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@mustafaemad3614

3 жыл бұрын

Please make a video about Bar Lev Line, costing around $300 million in 1973.

@geekehUK

3 жыл бұрын

I always find the flights example kinda sus, like haven't the airlines cottoned on if you're searching for flights for like Los Angeles to Sydney while supposedly living in Zimbabwe? If it actually works maybe you could show an example on screen during the ad read?

@Rebius

3 жыл бұрын

I have surfshark, it's not good

@wrongway1100

3 жыл бұрын

They did write a movie about SOSUS. In fact it was a book first. Ever heard of The Hunt for Red October?

@dudepool7530

3 жыл бұрын

How about one on Sophia the robot? I find her absolutely fascinating. They did just release the "2020" production line. Yeah... I just want a talking (robot) dog best friend lmao.

I was in the Navy from 1988 - 1992. I was an OTA (Ocean Systems Technician Analyst) who tracked the submarines using the SOSUS arrays. Pretty odd to see that our job, equipment, locations, etc are now declassified. I had a secret clearance and couldn’t tell anyone what I did. I was stationed at NAVFAC Whidbey Island in Washington State. It was a wicked cool job, honestly. I met a lot of fantastic people, too. I would much rather go to a Navy reunion than a high school reunion 😁

@pennythomas9305

2 жыл бұрын

I was in from 1989-1994 and was an OTA3. My first duty station after ASW school was Bermuda then back to NOPF Dam Neck in Virginia Beach. I loved the job and would love to do it again! Good times...great friends

@MrVindler

2 жыл бұрын

We were there at Whidbey during the same time frame.

@tonyflamingo8113

2 жыл бұрын

i live right near whidbey island, its pretty awesome to see chinooks and stuff flying to and from the air station there. We've even had the blue angles do practice runs over our house a couple times.

@scubaskelly

Жыл бұрын

I would imagine that means we have something else, or it's just common knowledge

@TroyHuffstetler

11 ай бұрын

Same here same years in SOSUS then on to Surtass and some experimental work on larger ships, its an incredible community of men and women sailors with diversity in thinking, strategy, and outcomes. Some of the best critical thinkers I have been around in the Navy. As far as accuracy and its effectiveness after converting to Sonar I would say we did pretty good. The oral boards for our principles of sound and much more was intense.. Glad I stumbled across this video and saw the old gear in action. Would be great to see a follow up video to SOSUS.

One of the lesser known talents was that the Sosus network was sensitive enough to be able to track the incredibly noisy Soviet TU-95 Bear Turboprop bomber that is still used and will be until 2040 according to sources. Just a fun fact.

@seangawne8392

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, I remember hearing "Conn, sonar, we have a contact bearing 070, doing 1800 rpm on four seven bladed screws."

@TimYorty

Жыл бұрын

With a 50hz down Doppler signature at CPA. :)

"Your aircraft has dropped enough sonobuoys so that a man could walk from Greenland to Iceland to Scotland without getting his feet wet. Now, shall we dispense with the bull?"

@phantomechelon3628

Жыл бұрын

Epically good movie. 👍

@TheSchultinator

Жыл бұрын

@Phantom Echelon I maintain that the book's ending was better. The movie's ain't bad, but the book's is better

@phantomechelon3628

Жыл бұрын

@@TheSchultinator Yeah - movies usually sacrifice stuff for run time, director / scriptwriter's visions etc. I'd say the same about Patriot Games, Clear & Present Danger and Sum of All Fears.

@d.b.1176

10 ай бұрын

Nice comment buckaroo

Hollywood touches on the whole theme with Tom Clancy's The Hunt for Red October and I'm pretty sure they even mention the SOSUS system.

@WarpFactor999

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, they did.

@blackfish4147

3 жыл бұрын

He spent half a chapter to break SOSUS down in the book which landed him before congress proving that all of his sources were public knowledge.

@BlackEpyon

3 жыл бұрын

The movie mentioned it briefly, but the book went into more detail.

@adamdax

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackEpyon well yes I mention the Movie because of Simon's comment about Hollywood get on it

@JS-wc4xs

3 жыл бұрын

What about the K-19?

