Thank you so much! I don't know why I was fixated on putting the sonoff mini behind the switch. Even if you have a neutral there it's not very easy to tuck it in... This seems so much easier....

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

2-way switching is also simple with the ceiling rose wiring and sonoff mini.It's only really suitable for people lucky enough to live in the UK. 😉

You are great you are the only who explains the role of s1ands2 connections to the switch Keep up

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 жыл бұрын

No problem. If there's anything you'd like me to clarify, I'm here to help😉👍

10/10 for cutting the hey google part out

Thanks for this clear video. I thought there is some problem with the smart switch which I have bought but thanks to you I have just learned that there is no Neutral which is required for smart switch.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

8 ай бұрын

Yes if you if you live in the UK, it's possible to put it up by the light fixture. Especially if there is no neutral behind the light switch. In Europe the wiring is done differently so it could be more difficult.

Excellent illustration and very clear.. :)

Thanks to you I was able to wire mine up

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

No problem happy to help 😉👍

Good video thanks. This is what I was intending to do when I bought a few Minis but good to have it confirmed and also see that the lag on the lightswitch use isn't too bad. I've seen some take a good second or so before activating the light! Just one point, the Sonoff Mini is ZigBee rather than WiFi (or at least mine are) so they pass on the command through the chain. I've some ZigBee devices in metal light ceiling plates and they work fine because they only have to see the next device in the chain and not go all the way back to the hub in one step. Very clear video and explanation too.

Love this video, so well explained and so helpful you muted Hey Google command! Thank you!

Thank you

@MyProjectBoxChannel

9 күн бұрын

You're welcome

Amazing solution, where do you get those enclosures replacing the ceiling rose and also these electronic components?

Thanks for muting the wake word!

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I don't always remember to take it out 🙄

I’ve been trying to wire up a ZBMini L (no neutral reqd) into a 2-way switch, but can’t get it working. Diagrams suggested one switchable live into S2 would work, but that only did one end - when I switched off the other switch the relay lost power. Any experience / hints with this setup ?

Very informative, I'm going to order mine now! :) One question though, how would you go about doing this for a two way switch ?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends on how the two-way lighting is wired. But it should work exactly the same, if the two switch lines end up back at the ceiling rose. This would be the most common way to wire it. There will definitely be situations where it could be tricky.

@PaCKkMaAn

3 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Perfect, I'm going to give this a try. However, can you provide a link or a search term for the larger ceiling rose cap you showed? I can't seem to find anything online for it :(

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaCKkMaAn mine came with a pendant light I bought, I needed a E27 socket for Edison screw, for one of those fancy light bulbs. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silicone-E27-Pendant-Ceiling-Lamp-Chandeliers-Light-Holder-Hanging-Fixture-Color-/303771645669?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286 Here's another one I found that might work www.spares2you.co.uk/white-plastic-ceiling-rose-with-grub-screw-023108-plu94768/

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@PaCKkMaAn www.lampspares.co.uk/black-plastic-ceiling-rose-with-grub-screw/

Fantastic video. I have the current lighting set up in my bathroom. However, it is a single switch which controls both the fan and the light. I want a second switch to control the fan and use a smart light switch to control the light For the fan which I will connect through an isolator switch and then to a Sonoff mini R2. Do connect the Lin from the Loop and Nin from the Neutral? For the Lout this will go to the extractor fan. I know u omitted the 2nd Nin but i still need it to go into the extractor fan right? For the switch? I will be using a wireless smart switch remote to control the Sonoff mini R2 and place it above the light switch outside of the bathroom. I can then do my humidity sensor to fan on automation an motion sensor to switch light on automation. Please educate me if i have not made sense

Where did you get the white junction box that the mini would fit in. I'm UK based and would love something similar but all the ones I've found either have terminals inside or are £10+

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

The one I used is called a CHOCBOX from Screwfix or Toolstation. You have to cut off all the protruding bits of plastic sticking up with a stanley knife, in order to make it fit. It's all a bit cramped in there though. www.screwfix.com/p/chocbox-connector-box/54936 Or alternatively use a large ceiling rose cover. www.spares2you.co.uk/white-plastic-ceiling-rose-with-grub-screw-023108-plu94768/

Can you use this device to control a set of 4 spot lights in a ceiling that are linked in a ring or do I need to purchase 4 of these for the individual lights?

