Sonic R - Just Bad Games

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Sonic The Hedgehog has a need for speed! But will Sega Saturn keep up?
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  • @rerez
    @rerez2 жыл бұрын

    Remember folks: We're showing the Sega Saturn release of the game. The PC release was different. All ports of the game since have used the PC release to port from.

  • @EggoBoi

    @EggoBoi

    2 жыл бұрын

    What version is better?

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@EggoBoi Any release that isn't Saturn. But they still have a lot of flaws.

  • @strange_tom

    @strange_tom

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is just sad

  • @creativename_

    @creativename_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez reasons why sonic R was bad 1 the Saturn 2 uh wait what was it? Ah yeah the Saturn

  • @BlazeHT

    @BlazeHT

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone upset that you didn't give Sonic R a fair shake is just commenting without watching to the end of the video where you talk about it being in Sonic Gems.

  • @swagzagoon2596
    @swagzagoon25962 жыл бұрын

    Shane: "3 buttons all mapped to the jump button?" Balan Wonderworld: "You can do that?"

  • @jordo3202

    @jordo3202

    2 жыл бұрын

    this deserves top comment

  • @DarkHeartTheEmo

    @DarkHeartTheEmo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Balan was actually worse,because is every button, to be fair to the Sega Saturn only 3 of the six buttons does the same, I think they were trying yo mimic the Gensis/Mega Drive where the 3 button do the same on a Sonic game.

  • @NashTheBlade

    @NashTheBlade

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, you do know that Balan and Sonic R pretty much ripped the button mapping off from friggin' BUBSY, right?!...I mean, WHO TRIES TO COPY BUBSY?! Especially since Bubsy was trying to be both Mario and Sonic and failing horribly, even including falling damage in a 2D Platformer!

  • @swagzagoon2596

    @swagzagoon2596

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NashTheBlade so Bubsy copied Mario and sonic and Sonic technically copied Mario and then copied Bubsy and Mario Kart? This is like a paradox of coming full circle.

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    If he was shocked at that, then he doesn't want to know how many jump buttons are used for the 6 button Genesis controller..

  • @ArcaneEther
    @ArcaneEther2 жыл бұрын

    The trick to completely breaking this game is...go backwards. As soon as a race starts, turn around and go the wrong way. Complete one lap in the wrong direction, collecting every Ring you can. Since you're doing the lap backwards, you'll reach most of the Rings before any other racers do. This not only makes you insanely fast, but also denies the other racers of most speed boosts. Once you have most of the Rings, grab the Emerald, then start heading the correct direction. Due to you having hoarded all of the Rings, you'll be fast enough to undo the difference in lap distance and still grab the 1st place.

  • @HoChiMints2007

    @HoChiMints2007

    2 жыл бұрын

    now that's a pro strat!

  • @FoolishFoolers

    @FoolishFoolers

    2 жыл бұрын

    You do know that the rings respawn, right? I don’t think this strat would work most of the time. Sure, maybe if you’re only after the racing aspect, but if you go after every collectible the computer is going to kick your ass, especially in reactive factory

  • @teddybeer6206

    @teddybeer6206

    2 жыл бұрын

    See...now THIS is a fun fact!!!

  • @santocuban7086

    @santocuban7086

    2 жыл бұрын

    i think I should try that next time I hook up my Saturn. sorta reminds my big riggs. except Sonic R isn't as broken as that

  • @dontegraves5051

    @dontegraves5051

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a terrible strategy that would only work for the very first race and only if you are playing as Sonic. Every other character is simply too slow for this to even be feasible. The AI is not stupid enough to just let you win races.

  • @SpideyfanX
    @SpideyfanX2 жыл бұрын

    Anybody else want the "Just Bad" video of Sonic '06 to be like almost an hour long or something?

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Okay! Sounds like fun. :)

  • @jakescartoons6045

    @jakescartoons6045

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez Don't bother. To be honest, I'm getting really sick of people complaining about Sonic games in general, especially Sonic 06. Also, get better at Sonic R. Like, holy crap. That gameplay was painful to watch.

  • @Commenter560

    @Commenter560

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jakescartoons6045 Say what you will, it's okay to have an opinion, but I for one would watch the heck out of that. I hope they actually do it. I got my friend a new copy of Sonic '06 on PS3 for Christmas a few years back as a kind of gag gift. 😄 Good times were had.

  • @jakescartoons6045

    @jakescartoons6045

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Commenter560 I can't trust the words from Rerez though, and this video is proof of that. It's nothing but complaining, and they didn't bring up a single positive point for "Sonic R". I've played the game myself on both the Saturn and Gamecube, and it really isn't as bad as they're making it out to be. Mediocre? Sure, but not terrible. Also, the idea of bashing "Sonic 06" has been beaten to the ground repeatedly. What will Rerez say that hasn't been said before?

  • @Commenter560

    @Commenter560

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jakescartoons6045 I gotcha. It's possible that they purposely make their videos this way, with an unspoken shtick of eggageration. I have Sonic R on GameCube myself. May have to give it more of a chance based on what you think. As for Sonic '06, for me it wouldn't even necessarily be that they have anything new to add, though that would be great. The reason this channel stands out so much to me is because of the high-quality presentation, along with the attention to detail regarding the actual content in the videos. They have what I could call "the Rerez style" that really makes them stand out. I can tell these guys are truly passionate about gaming.

  • @J3tr0cks
    @J3tr0cks Жыл бұрын

    This game is super nostalgic for me. Me and my siblings would play it together on the Sonic Gems Collection. No, we didn’t race. We would play hide and seek by covering one half of the TV with a DDR mat and the other person had to run around the level looking for them.

  • @Goodbadie

    @Goodbadie

    Жыл бұрын

    I used to do this as well with my brother but it was black ops 2 😂

  • @Heavylicious

    @Heavylicious

    Жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough I did a similar thing but it was with Kirby Air Ride in City Trial; having all the machines available in the free roaming mode for that meant basically everything was an option. Now the DDR mat pat I don't think was a thing... then again I had one from DDR Mario Mix but that was so long ago I wouldn't remember.

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    Жыл бұрын

    That's freakin awesome, I've never heard of that but my sister and I would've loved that as kids

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Goodbadie that should be an actual multiplayer mode. 1v1 or teams. One side has guns (nothing with splash damage and no killstreaks - you're required to directly spot someone in order to kill them), the other just sees how long they can survive by staying hidden or evading. Then they switch. Longest lives = winners!

  • @jacksonteller3973

    @jacksonteller3973

    10 ай бұрын

    @@nthgth yeah that's a good idea for a game mode.

  • @fragmentofself
    @fragmentofself2 жыл бұрын

    I like how the game tells you to "Reverse" when it thinks you're going the wrong way, but there is no reverse function. Very Sega of you... Oh wait...

  • @thickskulls

    @thickskulls

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's the joke?