As a former submariner, I can confirm that Simon pronounces SOSUS correctly.

@jamesclark1001

3 жыл бұрын

As fellow bubblehead I concur.

@Adventurehandle

3 жыл бұрын

and thrice a yes vote

@JS-wc4xs

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service! All of you!

@billholland2076

3 жыл бұрын

I concur with this comment

@camronfitzsimmons9527

3 жыл бұрын

As a former infantryman I can confirm.... you're all crazy

The description of "active" sonar (sending a ping and listening for a response) isn't relevant for SOSUS, which is "passive" sonar (i.e. just listening for the noises made by passing submarines).

Jeffrey Pelt to Dr. Ryan: “Listen, I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open.” 😎

@briancooper2112

3 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@hughculliton3174

3 жыл бұрын

One of my fav movie quotes of all time!

@L33tSkE3t

3 жыл бұрын

Great movie, just rewatched it the other day

Today is the day that Simon learned that Hollywood did make a movie about this. (in my best Scottish accent) "Most things in here don't react well to bullets."

@AJL15N

3 жыл бұрын

One ping only 😂

@Chainsaw-ASMR

3 жыл бұрын

"That torpedo did not self-destruct. You heard it hit the hull. And I...was never here."

@jackgibsxxx0750

3 жыл бұрын

Most things ANYWHERE do not react well to bullets.

@marklinsarms

3 жыл бұрын

Soyuz nerushimyy respublik svobodnykh Splotila naveki velikaya Rus'. Da zdravstvuyet sozdannyy voley narodov Yedinyy, moguchiy Sovetskiy Soyuz!

@Chainsaw-ASMR

3 жыл бұрын

@@marklinsarms real talk, I had to google that one...well played sir

I served at one of the original SOSUS stations on the East Coast - HMCS Shelburne in Nova Scotia, Canada. We WRENs took our specialized training for this in Key West, Florida. I was posted to HMCS Shelburne in April 1963.

@LatitudeSky

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your service and dedication. It is thanks to people like you that we have kept the world mostly at peace all these decades. We owe you much gratitude and thanks.

@gwensettle15

3 жыл бұрын

@@LatitudeSky Thanks, LS. I appreciate your kind words.

@TroyHuffstetler

11 ай бұрын

@@gwensettle15 I got build some great relationships and Serve with many of the women of the Canadian Navy at these sites. Still friends..

I first learned about SOSUS about 1968 when I was working (Civil Service, not military) at the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Pasadena, CA. It was still highly classified at the time. I understand that the network has been used in more recent decades for oceanographic scientific research.

@harrietharlow9929

2 жыл бұрын

I read about it back in the late 90s in a book by Robert D. Ballard, "Explorations".

@jabreck1934

2 жыл бұрын

My father was president NCEL. Head of research and development for the Navy In 1968.He was the lead engineer and his name is on the blueprints. Robert Breckenridge He also helped developed pre-stressed concrete. remember the vacuum punchcard “Computer” They had at Port Hueneme. Dad liked his slide ruler better

@BruceMusto

10 ай бұрын

that would be the place to learn about it at. yessir.

1:50 - Chapter 1 - Early sonar 3:15 - Chapter 2 - The sofar channels 4:40 - Chapter 3 - The cold war begins 6:15 - Mid roll ads 7:50 - Chapter 4 - SOSUS research 9:30 - Chapter 5 - Installation 10:30 - Chapter 6 - Evolution 11:10 - Chapter 7 - Bingo 13:25 - Chapter 8 - Problems with the system 15:05 - Chapter 9 - Post cold war

I had a couple ideas for Megaprojects: - What about, "the internet". Like everything from the invention/discovery, to the servers, laying all the cable. Everything from concept to now. Multi-part series? - The Sears Tower in Chicago - The IDS tower in Minneapolis - The US National Highway system - US National Park System - The Bell Telephone System

@bwright3943

3 жыл бұрын

The highway system forsure would be great to see. Great ideas man👌

@deanworsley5208

3 жыл бұрын

How about “chemtrails” 😒

@angelarch5352

3 жыл бұрын

also CN tower in Toronto Canada please

Not sure if there is more disappointment that Today is the day Simon finds out about "The Hunt for Red October", or we were gypped out of hearing him say "magma displacement"

@Viper-dn8ix

3 жыл бұрын

This was literally the first thing I thought of...

