Sony legend continues - The MDR-Z1R Headphones Review

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It has been over a decade since Sony has released a true, high-end headphone flagship. I have a look at whether these make for a true successor to legends such as the MDR-R10.
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  • @Currawong
    @Currawong7 жыл бұрын

    Please check my gear list (also in my Head-Fi profile) to see what headphones and other products I have or have used BEFORE asking how the Z1R compares or works with something. headphone-earphone.reviews/about/. If I don't have/haven't used something, I can't answer your question. Thanks.

  • @trevhabekost9476

    @trevhabekost9476

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alien interview

  • @inherent777

    @inherent777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hello, do you sell the Sony mdr-z1r?

  • @bakkermaarten007
    @bakkermaarten0074 жыл бұрын

    Audiophiles can be arrogant sometimes, but you are not. You are very informative without showing off your knowledge. Kudos

  • @malfunkt
    @malfunkt7 жыл бұрын

    Great review Currawong, I prefer your reviewing style and format.

  • @lonestar1664
    @lonestar16647 жыл бұрын

    Another great review, waiting for now an Ether C Flow Review and comparison with Z1R, by the way I follow you on head-fi as well :)

  • @MarceloTezza
    @MarceloTezza7 жыл бұрын

    So in the end, i think this is the perfect headphone for me, really, people is having a hard time to say it, but they are prefering a colored headphone over a transparent because at this level of fidelity the usual problems became quite unnoticeable, and for many hours listenings, the relaxed treeble accomodates. Thank you for the review.

  • @billychristmas
    @billychristmas7 жыл бұрын

    Nice review. Love the history lesson in the beginning. I want some Sony headphones.

  • @theizer7612
    @theizer76127 жыл бұрын

    great review

  • @ajuyal
    @ajuyal7 жыл бұрын

    Great review Amos! Always value your opinion and have been using the Z1Rs for 10 days now and liking them so far. Picked them up (after your headfi thread & video here) at the airport in Singapore, 'burnt' them in on the 14 hrs on SQ32 to San Francisco and then really enjoyed them on the 16+ hrs on SQ31 coming back :-) Listened to them via the Hugo and Dragonfly red and they sounded good. Isolated well on the flight and when I took them off and kept them aside cups together I couldn't hear the music. As a result I never used the Roxanne or 846 also in my bag and which I always use on long flights fatiguing as UIEMs can be. With better resolution and sound stage they significantly upped the music vs my Mezze 99 classics (of course at 5x the price) which have been my go-to closed phones since last year. I am curious how they will sound with other amps both portable or desktop, I did feel at some points of my listening that the Hugo wasn't driving them to their potential but we will see. Any plans to check out the Sony ZH1ES? Thanks again for your reviews and advice

  • @kato2395

    @kato2395

    Жыл бұрын

    Hello good sir, are you still enjoying them after all these years?

  • @jirams41
    @jirams417 жыл бұрын

    My HD800 - a surgeon's knife. My Z1R - when I want to become immersed in the music. Totally agree with your comments. jirams

  • @Floydarn

    @Floydarn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Tyll from inner fidelity wouldn't agree. However we can all say that the HD800 is like a production tool with the details.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    It is interesting that some people who listen with speakers like the Z1R.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Head-Fi measured a production pair and got different results: www.head-fi.org/f/threads/the-official-sony-mdr-z1r-flagship-headphone-thread-live-from-ifa-2016.818846/page-691#post-13547603

  • @Floydarn

    @Floydarn

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sure, but in order for that test to be comparable Tyll would have to test the production model using his own setup. I'm sure there's a lot of factors at play.

  • @ianramsay7306

    @ianramsay7306

    6 жыл бұрын

    I listen 1/2 the time on Dynaudio X14 and the Z1R are very close in sound stage. If I use Z1R in darkened room and can just 'listen' then they are very speakerlike.

  • @Puroplatino
    @Puroplatino Жыл бұрын

    Hey Amos. Great Review albeit’s quite a bit old I am considering getting these. How do they compare to the Meze Liric’s? Thanks for answering.

  • @EITSFan
    @EITSFan7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Currawong, do the pads get warm and sweaty after long listening sessions? Thanks for the informative review I enjoyed it 😊

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Not more than any other pair of leather pads in my experience. But it has been cold here, so not the best time to test that.

  • @bv3bv334
    @bv3bv3342 жыл бұрын

    I have a set...love them. So comfy too. Definite end game for me. Very happy.