  • @dlib89

    @dlib89

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was a F1 racing game... so... it's not so strange at all, they left it on purpose xD

  • @andersgale9544

    @andersgale9544

    2 жыл бұрын

    Checkout the KZread channel GameHut. It's from sonicR head developer, he explains that this game was based on a formula one racing game.

  • @arandomworm8713

    @arandomworm8713

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Sega did what Nintendon't"

  • @KeybladeMasterAndy
    @KeybladeMasterAndy2 жыл бұрын

    Developer Jon Burton probably has some stories of this game's development on his youtube channels, Gamehut/Coding Secrets.

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jon has a great channel!

  • @CheosgamerX-vg6xd

    @CheosgamerX-vg6xd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez can u review a bad mario game now it's only fair

  • @graphicsgod

    @graphicsgod

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CheosgamerX-vg6xd Hotel Mario?? 🤔🤔

  • @CheosgamerX-vg6xd

    @CheosgamerX-vg6xd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@graphicsgod now that's what I'm talking about

  • @k_kubes

    @k_kubes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CheosgamerX-vg6xd Mario Missing?

  • @SecondBestArtMuseum
    @SecondBestArtMuseum2 жыл бұрын

    “Three buttons all make you jump” A prelude to the magic of Banald Wonderworld.

  • @bland9876

    @bland9876

    5 ай бұрын

    3 buttons normally make you jump in Sonic. At least on the Genesis.

  • @MrBlueSkyof1607

    @MrBlueSkyof1607

    4 ай бұрын

    Makes too much sense. Same developers.

  • @catscanhavelittleasalami

    @catscanhavelittleasalami

    2 ай бұрын

    banald wonderworld

  • @SecondBestArtMuseum

    @SecondBestArtMuseum

    2 ай бұрын

    @@catscanhavelittleasalami You know, funniest thing is, I just saw the Rerez Balan video being recommended on my homepage. I'm watching it this very second and I just saw a notification that I got a comment on this post. Crazy how coincidental that is.

  • @inklingpro792
    @inklingpro7922 жыл бұрын

    It’s obviously crazy how the AI players actually know they don’t need to do the loop to loop and pass the finish line

  • @MSOGameShow
    @MSOGameShow2 жыл бұрын

    "You can walk vertically up the wall" Huh, so that's where Dimps got their inspiration for Sonic 4's physics...

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or Sonic 06 with its occasional “anti-gravity” glitch when going through loops

  • @magnatcleo2043

    @magnatcleo2043

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Big Rigs too. That game feels like the devs were trying to find mistakes in games, just for the sake of doing absolutely everything as wrong as possible.

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    These games did gravity defying gameplay before Mario Galaxy did it correctly

  • @Yahoolius

    @Yahoolius

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Hey, it's spider man!"

  • @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 aswell as sonic adventure one's spindash

  • @StormsparkPegasus
    @StormsparkPegasus2 жыл бұрын

    Traveller's Tales actually did a great job with what they were given. They did a lot of graphical stuff thought to be impossible on the Saturn. The gameplay of the game sucked though, because TT was not given enough time to actually make it a decent game, and Sega rushed it out.

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally 100% agree. This is Sega's fault pure and simple.

  • @puddleglum3306

    @puddleglum3306

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez No excuse for the shitty controls.

  • @AlastorAltruistGaming

    @AlastorAltruistGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez as was everything else prior to & after the Saturn. SEGA, as far as I’m concerned, should’ve known that Microsoft, Sony & Nintendo were already beating them to the punch; the straw that breaks the camel’s back is that they’ve made incredibly terrible design choices & were trying way too hard to take control over Nintendo. So essentially, much like Sonic, they were getting pretty cocky. The only good thing Sonic R is good for, is that Curse of the Tails Doll creepypasta.

  • @1Thunderfire

    @1Thunderfire

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rushing things out seems to be the number one reason for poor Sega games.

  • @StormsparkPegasus

    @StormsparkPegasus

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@1Thunderfire Definitely...and they never seem to learn from that, and keep doing it, and keep ending up shocked when things like Sonic 06 turn out to be crap.

  • @SquallyCoin5664
    @SquallyCoin5664 Жыл бұрын

    11:59 You actually don’t need to wait for the pyramid to open. When you open the door, the collision on the pyramid turns off meaning you can waltz right through the pyramid walls and nab that emerald.

  • @tafua_a

    @tafua_a

    3 ай бұрын

    I grabbed the desert Chaos Emerald by randomly going through the secret door while trying to understand where I was supposed to go.

  • @tbonbrad
    @tbonbrad2 жыл бұрын

    Someone really needs to give this idea another shot.

  • @calemr

    @calemr

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a lot of good memories of Sonic and Sega All-stars. Personally, I preferred it to some of the newer Mario Karts.

  • @TatankaTaylor

    @TatankaTaylor

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe the idea was shot in the head. And its dead, Jim. It doesn't need another shot.

  • @austinreed7343

    @austinreed7343

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mad Dash Racing is one such example, though Shantae could do this thing pretty well.

  • @midorifox

    @midorifox

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try SRB2, there's a Race mode, and the controls are pretty decent.

  • @randomprotag9329

    @randomprotag9329

    Жыл бұрын

    given that its a technically impressive game given that it was made in any form and only the game play is shaky, a anouther attempt when there is less techincal limitations would be interesting as well as the expanded cast since then

  • @JSmoothGamer
    @JSmoothGamer2 жыл бұрын

    The game had some banger soundtracks, you can't argue with that

  • @dunkanbulk14

    @dunkanbulk14

    2 жыл бұрын

    a bad Sonic game with a good soundtrack? gee, that sounds awfully familiar...

  • @nathanblevins5483

    @nathanblevins5483

    2 жыл бұрын

    There a lot more great songs with a bad sonic game.

  • @dunkanbulk14

    @dunkanbulk14

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanblevins5483 i was mostly talking about Sonic 06, but, yeah

  • @DW-es3iy

    @DW-es3iy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dunkanbulk14 ppl don’t talk about 06 soundtrack enough. Ofc bc the game is shitty but it still stands

  • @sorakh4119

    @sorakh4119

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep. While Sega fucks up with the games we can’t deny they always do good with the music.

  • @finessemeister
    @finessemeister2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, for those of us that unlocked all secret characters and super sonic at 10 years old have reached elite gamer status.

  • @ShaimingLong

    @ShaimingLong

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was also great fun as a 10 year old inviting a friend to play it with you, letting them go with Super Sonic and still beating them when playing as Amy or Eggman.

  • @unendingquandary

    @unendingquandary

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this game as a kid. I can be more critical of it now that I'm older, but as a kid this game was pure fun. That's gotta count for something, dammit!

