the Whole Width of the Tape and What I Saw Was Not A Studio Master Reel to Reel Tape Machines and What it Shows A Pioneer 909 Auto Reverse Home Reel to Reel Tape Machine Playing the Tape at 7 1/2 ips Tape Speed and the Track Format is 1 Quarter Track and I Have 4 Mastering Reel to Reel Tape Machines and I have A 1967 Ampex AG440 4 Track Half inch Tape Machine and the tope Recording Speed is 15ips Tape Speed and it is All Class A Electronics and That Deck Came out of A Big Recording Studio And The Sound of that Tape Deck Comes Close to A Studer C37 or any of the Studer Tape Machines and My 2 Teacs A3440 4 Track Machines are Master Tape Machines Too that Record at 15 ips tape Speed and I also Have A Otari MX5050Mk2 Half of Track Master Reel to Reel Tape Machine and All of these Tape Decks are Used in A Recording Studio!!!! I know I am A Recording Studio Guy and Audiophile But I only Use Tape Decks are Pro Audio only and I use to use A Slower Tape Speed But I perfer Higher Tape Speed and I Use the Whole Width of the Tape and I Took My Remix of All things Must Pass Full Album and Make My Own Masters and it Took Up 8 10 inch Reel to Reel Tapes Recorded at 15 ips Tape Speed and it Sounds Killer!!!! I also Mastered My Remix of John Lennon's Imagine Album on Reel to Reel Tape Also Sounds Good Too!!!! I Still Have My Akai and Roberts Reel to Reel Tape Decks and They All Work Great!!! The only Tapes I Use is 911 Recording the Masters Audio Reel to Reel Tape!!! Mayby Someday Someone Will Do A Test of the Same Album on Audiophile Vinyl Record Album But Also Mastered Reel to Reel Tape Album From the Tape Project or From Analogue Productions Acoustic Sounds But The Price for A Blank Tape on A 10 inch Reel 2400 Feet Cost About $100 Dollars and For one Album Would Cost Around $450 Dollars to Make!!!! That's my Take on Vinyl Records Verses Reel to Reel Tape Albums!!!! Bye From Gerard Stroh!!!!

I have CD version from 85 and it sounds even better than both of this :-D

The turntable comes with a higher resolution of the higher frequencies

@krwd

6 ай бұрын

nope

@brugj03

6 ай бұрын

Nope, it sounds thin. Thats distortion.

@davidwald2938

5 ай бұрын

​​@@brugj03agreed! I thought the vinyl sounded thinner and the open reel had more body. Sounded like I'd expect a studio master to sound (in my imagination since I haven't heard one but basically unaltered by digital processing, dacs, or changes due to converting to vinyl. Easily apparent even with KZread compression. Like r2r has all the advantages of cd (dynamics) and vinyl ( warmth) with none of the disadvantages of either. Too bad it has the crippling disadvantage of so very few prwrecorded r2rs of popular titles available. Sincerely hope some entrepreneurs see the market and make reasonably priced 7.5 ips reels available in analogue of course and not just sourced from hires digital remaster stuff we all already easy access

This is so funny, trying to compare two analog devices when both have been digitised by something unknown and then re-compressed by the KZread audio and video mangling machine.

Finding tapes without dropout these days is rare, and only 7 1/2 ips is going to match an Lp for fidelity. 3 3/4 are little better than pre Dolby cassettes.

Acho a melhor qualidade do vinil remasterizado 👍🇧🇷

Vinyl is the King.

@krwd

6 ай бұрын

nope

REEL. I have basic Akai models and old reels but still...bests vinyl 95% of the time.

@mauriciorosas8170

6 ай бұрын

In other words, a non-professional (cheap) R2R sounds more organic than a fancy (read expensive) TT rig...

reel to reel is the best

Reel tape winner

We need a direct-to-vinyl option so we can compare apples to apples.

The reality is that you only listen to one at a time, not as a A-B comparison in real life.