  • @precit
    @precit7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Currawong, Terrific review. I wonder if the z1R isolates well enough for office use? Currently use IEMs which isolate well,but fatigue after awhile. Thanks.Paul

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Should be, depending on your office, if you don't listen LOUD.

  • @TheFijianGuy
    @TheFijianGuy6 жыл бұрын

    You should be a audiophile professor you explain things amazingly. Thank you for the time you take to review headphones for dummys like me.

  • @arongatt
    @arongatt6 жыл бұрын

    most of my listening is for fun and relaxing so i do prefer a bit more of a V or W sound sig of cans... i heard these and kudos to Sony​ cos they sound really great.

  • @AndrewWu0730
    @AndrewWu07307 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! What do you think of these compared to the AudioTechnica W3000ANV? I've been eyeing the MDR-Z1R but I'm concerned that the Z1R won't bring enough new to the table for its cost since I already own the W3000ANV. My general guess after your video and reading various impressions is that the Sony would likely bring better bass and soundstage but the mids would not be as nice.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was quite a while ago I owned the W3000ANV. I didn't find them to be that resolving, though I suppose for the price they aren't bad. I had trouble getting a good seal, so the bass was inadequate for me. The Z1R will indeed be totally different. The music where you want the bass kick, albeit not too much of it, is where these really shine indeed.

  • @jjrosaria
    @jjrosaria6 жыл бұрын

    Great review!! I’m thinking of getting a set of headphone. I prefer closed. I have 2 choices in mind at the moment. This Sony or the Shure SRH1540. Any chance you’ve listened to the Shure? Unfortunately I can’t directly listen to the Sony as I have to get it from Australia (you sound like you’re from Australia. I’m from NZ and unfortunately we don’t have it in our Sony stores) it’ll be interesting to get an input from you. Cheers

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    I only listened to the Shure many years ago and I just don't remember what they were like. They might be a good candidate for a future review though.

  • @functionaldoc5054
    @functionaldoc50547 жыл бұрын

    Another great review. So if your going for 2k$ headphone these or the Ether Flow on a soild state amp ? Are the Z14 worth 4x the price of the Z7? Really does a $500-700$ Kimber cable make that much audible difference ? Love to see blind testing with 10 people and listen with 2 different types of cables. I have some custom cables but made with T2 copper and balanced connectors but were $150. Better pairing with tube amp or would it be too warm ? Thanks for the great reviews Amos.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to bust the myth of tube amps being "warm". A lot are tuned that way, but you can make a solid state amp sound warm too. I reckon using them with an amp that suits your needs would be the way to go. I think at some point they exceed what the Z7s can do, but at exactly what budget point I'm not sure. That might make for a good video though. As for cables, in retrospect, I wouldn't buy the Kimber again (it is my Z7 cable, and didn't cost anywhere near $500) but talk to one of the various people I know who make aftermarket cables and see what they can make. It would be a lot cheaper and probably a better match.

  • @fitfit1288
    @fitfit12887 жыл бұрын

    Any chance you'll be doing a review of the ZMF Eikons any time soon? I really enjoy your reviews :)

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a plan to, but since I get asked almost daily about them, I'll see what I can do about borrowing a pair for review.

  • @fitfit1288

    @fitfit1288

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I hope it works out :)

  • @trybeingakr
    @trybeingakr7 жыл бұрын

    Another great review. Do you mind focusing on mid-fi too, like the 600s, 650s the recent monolith m1060s, in addition to these high end headphones?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have the K7XX here, which I should review -- I keep forgetting. A good HD6X0 review would be worth doing indeed. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @trybeingakr

    @trybeingakr

    7 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to those reviews as I myself own a pair of K7XX and HD650.

  • @halimj7
    @halimj75 жыл бұрын

    Bismillah I would love to hear your opinion on how these compare with the cascade. Please. Thanks for another great video

  • @finnjake6174

    @finnjake6174

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bismillah, 12:21 and 74:30 and 28:9

  • @finnjake6174

    @finnjake6174

    5 жыл бұрын

    And 19:19 births.

  • @hscd761
    @hscd7616 жыл бұрын

    excellent review , may ask what is the name of the headphone holders name or type you have hoked to your table behind you? that would be perfectly with my set up too...

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    They aren't made any more but they are from a company in Korea called Codia, and they used to be sold on eBay.

