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@kvin309

3 жыл бұрын

Next video nitrogen oc ps5 to stable 120 fps

@TheOriginalFaxon

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this teardown. I'm very excited to see if the haptic feedback feature comes to any games on PC as well (PC ports or original titles). I am planning to get one of these from family for christmas so I can start playing more platformers and other things like the spyro remastered collection, the same way I did when I was a kid with a PS2 clone USB controller and BLEEM with some ripped PS1 game disks. Using a DS4 for now but it belongs to my sister, and she'll want hers back eventually when she can have friends over again lol. looks like you can service the whole thing with just a soldering iron and an ifixit kit as well, which is pretty good if you ask me. Not counting the rumble motor because that was definitely a contained unit you cut into there

@FSDraconis

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like the rumble system is just like the buttkicker gamer device that mounts to an office chair. Using a weight that is moved up and down via electromagnet system.

@rickysargulesh1053

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoy those teardowns. On an unrelated note. Since you mentionesd it. Are you planning to do a video at some point on how to disable all devices in your house listening to you? How do you handle it in your personal life?

@xvbd6067

3 жыл бұрын

I shouldn't have been surprised, GN had a teardown like hours after other videos came out, but here I am, Amazed

Steve is that kind of guy who'd drop the mangled Stadia controller to the ground without restrain but after the ad starts rolling, he'd go and clean the mess up right away.

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Actually exactly what happened!

@WoundedSnake

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus unlike certain man I know coughlinuscough

@Thermalions

3 жыл бұрын

@@WoundedSnake Well he'd tell one of his staff to clean it up, with better than even odds that their first response would be no.

@TheAvenger1171

3 жыл бұрын

​@@GamersNexus Hmm, the DROP keyboard was sponsored right after DROPPING the Stadia controller. Coincidence? I think not!

@Xfade81

3 жыл бұрын

And also starts with an add from Drop.

"Built in Microphone, to chat online with friends" "You need to have them" ok

@grampton

3 жыл бұрын

PS Party is broken anyway

@alexmar4252

3 жыл бұрын

Another useless feature for myself... just like multiplayer without bots/AI

@carlos2004

3 жыл бұрын

i felt attacked

@kevinkvs9746

3 жыл бұрын

What if you don’t have friends 🙈🤣 asking for a friend

@Chocobollz

3 жыл бұрын

One day in the near future: "Comes with a built-in AI friend (for you who don't have one)" 😏

Professional driver on closed course. Do not attempt.

Steve's hatred of the Google Stadia controller warms my heart.

@iwsfg

3 жыл бұрын

Gave me a good laugh

@furykillerBZ

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna comment "wow, Steve's disdain of a product fills me with joy" and then I saw someone beat me to it

@thegreatnexus4207

3 жыл бұрын

same here 🙏

"oh a new GN video" dremel spins up "so it's going to be one of those."

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

WE MEET AGAIN, ADVENTURER.

@anirudhprabhu8521

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Ikxi

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus 69 likes . . . ~nice~

@GearGolemTMF

3 жыл бұрын

Awww yisss. Tech Jesus taking stuff apart.

There was no "Do Not Tear Up" sticker I see.

Visible screws are underrated.

@adamnizami8770

3 жыл бұрын

True I don't know anyone who actually cares about how a controller looks the that extreme of a degree

@SiriusXification

3 жыл бұрын

@@dmitriysychov6195 Dirt will also gather in the seams of the plastic panels, though.

@AnonymousYoutuber69

3 жыл бұрын

@@SiriusXification The controller should just be exposed PCB

@nO_d3N1AL

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree. 99.9999% aren't going to take it apart so it's more pleasing to the average user. And taking it apart isn't exactly hard anyway

@roderick6113

3 жыл бұрын

#makescrewsvisibleagain

Steve: "can be potentially damaged if necessary" Dremel: heavy breathing

maybe i'm just getting old but i'm really impressed by the technology that has been put into a controller

Tweezers with Flux on them? Louis Rossmann would approve

@mjc0961

3 жыл бұрын

The bigger the glob, the better the job.