In my ceiling I found one 4 wire connection, 2 for in and 2 going to light bulbs, could you help on that

Brilliant, thank you so much. What is the name or code for the sonoff gadget please

@muttlyirl

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a Sonoff Mini

Great video - very clearly explained. But what do UK Wiring Regulations say about having a permanently connected (and powered on) Sonoff in the ceiling? The lighting ring is protected at the consumer unit with a 6A RCBO - is that enough to satisfy the inspectors? I have done a similar thing with my porch light and a Sonoff Basic (with Tasmota firmware) in the ceiling. My wall switch is connected to GND and GPIO14 to toggle the current state.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

I guess if the Sonoff is protected by a suitable enclosure, and no bare conductors on show. Then it should be OK above the ceiling. You would think the regs would be updated enough for smart lighting, and permanenty powered electronics, above the ceiling. It is 2023 after all🤔🤣. In Europe the fuse board/consumer unit, can have all sorts of DIN-rail mounted electronics inside. Not like in the UK were it's just circuit breakers. Sorry for my rant, it just seems like the UK is a bit behind Europe sometimes, when it comes to "modern" electrical installations.

Love your videos and this is very interesting but my house is wired to loop at the switch, any chance you can make a video fitting a sonoff with that?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Well that makes it possible to put your Sonoff MINI behind the light switch. You should have all the connections behind the switch to wire up the sonoff mini. If there is not enough room, you can try a Shelly1, as it is much smaller.

Have you tried replacing the firmware, ESPhome or the like. I’ve got some original Sonoff Basics and Shelly 1’s but the newer router keeps dropping them out, so wanting to try a ESP32 module or even Zigbee. Just wondering your opinions.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Zigbee is is supposed to have a very robust signal, as it uses different protocols and different frequencies as normal WiFi. You do need to use it in conjunction with a zigbee hub though, and this has always somewhat put me off. Zigbee might resolve your Wi-Fi dropout issues. Just a fun side fact, the ingenuity helicopter on Mars, uses the zigbee protocol 😉👍

@Ilikeridin

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel that fact alone has made me want to try zigbee! Thank you for the reply

Ive been looking for this information for so long. Wiring is not an interest of mine so having this gets me alongso much further with my design work. I ended up bjying several no neutral switches which are not the best andcause flickering. Before you say it yes they were promoted as non flickering yet still flicker regardless. Yes they were expensive in comparison to this option but now that i have this info i can easily move my current system while also vsiually appearing "like normal". With my purchased smartswitches last year, they became a nuisance as my airbnb guests have a meltdownthe second they see they are different visually and that ive mentioned that they are "smart" switches. I know its silly but its become so painful to manage with guests. Its mad to see so many people freak out with the word "smart". Their lack of knowledge on whatthese units are and how they work to make life easier, quickly complicates the process and cuts out any positive time savings. Instead it complicates, confuses and annoys. This video helps as i cN change my system at home, introduce savings while also keeping guests at bay and preventing silly ignorant meltdowns.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

I understand your pain. I also host a airbnb, and its better to keep things simple for the guests. They don't like things that they don't understand. I have designed my own no-natural circuits for when there is simply no other option, like with some of the wiring in Europe. kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXaGl7FsaZTTj8Y.html

Excellent demo. I have a doubt. Kindly clarify if possible. Do I need to connect both the neutral post on the sonoff mini or just one neutral post as you have shown? The reason I'm asking is that I have a neutral behind the switch box that is the common neutral running on to the next connection and the light fixture at the ceiling has its neutral connected to the common neutral in the ceiling which then connects to the main neutral at the main junction box. There is no neutral wire coming directly from the light at the ceiling to the switch box. Please help. Can I leave the second neutral on the sonoff mini blank (without any connection)?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 ай бұрын