  • @paulchiu
    @paulchiu7 жыл бұрын

    Currawong, What are those beefy looking headphone hooks behind you? Thanks!

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Koss Hold-a-fone. Don't think they are made any more.

  • @choppersplace
    @choppersplace7 жыл бұрын

    nice review, Currawong...there has been lots of mention on headfi that the stock cable is premium, or isnt't allowing these cans to show their full potential...cables are always such a dicey subject (double blind testing for me, please, to show real vs placebo diffs)...did you ever ask the maker/chief designer/engineer about these cables at some recent canjam meeting?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I didn't get around to it, but I still suspect that the reason is primarily robustness, going by the materials used.

  • @IR-xy3ij

    @IR-xy3ij

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cables don't matter --- I've specifically tested (with my eyes closed, in order to eliminate confirmation bias)stock cable vs silver dragon on the HD800S, and turned out I couldn't tell any difference. I do like the shorter length and more robust build of the silver dragon though. But as far as audio quality is concerned, it's a scam.

  • @Nephilim-81
    @Nephilim-817 жыл бұрын

    Your one of my favourite reviewers, Currawong. Thanks my Head-Fi brother. The Z1R's are amazing with the Woo Audio WA 8. Almost as good as the LCD XC's. :)

  • @dante19890
    @dante198906 жыл бұрын

    how are these out of a hugo 2 ? Do they compliment eachother?

  • @bearwarrior2011
    @bearwarrior20117 жыл бұрын

    How does this compare with Ether C Flow? Thanks!

  • @AdrianIII
    @AdrianIII6 жыл бұрын

    Isn't it interesting that "enjoyable" has become the opposite of "neutral."

  • @muna5066

    @muna5066

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's very weird. I feel like if neutral isn't "fun" that's more about you music preference. You don't need headphones to emphasize bass or treble if your music in interesting and dynamic to begin with. I let the artists do that with neutral headphones. I like to have some less neutral headphones around for certain types of music but that doesn't make neutral less fun.

  • @m.g.i2480

    @m.g.i2480

    4 жыл бұрын

    Id rather think neutral has become the opposite of enjoyable. Enjoyable sound mostly is enjoyable at least to me because it does not get too thinny or harsh or overkill in any region. Most "Neutral" headphones and expensive headphones tend to take natural tone, throw it in the bin and then take all the detail and shuff it up your face. That to me is not neutral. HD600 or HD599 even is to me far more neutral than for example a HD800 or an Beyerdynamic DT880... The Philips for example definately isnt neutral. But to my ears is tuned away from neutral in a more pleasurable way than a DT880 or a DT990. (No question the DT880 is very very detailed and the HD800 has spectactular stage and imaging) but to me the detail isnt natural in its potency anymore. A guitar doesnt sound thinny and brilliant. At least my guitars dont. The HD599 to me recreates my guitar recordings the best. Even though i feel that with other music especially voice heavy musich the HD660 is more neutral.

  • @matejbalogh
    @matejbalogh7 жыл бұрын

    Do you remember the difference between these and open Ether flows in terms of soundstage and bass performance? Thanks!

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Ether Flow is a bit more mid-bass focussed, but it isn't excessive relative to the rest of the sound. The Z1R has more significant bass, especially with the Kimber cable on them, and some people would find it too much. I thought the bass was great, noting that I was using a Schiit Audio Yggdrasil and ALO Audio Studio Six, so it would be as tight as it could be. However I liked listening with them when I wanted a lot of bass.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan5 жыл бұрын

    70 mm progressed from: XB1000-MA900-Z7-Z1R-Z7MK2. So yeah, a 8-9 odd driver, start from modern Sony tuning, all they put on the flagship of their line. So probably, if, Sony ever made a new open headphone line, it'd probably also be using the 70.

  • @82223s
    @82223s7 жыл бұрын

    Really nice review! I am a Z1R owner, and I totally agree what you describe about this can. Btw, the cable makes really huge difference for Z1R. I bought a silver/copper hybrid cable for it, this cable bring up the brightness(a lot) and make the bass punchier. And with my fully balance set up, the soundstage is larger than single end(still smaller than hd800 tho). I would say this headphone is really a endgame for me :)

  • @choppersplace

    @choppersplace

    7 жыл бұрын

    which cable? you have to admit, however, it's crazy that one might want to spend another $500 or more on an aftermarket cable to improve the sound....at this price the stock cable (imo) should be equally top notch and paired well to bring out the best in these cans.