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    2 жыл бұрын

    I get where you guys are coming from, but I guarantee you that more fun would've been had with that time and energy devoted to Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong Racing. And to a considerably lesser extent, Twisted Metal 2 and Gran Turismo.

  • @ShaimingLong

    @ShaimingLong

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nthgth I don't know, Mario Kart was mostly drift to win assuming items didn't screw you over, which just makes it more frustrating than fun to me. Never played Diddy Kong, but the little I have seen of it makes it seem more interesting. Mostly in that there's flying. Twisted Metal was fun, I'll give you that, but in a distinctly different way, but the single player could absolutely be a frustrating endeavour at times. Lastly, Gran Turismo was a meh to me. At the time I really didn't like sim racers, even now I'm not especially fond of them. Sim racers like Forza Horizon that get away from the standard race tracks are a major personal preference, and even then I can get bored fairly quickly. Around that time, what I'd say was the most enjoyable racer for me (and my friends too luckily) was San Francisco Rush 2049. Criminally underrated, functional open maps with a plethora of secrets and alternate routes. It has a battle mode similar to Twisted Metal, though there's no bots unfortunately. A stunt mode, as the cars have wings to glide and provide a modicum of air control. Also has a love it or hate it soundtrack. Yes Sonic R is flawed and strictly speaking the games you suggested were technically better, but Sonic R does have an unique charm in it's flaws. While the complexity of the tracks is a bit much, I love that you can go your own way in the races, plus the characters actually play distinctly differently unlike most racers.

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShaimingLong Very fair comments. I wouldn't altogether agree about Mario Kart - it seems to me, mostly item use and maneuvering are the keys to winning (steering, I don't really drift) - but I *100% agree* about Rush 2049. I thought about mentioning it in my original comment, but decided against it since it's pretty obscure. I grew up with older SF Rush and Rush 2 which are more rudimentary, but nonetheless my cousin and I got countless hours of fun out of those too.

  • @BinglesP
    @BinglesP2 жыл бұрын

    That little segment at 14:40 comparing Sonic R to Mario Kart 64 and Diddy Kong Racing was pretty satisfying

  • @mariajimenafigueroa233

    @mariajimenafigueroa233

    Жыл бұрын

    Diddy will always be #1 in our hearts

  • @TailsDefo

    @TailsDefo

    Жыл бұрын

    ngl mario kart 64 is really shitty

  • @TornaderX

    @TornaderX

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah, but then we all know CTR beat the s*** out of both games making them dated as hell

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@TornaderXCTR is good but unnecessary in a world with DKR and MK64. Unless all you have is a PlayStation.

  • @TornaderX

    @TornaderX

    Ай бұрын

    @@nthgth Yeah sure, If someone actively wants to punish himself with terrible controls. I played (and completed) both of them recently, they aged badly compared for say F Zero X which still owesome nowadays. oh, and "unnecessary" isn't exatcly what I call a game from which nintendo baesd some of the mechanics in their later installments. Don't get me wrong, I adore Double Dash, MK DS, MK 7 and 8 and played them a lot of times and other nintendo games in general, but I'm a little tired of people calling CTR inferior or even unnecessary with no actual reason. Peace out

  • @admiralAlfonso9001
    @admiralAlfonso9001 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like if they were given more time this would be an amazing game, it’s definitely the most “Sonic” out of all the Sonic racing games

  • @AlexHidanBR

    @AlexHidanBR

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree, with Team Sonic Racing or Sonic Drift 1&2 coming in second

  • @GUNUFofficial

    @GUNUFofficial

    8 ай бұрын

    Sonic riders: AIGHT KEEP PRETENDING I DON'T EXIST!

  • @constantlycorrect8550

    @constantlycorrect8550

    4 ай бұрын

    What? This game is amazing.

  • @Skippyxlxlxl
    @Skippyxlxlxl2 жыл бұрын

    The music was good, that I unironically listen to it from time to time.

  • @BrattySuccuboi

    @BrattySuccuboi

    2 жыл бұрын

    same.

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you feel the sunshine, does it brighten up your dayyyyy?

  • @BrattySuccuboi

    @BrattySuccuboi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 finding remixes of that song is always a treat

  • @SoggyHotDoggy

    @SoggyHotDoggy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 DONT YOU FEEL THAT SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO RUN AWAY? I’m pretty sure you can’t be in a bad mood when that song plays

  • @cfruge444

    @cfruge444

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SoggyHotDoggy Plus, creepypasta references aside, the Tails Doll was apparently the best character in the game because of being able to float, and Boozerman's mother-son headcanon for Marine and him is fucking adorable, IMO.

  • @orrinmenkins2916
    @orrinmenkins29162 жыл бұрын

    I'm proud of you guys for not making a "OOOOO SPOOPY TAILS DOLL CREEPYPASTA!" joke.

  • @integillentguy7735

    @integillentguy7735

    2 жыл бұрын

    a Tails Doll joke would be better than some of the jokes in this video.

  • @Kimarnic

    @Kimarnic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wish they made it instead of using the screaming guy 3 times Or the unfunny water burbling

  • @rcmero

    @rcmero

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wait, Tails Doll is still a thing? Everyone just cares about Sonic.exe now.

  • @citizensnips2400

    @citizensnips2400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kimarnic I don’t understand why people feel the need to scream until their lungs fill with blood for things to be funny.

  • @BlazeHeartPanther

    @BlazeHeartPanther

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Kimarnic "WhAt Is GoInG oN uP tHeEeEeErE!!!!"

  • @blackheartzerotheundergrou3225
    @blackheartzerotheundergrou3225 Жыл бұрын

    Plot Twist: the Tails Doll is actually haunted by the ghost of the money wasted buying Sonic R.

  • @tsukasa19
    @tsukasa192 жыл бұрын

    In regards to the Chaos Emeralds in Regal Ruins, the pyramids lose their collision the moment their respective doors are unlocked. So you technically don't have to return on the next lap or stand there and wait to collect; you can just run straight through them and grab the emeralds.

  • @TornaderX

    @TornaderX

    5 ай бұрын

    Don't stress to much, they didn't understand the game and will never care to

  • @Schnort

    @Schnort

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@TornaderX To be fair, this is the average person's experience with this game. Normal (healthy) people aren't as willing to sit through a bunch of junk as we are.

  • @tsukasa19

    @tsukasa19

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Schnort I’d consider my time with the game casual. I just happen to play it again after years and found out about the pyramid thing by accident because I ran into one. Figured other people did the same due to the game’s insistence about getting first place with the emeralds because I sure as hell didn’t remember a thing about Sonic R before playing it again.

  • @TornaderX

    @TornaderX

    4 ай бұрын

    @@Schnort well... that's pretty true 😅

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan2 жыл бұрын

    There’s one good thing though: “Can you feel the sunshine…” 🎶

  • @ShaimingLong

    @ShaimingLong

    2 жыл бұрын

    Does it brighten up your day?

