[Overheating test info below!!!] I have listened to many videos talking about overheating issue with the a6700, but you need to take these informations with some precaution. It is hardly depens of what kind of shooting and settings you are using. I am glad that this did not stop me from buying the device as the way i am using it, overheating would be probably hardly an issue for me. One thing you have to consider is all is about compromise. So if you want the longest shooting times, you need to make sure that you are not using anything that could makes overheating higher. Here are a list of potential candidate (additionnal tests needed to confirm this) to make overheating worst: using high compression codec like h265 (XAVC HS 4K), using external HDMI, using external usb-c PD (camera operation would need potential voltage conversion creating heat?), using lcd higher display brightness (sunlight), using wifi/bluetooth, using evf with high frame rate, disable camera power save mode, etc. I made some testing using airplane mode on, no hdmi connection, shooting 4k video in default camera shooting mode, tested on a fully charged battery with no usb connection, lcd in default mode, not using evf at all (lcd always on), lcd fully opened and battery door opened to make heat a way to evacuate as much as possible. I used XAVC S 4K codec for all these 3 first tests. The camera has been updated with latest 1.01 firmware. I used the default 16-50 power zoom lens that came with my camera. warning: these tests are artificial, as i was shooting a still image (with a person) using human recognition autofocus and zebra exposition configured to see when overexposing. In this artificial scenario, where the lens autofocus motor is almost not running (shooting a still image!) and power zoom not used either. These tests were just to check the best possible shooting time i could get. For each test, i am waiting several hours to make sure the camera is at ambient temperature and using a 100% charged battery (coming with the camera). Here are the 3 tests i made and result (using a sandisk v60 extreme pro card), all shooting test made inside at 22C: 4k 24p 100Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 2hr 19mn 49s, no overheating, recording until battery completely exhausted then camera turned off 4k 30p 140Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 2hr 9mn, no overheating, recording until battery completely exhausted then camera turned off 4k 60p 200Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 2hr 4mn, overheating and turning off while there was around 1% battery left! In my case, the only long shooting situation i may have are inside at this temperature most of the time. Outside, i would never shoot for a long time but only for short clip at a time while the camera is turned off to cool down. So for my use case with 4k video, this is more than enough for me. Understand that these are optimal shooting times, but there is plenty of margin for me. Doing the same test with exactly the same setup conditions of the camera, but using instead the h265 XAVC HS 4K: 4k 24p 100Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 2hr 16mn, no overheating, recording until battery completely exhausted then camera turned off 4k 60p 200Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 23mn 32s, overheating and turning off (battery at 77% left!)! Doing the same test with exactly the same setup conditions of the camera, but using instead the h264 XAVC S 4K with a connected 30W PD supply on USB-C: 4k 24p 100Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = test not done as no problem with 30p in the same conditions. 4k 30p 140Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 3hr 50mn, no overheating, recording until SD card completely full! 4k 60p 200Mb/sec 10 bits 4:2:2 = 1hr 0mn 18s, (instead of 2hr 4mn with no power supply connected )overheating and turning off! So, we can see how much the h265 XAVC HS 4K codec makes the camera overheat at 60p in the exact same conditions as compare to using the h264 XAVC S 4k codec, 23mn32s vs 2hr 4mn. But in 24p, almost the same result than with the XAVC S 4K codec!!! Using an external power supply at 60p XAVC S 4k codec makes the recording time much shorter.

@LaLekASMR

9 ай бұрын

Could you maybe also test 4k 60fps with XAVC HS 4K at 45M 4:2:0 10bit? (thats what I am using on FX30 to save space). Would like to know if the a6700 could be used too without overheating.

@spiderman-mr7ex

9 ай бұрын

I don’t have easy access now to test that specific bitrate condition, but i may attempt to test it next week...

@sns135146

2 ай бұрын

Tq for your effort

That is so disappointing. Can the government just reveal the aliens already. We're gonna need alien tech if we want to improve the overheating performance.

@loudandclearmedia

10 ай бұрын

Or just stop shoehorning sensors and processors like this into tiny cameras. Certainly, this seems like an easier one to crack than the alien thing.

@tempeenak134

10 ай бұрын

If you want not overheating use 8bit recording, if u record 10bit u will overheat with tinny camera

a superb video that is clearly establishing the heating problem of the A6700 for video. So sad, I'm a fan of the A6000 series but have wanted to do documentary work, and really wanted to get the a6700.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I was hoping for a better performance.