El reel suena mas natural y analogico. El vinilo suena mas digital

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

Al momento de hacer la prueba me lleve esa sorpresa. Reel tape superaba al vinilo

They both blow CD and steaming away.

Something is wrong with your tape deck - the reels wobble too much, especially the take-up (right) reel.

Since we are hearing it in a digital format (as decided by KZread), not sure of the point of this comparison. Perhaps to show off your toys. I can appreciate that.

Vinyl-sound the best

Well… eh… and I can hear that… on you tube… on my iPad… with my AirPods… 😂😂😂😂😂

I've heard of Master Tapes, not really of Master Vinyls... the end.

The truth is that unless you have a 2nd copy from the original Master, a high end Turntable with any good album will sound better than a tape.

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

In fact I have this record in several formats: vinyl, CD, SACD and cassette. I like them all. But I’d I have to chose the best sound, or the more complete, it would be the Reel Tape. I can assure that in my room the difference is evident.

@krwd

6 ай бұрын

nope take a look at the 15 ips releases from Analogue sounds and tell me that

@brugj03

6 ай бұрын

Thats nonsence. The conversion from analog tape to vinyl is much more distructive. Tape will allmost always sound better. Besides turntable has somany factors of added coloration, it will probably be sounding completely different.

@Fluterra

6 ай бұрын

@@brugj03 Wrong. Listen to what he says carefully. With a direct cut or ‘master cut’ vinyl you are getting the copy right off the master tape. They only have to play the tape ONCE to get a mold. To get tapes made, they have to make copies of copies of copies. Why do you think the companies DO NOT tell you how many copies are made between your tape and the Master? 😂 A well setup high-end TT will blow away the sound of most R2R tapes. If you have a true master tape, sure, that should sound better. But almost no one does.

@Fluterra

6 ай бұрын

@@krwd I have and ask them how many copies between the master and what you can buy. They won’t tell you. Guess why?? Because they make copies of copies of copies. Think about it: a record Master can be made by playing the Master tape once. If you buy an album on tape, they cannot run hundreds of tape machines at once. That’s why they make copies of copies of copies.

Too bad they didn't play a more exciting option for the music. Obviously, reel to reel sounds much better.

More bass in Reel tape.

OMG what for an UNBELIEVABLE sound from both. But i think the Tape is better.

Tape is top quality.

Not enough volume/gain. Both sound like they're 100 feet away.

You are not going to hear the difference it the tape source was from the record. The tape can only sound as good as the record!!

EZ Answer, Reel to Reel. Much much less distortion. Nice Pioneer, like the gold hubs on 10" reels.

Probably the best it would sound from an original, not remastered CD (the one that Bob Ludwig has mastered) - or even better, from original master tape based upon the mastering for CD (maybe vinyl too) was made.. Copy Tape recorded from vinyl can't technically sound better, sorry - it is not possible, it is just a copy, so while it is analog there must be some (even minor) changes, it is not digital to be the same. All other is just a "magic tricks". Not to mention, recording playback with (as i suppose) microphone won't give You any details. Also, not mention that this is first or one of the first album that was DIGITALLY RECORDED :)

I don't understand the meaning of this comparison when the source of real to real tape is a vinyl. So you are comparing the original vs the copy ones? yes for sure when you did a tweak for certain aspects (eg bass/low freq and treble/high freq) a layman's ear will hear the tape sounds nicer. You should use the original pre-recorded tapes in this regard those old tapes from 1970 vs the first pressing from the same year. I believe vinyl will sound much better.

You would have close.to a hundred K in gear there..🎷👍

Tape sounds like it has more bump to it.

@maghu6

6 ай бұрын

I think so too

Considering the tape is just a dub of the vinyl, neither. Not even really sure what the whole point of this was. All that expensive metal just to rotate a piece of plastic with a dull, muffled and lifeless sound. Should have just played the CD to get the same results with a lot less hassle.

Reel to Reel is better in my opinion....

Anything tape looks great in my trash bin.

0:29 4:11

everything sounds muffled