@787roofdog

3 жыл бұрын

Captain Ramius : Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.

@joncalon7508

3 жыл бұрын

I heard about the SOSUS net in this movie...Please Simon, tell me you've watched this classic Sean Connery movie prior to making this video?

@AshrakAhmed

3 жыл бұрын

was about to say it myself too! Hollywood had beat you to the punch Simon in this occasion!

@michaelmontgomery5141

3 жыл бұрын

The Cold War- The Enemy in The Depth

'Look! The Captain has scared the Americans out of the water!'

@jeffpeffers4519

3 жыл бұрын

Horton hears a who!!?

"That is a massive mouthful" -Simon, 2021

@saion1779

3 жыл бұрын

Of duckies:)

@toymachine2328

3 жыл бұрын

"Sam! Sam! You missed a spot for a meme!"

@arsevillian6816

3 жыл бұрын

Kinky

Coos Bay,Or had a Sosus station it's exact nature was not known but as soon as the USSR fell it was decommissioned.

@anaetadesireechandler4122

3 жыл бұрын

Same down the coast in humboldt county just outside of ferndale. It’s now been shut down demolished and given back to the BLM.

@tgmccoy1556

3 жыл бұрын

@@anaetadesireechandler4122 I remember following a US Navy Flatbed truck down 101 it had some interesting equipment on the back turned off at Ferndale.. I figured it wasn't for a satilite dish for the officer's club.

@geraldryan2914

3 жыл бұрын

I was stationed in Coos Bay in 1987-89, would like to learn more about that!

@pnachtwey

3 жыл бұрын

@@anaetadesireechandler4122 I trained there.

@briangarrow448

3 жыл бұрын

I had a buddy who was a lineman in Grays Harbor County on the Washington coast. He was called out once to the naval facility in Pacific Beach, Washington, because of an electrical service issue. He was an apprentice at the time and his partner was a journeyman. When they got to the facility, they were taken to a building and the navy security guards made my friend sit and they took the lineman to another place where he was told to check out the input lines. The guards never left my friend alone for a minute. When the senior guy came back, he just said that he was taken to an underground facility, by elevator and couldn’t talk about it anymore. My buddy always wondered what his coworker saw. The guy never talked about what he saw to anyone. Local rumors said the base had something to do with submarines. Could it have been connected to Sosus?

Sea Wolf Class would make and interesting video. Last of the Cold War boats and more advanced then all but the most recent Virginia Class Block V boats. Only three completed, second most expensive sub ever made. Designed to stalk the Typhoon and escorts.

@Shadow__133

3 жыл бұрын

Since you mentioned all the important facts I guess there's no more need for a video 😝

@cixelsyd40

3 жыл бұрын

One of the Sea Wolf subs was modified to be a spy sub.

@Kirovets7011

3 жыл бұрын

....."Designed to stalk the Typhoon and escorts".... Uhm, Ben...The Typhoon is not in service anymore. They are all phased out.

@Shadow__133

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kirovets7011 That's what you want the west to think 😉.

@primitivestudio1

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes the PierWolf

First one .. you are pronouncing it right

@skizzik121

3 жыл бұрын

1st time for everything right? Lol

Cool video. One small clarification though. You mentioned that Submarines are tracked through SONAR, which is correct. However, you mentioned that SONAR is where you transmit a sound into the water and receive a sound back. This is called active SONAR, and is rarely used by Submarines, and never during anti Submarine warfare. Submarines, the SOSUS system and most surface ships rely primarily on passive SONAR to track submarines. This is where you just sit and listen to sounds in the water and do not transmit any noise.

@willpugh8865

11 ай бұрын

Passive sonar is sonar none the less 2 years later i felt compelled to let you know you’re an asshole, trying to be smart for no reason EVERY person knew and understood what simon was saying you are just trying to interject your little “lesson” We know , you such, stop trying

*reaches for low-hanging fruit "THAT SOVIET SUB IS SO SUS!"