Yes you can leave the second neutral blank👍😉. Both neutral terminals are just joint together as one inside the Sonoff. You can use the extra neutral terminal as a neutral junction point if you like. It's neutral in and neutral out, but in reality they are both identical(joint together inside). Also it could be possible for you, to put the sonoff behind the light switch, if you have a neutral connection behind your light switch 🤔

@shanxac

3 ай бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Thank You very much for your speedy response and also for clearing up my doubts. You have been very kind and helpful. Please keep up with your great work. I wish You all the very best in your work. Thank You again.

Just watched this video. Its really excellent. Very well explained indeed. I was about to give it a go when I realised that my light switch is a 2-gang switch. The live is shared between the 2 switches. If the live from the ceiling rose, to the switch, is replaced with a connection to S1 on the MINI then its going to cuase a problem for the light that is not controlled via the MINI. Is it possible to solve this problem.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

You could use a Shelly1. It only needs the switched Live as a trigger input. You could also use my opto circuit hack for the miniR2, but that might be over complicating things. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmuFmqOMYpaeoLw.html or kzread.info/dash/bejne/oXaGl7FsaZTTj8Y.html

good video, if I wired a pir sensor through s1/2 would it override if set to permanently on through the app?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

If your PIR relay has a switched live mains voltage output, you cannot connect it to S1 and S2! These are "no volt" connections (wire to a dead switch only). You can parallel your PIR mains voltage output with the output of the sonoff. Then when the sonoff turns ON, it can bridge out and override the PIR. It all depends on the type of PIR you are using. whether it's a direct mains voltage or a 12 volt low voltage type. I hope this helps.

@lewisstylianou292

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel hi yes thats helpful, its a mains powered LAP PIR. If i bridge the PIR it means it is essentially 'ON' will leaving it on for hours at a time cause any risk to the sensor...overheating etc. if it is only designed for max 4mins?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@lewisstylianou292 I assume the 4 minutes is just the maximum time delay that the PIR stays ON to light the bulb? If you bridge the output of the Sonoff to the output of the PIR, the sonoff is simply overriding the PIR, and the PIR does nothing. And as long as the sonoff is activated the light will stay on, until you turn the sonoff off then the PIR takes over.

Great video and exactly what I was trying to do. Unfortunately when I replicate the same, S1 and S2 on the Mini R2 doesn't switch the light on and off. I have even done this on a test bed to eliminate the complication in the ceiling rose and the result is the same. The app works fine, its just the manual on off from the switch that doesn't work. Any advise will be appreciated

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

So on your "test bed" you have the switch connected to S1 and S2. It's very strange that it doesn't work. I really don't know what else to say 🤔. Try different switch perhaps? You can also(very carefully) intermittently bridge out S1 and S2 with a wire link, to mimic the action of a switch.

@MrAzuka04

Жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Thanks for your reply. I have tried linking S1 and S2 with a wire but this did nothing. At first I thought it was down to Tasmota. I purchased another R2 and used eWelink and its the same result.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@MrAzuka04 I really don't know why it wouldn't work. That's essentially the default way you wired it up. Without actually seeing what you've done I can't tell you if you made any mistakes. Maybe on my FB you can send me some photos of what you've done.

Would you care to do the same but with a shelly dimmer 2? I'm almost convinced it's similar but would be good to see it done. Many thanks!

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I have a video coming out soon about the Shelly1, but it's not for the UK lighting circuits.

Cool video … where did you get that extended rose cover from though?