Thanks for this useful review! So, to sum up, the things seem clear: 1. Have $2000-ish, want to do serious, long-form video with no overheating worries? --- Just get the FX30! 2. Have $2000-ish (a bit less), need to do quite short 4k60, 4k120, and are photo-centric? --- Get the a6700! 3. Have $2000-ish (a bit more), want to do short bursts of vlogging, want the best IBIS (active / enhanced), want the best sensor readout speed and image quality in low light? --- Get the ZV-E1! 4. Have $2000-ish (a bit more), need full-frame quality, but are ok with slower sensor readout, and with 4k60 cropped? --- Get the A7 IV! Am I missing something or am I wrong?

@finnharvor6773

10 ай бұрын

Good summary.

7:42 7:47 FX-30 for the win.

Great video, Josh - short and to the point! Cheers.

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

The camera getting hot on the outside is actually good (silver linings). It means that a camera cage would actually help with the heat dissipation and a fan could very well solve the overheating issue completely.

I'm a stills only guy, if I record a very rear video, I'll do it in 1080p, so overheating is not an issue for me. The a6700 is a fantastic hybrid camera, much more suited for photography. I think content creators/videographers should get the FX30 or it's full frame big brother, the FX3. In my opinion, the alpha series cameras which are without active cooling (i.e without a fan) are built for stills and some ocasional short video clips, and NOT intended for wedding videography or more than half an hour recordings in 4k60 with high bitrate. 4k120 on the a6700 is more or less a PR gymmic, not a real feature. I think that overheating is a big issue also on the ZV-E1, because of the lack of active cooling. Because I have only crop e mount lenses, I'll stick with sony's apsc lineup of cameras, and this camera is superb

I appreciate this video! Thx for all this info!

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

🎉 great video and most in line with most of the other reviews. I guess this makes sense considering the camera low price and great specs. Interesting that Undone edit his video due to the overwhelming fact that for everyone else the camera overheat.

Thanks for great information

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

Hey Josh, I'm Yuri. Your video was pretty much what I was searching for. I have a music related channel. I come from an a6400 and I just purchased myself an a6700 for multiple reasons like the upgrade in dynamic range, 4k slowmotion, usb-c instead of micro-usb, UHS-ll sd cards instead of UHS-l sd cards, the bigger grip, battery, extra buttons, better autofocus,... plus, my a6400 has started acting a bit weird because of water and sand getting on it during traveling. Now, my only concern with the a6700 is the overheating. I make a lot of reaction videos too, that pretty regularly exceed that 20min mark. In addition, every 3 weeks, I do a livestream on youtube for like 3 hours. Do you know what quality I should be able to put out with this camera? It probably also depends on the internet connection...? Anyways, recently I also started recording the livestream internally as well because that quality is just 10x better than from the actual livestream. That way, I can edit it afterwards. But I assume this is going to be difficult with the a6700? I remember the Canon EOS R5 also had overheating issues but that kinda got fixed through software updates I believe? Do you think this could also be improved on this model in the future? With my a6400, I think only once, in over 4 years that I used it, I got the overheating notification so overheating was never really a big issue. Hope you can give some advice on this. Thx man, loved this video, very helpful!

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

I don't think this is a situation where Sony can fix the overheating the firmware. The camera gets really hot and Sony isn't known for those kind of firmware updates either. If you are interested in a Sony APS-C camera for video, I would recommend the FX30. Very reliable.

@YBPlaysMusic

10 ай бұрын

@Josh_Sattin thx for your reply! hm too bad. I already got mine in the mail today so... It just seems so strange to me that the a6400, in a smaller body, from 4 years ago, does not overheat during a 3 hour livestream whilst internally recording in 4k 24fps and the a6700 can't do that... In that sense, it seems like a downgrade... I guess I'll see what happens

@compucorder64

10 ай бұрын

​@@YBPlaysMusic an FX-30 might have been a better choice, but, there's a few things you can do that can probably make it work fine for you when recording long 4k videos. If you leave the LCD screen out to the side, open out all the camera doors (SDcard, HDMI, etc ...), run from external power not battery, Also, there's even people making 3D printed accessories than will allow you to mount and run a fan on it (Fuji actually sell an accessory that does something similar). But if you don't plan to use it for photography, and video it's primary, you could consider returning it, if possible, and getting an FX-30. It's the better video tool.

como você colocou a opção de tolerância a temperatura? Ou não mexeu nela?