@Noone-jn3jp

3 жыл бұрын

😂 get outta here

@Bovafett

3 жыл бұрын

GDI, upvoted... now GTFO

@robertwilliams-day320

3 жыл бұрын

And today’s winner of the internet is...

@literallyanangrymoose7717

3 жыл бұрын

That was bad and you should feel bad.

Every nuclear sub has sunk, only 11 didn’t unsink.

@Brickrider2

3 жыл бұрын

Surfaces must always equal dives.

@Adventurehandle

3 жыл бұрын

"how deep can you go?" "all the way to the bottom" lol

@Brickrider2

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adventurehandle Every ship can be a submarine once.

@billholland2076

3 жыл бұрын

No, submarines dive, not sink. A vessel is only sunken when it can’t surface itself

@daveware4117

3 жыл бұрын

Good point

Let's just say in the 70's and 80's SOSUS and the other elements of the whole strategic ASW world were considerably more successful than you can imagine.

@pennythomas9305

2 жыл бұрын

As a Ocean System Technician, I would totally agree!

Actually, submarines rarely use active sonar as this gives away the position of the submarine using it. Passive sonar is used almost all the time.

Could there be more acronyms? Of course Simon! This is the military (of which I was a proud member). We have so many acronyms we even have acronyms for acronyms!

@GoDodgers1

11 ай бұрын

Including FUBAR.

Great video. I worked on several SOSUS stations in the mid 70"s when I was in the Navy. We know them as NAVFAC's . Most of the info you have is correct and some is still classified. Most of these stations were shutdown in the 80"s an 90"s but some were automated.

@hachwarwickshire292

3 жыл бұрын

Which Navy ?

@mrr.6313

2 жыл бұрын

The 70's we're before my time ...I was 90 to 95 at CVB and Nopf damn neck.....

Oh funny thing about the SOSUS net, they could hear the TU-95 "Bear" nosey sob. poor guys that fly that one loses their hearing faster than a pion like me flying BH-206L3's

Covering the modern Seawolf class submarine would be a great follow up to this. another cold war effort with incredibly interesting history!

As a Cold War submariner this all made me chuckle. Remember, there is what is publicly available and there is truth. They are rarely the same.

@TroyHuffstetler

11 ай бұрын

true that

Submarine movies almost a sub genre, Hunt for Red October, Das Boot, Crimson Tide, U571...

"You have somethin' to add to our discussion, Doctah Ryan?"

@stephenketcham4179

3 жыл бұрын

Capt. Ramius might be trying to defect...

@natureandphysics403

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenketcham4179 I said speak your mind, Jack, but ... jeezus!

@macmedic892

3 жыл бұрын

“I’m a politician, which means I’m a cheat and a liar. When I’m not kissing babies, I’m stealing their lollipops.” No truer words were ever spoken.

@natureandphysics403

3 жыл бұрын

@@macmedic892 I wouldn't trust John Milius with truth too much.

@emjackson2289

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenketcham4179 is just an analysist, how could he possibly know?

Lol, that Hollywood movie has already been made, it is called The Hunt for Red October

"world war two - apparently totally worth it" simon whistler, 2021

Can recommend "The Silent Deep: The Royal Navy Submarine Service" for extra background. Great vid!

@GeorgeSemel

3 жыл бұрын

Blind man's Bluff is another very good book about the era.

Simon how do you always have so much energy?? Maybe we need a mega projects on that

This is your best narration yet. Loved the video!

I really enjoy your videos, thanks for making them. As for some suggested topics; ITER, LIGO, James Webb Space Telescope, Gotthard Base Tunnel

The military lives on acronyms. When I was in I had to basically learn a new language.

@lornfant

3 жыл бұрын

While waiting to start my 'A' school in the Navy I had a job sorting and delivering mail on a training base. I often had to refer to the DicNavAb* to figure out who gets what mail.