Steve: Cuts off cables from the trigger Everyone: Triggered

@shaneeslick

3 жыл бұрын

I was saying 😱😱😱😱😱😱 'Cut the Red, No, Cut the Red' as I was worried when he cut the Black wire that a Bomb was going to go off 💥

@greenrada509

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, noob question here! but what happened after he cut the cable?

@SilhouetteBrick

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenrada509 He was just cutting them off rather than de-soldering them. De-soldering would be neater, but would take more time. He’s cut the wire close to the base of the PCB so there is enough slack and wire to strip off the ends and re-solder them later if needed.

@greenrada509

3 жыл бұрын

@@SilhouetteBrick Ahh ok, thanks for the explanation! Based on how people responsed, I thought it would create a short circuit or something lol

@shaneeslick

3 жыл бұрын

@@greenrada509 Did you watch the video? the controller is Dead, but Steve said he isn't going to rebuild it anyway, but leave it in pieces for reference later, The Triggered reference is for those who wanted a PS5 but missed out due to not enough supply seeing Steve Kill the Controller

"We found the glue." I laughed harder than I should have.

@mehutolkki3232

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe a gamers nexus t-shirt with that sentence for next gen gamers? 😍

@pandapolygon

3 жыл бұрын

stfu

@yngfljm2277

3 жыл бұрын

@@pandapolygon no u

@boosteddaily1294

3 жыл бұрын

lol?

Looks to me like the rumble "motors" are very similar to a linear actuator, and the metal parts on the ends are springs, which mean that each one can vary not only in frequency but also in intensity, where older controllers have 2 offset weights of varying mass so they only have frequency and a low\high intensity option, and they're usually on opposite sides, meaning that left in high and right is low. This should really allow them to do some interesting things with their "rumble" functionality. I see someone used the term "transducer" lower on the page, and I suppose that these are quite similar to the transducers used to make the beeps for most electronics, just much larger and presumably lower frequency.

@xXSinForLifeXx

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think another term is voice coil actuator . They been using them in VR controllers for years it's way better than normal rumble.

@SeeWildlife

3 жыл бұрын

I was surprised to see these. I use transducers on my gaming set-up. These look like mini versions of them, impressive.

@gravityman46

3 жыл бұрын

I was pretty disappointed that he didn't pay more attention to what I think was the only truly interesting component in the teardown.

@KillahMate

3 жыл бұрын

They are actually voice coils. They can be used as speaker drivers because of their large frequency range - they're precise enough that developers could have the Dualsense output audio without using the speaker if they wanted to. In fact Sony engineers even mentioned that in the API the haptics can receive audio as input, for maximum precision.

@m1l3s27

3 жыл бұрын

@@gravityman46 the geared mechanism to apply resistance isn’t interesting? Both are new for a controller on a mainline system

The engineering on this thing is genuinely impressive and gives a different and more understanding view on the $70 price point.

@brenlouissurio2404

3 жыл бұрын

I'll get one for PC lol. Hope Steam would support it already so I can replace my PS4 controller.

@leoshork

2 жыл бұрын

This video made me super happy for having found one brand-new on Ebay for 49.99€. It seems to be amazing value for the amount of features and engineering involved. On Amazon here in EU the white variant costs at least 99.99€. Now, I really hope I'll never have to disassemble it to fix stick drift, but at least they've been mindful enough not to fill it with glue.

@AdamMi1

Жыл бұрын

@LeonardoGualandris in case you get stick drift you can spray some contact spray in them and it will fix it for a few months

I’m really new to Gamer’s Nexus, but this seems like it will be very beautiful and I’m glad I’m here for this. Thanks for all your work Steve, and to the whole Gamer’s Nexus team.

@smartgorilla

3 жыл бұрын

Meh. Looks like a bar of soap. Xbox one is more grippy.

@frenchlasagna8138

3 жыл бұрын

@@smartgorilla xboxs controller are exactly the opposite. Ever since the first xbox.