  • @chadtaylor3292

    @chadtaylor3292

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does.... it does indeed brighten my day lol

  • @cocoonmebalanstheatre2371

    @cocoonmebalanstheatre2371

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t you feel that sometimes you just need to run away...

  • @johnyoung8991

    @johnyoung8991

    2 жыл бұрын

    Reach out for the sunshine... Forget about the rain

  • @AssassinDevil34

    @AssassinDevil34

    2 жыл бұрын

    Living in the city and that diamond song for Me

  • @Nov-5062
    @Nov-50622 жыл бұрын

    I really love how you don't have to run through the loops, you can just pass near them. In fact, passing by them really shortens the tracks. I love this game. Everything goes in it. It's a race to the death.

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, the game lets you play the way you want it to, and it even lets the AI also play how it wants, props to them letting me drive up to a pillar and do some weird ramp glitch to send me into space.

  • @YourCrazyOverlord
    @YourCrazyOverlord2 жыл бұрын

    At least it has *one* thing going for it: that soundtrack *SLAPS!*

  • @alexthejapanfan7905

    @alexthejapanfan7905

    2 жыл бұрын

    And The SS Version Looked Great, More So With It's Lighting Too. That's Other Thing Going for it imo. (Thanks Blaze The Hedgehog for showing it out in your Sonic R Video, Just In Case He's Watching ths video.)

  • @cfruge444

    @cfruge444

    Жыл бұрын

    Also, the creepypasta fandom's love-hate relationship with the Tails Doll - who's incidentally the best character in the game.

  • @GuywithabadenglishOfficcial

    @GuywithabadenglishOfficcial

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexthejapanfan7905 SS?

  • @cfruge444

    @cfruge444

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GuywithabadenglishOfficcial Super Sonic, I guess.

  • @TBTabby

    @TBTabby

    11 ай бұрын

    @@GuywithabadenglishOfficcial Sega Saturn.

  • @andersgale9544
    @andersgale95442 жыл бұрын

    *The head developer of this game has a KZread channel called GameHut, he seems very proud of the translucent R icon in the main Menu, explaining how he managed that amazing effect.*

  • @LeSarthois

    @LeSarthois

    2 жыл бұрын

    As weird as it seems, the hardware in the Saturn indeed can't do transparency without serious trickery; that is probably why he is so proud of something that appears to be so trivial.

  • @Roadent1241

    @Roadent1241

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't blame him, I love it!

  • @peterjohnson9438

    @peterjohnson9438

    Жыл бұрын

    He has several other videos about Sonic R, showing that the people complaining about Traveler's Tales programming abilities are barking up the wrong tree. This game would have needed a lot more design, tuning and QA time, but that just wasn't happening - much like Big Rigs, this game was shipped once it reached the "well it's no longer crashing after being on for 20 minutes" kind of stage in development. Jon is an extremely competent programmer - given enough time to devote to actually making the game feel good this could have been right up there with Mario Kart. The fault is with SEGA on this one.

  • @medes5597

    @medes5597

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@peterjohnson9438 yep, he says in one of those videos that Sega told them they had a year more than they ended up having - and it was a rush at the original pace. Jon says that basically once Sega realised the Saturn needed a big release, it went from "give us the sonic version of something like Mario Kart" to "give us something we can release now, as long as it doesn't crash"

  • @peterjohnson9438

    @peterjohnson9438

    Жыл бұрын

    @@medes5597 that still happens: investor and publisher pressure causes bad releases. When good developers release bad games, the problem can usually be found at the top: project management decides they can get a bigger game done faster if only they make the devs have more meetings and submit reports, or the publisher starts pushing aggressive marketing way before the game is even in beta phase, investors start demanding a game be released right now because they're tired of waiting for results (usually happens if a project is going into overtime for some reason).. Good developers with a good prototype can make a good game 90% of the time, but nobody will like the results if their hands are metaphorically tied behind their back or someone forces the game onto market before it's finished. To this day I don't get why the concept of "unfinished game is bad, bad game doesn't sell" is so hard for a businessperson to understand.

  • @shaymiestar3566
    @shaymiestar35662 жыл бұрын

    There’s honestly some pretty good concepts in this game. Too bad they’re all executed horribly.

  • @nyahnyahson523

    @nyahnyahson523

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I feel like this game would've worked pretty well with Kirby Air Ride design. Intensely focused on speed and using a dash in order to drift/turn, no clue if that would've been possible on the Saturn though.

  • @Acacius1992

    @Acacius1992

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nyahnyahson523 Yeah. Also i realy would wish for a new Kirby air ride for the switch. Especially the city trial modus was just amazing! Just make it with more maps and online modus :D

  • @LeSarthois

    @LeSarthois

    2 жыл бұрын

    My though exactly; as the game mechanics were explained, I kept thinking "This sounds good, this is clever". In fact it's probably that mix of mechanics that brought the game down, with developers having to cope with several different gameplay mechanics that probably couldn't have worked together fine. Hell, the ballon thing bugged me to no end. If you told me "Let's make a Sonic racing game mode where you have to collect items to win" my first though would me "CHAOS EMERALDS" And yes, the Chaos Emeralds are in the game. Except, not where it belongs. This game would probably had benefited from having a "classic race mode", a "collectathon mode" (where having more rings and/or finding secrat paths give you bonus so you could end 2nd or 3rd and yet still win) and the "balloon/Chaos Emerald collect" game. Of course, if would have benefited form having better race design, more balanced characters, and better handling overall... But even with good, tight control, as it is, the game would be only somewhat better.

  • @ars731
    @ars7312 жыл бұрын

    The Sega Saturn in general should be taught as an example of how not to launch an console. Between their jumping the gun on the release date and angrying consumers and retails alike to Sega of Japan and Sega of America not being on the same page. It's an miracle it lasted 2 years. Also being hard to develop didn't help

  • @eins2001

    @eins2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Angering* It lived on way longer in Japan and still has the odd new game being released.

  • @LeoMidori

    @LeoMidori

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say looking at Sega's history through the 90's is how to absolutely mess up a great running start before utterly wiping out over and over. Too many consoles/add-ons, bad leadership, some confused marketing, and terrible cross Pacific working relationship between the two company branches.

  • @Z64sports

    @Z64sports

    2 жыл бұрын

    What country is that flag?

  • @LeoMidori

    @LeoMidori

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Z64sports For Alex Stallwitz? That's the pansexual pride flag.

  • @bowserpog

    @bowserpog

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LeoMidori thats a weird country

  • @Sakf504
    @Sakf5042 жыл бұрын

    I really love that "WHAT'S GOING ON UP THERE?" clip, that Saturn ad was so bad it's sooooo good lmao.

  • @timg2727
    @timg272711 ай бұрын

    Travelers Tales is the weirdest mixed bag of a developer. They pulled off some amazing technical feats in the 16 and 32 bit eras, but the games themselves were often not great.