@almitrahopkins1873

3 жыл бұрын

@@lornfant I never could figure out how you FPO assholes kept that shit straight.

Uh Simon, they did that movie already, book too... Guy named Clancy, maybe you've heard of him... Featuring Sean Connery's Scottish drawl that screams Soviet Sub Captain....

@angelarch5352

3 жыл бұрын

Scottish Soviet sub captains are tight!

@clintonmuennich2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@angelarch5352 Will it be difficult to find the secret submarine?

@currykingwurst6393

3 жыл бұрын

You know that Simon hasn't watched most movies.

Fabulous work as always. Fascinating topic!

Omg I’m stoked you covered a topic I recommended!

Tom Clancy and Larry Bond wrote a novel, Red Storm Rising. I suggest you read it.

@scottfuller5194

3 жыл бұрын

When the Russians lost K129, the SOSUS “trilateral” fix gave the US its location....it was decided by the USN and CIA to go fetch it.....the highly secret project was code named AZORIAN (same title of the 2010 book by Norman Polmar and Michael White) under The Jennifer Project (Same title of the 1977 book by Clyde Burleson) whereby known other than Howard Hughes working in concert for the CIA, created an ocean going ship to “search for manganese nodules” but had a “Moon Pool” designed into the ship complete with apparatus to be lowered to grasp the K129, to retrieve it back up into the ships Moon Pool for intelligence exploitation.....the mission was apparently only partially successful, retrieving only a section of the sub when the underwater “claw” system experienced mechanical failure, the sub breaking apart....with only a section of it actually retrieved back into the Moon Pool.....as claimed later when the project was revealed by a security lapse.....the part had Russian bodies in it....and it was claimed by the CIA, no Russian secret codes were captured.....later the CIA completed a Russian Naval,burial at sea of the bodies, conducted and recorded in Russian, a copy of which was swapped with the Russians....it is believed that a complete Russian ICBM missile with a nuclear warhead and a launch code system was captured......(?)....further published literature on secret submarine intelligence gathering includes, but is not limited to...Rising Tide by Gary Weir and Walter Boyne in 2003, Stalking the Red Bear by Peter Sasgen in 2009, Red November by W.Craig Reed in 2010, Blind Mans Bluff by Sherry Sontag and Christopher and Annette Drew in 1998, God and Spies by Garry Matheny in 2018 and others (56 to date) all providing further detailed now declassified underwater intelligence exploitation operations......”Watson, the game is afoot” .....and remains so to date and beyond, including Spies of the Deep by W. Craig Reed in 2020, the story of the very tragic loss of the mega Russian sub, the Kursk.....

thanks

@douglinn5824

3 жыл бұрын

Ayy look who’s here

Great job on an obscure topic. Fascinating

Simmons your a trip man,,, I wish I had you as a teacher when I was in school, keep it up Dude your doing GREAT

"OMG are there a lot of acronyms!" Me: WELCOME TO THE US MILITARY!!! Where you can get your SA about your AOR.

@Zaluskowsky

3 жыл бұрын

Jeah greetings from Germany. We Copy pasted that whole acronym thing I guess

Just imagine how different things would be if USA and Russia were allies instead of dragging on an old grudge for power

Awesome vid today, Simon. Thanks.

you fixed the video from the video cool so much easy to watch thx

After the Russians obtained computer precision lathes from the Japanese, the Russian Submarines became quieter and harder to detect.

@NefariousKoel

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes. The Toshiba-Konigsberg scandal.

@scottfuller5194

3 жыл бұрын

No......not so.......USN Chief Petty Officer Walker sold the Russians every cryptographic secret he could put his greedy hands on.....he did that for over 18 years and recruited his brother and his son to feed him other secrets to sell.....the Russians then easily worked out the offensive and defensive US navy secrets beyond communications security, such as technological advances in precision machine tooling to then fabricate their own state of the art silent running stealth systems......it was Walkers own wife who went to the FBI to reveal his treachery and espionage activities.......catching his brother and his son.....he tried to co-opt his daughter too but she refused.....!