@smartgorilla

3 жыл бұрын

@@frenchlasagna8138 they have screws outside

@icaruswindrune7116

3 жыл бұрын

@@smartgorilla A lot of reviewers have noted that while the PS5's Dual Sense has a more glossy finish instead of a matte one - the entire bottom part of the shell is textured with play station symbols for more grip. I would recommend watching Innocenceii's video on the PS5 unboxing since he shows a picture of the texturing and also tried to show it on camera (albeit the camera would not focus enough).

@Xwartu

3 жыл бұрын

@beef business ?

The Glue Detective on the case!

@defeqel6537

3 жыл бұрын

"Show me the glue!"

26:47 I'm fairly certain those metal disks are flat-springs, and that vibration is a linear actuator style, so, basically, instead of having coil springs or something else on the ends, those flat spiral springs do the same job in a lot less space.

@theayuwoki3569

11 ай бұрын

So, there's no motor inside?

Steve in the beginning: "Oh good. We didn't break anything." Steve by the end: "Get the Dremel."

I’m a bit surprised that the housing opened relatively easily. Means that in the future, if necessary, you’ll be able to replace the battery in the controller. Also battery size is pretty big, that’s a good step from Sony too. Overall, really, props to Sony for making it, at least seemingly, kinda repair friendly (if it will come to that).

@Havok0159

3 жыл бұрын

The most annoying thing about it is how they have two screws hidden under the shoulder buttons. If you don't know about them you could easily break those two when disassembling.

@SteelSkin667

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully people will replace their battery instead of buying brand new controllers. PS3 controllers have become extremely difficult to find, because people have been tossing them when the battery stopped holding a charge. And yet, while it isn't meant to be user-replaceable, the battery very easy to replace. Same with the PS4 controller. Although the best in class are Nintendo, since the Wii U gamepad, Wii U pro Controller and Switch Pro controller all feature batteries that is user-replaceable. In fact both generations of Pro controller are using the same battery as in the GBA SP.

@g7lethal

3 жыл бұрын

why xbox has the best setup, just let the player use a rechargeable kit thats easy to swap, sony made nothing simple here

@mr.davemaeen8136

3 жыл бұрын

Also easy to unplug the mic ;)

18:50 Its just a Flex PCB with carbon contact pads. The carbon ink can be put on any PCB. Just an electrotech but thats the name i know (edit, the things you call ribbon cable are also probably technically flexes, or flat flex, ribbon cables are generally old school individual wires. Generally probably just refer to them all as 'a flex')

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the key words and information! It helps us search these things to learn more about them for next time. I thought it was carbon contacts, so that's good to know. Also useful to have the Flex PCB naming.

@mycosys

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus Pleasure to be of help. TY for giving a rats about getting stuff right, and for providing some of the most information dense tech videos around. May i ask what was the big structure on on top of the shield the center of the main PCB between the thumbsticks? it just disappeared without a mention. Kinda cool to see the 2 Realtek audio codecs there, lots of 'audio' channels to drive the haptics, possibly does ADC for the analog joysticks too. Makes total sense but somehow was surprised by off the shelf realteks lol.

@yngfljm2277

3 жыл бұрын

You mean FFC (Flexible Flat Cables)?

@BRUXXUS

3 жыл бұрын

I recently learned of the naming convention for these after watching an EEVblog video about using a flex PCB in a design to save space. Super interesting.

@romeucapelasa

3 жыл бұрын

Weird flex but ok

26:20 oh, interesting they're using actuators for the rumble. Guess that explains how they got it so "detailed"

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for help with the keyword!

@WarisAmirMohammad

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus yeah the tube in which the mass is suspended may contain a voice coil

@startedtech

3 жыл бұрын

@@GamersNexus oops, I think I could've been clearer. While they are still transducers, now that I think about it the proper term is a voice coil actuator. Other guy reminded me!