  • @82223s

    @82223s

    7 жыл бұрын

    NORNE AUDIO ARCANE

  • @82223s

    @82223s

    7 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree your point, but the stock cable of Z1R is like $100 cable on a $1500 headphone. that's probably worst cable I've ever seen on a high end HP.

  • @fdude555

    @fdude555

    7 жыл бұрын

    You know the headphone sucks when you have to use cables so your imagination can save it.

  • @choppersplace

    @choppersplace

    7 жыл бұрын

    lol...well most people are not trying to 'save it' with cables....seems most people swap out cables with many cans, and these are no exception.

  • @audiogal6977
    @audiogal69777 жыл бұрын

    can you tell me how can i connect to a balanced input if the headphones cable terminates with two 3.5mm, ends? if i have the nfb 28, how do i connect a balanced sony cable (2x3.5mm splits) to a one balanced input? thanks.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    You don't. You buy the correct cable or a different aftermarket cable for them which works with the NFB 28. The dual-3.5mm cable is for Sony players.

  • @totalbliss1
    @totalbliss16 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever heard the Sony R-10, either the bass heavy or light version? If so, I wanted to see if this was finally the product they made that would replace that, or even come close to it. From what I read, it had a lot of euphonics, perhaps colored to give you that enjoyable sound. From your review, I get the impression that this might be trying to attempt that signature sound... although I don't recall it having treble heavy or bright sound. Btw, out of all the headphones and companies flooding the market, Sony iteration of this particular headphone (R10's) is what I'm waiting for...whenever they get around to making it. Sennheiser already made theirs with the Orpheus HE-1, which is ridiculously priced. The balls on Sony's court now to bring out their killer, which according to some stood neck-and-neck with the Orpheus back in the days.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    A friend told me about listening to an earlier prototype of the Z1R that had much nicer tuning than the final production. I very much wish they'd gone for accuracy over trying to mimic obscure studio monitors. I have tried, fairly briefly, both bass-heavy and bass-light R10s, and with the latter, at the time I preferred the Audeze LCD-3 I owned. A friend did not. I do remember them being as resolving as HD800s (my system at the time was not anything like it is now, so take that into consideration) but with a more mellow tuning.

  • @audiogal6977
    @audiogal69777 жыл бұрын

    would you say the Z1R are better than the Aeon by Mr speakers? which one would you choose? or are they very different from each other?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    The Aeon isn't even in production, and I won't get to try them until the end of the month, so you'll have to wait. I don't think I'll be comparing them directly though. Given the price, they'll go up against the Z7 at least.

  • @krewb0ga
    @krewb0ga6 жыл бұрын

    This cans are superb! I love them!

  • @TheFijianGuy
    @TheFijianGuy4 жыл бұрын

    I have to ask what would you prefer at this price range 2k would you stick with the z1r or something else?.. I still remember purchasing my z1r off this review :) I enjoyed them a ton but after a while began questioning the price I paid for them lol

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you enjoy them, I wouldn't think about the money. That seems like you're feeling guilty for enjoying yourself.

  • @Halomaster4ever
    @Halomaster4ever7 жыл бұрын

    So now the question, for the basshead with expensive taste, if you pump a bunch of power into this and EQ everything but the bass down so that the trebles doesn't pierce through your head, will they take it, or will they just start distorting and make everything else sound like it's playing through a fan. The only other can I know that had 70mm drivers was the XB-1000s and they have a very tunnel-like sound, whereas this looks like it would somehow sound good whilst housing massive drivers to make your head shake. An example song is something like "Arctic" by Aether.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    They should take it, if you're using a decent amp that doesn't distort. You'd think the Z1R chassis is more inert. That is something that should show up in measurements, where the 100dB distortion test is better (lower) than the 90dB, all the way down to the low bass.

  • @Halomaster4ever

    @Halomaster4ever

    7 жыл бұрын

    I must admin I didn't know what that was before I read the comment and went away to do some reading haha. Did find a thread online speaking about it and it appears the general consensus was that people were surprised at how bad the numbers come up distortion wise, but for the most part, when listening, no one could really hear anything to complain about in that respect. Could be an interesting end-game and Sony is big enough to have UK retailers also >=D Recently found the IFI Micro iDSD BL and it should take care of all my power and DAC requirements...ever. Thanks for replying and keep up the great review work!