  • @gsctsnet2453

    @gsctsnet2453

    7 ай бұрын

    Not always a great programmer is demanded to code a great game. This game was made in a rush, and TT didn't decide the concept of the game (also for obvious reasons).

  • @gsctsnet2453

    @gsctsnet2453

    7 ай бұрын

    When you understand the amount of time, work and planning those games took, even if disliking the gameplay, you learn to enjoy this is part of the work of one of the most successful programmers of the Genesis and Saturn eras, and understand that a really bad game is very different from this. Very easily games like Sonic And The Secret Rings took the hell of a less amount of work, distributed by a team of many, with no innovative programming techniques and no actual pushing of the limitations of the console they were made in. The way I see it, Sonic R is quite a good game comparing to many of the modern era Sonic games. This is like if you try to compare Pacman with Cyperpunk. Pacman is still better. Think about this.

  • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    6 ай бұрын

    A great example of a flawed game with a lot of potential is Super Monkey Ball Adventure. Just like Sonic R, the idea and execution is amazing on paper.

  • @elin111
    @elin1112 жыл бұрын

    "3 buttons do the same thing" Balan: Hold my beer.

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sonic's been doing that since child birth, if you played Sonic 1 with a 6 button controller you'd know the horrors of, THE SIX BUTTONS THAT ONLY JUMP.

  • @Tom-jw7ii

    @Tom-jw7ii

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 The top 3 buttons don’t do anything.

  • @superalt513

    @superalt513

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 Well here's the thing: SONIC 1 REALLY USED THR JUMPS SINCE IT WAS A PLATFORMER THAT WORKS.

  • @ravelinoadityaa.k.amasamun7721

    @ravelinoadityaa.k.amasamun7721

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bubsy: Bruh, what am I? A roach?

  • @NeonWasInUse

    @NeonWasInUse

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Tom-jw7ii number 2 will surprise you

  • @sittaman
    @sittaman2 жыл бұрын

    As Jon Burton states, Sonic R was meant to be a completely different Formula 1 game. Sega demanded it to be harshly turned into a Sonic racing game after the Sonic Xtreme demise.

  • @BurningWinds
    @BurningWinds Жыл бұрын

    They should have a series titled it's just good, in which they cover legends, and hidden gems

  • @Sonic171K
    @Sonic171K2 жыл бұрын

    I actually love Sonic R. Played it this year for the first time in Sonic Gems Collection. It’s a unique on-foot racing game with exploration to it. I really love the banger music and play it outside the game. Even with all the problems I can still have a fun time with R. Beaten and unlocked everything in the game. With no good balancing, this isn’t a fair game. Good thing I decide to play it by myself. Can’t imagine making anyone play this game they might not tolerate how it is.

  • @medes5597

    @medes5597

    Жыл бұрын

    The gems collection uses the improved pc port. Which is a lot more tolerable than the original saturn release. One of the travellers tales devs has a KZread channel about coding and even he says the original saturn release was deeply messed up. And the thing is, the pc port is just rebalanced a bit and given a month or so of fixes from the devs and it's not bad. Imagine how good Sonic R could have been had they actually given them the extra year Sega had originally told travellers tales they had. It could have genuinely been an all time great, and really helped point the direction for 3D sonic. It was such a missed opportunity.

  • @gsctsnet2453

    @gsctsnet2453

    7 ай бұрын

    Very easily games like Sonic And The Secret Rings took the hell of a less amount of work, distributed by a team of many, with no innovative programming techniques and no actual pushing of the limitations of the console they were made in. The way I see it, Sonic R is quite a good game comparing to many of the modern era Sonic games. This is like if you try to compare Pacman with Cyperpunk, Pacman is still better. I also personally don't think the game is really that bad. It looks pretty good for the time it was made on.

  • @tafua_a

    @tafua_a

    3 ай бұрын

    The controls are slightly better and the graphics are improved massively. I played both the Saturn version and the Sonic Gems version: with the first, I couldn't win a single race even on easy, with the other I unlocked Eggman in the span of under an hour on medium.

  • @imfireingmylazer
    @imfireingmylazer2 жыл бұрын

    The music is 🔥 though

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fact.

  • @Mr.Maguro

    @Mr.Maguro

    2 жыл бұрын

    🎶 Livin' in the city You know you got to survive You got to keep the dream alive Where everything is free, can't you see? 🎶

  • @Rifky809

    @Rifky809

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mr.Maguro banger

  • @juliangandara9552

    @juliangandara9552

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, the only thing i know this game for, is the Tails Doll creppypasta

  • @jjeaze

    @jjeaze

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big facts

  • @consecrated2718
    @consecrated27182 жыл бұрын

    I remember being a young kid and playing this on the demo station in Best Buy. It was so cool to see Sonic in 3D that I put up with the running controls….oh man the abuse started so long ago…

  • @zandernewson9933
    @zandernewson99332 жыл бұрын

    This was my first sonic game, and for years, I thought they were all like this. I actually remember being creeped out by the game

  • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    6 ай бұрын

    Tails doll's lifeless motion might be why.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself2 жыл бұрын

    "Having an overpowered character that can easily beat all the other racers completely breaks the game!" _Gran Turismo 2 Escudo memories intensify_ .

  • @eins2001

    @eins2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Ford GT40 in Rome intensifies*

  • @tboneanimatetwoaccount2094

    @tboneanimatetwoaccount2094

    2 жыл бұрын

    This statement is also true for Funky Kong in Mario Kart Wii.

  • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

    @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716

    2 жыл бұрын

    Akuma from streetfighter,

  • @paulustrucenus

    @paulustrucenus

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am not at all in the Gran Turismo fandom and I know very little about the games. Yet I've already played it a bit at my uncle's house, AND THIS TOTALLY SPEAKS TO ME.

  • @twiinArmageddons

    @twiinArmageddons

    2 жыл бұрын

    Meta knight, just meta knight.

  • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
    @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE2 жыл бұрын

    According to director Jon Burton, who was one of the responsible people for this garbage, there is a reason why the controls suck: It was initially developed as an Formula 1 game (there's even a McLaren MP4-11 in the hidden files), but Sega suddenly appeared and asked them to retool it into a Sonic racing game with platforming elements.

  • @brawler5760

    @brawler5760

    Жыл бұрын

    If that’s the case, good fucken lord I bet it would still be bad as an F1 game.

  • @TheInfamousLegend27

    @TheInfamousLegend27

    Жыл бұрын

    i have to ask for a detailed rundown of why ppl say the controls suck because i've played each version of this game, and i've never struggled with the controls (^ ▽ ^;)

  • @texrot9781

    @texrot9781

    Жыл бұрын

    @@brawler5760 I wouldn't, it's kinda obvious that it was configured to fit into Sonic in an early stage

  • @deanlangdale7315
    @deanlangdale73152 жыл бұрын

    This game is actually a guilty pleasure for me and i love the track design. Also the soundtrack is amazing.