Would you recommend the A7SIII or the FX3? I know they were not very different when released, but now firmware has separated the two.

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

If you don't need an EVF then I prefer the FX3.

So I have ran multiple overheating tests since I got my 6700. In temps 75 and below i have had no overheating in 4k24 and 4k60. 4k120 I got 20ish minutes. Outdoors here in Georgia(southeast USA) 90°f 70% humidity 4k24 got 37 minutes before overheating. 4k60 I got 28 minutes constant record. Have not tried 4k120 outdoors yet. I have preordered the Ulanzi cooling fan and going to test the cooling effect once it arrives.

@rsmith02

10 ай бұрын

Is there any difference between 8-bit and 10-bit? Wondering if it would give you extra time to shoot say 8-bit Cine 2 with XAVC S.

@aaronballard9119

10 ай бұрын

@rsmith02 I havent tested the 8bit. All of my tests were done at the highest settings possible. I would assume it would add to the record time as the unit isnt working quite as hard under those settings. As to how much of a difference im not sure. I might give that a test along with 1080 in the upcoming couple of weeks.

Thank you for making this video. I was leaning towards the 6700 as a hybrid camera for traveling and filmmaking but as I’m more video focused I‘ll probably go FX30. It looks more badass too 😄

@Josh_Sattin

4 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Yeah I would definitely go for the FX30 over the a6700 for video.

ive done tests on my channel also in the uk. so very different in real world temp and humidity but also if it does overheat ie 4k120 mine did 15 mins and just popped out the battery put a new one in and it was fine straight on and recording again.

Thanks for your review. Will the camera overheat even with still photography (for instance with continous shooting mode) ?

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

You're welcome. I don't do much photography so I don't test that out for this channel. I would guess it wouldn't overheat in just photo mode, but I haven't personally tested it.

@Princeton_James

3 ай бұрын

No

I had heard some people got good runtimes using XAVC S, I was also curious about 4:2:0 10 bit runtimes as I consider this a good alternative.

Tnx for video. My experience is the next. KZread streaming 4.2.2 140M 10Bit 2160p 30 FPS HDMI Camlink 4K SLog3 with lut in OBS - 1h 08min. Monitor is always ON. Temperature in the room is approximately 20C. Another test The only difference is 25 FPS. The camera worked for 1 hour 40 minutes. Thermometer appeared. But I turned off the stream. Tired of it 😅 I think camera fan from AliExp can solve this issue.

Thanks

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

I would imagine that 1080p should be fine, but it would be nice to run the test. My plan is to buy this camera.

What about sn external camera fan, I understand they close to double the usage time?

Great video Josh! I've been using my A6400 as livestreaming and conferencing camera with HDMI out to Elgato CamLink4K into RødeCaster ProII, with dummy battery - it ran all days, no problem, I used 4K 25p. I'm definitely getting the A6700 for the livestream that's around 1,5 hours long, I'll be using is for the main headshot, _but_, as you pointed out, the A6700 is a photo centric camera which is.. great in my case. I'm also drooling for that 120p and AF AI and to have it as an all-in-one camera for my trips. It's great to be aware of the overheating risks and to know how to avoid it the best way. Cheers!

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! At this point I would try to steer you towards the FX30 over the A6700 for video.

@HomesickMac

9 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin I do realise the advantages of the FX-30 but I'm now hooked on the Auto Framing that's an amazing feature when teaching and doing workshops like I do, and then the option of having the A6700 as a hybrid axe when travelling, also a big thing. Tomorrow might be a .. big day with the release of a new Sony camera on Aug.29th, the A7C mark2.. weäll see what that brings 🙂

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

@@HomesickMac Yeah the auto framing is cool. I think it will be better in future iterations. I wasn't personally happy with how it frames a person in the first round of it. It puts the person's head in the center. But that might be me being picky and wanting full control. I would take unlimited record time over auto framing. A7CII will most likely just be a A74 in a smaller body with the newest Sony features.

@cry00

6 ай бұрын

a6400 4.2.0 8Bit My ZV E10 also 4.2.0 100M 8Bit and NO problem with streaming 2160p 30FPS HDMI Camlink 4K without overheating. I have a6700 and if streaming with 4.2.2 140M 10Bit 2160p 30FPS my experience - 1h 08min. If 25FPS - 1h 40min. But if use 4.2.0 8Bit I think will be OK with a6700.