@98dizzard

3 жыл бұрын

They're quite nice, by the looks of it they will be able to make very complex and detailed rumble feedback. They look like they will also have a resonant frequency for when they just want the controller to shake around. Certainly a step up from an off centre weight on a motor. Not sure about the direction they are actuating in though, I would have thought up/down in the hand would have provided more feedback.

@bakedandsteaked

3 жыл бұрын

I wish there was a note detailed look for that part. So this functions much like a speaker? A weight in the center is being moved using an electromagnet, coils of wire in the casing, while being suspended by the "springs" on each side. Is this correct?

Steve, I really appreciate the approach of you giving a close up shot of the particular part that you are reading the part number for, thank you for doing the slight change, I imagine there will probably be literally 12 people who use your video as a reference for that but it is going to help them a lot

Manufacturers: embedding microphones and cameras into everything Me: could you not?

@sownheard

3 жыл бұрын

Meh

@Lishtenbird

3 жыл бұрын

@Hazard Mechanical modification that likely voids warranty in most countries doesn't sound appealing, even if it is possible. Especially if some games then ask for sound input as part of gameplay.

@Safetytrousers

3 жыл бұрын

I'd love if someone was interested in what I was saying. Although I do have a habit of chanting all my bank details.

@virtualtools_3021

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lishtenbird do you really think diehard privacy activists care about warranties?

@pedrovieira8602

3 жыл бұрын

Microfone is """for online chat"""

I feel like several people cringed when the side cutters & Dremel came out lol

@shaneeslick

3 жыл бұрын

I got Wide Eyes & a BIIIG Smile 😀😀😀😀😀

@Havok0159

3 жыл бұрын

You mean cheered enthusiastically? Unless they happened to be new to GN.

@nfijef

3 жыл бұрын

Science is painful, someone's gotta do it, haha.

The shot sound from metal gear solid when cutting the cable is a very nice touch

The haptic feedback on these things is a GAME CHANGER. Literally. It is so dope.

Best controller reviews, the Dremel really helps! Honestly, the only console I ever use is the Switch, but these are so much fun to watch!

No need for sleep when GN uploads :D

@ReasonX3

3 жыл бұрын

It's very comfortable when you live somewhere in Europe and it is 10 am :)

@Xwartu

3 жыл бұрын

Your pfp really bringing some nostalgia. Cardjitsu is when boys became men.

we need to compile all the times that Steve talks about glue into a video :P

@TedTheHobbyist

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they should stick a bunch of Steve glue moments together eh

He just looks so happy at the end of the video! I love seeing him doing what he loves.

I have been waiting a looong time for someone to get inside the haptic motors on this thing. Thank you!

"Welcome to Gamers Nexus, where we play no games but only run benchmarks. And tear down gamepads." LOL XD

@GameslordXY

3 жыл бұрын

@MrGhost370 If you say so. Richard Ledbetter openly called Steve brilliant. That said, Digital Foundry is explaining things better than Gamers Nexus. Steve just shows results and relies upon Lows way to much imo since those can be misleading,just like the averages can be, while Digital Foundry explains and shows examples in hopes that people will understand what the heck are they talking about. I guess Gamers Nexus is for more advanced users that understand all the terminology perfectly. Neither is perfect. But I personally prefer Digital Foundry. Steve is alo great in his own way. :)

Love these videos. Seems like a fairly sensible design that's reasonably user-repairable. Yes, we got the dremmel out, but there's no way with an internal design like that, the rumble-thingies are definitely something you'd replace as a whole unit.

That two metal pieces in the haptic feedback motor are so called flextures (or compliant mechanism) basically a type of axial spring (in this form) . Meaning that what was suspended between them was probably a stack of magnets (on second thought probably works just with a metal stack to) . That will be moved by a coil inside the outside housing.

Amazing! Never thought I'd be finish watching this video!

Honestly, I'm just glad the finger grips for the triggers are integrated into the whole trigger assembly. Getting the damn triggers to stay in place during reassembly was the most annoying part of working on a PS4 controller.

@James_Bee

3 жыл бұрын

Ha! Indeed.