Well, basically we wired the ocean for sound. It got so bad for the Soviets that they kept their SSNs under the pack ice. We will never know fully how well we were served and are being served by the silent service. Money well spent, the cold war would never go hot because the Soviets could not turn the Atlantic into a Soviet lake. It's a good thing, not only for us but for our Russian cousins too.

@mrunseen3797

3 жыл бұрын

As of they had the intent (or resources) to start ww3. Typical American thinking that the Soviets were the aggressors.

@GeorgeSemel

11 ай бұрын

@@mrunseen3797 Yeah, Go ask the Ukrainians about Soviet aggression, or the current war!

While attending Submarine Sonar school in San Diego in 1978, we entered a special session known as "SECRET WEEK". We learned about a secret system known as SOSUS. This information was so secret it could only be discussed in specially secured rooms safe from espionage. The weekend following SECRET Week was a 3 day weekend so some buddies and I took a motorcycle trip up the Pacific Coast Highway. Imagine our surprise when we seen a highway sign with the words "US Navy SOSUS Station This Exit". So much for "SECRET".

@michaelweinmann3679

2 жыл бұрын

@@IUSSHistory, Big Sur

Hey just found your channel and subscribed. Good work. I remember in the '70s a Hull based trawler, the "Gaul', disappeared with the loss of all hands, it was though to be an accident in bad weather, which was later confirmed, but no-one admitted to know where it was. It turned out that the trawler landed on the sea bed right next to one of the SOSUS cables, so its location could not be disclosed and also how they knew it was there without disclosing SOSUS. A ROV was sent down to the trawler in the naughties when SOSUS was declassified enabling the relatives to know what happened.

I will continue to suggest the M-16 on every Cold War Megaproject.

@Mgl1206

3 жыл бұрын

The gun?

@joshuaradick5679

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mgl1206 Yes.

@douglinn5824

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll raise that idea to the greatest 3 way in military industrial history.... Eugene Stoner vs Mikhail Kalashnikov vs Michael G. Vickers (aka The Special Forces officer who fathered the Stinger missile, and now on the board of directors for BAE)

I'm never going to be able to see a video of a submarine again, without hearing that dolphin chatter

@pennythomas9305

2 жыл бұрын

It's whale song

The SOSUS array was so good the it could hear the Soviet bomber TU-95 which is the largest turboprop bomber with 8 counter rotating propellers. The aircraft is also the noisiest aircraft which is why SOSUS could detect it.

I was stationed at Marine Barracks, NAS Bermuda, in 1972. Part of our duties was to guard the SOSUS facility on the island. We had Secret clearances but if something such as a fire occurred in the facility, we couldn’t enter due to the type of work being done there. We just patrolled and issued security badges.

@hachwarwickshire292

3 жыл бұрын

Bermuda ... life must have been hell

@jw0001

3 жыл бұрын

@@hachwarwickshire292 it was not bad duty. Everything is gone now. What buildings that are left are being used by the Bermudians. One of the many bases closed in the 90’s.

@gregcorwin8316

3 жыл бұрын

I was stationed at the NAVFAC for 18 months starting in late 1973, always enjoyed chatting with you guys on the gate.

you forgot to mention how they used SOSUS to detect Kursk, and figure out it's exact location with triangulation.

@Gman-26

Жыл бұрын

I’d like to see that!

" .... which is currently eleven." That we know of. Allegedly.

@angelarch5352

3 жыл бұрын

sorta, maybe,

Lots of fun tidbits you've inserted into this video!

Always informative and entertaining!

Wasn’t this the system that picked up the Bloop？ shoutout to Cthulhu

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

possible but what about Julia Bloop?

When dealing with governments and their militaries, acronyms need to be your second language.

@almitrahopkins1873

3 жыл бұрын

Alphabet soup.

Bing watching Simon's channels during lockdown, to save what's left of my sanity.

Wow. I suggested this last week...fair play to you Simon. I suppose ill have to watch your take in now. Well done

I've never heard it said S-O-S-U-S, I've always heard it said like a single word, Sosus.

@Kirovets7011

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, me to.

They knew where Thresher went down as there was a ship above it. The Scorion was found by SOSUS? How soon did the USN know where and when it sunk? Why did it take five months to find it?