Yes, camera overheat like crazy in hot sunny day, but still did tons of good footage and pictures, because it is so fast & accurate, if it has better cooling system and better battery efficiency it would be perfect, but then probably would have to spent 2400$ instead of 1400$. For me as a hobby camera, it is great and real improvement over my old a6600 in almost every use case scenerio, except hot days which are very rare in my country.

If video is your jam, the FX30 is fantastic! I have been pleasantly surprised by how well the colors match with the FX3. I knew this A6700 was going to be hot potato.

@POVwithRC

10 ай бұрын

+1 Endorsement for FX30. The 6700 is a photo camera that can sorta do video. The FX30 is video first. The right tool for the job.

@nitailevi8001

10 ай бұрын

Do I remember wrong that the FX30 is from before the latest AF improvements? I mean the A7RV AF which the A6700 also has.

@RandumbTech

10 ай бұрын

@@nitailevi8001 Not sure either. But I can tell you that the AF on the FX30 is unbelievably good. I had the A7RV with the newest AF features and I actually found it cumbersome because there were too many options.

@reynoldsetiadi7941

7 ай бұрын

+1 for FX30 too. 😂

80 degrees, with humidity, in the sun...yeah that can be pretty rough on any camera shooting in 4k. Especially with no internal fan. I'll have to test the HDMI port issue on mine. I haven't recorded for that long before, but I do see others on reddit have similar issues. For livestreaming it's probably better to use the USB-C anyway if you can. The camera is still a hybrid. I mean...it's not really supposed to do everything the best. There will be drawbacks. Most people doing pro work probably won't pick this up since there's only one memory card slot to begin with.

when I first heard about the a6700 I was a bit bummed that I own the (little) bigger FX30 - but now I am actually very happy. I mostly shoot video outside so I the a6700 would have really not been a good fit for me.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I would definitely recommend the FX30 for shooting video.

@hdrsiy2132

9 ай бұрын

Is FX30 still good for photo?

Hi! How is overheating without HDMI but with dummy battery? Like concert recording scenario. Results are as expected yet still disappointing. I recently managed to record over 2h of 4k25p with a cage and a dummy battery on a firmware-modified Sony a6300 on a worm summer evening in a church (around 75F).

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

It will largely depend on the ambient temperature and if you are in the sun or not. Without HDMI it will run similar to battery only. You might get a little bit longer of a run time because of the dummy battery, but not sure.

This makes me feel better since I got the Fuji X-S20 and can add a fan….

@loco46m

10 ай бұрын

I just got it too, and it is INCREDIBLE value for money! For short for video, you're okay with regards to heating.

@AmaraARW

10 ай бұрын

You can buy a fan for this camera from Ulanzi for $20

@bobhope1084

8 ай бұрын

Throw the whole camera away

I’m looking at either getting this cam or Sony a7c soon, mainly gonna do video work. Any suggestions?

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

If you are going to do mainly video work I would suggest FX30, A7S3 or FX3.

would have been better to test 4k60 outdoor just to get a rough diff for info

they defiantly need something like 4k line skipped mode or 4k crop 60 and 24. in case it overheats you can switch setting and get a little worse quality but you can continue shooting. Ulanzi Fan looks like solution but not the most convenient one. i bet some people gonna disassemble it and install fan inside the body somehow. like bmpcc 4k with a screen that you cant tilt and there is a product that you can make bmpcc 4k screen external. but if Sony can do it with a frimware update, that would be great

what codec and bitrate for 4K24p?

Is this all at 10-bit or 8-bit with the HEVC. Does it make any difference?

@tempeenak134

10 ай бұрын

If u record in 8bit never overheat

I wanna know, if we're shooting a video podcast and the camera overheats and dies, do we lose the footage ? Thank you ✨

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

From my experience it usually does save what was already recorded, but I can't guarantee that. Also, I'd rather have a camera that you don't have to worry about overheating if you are recording long sessions like a video podcast.

@jarryandria

10 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin I see. Okay well I'll use a more reliable camera for more important work then. Appreciate your answer thank you ✨

You have to mention the codec. It makes a huge difference if you use 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 for example.

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

XAVC HS 4K 10 bit 422 100 Mbps

@JamieSandel

9 ай бұрын

A follow-up video testing the 50M and 30M options of 4:2:2 and the 4:2:0 options would be really interesting. Same for XAVC S vs HS.