@philharris9631

2 жыл бұрын

Just in case anyone has a 3D printer - I haven’t tried it yet but could be useful, there’s an extended ceiling rose that seems to have the screw thread to attach to an actual MK backplate on thingiverse, if the link below doesn’t work it’s item number 4124473… www.thingiverse.com/thing:4124473

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

They are more common in Europe and on the continent. I've seen them in IKEA and online before. It normally comes as a complete pendant with screw e27 base.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@philharris9631 nice one

Fantastic - a neat and sensible solution I have been looking for for my cinema room. Is there an option to be able to dim the lights as well with this or is it a simple on off function? It would be great to have an option to be able to say 'hey google, dim pelmet lights to 50%' for example. My room will have 6 light circuits. Can I 'label' each one as necessary so I could say 'dim inner LEDs to 30%' and 'dim outer LEDs to 50%' etc?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it's on/off only, it doesn't have any dimming function.

@ohhyesitsonlyme

5 ай бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel could it be linked with Sonoff’s dimmer D1???

Can you control the device via 4G ? Because I've read in some reviews that it only work if you are connected to the same wifi as the device

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

You should be able to control it via cloud control. Google home/ Amazon Alexa, from your phone over 4g. But the device it's self needs to connect to a WiFi network.

Could I wire this into the back of a switch spur??just leave the neutrals in and out to the switch and cable into s1 and s2

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do. But I don't think a switch spur is a good option. You need a permanent live & neutral feed at the sonoff to power it unswitched. Then two completely unpowered lines go to S1 and S2 these then connect to your switch (no live or switched live at switch) I hope this helps.

@halpinio1234

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel yeah I am switching kickboard lights off a fused spur. I've just removed the Lin;Lout,and both neutrals and connected them to the sonoff. I then took 2 cables from the s1 and s2 and Co enter them to Lin and Lout in the spur. Does that seem OK to you

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@halpinio1234 yes that should work fine👍. As long as it's a "dead switch", any switch will do, a switched spur is fine.

can this work on a normal light circuite?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

3 жыл бұрын

Yes👍 The sonoff mini should work on any lighting circuit! As long as you can supply the Sonoff with a live and neutral feed . And connect the light switch terminals to the sonoff switch input terminals. The lamp needs to connect to the output of the Sonoff. Here in the UK there is both live and neutral by the lamp fitting.

What if I have a neutral line behind my light switch, how will this change for my situation?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

If you have a neutral behind the light switch, you can definitely put the sonoff mini at the light switch yes!😉. Just remember that and metal backbox will affect the WiFi signal. It should be fine on a drywall with a plastic box.

@sailava88

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel how to find neutral ?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@sailava88 one end of the light bulb is connected to neutral. But you need live and neutral for the Sonoff to work.

Hi will the sonoff mini control a step dimmer LED bulb? Will it be able to via the app or connected switch toggle on and off sufficiently quickly to activate the steps? Or is there a lag in controlling the state that it wouldn't trigger the different levels in the LED?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

There is a very slight lag in the control state. I don't know however if this is enough to not enable your step-dimming function. It's possible when controlling the sonoff mini from the wall switch mode, that it's quick enough for the step dimming function.

@DJDJJ1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel thanks that's very helpful! Just to say that the video was really helpful for thinking about how to improve lights in the UK, thanks. Will probably try and will let you know the results.

@DJDJJ1

2 жыл бұрын

Just to confirm that using the connected wall switch and commands via the app were quick enough to trigger the step dimming. I've not had a play with Alexa but I think there might be too much lag.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@DJDJJ1 I don't own one of these step dimmer type bulbs, so there is no way for me to test if the switching, will actually be quick enough. You might have to bite the bullet and test it, and let us all know you're findings 😉👍.

@DJDJJ1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Yes, sorry if my comment wasn't clear, I have bought and tested one and the wall switch is quick enough! The app control is as well.