NICE!!! I am excited you covered this project! Thank you for doing another Cold War goodie.

Had been waiting for this one

How hasn't the Seawolf-class submarine made it here yet? The thing is the F-22 Raptor of the ocean.

@WasabiSniffer

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like you got your wish

U said it right, u can hear Alec Baldwin say it in The Hunt For Red October.

Very interesting. Thanks Simon.

Your initial discussion of sonar implied that it's all active sonar. Problem with that is that the transmitting platform can be detected at much greater range than can the target- not good. For some time, on USN ships, surface and submarine, improvements to passive sonar, especially on surface ships, combined with reduction of self-noise resulting from gas turbines, made both ship types excellent silent stalkers/killers. FWIW the Walkers, US spy family, compromised info on just how noisy Soviet subs were; keel-hauling no longer an option, sadly.

@patrickforbes6745

3 жыл бұрын

When I was a sonarman on an SSN we detected a Russian sub spying on our fleet maneuvers. We gave it a single ping at close range, max power and max pulse width. I’m sure it woke everyone on board their boat. They left the area. We went back to being the “silent service”.

More acronyms? Its the military, everything is an acronym.

@owenshebbeare2999

3 жыл бұрын

It is a thing that particularly affects Americans, and not just in the military.

@robsherwood5934

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes, it is.

SURFSHARK SOSUS. I've spent all my "s" for today.

I love all your channels, Simon. Keep up the good work :)

@sandybarnes887

3 жыл бұрын

All 12?

@biocybernaught3512

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandybarnes887 I know of 7

I was in the P3 Navy out of Maine in the early 70s. It was common among us.

A like and a comment. Take that KZread algorithm

According to The Hunt for The Red October, you're pronouncing SOSUS correctly.

Outstanding!!!. Simply outstanding!!!.

Since i live really close to one of the outposts here in Greece what about a megaprojects or sideprojects on the project ELF , also for submarines but for communicating surface signals .

@koori3085

3 жыл бұрын

That's done between ships and aircraft now. The jet drags a long tail behind it and slowly transmits whatever message your station would have sent it. ELF stands for Extremely Low Frequency.

my father's cousin was lost at sea with the Scorpion

@mrt1r

3 жыл бұрын

My condolences. We will never forget.

@almitrahopkins1873

3 жыл бұрын

God rest his soul.

"Using two or more buoys" Boy go find me a submarine and I'll give you a shilling

@muninrob

3 жыл бұрын

Bouy: "There's something over there" Submarine: "Read it Buoy"

@PObermanns

3 жыл бұрын

Three is better

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds about like Kohls cash

OYYYYYYY We need an episode on Dead Hand and related tech

COOL! I live very close to an abandoned SOSUS base at CFS Shelburne. Also the site of a supposed UFO recovery effort in 1967 (Shag Harbour UFO)

Last time I was this early for a Simon video, Washington was still known as the Redskins

@jetsons101

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the football team named after the little red potato?

@wyolaskan1868

3 жыл бұрын

@@jetsons101 that one!

@jetsons101

3 жыл бұрын

@@wyolaskan1868 LOL LOL

His beard is gettin' YUGE!

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

Looks darker also.

@basrengangetch.2042

3 жыл бұрын

I hate my mind

Simon Simon Simon at 12:33ish it was PT-109 not K-109 or maybe K-129 a diesel powered 3 missile tubes (in the sail)

When I was in the Navy in the 80’s there was a story of hazing a new Ensign on a destroyer. The total him there was a series of buoy s across the Pacific and one broke loose. This was top secret and they could not inform the enlisted personnel so in inclement weather he stood watch on the bow of the ship looking for the buoy which was floating on the surface.

I had the chance to sit with a retired CIA and a Navy Man when they were talking about this system. Now, these guys did not talk about anything they shouldn't but I would have loved to hear them talk in private about some of their experiences.

@almitrahopkins1873

3 жыл бұрын

That conversation would be above your pay grade. They were probably using coded language right in front of you anyway.