The overheating is really a bummer. 99% of the video I shoot is outdoors. For sports highlights it seems that this would just not be a viable option. The FX30 would work, but I am a hybrid shooter, so I guess back to the drawing board it is.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

Yes with the electronic shutter.

Does the problem still persist? Is there anyone who can extend this time with software or a different method?

id love it if you could test webcam mode, without internal recording thanks!

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

My buddy Geoff made a video about it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nqed16uKeq3HeJs.html

it overheat more then zv e10? With power delivery powerbank it overheat more?

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I have not tested the overheating on the ZV-E10.

So I tested mine via the USB Livestreaming. I did 4k30p, dummy battery, tripod, screen flipped out, and i'm on 1.01. My room is like 72-75 degrees. Overheated after about 20 minutes. I've seen others say there's doesn't overheat when using USB. So maybe I just have a bad camera.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience. I wish this camera had better thermal management.

Mine has overheated using both the HDMI and the USB-C for livestreaming. After about 1hr w/monitor hooked up via HDMI. It actually overheated faster using the USB-C...about 30 minutes. Gotta send it back. This is pretty disappointing because I never had issues with the a6600.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing your experience.

How this guy only can get 1500views until now?🎉

I think in this price bracket, if you want a camera to do photos and video, you'd be better off choosing the Panasonic S5 mark II. Mine has been solid as a rock, even in quite extreme summer outdoor heat here in Valencia, Spain. Unless you already invested in Sony lens. Otherwise, like you said, Sony wants you to buy both, the FX30 for video, and the a6700 for photos. The A7IV should be the do it both hybrid, but for many it isn't, because it also overheats. I think it's pretty shoddy that Sony have yet again released a broken by design camera, because this overheating has to be by design at this point. They know the overheating makes it largely unusable for serious video work, and do it anyway, to sell their cameras. Then it's left up to honest reviewers to actually test the IRL overheating, but some customers will still get caught out. Because it's not like they print reasonable real-world heat specs (4k, 30 or 60fps in temps of 30c+, in direct sunlight). What Fujifilm do with the optional fan accessory is a bit more honest.

@telford2155

10 ай бұрын

AF video tracking Panasonic is still subpar to Sony. Also much bigger system with far less lens options.

@lifeshare7026

10 ай бұрын

@@telford2155 which type of lenses you normally use on your work?

@compucorder64

10 ай бұрын

@@telford2155 It is. The FX30 is still a great choice for video, if wanting to go with those lens options. Though, in favour of Panasonic, all other IBIS are subpar compared to Panasonic. And the 6k video gives some nice options and future proofing. So it very much depends on what you are shooting. If setting up as a run and gun cinema rig, S5 II is a great choice too. Especially if needing multiple cameras.

@mattz9569

5 ай бұрын

Fuji added an optional fan... but I've used xh2 at 8k highest bit rate for commercials and company training videos, long run times, and I've never had an overheating issue, with no fan. I've used an a7iv recently for work.. not a lot of tests, but it didn't overheat on me. Panasonic has always been great for video. They had 4k working with unlimited recording time long before other companies implemented it... so it's there thing lol. I think the thing here is, the a6700 is a $1,300 sony camera. So maybe a price of $900 for the same specs from another manufacturer. So people shouldn't expect it to be capable of competing against $2,000 bodies.

Josh can the Sony A74 run for longer time limit when outside than the Sony A6700

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Yes but the A7IV can still overheat.

@ruff1draft

10 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin Ok thanks for letting me know. I intend to purchase the Sony A74 alongside the Panasonic S5 Mark ii x and Canon R6 Mark 2 and the future Nikon Z5 Mark 2. I like mid range camera's as they do a bit of everything. Also I like to see who has the best 8 bir aswell as 10 bit and 12 bit internally

what happens if you use an external recorder like the ninja v?

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

I didn't test it that way but since you are not recording internally I would guess it would be fine.

This is really disappointing but to be expected? I guess? I mean it’s like they just want you to spend more money on the better performing cameras however, I am still positive. This Camera has a place for someone, and I think that’s what’s really important, would I buy it? Probably not. But you know there’s so many people out there that don’t need anything more than this. Good luck everyone 😅

I was playing with the menus in winter when I first got the camera and it overheated on its o, no recording.

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Do you have the Auto Power Off Temp set to high?