  • @doylehargrave233
    @doylehargrave233 Жыл бұрын

    The Sony R10 (bass heavy) are the ONLY headphones I heard that simply vanished and there was just music…

  • @lisadell1916
    @lisadell19166 жыл бұрын

    Hi I see you have the modified z7. I am thiking of uprading to z1r. Is it worth it? Is there a big difference between modified z7 to z1r? Regards Johan

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember the difference being so huge when I tried it, but it was a while ago.

  • @hansc8400
    @hansc84006 жыл бұрын

    Hi Currawong, Do you think Z1R's low impedance compare with other flagship dynamic-driver headphone is a issue when picking amp? Will NFB-1AMP be a good amp for z1r?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    Not a problem at all. If you look at Sony's PH-series amps, they had very low power outputs and could easily drive the Z7 and Z1R. The NFB-1AMP is more than sufficient.

  • @GMT2019

    @GMT2019

    5 жыл бұрын

    Currawong what amp does the Z1r works best with ?

  • @GMT2019

    @GMT2019

    5 жыл бұрын

    Currawong can a chord Hugo 1 or pha 3 can be a great portable amp too ?

  • @RX-rd4sc
    @RX-rd4sc3 ай бұрын

    Will you ever review denon d7200? And compare it with z1r and z7m2

  • @KS_1990
    @KS_19905 жыл бұрын

    Hello sir, I plan to get the kimber cable for the Z1R, but m not sure whether it's worth the money or not. from ur experience, does the kimber cable make the difference to justify the price? Thank you for ur answer.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you already have an excellent system with which to use the Z1R from which you like the sound, maybe it'd be worth it. The Kimber cable seems to make the sound a bit "warmer" which I think plays to the strengths of the Z1R. I'm not sure if I'd choose it though if I bought an aftermarket cable for them myself. It depends what your goals are.

  • @KS_1990

    @KS_1990

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Currawong I play it with the sony WM1Z. would you still recommend the upgrade cable?

  • @bradd5961
    @bradd59617 жыл бұрын

    Amos, do you have a favourite planar for mids/vocals?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't spent a lot of time with them recently, but previously the Audeze LCD range. The original (non-fazor) LCD-3 was, some years ago, one of my favourite cans for vocals.

  • @billyc3161
    @billyc31616 жыл бұрын

    Having listened to both the Z1r and Hifiman Edition X v2. Which would you pick regarding sound? I have the HD 800s. Which of the 2 would accomadate my Senns?

  • @billyc3161

    @billyc3161

    6 жыл бұрын

    As well as price to performance. Thank you

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    The EDX V2 is quite neutral and I felt a good all-rounder. The Z1R is very coloured, and if you can enjoy its particular tuning, you'll love it, but some people can't stand it. The ED-X it is hard to say how it stands up value-wise, as since I reviewed it some very good $800 headphones have come out. The Sony -- someone found a pair for $1400. I think the full retail price is hard to justify especially giving the issues with the tuning.

  • @williamchen8009
    @williamchen80095 жыл бұрын

    I'm using these with SONY's TA-ZH1ES amplifier. I just got the Z1R for a few days. The sound still doesn't sound that warm to me yet (compare to the Rogers LS3/5A stereo speakers at my home), everything seems to be too harsh and sharp. I hope they will sound better as I breaking them in more.

  • @TheFbiFilesRepeat

    @TheFbiFilesRepeat

    4 жыл бұрын

    An update please :)

  • @krisrudecki9477
    @krisrudecki94773 жыл бұрын

    Wondering how those would compare to Stellias 🤔

  • @der888
    @der8885 жыл бұрын

    Do you need to utilise an amplifier if you run them through a new sony DAP such as a ZX300 Walkman or will they be short on power?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    5 жыл бұрын

    It mostly depends how loud you listen. You can get away with running headphones out of a DAP if you listen fairly quietly, but a desktop rig will almost always give better results (excepting expensive DAPs with high output power).

  • @der888

    @der888

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Currawong thank you for the insight 👍

  • @GMT2019
    @GMT20195 жыл бұрын

    Denon AH D9200 or the Sony mdr z1r better for pop and acoustic?