The touchpad "left and right click" mentioned is actually for the pause and share buttons. I think the touchpad based left/right clicks by just sensing where the finger was touching the pad.

@LamontJohnson23

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, I was gonna say the same thing. Surprised he didn't see that. They are almost the same on the DS4

The new post work you guys are adding into the videos is hilarious. I laugh every time I hear/see the gunshot

Dr. Emel is always so precise, I love it

"Microphone to chat with friends... need to have them" Me: Ow Steve. That was just low... but accurate.

where did they dig up the 1990s grey plastic for that battery.

@GamersNexus

3 жыл бұрын

Looks a lot like some of the old Nintendo coloring!

@startedtech

3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly both the Dualshock 3 and 4 use the same plastic for the battery cover.

@LevisL95

3 жыл бұрын

Some Olympus cameras have the same color battery. They must have this stuff stashed in Japan somewhere!

@WayStedYou

3 жыл бұрын

Melted PS1s

Now this is the DualSense review I was looking for!

these guys honestly deserve so many more subscribers, I fking love yall

Dual Sense Vibration Motor: *Exists GN: "So you have chosen dremel..."

When in doubt, dremel it out.

KUDOS. you are the only youtuber who has the guts to open the new rumble motor. Thank you.

You are first who disassembly the "rumble motor". And unlike others who opened the controller, you found it was not a DC motor. It looks like a system that uses the electromagnetic field not to rotate but to move the mass sideways or along the axis of symmetry. Thank you very much!!! . I really wanted to see what was inside

When I heard the Socom gunshot from MGS1 I knew this was gonna be good.

"Chat online with friends [3] (need to have them)" Oh, this is gonna be good!

Steve:- Oh! it's glued in there. controller:- my time has come!

That intro really set the expectations high for a clean tear-down. but no in all seriousness, you're actually really good at this, lot of fun to watch. And gonna be honest (don't tell this to any other tech tubers), out of all tech tubers you guys are probably the most entertaining and funny, a lot of others try to be funny, but they're just not good at it.

"Circle, square, triangle, _x_ " GG on seeing the pattern

21:38 I was really hoping for a double kill edit here, but still pretty good

Getting some Surgeon Simulator flashbacks at the end there. But in all seriousness, this is really cool, pulling back and seeing the internals of the device.

I love you Gamers Nexus, you do the lords work!

I love the sound of a dremel at 3AM!

There should be a "WASTED" animation for when Steve cuts the cables hahaha

I really like these disassembly videos.

FINALLY i can see those adaptive motors inside love u

For 9 minutes I was like "why didn't you watch Ben Hecks' tear-down, you start with the buttons or you'll break it!". Then I was like "Steve found them before breaking anything, what a boss!"

Hi Steve! I'm pretty sure that the sheet you're talking about is just a conductive membrane like you would see in membrane keyboards. Stores selling replacement parts for the Ps4 often seem to call them conductive films, but I haven't seen that phrasing used in other electronics with similar parts.

Now this is what I call a tear down!!!

Bro the suttle humor of you letting the guts of that controller hit the floor. That shit had me chucklin

Drinking game for PS5 Teardown/Thermal testing: Take a shot everytime Steve says “liquid metal”

I can't wait for an LN2 based tear down of literally anything.

@jefferywdonald

3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the how to on removing the metal plates on dram modules? It features liquid nitrogen...

Bro the Stadia controller bit had my ROLLING XD big love Mr. Tech Jesus

Wow! You absolutely müllered that beautifully assembled voice coil motor in the end!

Steve: this is not a tutorial Also steve: reading every single digit of the singular components on the pcb to the viewers 😂

Hmm doesn't look too bad to me. Glue is just a double-sided tape and only on the rumble motor, which is unlikely to fail. The leads to those motors are soldered on, which is not too difficult to resolder. And I don't I would be able to fix the motors anyway. I thought we'd need a dremel to remove the frame/cover at first ....

@98dizzard

3 жыл бұрын

Those transducers should be pretty reliable, 9/10 times you want to get in to fix anything it will be the switches or the battery.