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… it should be a aspect of the climate change - overheating in winter season! 😄

I'll probably just buy the Ulanzi fan for $20 for when I need to shoot longer clips

I think having fans in all alpha cameras should be mandatory. They're pretty low key and tiny but do wonders, and it shouldn't be too expensive to have.

@Josh_Sattin

Ай бұрын

That would be great!

This like a notebook with a rtx3080ti inside. A stupid design about 3-4 years ago when some manufacturers trying to add a monster inside a body like Notebook/thin laptop/smartphone etc.

Is a6600 slightly better?

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

I haven't used an a6600 in a long time, but I don't remember any overheating issues. I use a ZV-E10 often in my studio without any issues. It has the same sensor as the a6600.

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… you can’t compare it, no 10 bit 4:2:2 for the a6600, uses old video codec’s etc. The a6700 produces much better image quality, especially if you want to colorgrade the footage. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@weddingvideography7747

10 ай бұрын

@@TW-iu9zy I see, but a6600 very useful as a B or C Cam in Wedding. this Camera could be useless!

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

@@weddingvideography7747… hm, it is a good B cam for weddings, of cause. so the a6700 is also. if you use it indoor for wedding in 24p/30p is should be no problem. on a warm day for outdoor shooting you could switch the old codecs and 8 bit 4:2:0 - like you do with the a6600.

@rsmith02

10 ай бұрын

I have yet to overheat my a6600 (AVC, Cine 2).

Does the canon R7 have a fan?

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

It does not have a fan. And it does overheat.

@BoReynolds

10 ай бұрын

Thank you buddy.@@Josh_Sattin

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

It last way longer than A6700 before overheat (1hr+)

No perfect camera. Buy the one that suits your shooting style.

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… right! 👍🏻 The a6700 is an awesome solution for content creator. it’s not a professional video solution.

And this why R7 is the king - same price, never overheated on me, can always trust that bad boy to do the job even outside on hot summer day

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

R7 is really good with long recording

@spyder000069

10 ай бұрын

My R7 will do just over 35 min at 4k60 and no overheating on the lower modes. Love the camera for my bird photography. Picked up a R6mk2 and its good in low light but overheats faster and the drop in megapixel is noticeable enough when I need to crop. Its a nice camera but if I am only picking one its going to be the R7.

@indago1

10 ай бұрын

@@spyder000069 I thought R6 mark 2 doesnt overheat. That's a bit surprising to me.

@RiposteThis

9 ай бұрын

@@indago1 If the camera doesn't have an internal fan, it will over heat eventually, they all do.

@blackbugmedia

8 ай бұрын

@@indago1R6MkII user here. It doesn’t overheat in 4k24. It does in 4K60.

1080p is such a great format, easy on the editing and storage requirements with very good quality results

I’m not a pro or record long hrs so this camera is perfect 😅

@BuiltInception

10 ай бұрын

Trust that you don’t need to record long hours, others have gotten overheating within 10 mins at 4k30 which is poor.

That is the worst compared to Canon R7. But it is not getting attention due to the lack of good lenses.

So glad I didn't preorder this camera. The Sony shills with early review copies glossed over the overheating issues. Thankt for the honest review.

What about at 30FPS?

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Probably similar to 24fps.

@NMMatt

10 ай бұрын

Thank you...@@Josh_Sattin

For most and average people, I do not hink we would film 40K 24p (or even more) over 10mins straight outdoor. People who know what they are doing would just do b roll shots for 3-10 secs and move on. Dont get me wrong .... the tests are valid and all but it is under extreme scenario and most people would not use it that way.

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

wedding video shooter have to shoot under this sun all the time for ceremony, not extreme condition

@compucorder64

10 ай бұрын

​@@ntsan definitely, wedding. And also travel, sport, wildlife / nature, music events, even fashion shoots. Never mind the fact that over 80F isn't even seasonal, it's the norm in many tropical areas. Or even places where people choose to do shoot films because of the sunny climate. Even many typical not ideally air-conditioned office / studio / industrial environments will be get up 80F in Summer. And in many indoor filming environments, you might not want to run fans or A/C during recording because sensitive mics will pick up the noise. I think Sony are foisting these overheating cameras on people by only testing them at 25C. Imagine if computers, phones, tablets, networking devices, video displays, overheated after 30 minutes everytime it was over 80F ;)

@FilmScape4K

10 ай бұрын

This camera is advertised to be used for live streaming. Guess what, real world meetings are normally an hour or longer and back to back

@rsmith02

10 ай бұрын

Interviews I do are usually an hour (though indoors is normal). It has to be able to do well over that.