  • @theprinceofeverything1975

    @theprinceofeverything1975

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just bought the d9200 because of the stellar reviews. Got em from denons website to make sure they were legit and to be honest, they sucked. I felt like crying because the sounded no better than my 350 dollar v moda crossfade 2 wireless. I even paired them with a 15,000 dollar and and still wasn't impressed. Vocals weren't clear and soundstage and imaging was displayed in a very unpleasant way, even after 150 hours of burn in. Still, buy them if you want and please let me know if I'm crazy! Have a good one

  • @kato2395
    @kato23952 жыл бұрын

    This might be a good closed back headphone to add to the collection, the only closed back I found appealing so far.

  • @worakotthai
    @worakotthai Жыл бұрын

    How many hours to burn in?

  • @piotrosinski-petestradamus6204
    @piotrosinski-petestradamus62047 жыл бұрын

    I have these suckers since Feb. Bass wise it's pretty awesome.

  • @judeobi242

    @judeobi242

    6 жыл бұрын

    piotr osinski 💯

  • @JulAlxAU
    @JulAlxAU7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate for the review. How do you think it would stand against NAD HP-50? Tyle have been saying that NAD's are so good that they deliver 95% of the performance of Ether C Flow. So wondering it might be the same for Sony's. Would you mind to share your opinion with us please? Thanks.

  • @TheFijianGuy
    @TheFijianGuy7 жыл бұрын

    Is that earcup plastic? I remember the mesh on the outside of the cup feeling plasticy is it metal or plastic? Cheers.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    The mesh has to be metal. The Yoke is metal but the rest appears to be plastic. I was scratching my head about mentioning it until someone had proper measurements, but I am not sure if there isn't a bit of resonance from the structure, or if it is just the music I listen to.

  • @TheFijianGuy

    @TheFijianGuy

    7 жыл бұрын

    Currawong thanks brother yeah i remember feeling it and it didnt have that cold metal feel to it. (nothing a magnet couldnt solve) the only metal i could really remember was the half yolk that holds the headphone in place (cool and shiny) I did hear multiple things about the mesh i believe someone said it was stainless steel? I dunno but the headphone is amazingly light.. I did feel a bit upset with the amount of plastic it appears to be using the fibonacci grill the cups its well mostly plastic from what I could remember. I did love the earcups but wonder if that lambskin will get hot as time goes by.. Premium headband tons of plastic on the rest of the headphone but hey look at the hd800 mostly plastic but still a classic! The Utopia well thats what you call build quality haha.

  • @GrumpiestKitten

    @GrumpiestKitten

    7 жыл бұрын

    "Build Quality" is *not* the same as the materials chosen for specific parts. Please stop this. Putting tinfoil and cracking wood on everything doesn't benefit the construction.

  • @fiftyfive5459

    @fiftyfive5459

    7 жыл бұрын

    The fibonacci grill is made of some kind of resin. I'm not sure.

  • @tommymai3062
    @tommymai30624 жыл бұрын

    Planning to use these for sound design. You think it will be suitable ?

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    4 жыл бұрын

    For mixing and mastering? No, they are not suited to that at all.

  • @tommymai3062

    @tommymai3062

    4 жыл бұрын

    Currawong I really like the build quality though :( Your review seems to be accurate from others mentioned the high frequencies seems to be dark and tammed. Do you think pairing this with the Sony TA ZH1es amp will open up the sound for more precise monitoring? Thank you your response.

  • @kato2395
    @kato23952 жыл бұрын

    Hi is this Sony still in your collection? Just wondering if you think this is worth keeping after all these years and a bunch of new headphones.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    2 жыл бұрын

    I borrowed it from a friend for the review, so I've long not had it here.

  • @kato2395

    @kato2395

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Currawong Thanks for clarifying!