Great Job! I really didn't expect the triggers to use a ring and pinion in for the resistance. At first sight it looked like a sun and worm gear (which would make more sense in my head). But now I have a much better idea what the difference between "haptic" and "rumble" is. Looks like it's just more weights for different vibration strength and frequency. Thanks again.

The 'screw' on the motor is a worm gear. Lots of gear reduction in a compact space. Great stuff!

Yes, police, I'd like to report a murder.

Steve: "We found the glue" Controller: "MY VITAL ORGANS!!!!"

the slow shots of steve cutting the cable 😂 love this channel

Steve's sarcasm warms my heart.

Steve: "Shows the corpse of the Stadia Controller" Me: "I fear the worst for the PS5 controller"

21:00 That is a worm drive, based on the Archemedes screw. Looks like its changing the angle of rotation and slowing the speed from the motor to the trigger assembly. Worm gears are great in high torque but also have increased friction. What kind of plastic are the gears made out of? The screw should be slightly harder than the gear and a thin coat of lubricant or low friction material on the screw wouldn't be a bad idea.

Can't wait for that PS5 teardown

"...3, *you need to have them*" That was masterful and it flew way too under the radar

@DimIsHigh

3 жыл бұрын

Also, use the blue pickssssss!!

"Lithium polymer I'm guessing..." Says Li-ion right below... 🤓

Built in Microphone ready to always listen and ban you if it thinks you said a gamer word

@Safetytrousers

3 жыл бұрын

You need to be taught.

The first 48 seconds are gold

Dremel-kun the best Side-Character in Gamers Nexus videos.

I would rather have extra back buttons than 4 motors for vibrations that I always turn off.

@xXSinForLifeXx

3 жыл бұрын

I always turn off current controller vibration aswell tbh. But the tech used in the ps5 is way better than that shitty rumble. I have used the same tech in VR controllers and it's alot better but it's up to you.

Come on man I’m watching the end of unus annus now :( I watch after

@LargoFan2000

3 жыл бұрын

Momento Mori

@teddygoboom1

3 жыл бұрын

Ah sounds cool I'll look that up once I finish this vid

@ImReign

3 жыл бұрын

Momento Mori

The dramatic slow motion when you cut the cables was not something I knew I wanted until I had it

Why do you keep me up late watching a video I will never need? I've never used a controller and never will but still watch this lol.

"Screw you, Steve!" - Some PS5 designers, probably

@shanesnover4048

3 жыл бұрын

If I designed that active trigger resistance assembly, I'd be so pleased to see this opened up for the world to see. That compact design is excellent!

Why couldn't they just screw it together like in the old days? Consumers should be able to repair the product they purchased

@LeReVaQ

3 жыл бұрын

more flush finish and a better looking product which is more dust and water proof I guess

Stevie McB, your comedic writing/improv for example with the controller is highly underrated. Freakin hilarious.

Loved the bangs, made me laugh out loud

Cool video dude!

The engineering on the controller is fascinating.

I saw the carcass of this controller teased in a previous video, this should be good!

Why am I watching this? Is this a good life choice for my time? My GOD! What have I done. Oh hey that is a nice magnifying glass, I need one of those. Thanks GN content is always relevant to me in some way or another.

0:04, That gunshot Metal Gear reference. I see that you're a man of culture, GN.

Looking at the inside here it takes me back to when the old original NES controllers were around. I could open those up and understand every component in them... these days though.... controllers have more in them than systems used to. Pretty impressive tech in a modern controller.

This just makes me glad I've had one console controller have a single minor issue (thumb stick drifting/sloppiness) in my 20 years of using them.

The part you refer to in the trigger as a "plastic screw" is a worm gear. I work in a company where we specialize in producing and running the tooling for high tolerance parts like that. The molds are somewhat complicated as they need to rotate at the same pitch of the gear to be able to eject it when the mold opens and they can have anywhere from 4 to 16 cavities that all need to move in unison. Neat stuff for sure.