Thanks for the video. How do I wire this within a circuit that uses 4 core (brown (L1), black (L2), blue (N), green/yellow (E))? I want to control an extractor fan using the sonoff but I'm not sure with this wiring.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

Is it a bathroom extractor fan, with overrun timer?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

These fans normally have one switched Live (from the light switch) and one permanent Live (for the overrun timer function)

@innesmclean

Жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Thanks for such a fast reply! Yes. I've got a pull cord light and an extractor. Currently the light goes on when I pull the cord (duh ;-) and the extractor goes on too, it stays running on a timer after the light is switched off. My goal is to swap the bulb in the light to a smart bulb that I control with a remote wall switch (so I need to switch the light on permanently at the pull cord) and then use a sonoff to control the on / off of the fan. I'd create a routine that switches the extractor on when the light goes on and switches the extractor 10 minutes after the light is 'switched off'.

@innesmclean

Жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel yes, the fan has Permanent Live, Switched live and neutral

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@innesmclean your Sonoff Minir2 can be used as a smart light switch. That way you wouldn't need a smart bulb, and you can keep the original light switch (pull switch). The light switch can then wired into the Sonoff "input trigger terminals" you would now have smart control of the (dumb) light bulb, and the fan via the sonoff (and old light switch) . The overrun timer should still work as normal. So the mini would do the switching for the light bulb and the fan, with it's relay.

Hi, can a remote or non wire switch can be added with this device, please? Thanks.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Yes you can but you need more hardware, additional receiver board and transmitters switches.

@alundrasrt

2 жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel Damn! I wanted to keep my genuine switch and addind a wireless one. Most of wifi kit need internet and loose my switch on off function. Thanks for the fast reply.

@MyProjectBoxChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@alundrasrt well you can keep your original wall switch with the sonoff mini

How are you dealing with earth continuity? I'm slightly lost with your wiring as no earth is present, and appreciate the diagram it was ommited..

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

The earth wires were omitted just for clarity, to make it easier to "read" the circuit(as they don't contribute circuit function, it's just for safety). All earth connections join together as usual( including metal box connection). I just assumed people would know that.

@benrichards3228

Жыл бұрын

How are you dealing with earth at the sonoff device?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@benrichards3228 The Sonoff does not need to have a earth connection terminated to it directly (not all devices need an earth connection). As long as all the remaining earth wires are connected together, and if you put it into a metal enclosure, the enclosure connects to that earth as well. If you put it all into a plastic enclosure, then all the earth wires go to a Central Terminal connection ( wago connector, or terminal block of your choice). Lots of electronic "mains power modules", do not have an earth connection. Most of them are enclosed in plastic. If you think of those "double-insulated" devices that have a plastic earth pin on the plug(phone chargers for example).

I am in the UK. My Neutral is behind the light switch. how can I adapt that?

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

That means you can put the sonoff mini inside the light switch back box. You should have all the connections that you need right there, provided you have enough free space.

@sohail579

Жыл бұрын

@@MyProjectBoxChannel ok great so use the same prinimcipals but just at the switch I will give it a go

Where there is neutral at the switch in a UK domestic lighting system, how are the connections to the switch made? The permanent lives (from previous fitting and next fitting) are connected together and into 'L-In'.The Neutrals are all connect together and into the 'N-in' ... So that leaves the light fitting. The neutral is connected with the other neutrals, the earth with earth, but what about the L-Out - what connects to this, and switch live - where does this connect to as there is only 1 cable? Seriously racking my brain at the minute...

@MyProjectBoxChannel

Жыл бұрын

In the UK you have a traditional wiring system of a junction box up in the ceiling rose. This is where the light pendant attaches. The Line/Hot, Neutral and Earth, come straight from the Fuse box to this ceiling rose/ junction box. From there the Line drops down to the light switch, and from the switch, the switched-Line goes back up to the junction box/ceiling-rose. And then all the connections for the light pendant is made in that junction box/ceiling rose. There is normally no neutral wire dropping down to the light switch! Only on earth wire for the switch back box. All this means you have all the connections you need, to wire up the sonoff mini, right by the light fixture itself. The wiring system in the UK is a little strange, but once you get used to it, it's actually quite sensible.

You should only need one for the set of lights.