  • @matejbalogh
    @matejbalogh7 жыл бұрын

    I have these for a few hours. I bought them, so long I like them. I don't mind strong bass, actually- I like the bass performance with these. There's a lot of detail in it. 3 kHz peak of these HPs (result of resonance) is more of a deal to me, along with attenuated lower midrange. It colors male voices with strange, shrieky timbre (they sound higher in pitch). This may sound good for some rock music however. high mid/low treble (4,5,6,7 k) attenuation followed by 8,9,10k peak makes for strange timbre in most percussions. They sound hollow, without the usual hit/slam I was used for. This also makes sibilant noises less aggresive (most of the sibilance in vocals lies in the higher mids and lower treble I guess) sounding and puts these instruments/ noises rather backward to the mix. They sound more like a detail to make the mix more interesting rather than the main attraction. I don't think 10k peak adds much sibilance. Guess most of it that's present with Z1R comes from 3k peak. So long- I like electric guitars and female voices with these. They lean on to the aggresive side (maybe because the uneven frequency response?), but still enjoyable and not overly tiring to my ears. Electric guitars remind me of those old Marshall combos. Bass hits with physical impact- I feel it. I like it. Soundstage and separation is great so long. Kinda like helmet of sound with nice depth to it- some things really seem to be further away than others. Nighthawk does this too- maybe it's because attenuated mids? So these do things the other way around compared to most headphones I heard. Most high-end/ mid tier headphones hardly have any bass (I hardly hear melodies in bass spectrum with most other headphones), they only use it to make the final sound more appealing, while much of the energy lies either in mids or in highs- those percussions are bread and butter to many headphones I tried. Melodies and details in the bass spectrum gets lost to me (I can list HD600 and HE400i as an example). The main meal to Z1R are bass guitar and synth melodies, along with some kick drums in the big soundstage, while these only use percussions to make the whole mix a bit more interesting. A thing at the address of isolation measurement at innerfidelity- I also happen to own Nighthawks. They measure at -12dB of ambient noise attenuation. Z1R measure at -14 dB. Thing is, these Z1Rs seem to me as much better isolating pair than Nighthawks. Is the 2 dB difference really that big, or is there some problem with measurement? a lil thing of notice- these look great in my hands, but they look so dumb on my noggin. Kinda like huge, black, cyclopean nipples. Tilted drivers hit my ears a bit at the front. I have average ears.

  • @kato2395

    @kato2395

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very detailed impression however I am a little bit confused when you say the headphone is without the usual hit/slam but then you said that the bass hits with physical impact. Can you elaborate more about this?

  • @vincenzopromedia
    @vincenzopromedia4 ай бұрын

    I wonder if any the differences you mention are noticeable to the untrained ear like mine that just likes how expensive these headphones are.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    4 ай бұрын

    That's a good point. It'll depend a lot on the quality of the music too.

  • @MarkRoberts-bj2me
    @MarkRoberts-bj2me4 жыл бұрын

    An old timer here that does not believe in "streaming". Marantz SA-7S1 DSD Player - Aesthetix Calypso Signature Linestage (NOS Tubes (2) Philips Holland SQ E188CC & (2) Mullard CV4004) - EAR HP-4 (4) NOS RCA VT-229) - Sony Zed = Analogue Heaven playing Classic Rock even without an herbal supplement. IC's by Van den Hul and the Kimber Headphone Cable. With the decrease in price and for those that prefer a warmish, musical and non-fatiguing SS picking up a pair of these cans is a no-brainer. Yeah, this cat is still grooving to the 60's and 70's vibe since it sure beats the hell out of the present.

  • @podcastatlantis7661
    @podcastatlantis76617 жыл бұрын

    I think the Sony MDR-Z1R is better off for being entertaining vs neutral as I don't think any closed-back could beat an open-back chasing pure neutrality at a medium to flagship price level. Based on various accounts and reviews closed-back headphones seem to hit a high end engineering wall much sooner. However, I have more need of a closed-back vs open-back for most times dunning headphones, so that makes the MDR-Z1R my next headphone to test drive / purchase. And sometimes entertaining is more fun than neutral if the neutral headphone lacks a bit of energy or is just to the side of too reserved.

  • @johnyang799

    @johnyang799

    7 жыл бұрын

    Podcast Atlantis Try ether c. Sony is a joke sadly.

  • @johnyang799

    @johnyang799

    7 жыл бұрын

    Podcast Atlantis But you may try to see if you like it.

  • @podcastatlantis7661

    @podcastatlantis7661

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yes I've been turned onto some of MrSpeakers other models lately

  • @nihilionsaro
    @nihilionsaro7 жыл бұрын

    I guess the 4.4mm balanced cable is a good way to go; it's just annoying that that all the balanced gear presently is XLR. And just on principle I'm not paying $200 bucks for a damn cable (how much a balanced xlr cable costs).

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    There is plenty of single-ended gear out there I reckon. Hopefully this year the popular manufacturers can come out with Pentaconn versions of their products.

  • @eyesintheskies
    @eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын

    A local pawnbroker has a pair of these going for about half of retail price. Would you trust buying these used or recommend saving and buying straight from Sony (warranty etc…)

  • @kuzia1984
    @kuzia19845 жыл бұрын

    The acoustic chambers of the Z7s are Magnesium, not plastic.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    5 жыл бұрын

    Whoops, you're probably right. The thinness and coating makes them seem like plastic though.