@rsat9526

10 ай бұрын

I don’t consider any of these use cases to be normal or average in my opinion. These sound quite specific work to me. Dont get me wrong…I do own a6700 and I love it but I do certainly understand its limitation. However I am no sony fanboy and I know what it cant do. As an “average” users (i.e. travel photography, vlog and broll) I never have any overheating issue for the past 2 weeks and I live in South East Asia where temperature is damn hot during this time of the year.

Or just stick right with the a6600

soo strange . mine old A6500 can record 4k24 with 90F and 80% of humidity outside for almost 30 mins....

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… yes, but not in 10 bit 4:2:2 - to compare the shooting time of the a6700 and a6500 you have to film with the same settings in 8 bit 4:2:0. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@mex5341

10 ай бұрын

@@TW-iu9zy sounds right , but there is a new processor in a new camera , and should be new tech process and thermal caracteristics , but no...

@rsmith02

10 ай бұрын

@@TW-iu9zy Do you know if anyone has done such a test?

@RiposteThis

9 ай бұрын

@@mex5341 Thermals are just physics, there is no new secret sauce when it comes to thermals. They have been the same for years.

oof. Seems like a lot to fix with FW update

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… the best fix for videography is to buy an FX30. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Test it also with the “AI” auto focus is in action.. this camera is overheating because of the AI auto focus. Dont test on non moving subject.

I did live stream to twitch 4K 60 overheated with a dummy battery after 30 min and it was on hdmi indoor

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

Bummer. Thanks for sharing that. Were you recording internally at the same time?

@Ivantang69

10 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin I was not recording internally

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

@@Ivantang69 Oh man. That is not good. Thanks again for the info.

that camera a6700 is trash for video.. the a6400 i have used it for 8 hours straight and no overheating.

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… so maybe you should use the new a6700 like your old „high performance“ 6400? 🤔 8 bit 4:2:0, no 120p or 60p, old codecs, no s cinetone, no AI based AF, smaller battery and with tilting the screen only - and it will run also 8 hours straight without any sign of overheating!!! But you habe to swap the battery 6 times … 🤣🤣🤣 …

@kirtanforthesoul

10 ай бұрын

@TW-iu9zy actually I have a battery pack connected. For my needs a6400 .

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

@@kirtanforthesoul… that’s fine and the a6400 is a very good camera for many cases. But don’t say the a6700 is trash gor video, because that’s not true - and you have also no experience using the a6700. 😉

@rsmith02

10 ай бұрын

@@TW-iu9zy a6600 has the larger battery and no overheating. Yes you're limited to 8-bit so Cine 2 instead of Slog (which is still quite good looking with decent dynamic range).

@RiposteThis

9 ай бұрын

@@rsmith02 You can't compare a camera that does 8 bit 420 and a camera that does 10 bit 422, it's completely different video files, and the 10bit is a larger file that requires the camera to work harder.

Thanks for some real testing. I think most people over estimate how long they need to shoot video. No one wants to see 2 hours of continuous video, let alone 15 minutes.

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

No one want to see full 2 hours video but u need to capture the best sound bite of the 2 hr presentation to a 2 min video, what will you do?

@fwiler

10 ай бұрын

@@ntsan Find something better to do than sit around for 2 hours for something that may or may not happen. For a sound bite that nobody cares about. Normal people don't waste their lives doing that, nor do they record for 2 hrs straight.

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

@@fwiler I am talking if you want to use it for video jobs, I dont care about normal people. And there is thing called editing, I guess most people like you think shoot long videos = long final videos.

@fwiler

10 ай бұрын

@@ntsan This is a hybrid camera for normal people. Sony makes video centric cameras. Video jobs doesn't mean you shoot for 2+ hrs continuously without any break. If it does, then someone didn't plan very well and a hybrid camera is not something you would be looking at unless you add external battery and recording in which case there is no issue for overheating. And no, people like me don't think there is no editing, people like me don't waste time shooting 2+hrs straight.

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

​@@fwiler I guess those 2hr concert video is totally wast of your time too. Why spend hours on those concert, so dumb, and the people filming them is even dumber. I gues for fanboys as long the brand is right it's the other people who are wrong and dumb, the brand is always right. There is just no excuess for Sony to overlooked thermal, they have to make it right in the first place, why do we have to be ok for them to make compromise consider it's our money to buy. Its people like you that make those big manufacturers think they can get away. Same for those governement and agency because of people like you that make excuess for them instead of saying No this aint right!

thanks for the video man!!, can you do a video talking about the noise in 60 and 129p PLEASE!! thanks again man!!