  • @Romanticoutlaw

    @Romanticoutlaw

    11 ай бұрын

    "🎵 everybody's super sonic racing 🎵 " sometimes just slides into my mind unbidden. Catchy as all hell

  • @bland9876

    @bland9876

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@Romanticoutlawyou can get the mp3 of the music somehow yes legally I payed for it. It even comes with instrumental versions of the songs.

  • @stupidstormy36
    @stupidstormy362 жыл бұрын

    What's even worse is that this isn't the first Sonic racing game. There were a couple on the Game Gear called Sonic Drift and Sonic Drift 2 released in 1994 and 1995 respectively.

  • @WarCrimeGaming

    @WarCrimeGaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Sonic R looks like a masterpiece compared to the first Sonic Drift

  • @SKIMER
    @SKIMER2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to remind you that Traveller's Tales made that game, not Sega itself Sonic Team was just helping them with Sega properties

  • @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819

    @bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819

    2 жыл бұрын

    And way more help than they gave to Sega of America with Sonic X-Treme, which is unsurprising.

  • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE

    @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819 I mean, near the cancellation, the developers were overworking to the point of inhumane, and it ended up in some actually getting ill (Chris Senn, the main programmer for example got a pneumonia).

  • @stormbunevitch4933

    @stormbunevitch4933

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't TT help with Crash Bandicoot: WOC?

  • @jaygooese4242

    @jaygooese4242

    2 жыл бұрын

    Question who likes Diddy Kong Racing compared to this game

  • @KamyAnai03

    @KamyAnai03

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stormbunevitch4933 Crash TWOC is just as ugly as Sonic R .

  • @ios4888
    @ios48882 жыл бұрын

    Can’t lie, this game is a guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy playing through it from time to time, even if it does take only 45 minutes to complete. I’d like to see Sonic make another attempt at on-foot racing.

  • @gracekim25

    @gracekim25

    2 жыл бұрын

    And that’s totally fine 🙂

  • @camharkness

    @camharkness

    2 жыл бұрын

    This and all the hydlide games are my guilty pleasures.

  • @LARKXHIN

    @LARKXHIN

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't feel guilty about loving it at all. It was a staple of my childhood and I still have fun.

  • @ios4888

    @ios4888

    2 жыл бұрын

    This game is pretty poop, I can see that. That said, it’s hated on way too much. Someone in the comments compared it to Superman 64 which is just absurd. Superman 64 is one of the most notorious games ever, and while Sonic R isn’t good by any means, it really can’t be that bad when it only takes 45 minutes to finish. If this was on the scale of say Forza Horizon then yeah, it’d blow. But it’s not, it’s just kind of “whatever.”

  • @caseykazem4049

    @caseykazem4049

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know that would make total sense right,

  • @LoganWH8
    @LoganWH82 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact about Diddy Kong racing since you mentioned it, the OST came on a CD that couldn’t actually be played because it was shaped like Diddy Kong’s head instead of being a circle

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    4 ай бұрын

    I remember that from the Nintendo Power catalog lol. I figured the disc could be played because of the audio track being within a circular domain on the weird shaped CD, but never tried it myself

  • @Bopperann
    @Bopperann2 жыл бұрын

    Sega: Hey kid, wanna make a Sonic game? Kid: What's Sonic? Sega: You have two months to complete it.

  • @leandroeidi
    @leandroeidi2 жыл бұрын

    I was a SEGA fanboy who didn't have a Saturn because my parents refused to buy me one. After a few years I played Sonic Gems Collections and finally tried Sonic R, and I couldn't believe how bad it was. My surprise now knowing it was actually a better version than the original.

  • @mr.tadpole1697

    @mr.tadpole1697

    2 жыл бұрын

    My copy of Gem's collection crashed when I tried to run Sonic R. So I guess I got lucky.

  • @fabiandimaspratamathesecond

    @fabiandimaspratamathesecond

    2 жыл бұрын

    Strange, since control on PC version of Sonic R is just fine.

  • @Superluigi881

    @Superluigi881

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a sonic on foot racing game. It should be a no brainer. But they fucked it up so badly it's barely been attempted since and they mostly just force him into cars now... at least Sonic Rivals 1 was decent and 2 was actually pretty awesome. Then again at the time this game was basically filler so the Saturn would get a Sonic game at all because Sonic Xtreme's development went so horribly wrong so maybe it just couldn't get the polish it needed.

  • @jakescartoons6045

    @jakescartoons6045

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh come on guys. The game isn't bad. I refuse to believe that. I've played games that are absolute trash, and "Sonic R" doesn't cut it. And no, I'm not saying it's my favorite game of all time (honestly, "Daytona USA" takes that spot), but the negative reactions towards "Sonic R" is way too overblown.

  • @AngelEmfrbl

    @AngelEmfrbl

    2 жыл бұрын

    These guys are bad at playing it... each character had different speed, turning and abilities.

  • @putridscene
    @putridscene2 жыл бұрын

    With the right version, Sonic R is absolutely a fun little diversion today. That doesn't change the fact that upon release it was yet another bad decision that helped bring down an entire console. On a system with no mainline Sonic game, no one was asking for this. Historical context matters.

  • @jimswag1217

    @jimswag1217

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Saturn was dead long before Sonic R was released. Bernie Stolar's "The Saturn is not our future" at the year's E3 was the final straw.

  • @MountainMemelord

    @MountainMemelord

    9 күн бұрын

    Well, it WOULD'VE had one, if Yuji Naka allowed the use of the engine that he made for NiGHTS.

  • @theamazingmeh1759
    @theamazingmeh17595 ай бұрын

    Aww, I liked the previous thumbnail

  • @MarcBrightside
    @MarcBrightside2 жыл бұрын

    The fact that a lot of Sonic fans claim this game is passable speaks volumes about how low the expectations are for Sonic when all is said and done.

  • @Magitek1112
    @Magitek11122 жыл бұрын

    The developers also made two decent kart racing games for the PS1 (Toy Story Racer and Muppet Racemania)

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then later they made games like Crash Twinsanity and the lego games

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Presumably they took just a bit more direction from MK64 those times

  • @Deadsea_1993

    @Deadsea_1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    Toy Story Racer wasn't just decent, it was amazing. The amount that you could do in the game with battle modes with the Ai, race maps in reverse, race your opponents and the last racer will drop out on every lap (which was intense cause it would be down to you and your opponent).

  • @setsers1

    @setsers1

    2 жыл бұрын

    AWESOME

  • @setsers1

    @setsers1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 hell yeah

  • @FerHivore
    @FerHivore2 жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty crazy seeing such a critical review of this game after watching the lead developer, Jon Burton, talk about how he made the fade-in effect for the short draw distance. Don’t get me wrong, the criticism seems well deserved; it’s just such a different perspective going from the developer’s achievements to the players’ annoyance.