@jabreck1934

2 жыл бұрын

My father was lead engineer. His name is on the blueprints. President naval civil engineering laboratories. Head of research and development Port Hueneme. Highest rank civilian in the military at that time

@jabreck1934

2 жыл бұрын

@@IUSSHistory “ naval Civil Engineering Laboratory‘s RA Breckenridge. Lots of info about him there The only other person I remember is Dan true. Many summers the family spent time on squirrel Island in British Columbia. Family trips always involves going to some very unusual locations.

Diesel/electric subs are quieter than their nuclear counterparts when submerged and running electric. Cooling system noises.

@owenshebbeare2999

3 жыл бұрын

Australia's then-old Oberons were able to beat Americans in war games because of their quiet operation. Pity their replacements sucked, and the next gen planned cone from France, so will likely just surrender.

@spacepeanut8993

3 жыл бұрын

@@owenshebbeare2999 I believe it. Our squadron's aircrew had a much tougher time finding the older subs using passive sonobuoys when they were submerged

On from this subject, could you do another video on ASW during and post Cold War? I’m talking specifically the aircraft involved, P3 Orions and derivatives, and the British Shackletons and Nimrods. I’m an ex RAAF maintainer who joined in the 80s and served many years in this role, many changes over the years too. Thanks in advance 🤙🏼

The most difficult and expensive part of passive acoustic data spectrum analysis was the production of LAVA Technicians. The school (seven weeks for STG-0445 class) was probably the last training environment for a neural compute intensive process that couldn't be replaced by digital computing methods at the time. No more than ten in my class graduated and well more than eighty volunteered. None of the line officers or chief petty officers passed the course for the November 1977 FLEASWTRACENPAC class. My Division Officer stated that it was the most difficult course of any kind that the US Navy offered to any qualified volunteer, and it was a shame my rank was too low to volunteer. I still haven't figured that bit out, as I certainly went back to my very favorite Naval Base of all time for that massively difficult class. Best Naval Base BEQ facilities EVER in my not very humble opinion concerning nautical fraternity accommodations. Quite a hoot, and major headache too.

Didn't Walker tell the Russians about this and his son?

@jamesclark1001

3 жыл бұрын

Johnny Walker provided key mats and schematics of encryption gear to the soviets. This basically gave the soviets open access to all submarine operations.

@Adventurehandle

3 жыл бұрын

Walker was a comms and crypto guy. Not a sonar guy.

@jamesclark1001

3 жыл бұрын

@@Adventurehandle yup. I got to do my EKMS requal in his old office when I did my last tour at SUBLANT.

Need to do a video on the uss zumwalt and that class of ship. As the fact that it cost 1million per ammunition round for its guns makes it a crazy interesting project.

You got it right. It's mentioned in The Hunt for Red October and Crimson Tide.

I hope nobody believes that SOSUS and would have been declassified unless something superior had already replaced it.

@pnachtwey

3 жыл бұрын

It was getting old. The microphones get covered with sea growth. The signal processing was crude. It was better to tow an array behind a ship. The array could be kept clean and upgraded easier.

@Thornbeard

3 жыл бұрын

From what my father always said John Walker Lynn was one of the main reasons for the loss of SOSUS. He gave the USSR a detailed technical spec on the system with it they were able to design their subs to be better at avoiding it.

Will smashing the Like button void my iPad warranty?

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

And android's

@DogBeast221

3 жыл бұрын

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 now I’m craving cornbread...

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

@@DogBeast221 make sure you have it with buttermilk

@DogBeast221

3 жыл бұрын

@@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647 yum!

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

3 жыл бұрын

@@DogBeast221 oh someone else likes that bowl or big glass?

Most submarines are using passive sonar. This means that the only thing they do is listen en identify all the sounds underwater. This makes it much harder for other submarines and hostile forces to detect the submarine.

Great Video! Is there enough information available to do a video on the Soviet K19 mentioned? That sounds like a interesting situation I would like to hear more about.

@seangawne8392

3 жыл бұрын

There is a movie call K-19 the Widowmaker, it's a decent movie although many of the nuclear science stuff is just Hollywood nonsense.