@Josh_Sattin

10 ай бұрын

You're welcome. I covered that in my FX30 review. It has the same sensor so it should have similar noise performance: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYt51Kh_kbCcqcY.html

@elyoo13

10 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin thanks!!

The Panasonic S5II is better than the FX30 and cheaper. It has a fan, full frame and better video stabilisation.

Get an R7 instead😅

@Aalochak

10 ай бұрын

No good professional lens options like sony 11mm 1.8, sigma trio, sigma 18-50 f2.8 etc

@ntsan

10 ай бұрын

U can still use ef lens like Sigma 18-35 1.8 with adapter

I was already to buy this camera😢😢😢😢😢

@Josh_Sattin

6 ай бұрын

Well better to know it's limitations before you purchased it. Thanks for watching!

@imboredDB

6 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin I might still get it! Thx

Can’t wait for all the bandwagon followers to get the A7Cii in a month and spam overheat for that also in a minute flat as I’m sure it will be much worse than this even is (like zv-e1).

Angry photographer was right, Sony is tv company and their cameras are coming out like cakes, it's already confusing, same thing repacked and so many flaws

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

… 😂😂😂 … the so called „angry photographer“ learned his lesson very well, while he met Jason Lanier on s shooting day years ago. nowadays you will find absolutely no(!) videos on his conspiracy-channel, that have anything to do with photography. 😂😂😂

@strippedlist

10 ай бұрын

jason alnier is a blah blah photographer, his images are meaningless

@TW-iu9zy

10 ай бұрын

@@strippedlist … oh yes, like the huge art work, produces by Ken Wheeler with Fuji cameras? 🤣 and yes, you are right: Jason is at least a photographer.

@RiposteThis

9 ай бұрын

The angry photographer is out there talking about getting free energy from potatoes and shit, don't listen to anything he says.

Testing in air conditioning is not so helpful. So pretty useless for video outdoors. Thanks for the helpful review.

@Josh_Sattin

9 ай бұрын

I did test it outdoors and included that in this video.

@theusbadenhorst1848

9 ай бұрын

@@Josh_Sattin I appreciate it. Thank you. Folloeing.

Glad I didn’t purchase. 😂

i mean, is no so professional to use a camera in a n interview and need to cut cause overheating issues ha

@alonsogarrote8898

4 ай бұрын

If one were going to use this camera in an interview professionally I would use an external fan attached for sure...

Just get the Fuji XS20

@just_drums_please

2 ай бұрын

It also overheats.

No reviewer has even mentioned how long it performs in 1080p who cares about 4k I’m not watching my videos on a 70 inch 4k tv anyways

- used stupid Fahrenheit instead of Celsius world standard - testet choppy 24fps instead of 30fps Sadly a useless video!!

All future cameras from any manufacturer should have a internal fan period. You spent all your hard earn money to buy a unreliable camera. Why? I don't care how good the camera/specs if you can't use it when need it. Company needs to produce a good camera with fan built into it damn it.

@blackbugmedia

10 ай бұрын

Clearly this camera is intended for people who shoot mostly photo and 1080p video, and occasional 4k video. If you want 4K all day, FX30 is there, as Josh said. All you have to do is spend more money.

@POVwithRC

10 ай бұрын

No, I don't think that manufacturers should be compelled to do so. If you spent your hard earned money on a camera that isn't meant for what you primarily do with a camera, that's on you and your lack of research. Cameras with fans that are mostly video-oriented already exist. Buy one. Period.

@blackbugmedia

10 ай бұрын

@@POVwithRC 100% agree.

@BrucePhung

10 ай бұрын

Camera advertised as a 4k hybrid camera. Whats your saying buying 4k camera and 1080P? Thanks but no thanks. It's your money buy what you want. I just pointing my view. You don't like it, to bad.

@blackbugmedia

10 ай бұрын

@@BrucePhung Yes, it is advertised as 4K, and it does in fact shoot in 4K. However, they did not say anything about overheating. Just like when a car is advertised as 25 miles per gallon, and you drive it uphill, you realize you get more like 15 miles per gallon. But the car manufacturers don't tell you that, do they?