  • @jakescartoons6045

    @jakescartoons6045

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think the "criticism" is deserved at all.

  • @treestomped6954
    @treestomped69542 жыл бұрын

    As someone who's been watching the channel since 2014, this descent into madness was a lot slower than you'd think.

  • @medes5597

    @medes5597

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember early on when people complained that the Just Bad Games series wasn't very good? That was dumb.

  • @Yahoolius
    @Yahoolius2 жыл бұрын

    17:54 when he said "balloon" *I felt that*

  • @MdSolehin
    @MdSolehin2 жыл бұрын

    Sonic R : it's just bad!!! Sonic 06 : allow me to introduce myself !!!

  • @fnsmstudios5269

    @fnsmstudios5269

    2 жыл бұрын

    Money ghost: Stop buying these terrible f*cking games!

  • @Kimarnic

    @Kimarnic

    2 жыл бұрын

    At least 06 is fun if you don't mind the glitches or story

  • @christophemolhant2891

    @christophemolhant2891

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fnsmstudios5269 I'd imagine that he would look like a sumo wrestler.

  • @MiltonGagliardi
    @MiltonGagliardi2 жыл бұрын

    Well, Radiant Emerald has the Chaos Emeralds colors shining trough the map and it's set at night, so it makes sense to ask about rainbows

  • @BigRed3000

    @BigRed3000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rainbows doesn’t automatically equal rainbow road even if the level is kinda similar

  • @MiltonGagliardi

    @MiltonGagliardi

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know, that's my point

  • @BigRed3000

    @BigRed3000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MiltonGagliardi yeah, I was agreeing with you

  • @MiltonGagliardi

    @MiltonGagliardi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BigRed3000 Sorry, I didn't get it :v

  • @BigRed3000

    @BigRed3000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MiltonGagliardi it’s ok :)

  • @felixcnascimento
    @felixcnascimento3 ай бұрын

    One positive thing about Sonic R was the soundtracks, they're all so good!

  • @gameprose4293
    @gameprose42932 жыл бұрын

    My grandparents bought me a bundle that came with Sonic CD and Sonic R for the PC. I remember Sonic R being great and going out of my way to unlock absolutely everything. I think this is the first review I watched that not only acknowledged the existence of the PC port, but also explain the differences between the Saturn and PC versions. I thank you for the entertaining video.

  • @Megaspartan23
    @Megaspartan232 жыл бұрын

    It's fun watching the sonic fans defend the bad games. They won't even defend sonic boom rise of lyric.

  • @jayarby8494

    @jayarby8494

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rise of Lyric was more damaging to the series than 06

  • @somemadnessfan4763

    @somemadnessfan4763

    2 жыл бұрын

    dawg i can defend R all i want to but rise of lyric?! don't make laugh

  • @SoshiTheYoshi

    @SoshiTheYoshi

    2 жыл бұрын

    It honestly kind of is. Especially since they’re the same people who say Forces is a disgrace to the sonic series

  • @Skippyxlxlxl

    @Skippyxlxlxl

    2 жыл бұрын

    The music is the only best thing. But it's because I love dumb music like that.

  • @hepmem512

    @hepmem512

    2 жыл бұрын

    2015 me would defend sonic boom. I don't know why, but back then I thought the game was decent.

  • @GBlastMan
    @GBlastMan2 жыл бұрын

    Somehow even if its bad i have a soft spot for Sonic R, i dunno maybe its the weird 90's charm, the overly exaggerated cheesey soundtrack, the fact you have Cyber Knuckles and Tails Doll and Eggman playable, and the fact that even if its bad at both being a platformer and a kart racer but still being those things while they could just simply said "slap sonic into a car and get it done with it already" which they already did before this game with Sonic Drift but they instead went with "What if is a Sonic Kart Racer but Sonic runs on foot?" it makes it stand out even with all its flaws. Its like Sonic The Fighters/Championship yes is a virtua fighter sonic clone, yes its ridiculous and doesnt do anything different to stand out, but the fact that a Virtua Fighter like Sonic fighting game exists is on its own unique and i will always have a soft spot for that. Yes was a total failure, yes it had to pass like more than 20 years until we got a proper "Kart racer" game with Sonic that wasnt a total bust, yes Cyber Knuckles and Tails Doll are MIA since this game being playable, but still you gotta commend that from all the clone racers out there this one had charm and was at least kinda unique on its own, even being a total failure at the things it wanted to do, the fact that exists and didnt just said "scrap all of this, its not working stick to traditional kart racing" is an achivement on its own. Also we do have now the equivalent to Mario Kart 64 with Sonic Robo Blast Kart, while its insanely popular and doesnt have the right to be that good, and i sincerely recommend anybody downloading it and playing it with friends (trust me you will thank me later) i still think they could had added a on foot mode that still sticks to what SRBKart does but now combines the insanely good 3D platforming of SRB2 having the real Sonic R we should had have back in the day. Jon did some videos about Sonic R and how this game wasnt even a Sonic game to begin with, it was an F1 game that they couldn't make and then sega told them to turn it into a Sonic racer game, he still likes this game even with all its flaws and even helped with some stuff for the recent fan made HD "remake" fans did that adds Widescreen and even fixes the FOV and draw distance, even has better texture resolution and native support for modern OS's.

  • @bowserpog

    @bowserpog

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cyber knuckles????

  • @soulreaper1461

    @soulreaper1461

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cyber freaking Knuckles?????

  • @masterwolfgaming3436

    @masterwolfgaming3436

    Жыл бұрын

    We all have that game we like even though we know it’s bad. For me, it’s Shadow the Hedgehog. I loved that game as a kid, and even though nowadays I can truly see how *awful* it is, I will always have a soft spot from nostalgia for that game. XD

  • @trey9382
    @trey93822 жыл бұрын

    I actually love this game. I own it on saturn, ps2 and gamecube. I even wrote a letter to travelers tales to ask if they'd remake it.

  • @SudrianTales

    @SudrianTales

    2 жыл бұрын

    Travellers Tales when they get the console: *Inhuman PTSD riddled screams*

  • @guybrush1701
    @guybrush1701 Жыл бұрын

    How are the Mario Kart 64 characters NOT 3D models? I cannot tell that they look any different

  • @sandyred1140

    @sandyred1140

    Жыл бұрын

    Look at the edges.

  • @tepafray
    @tepafray2 жыл бұрын

    This game had one hell of a history. It started off a formula 1 racing game and was cobbled together at Sega's request into a Sonic Game by TT after Sonic Xtreme basically crashed and burned.

  • @kirby1225

    @kirby1225

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, so no wonder why it was bad, it's not easy to go from an f1 game to racing platformer

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario2 жыл бұрын

    If I were to take a guess, I'd say that this is the result of the canned Sonic game that was going to be 3D with a sphere for levels.