  • @audioramplify
    @audioramplify7 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how people diss the Z7 when they obtain a higher priced headphone.

  • @judeobi242

    @judeobi242

    6 жыл бұрын

    audioramplify not diss, I have been seeing my xba z5 for so long and I haven't heard any headphone that sounds better on till I brought the z1r.

  • @gli7utubeo
    @gli7utubeo7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome phones. Like speakers. No fatigue. Lots of definition. Nice review. My only disagreement is that they are not grating at all; just the opposite.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Well, I had Utopias on hand at the same time, so it is all relative.

  • @gli7utubeo

    @gli7utubeo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Currawong Hi there. 4 years on and still have Z1Rs and (long-term) Utopias, and still gravitate to the Z1Rs.

  • @johnmcfads5304
    @johnmcfads53042 жыл бұрын

    Nice tubes

  • @miyamotoclan5054
    @miyamotoclan50547 жыл бұрын

    HD800/Z1R = HD800S ?

  • @johnyang799

    @johnyang799

    7 жыл бұрын

    Miyamoto Clan No. But 800s alone is ok. The combination of hd800 and z1r is nightmare.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan5 жыл бұрын

    This has been going for 1399-1699 now, much better deal.

  • @haydenwittig8877
    @haydenwittig88776 жыл бұрын

    Australians pay ridiculous amounts of money on the sony site AU 2300 bux wow that's money many cant afford, Im a big Sony fan but really that's big dollars.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's crazy. In some ways I'm glad I don't live in Australia any more. If I still did, I'd save the difference between the cost of gear I want from overseas and what I'd have to pay to buy it in Australia and fly somewhere nice and buy it instead.

  • @nayuki2020
    @nayuki20205 жыл бұрын

    Guess you have to run noise reduction on your recording.. It's hissing

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, unfortunately. The microphone I was using at the time picked up a lot of noise. I now use a different set-up which has doesn't have any hiss.

  • @nayuki2020

    @nayuki2020

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Currawong nice

  • @davidsmith790
    @davidsmith7906 жыл бұрын

    Focal Clear = best ever!

  • @davidryan5482

    @davidryan5482

    5 жыл бұрын

    Compared to what?

  • @TheFbiFilesRepeat

    @TheFbiFilesRepeat

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chomzoo 72 he said that to feel great about his buy

  • @samlee2562
    @samlee25624 жыл бұрын

    Can you please come and explain to my girlfriend why these are the "bargain option" 😘👍

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Show her what Susvaras cost!

  • @bestintentions6089
    @bestintentions60895 жыл бұрын

    earboob headphones

  • @slowmopoke
    @slowmopoke7 жыл бұрын

    Receipt number: K9M3R37W9ECQN3N249B0?

  • @fdude555
    @fdude5557 жыл бұрын

    You look like bill o reilly

  • @peterpamlockwood
    @peterpamlockwood5 жыл бұрын

    what AMP do you use?.$120?....$1000?.....$2000?....$3000? ....What is the source of your music...." Compressed Bloated downloaded files" ?? headphone ONLY reproduce what is Feed into them!!!

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    5 жыл бұрын

    www.hear.reviews/about/currawong/

  • @hpol3603
    @hpol36037 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Tyll from innerfidelity. I don't like the Sony. I own the Focal Utopia Headphone.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    For me personally too, I prefer the Utopia. I'm not disappointed that Sony decided to do something different than everyone else was doing though. I just wish they'd done a better job of it.

  • @matejbalogh

    @matejbalogh

    7 жыл бұрын

    So you didn't like the Z1R? I got kinda different idea when watching your review.

  • @Currawong

    @Currawong

    7 жыл бұрын

    I liked the Z1Rs in some respects, but not others. If I wanted to rock out with some music, then I enjoyed them. For music where pure refinement was important, not so much, which is what has come up in the measurements.

  • @a5kobe313

    @a5kobe313

    7 жыл бұрын

    so what does not liking the sony have to do with owning an utopia?

  • @JohnEthan777

    @JohnEthan777

    6 жыл бұрын

    A5 Kobe At this tier, though the utopias are much more expensive and amp picky, they are the only two dynamics in a mostly planar dominated market, so its kinda between those two, though the utopias pretty much destroy anything paired with the right setup...

  • @c29395
    @c293956 жыл бұрын

    He lost me when he said zed. 🤢

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