  • @jimmytheechidna

    @jimmytheechidna

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sonic extreme

  • @guffingtonreal

    @guffingtonreal

    2 жыл бұрын

    When Sega cancelled Sonic X-Treme, they were in need a game so they came to Travellers Tales, who previously created Sonic 3D Blast and asked them to make another Sonic game. They were working on an F1 title, so why not turn it into a Sonic racing game? There's a lot of videos on Sonic R and 3D Blast as well as plenty other TT games on Jon Burton's channels GameHut and Coding Secrets.

  • @matthewbraith0411

    @matthewbraith0411

    2 жыл бұрын

    BUTTTTTTTTTT PROTO that's just a theory.

  • @i_used_adblock_to_watch_this

    @i_used_adblock_to_watch_this

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your subscriber count must be so embarrassingly low that you deciding to hide it from the public. Glad I decided to block your channel from ever coming up in my subscription or recommendation feed

  • @AzafuseKingTora

    @AzafuseKingTora

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@i_used_adblock_to_watch_this dude literally who cares if he doesn't have tons of subs?

  • @mopedope7624
    @mopedope76242 жыл бұрын

    There’s no words for how much I love this series. It proves that you can still make fun of shitty games, and it can still be funny. The writing, the editing, use of humor are all great. In a more thoughtful, more mature presentation. This is what AVGN could have evolved into.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Жыл бұрын

    "Three buttons all make you jump" Welcome to _Segaaaa_

  • @RacgoonGamer967
    @RacgoonGamer9672 жыл бұрын

    Rerez, please review Sonic '06? I heard that game was the worst Sonic game ever...way worse than Sonic R. I dare you to review it.

  • @rerez

    @rerez

    2 жыл бұрын

    Okay.

  • @BlazeHT

    @BlazeHT

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez Now that's customer service!

  • @RacgoonGamer967

    @RacgoonGamer967

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez Maybe review Sonic and the Secret Rings, too. The controls in that game is limited that limits Sonic in a linear path.

  • @useless4692

    @useless4692

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez if you’ll do secret rings, then you should also play Sonic and the Black Knight

  • @DonVigaDeFierro

    @DonVigaDeFierro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rerez The absolute madmen.

  • @Iamaperson32
    @Iamaperson322 жыл бұрын

    We were all expecting a Sonic game in this series .

  • @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    2 жыл бұрын

    just not the one we were expecting

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    The one I really want them to cover is both the Sonic Boom titles, that and Sonic 06. Secret Rings and Black Knight should also be covered.

  • @Spewa-em8cm

    @Spewa-em8cm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 Secret Rings and Black Knight arent even bad.

  • @theminecraft2516

    @theminecraft2516

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Spewa-em8cm Black Knight is ok, Secret Rings is half mediocre and the last half has tedious levels

  • @tad7441

    @tad7441

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m still waiting for mega man x7

  • @GamergalDS
    @GamergalDS2 жыл бұрын

    I'll be damned though, the PC version with the sonic R improvement mod for physics and control tweaks as well as other quality of life improvements honestly makes it a really fun game, I finished the whole thing and had a blas

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    4 ай бұрын

    So for you, this was the real Sonic 3-D blast. .. I'll see myself out.

  • @thehorrorhound6575
    @thehorrorhound65752 жыл бұрын

    This seems like an idea that should be revisited and done correctly today. Forgo the platforming part, focus on the racing itself, focus on a more liner track design, there are plenty of past levels of sonic games over the generations to base tracks on, fans would love to see tracks based on a level of two from sonic adventures 1 or 2 mixed with a retro level like chemical plant from metal sonic. Take the idea of diddy Kong racing allowing you to have multiple types of vehicles. Speedy characters like sonic and shadow could obviously run or use a car (shadow would use a motorcycle) while characters like tails could run or use his airplane from the video games. Make the game cross platform on all 3 consoles. In this day and age this concept can be done well

  • @TheJohnmurphy516
    @TheJohnmurphy5162 жыл бұрын

    diddy kong racing is one of the best racers i ever played

  • @ricardohuff8774

    @ricardohuff8774

    2 жыл бұрын

    Crash team racing is great too you should try that, the controls is awesome.

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Nintendo could remake Diddy Kong Racing like what Beenox did for CTR

  • @ricardohuff8774

    @ricardohuff8774

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 agreed to me ctr and Diddy Kong racing are the best racing games I've played. They should remake Diddy Kong racing too many Mario karts these days, I grew tired of them.

  • @Acacius1992

    @Acacius1992

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean maybe diddy kong racing even inspire Ctr, from what i know, one of the Beta Maps was a replica of crescent Island

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Acacius1992 now that I think about it how would they make it without the Rare license to the characters

  • @daverapp
    @daverapp2 жыл бұрын

    "The levels are as bland and lifeless as boiled celery." *cajun food has joined the chat*

  • @BenLogterman

    @BenLogterman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still better than Race With Ryan's tracks.

  • @rodrithebean
    @rodrithebean3 ай бұрын

    I love how they didn't bash the soundtrack throughout the video, that part of the game is absolute perfection.

  • @ghostlyfox8263
    @ghostlyfox8263 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: they repurposed a cancelled racing game to make this game so that's why the game has tank controls

  • @dan_evilrobot
    @dan_evilrobot2 жыл бұрын

    🎶"Super Sonic Racing"🎶 I don't care what everybody said but the soundtrack that song alone is catchy as hell. but yeah, the rest of the game is just bad!

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who sang the songs in the soundtrack for Sonic R

  • @creeperloyd

    @creeperloyd

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everybody super sonic racing

  • @ssjup81

    @ssjup81

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like the soundtrack of Sonic R. I listen to it occasionally. It's a good standalone, imo. It doesn't suit a Sonic game, though.

  • @ssjup81

    @ssjup81

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 T.J. Davis, if I’m not mistaken.

  • @akpokemon

    @akpokemon

    2 жыл бұрын

    loved the game, and i had the faulty Windows disc WITHOUT the music!! :(

  • @hydro_storm4527
    @hydro_storm45272 жыл бұрын

    You are supposed to feel the sunshine, not destroy it!

  • @theomacer3094

    @theomacer3094

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's over Sonic. I have the curved ground, and you cannot turn

  • @zcramblo
    @zcramblo5 ай бұрын

    I wonder what happened to the original thumbnail

  • @SantosoMinakjinggo21-br6ye

    @SantosoMinakjinggo21-br6ye

    5 ай бұрын

    TELL ME

  • @garfieldlazylasagna1234

    @garfieldlazylasagna1234

    3 ай бұрын

    the new one looks so bland and boring its just sonic on a red background with the Just Bad Games logo to the side

  • @SantosoMinakjinggo21-br6ye

    @SantosoMinakjinggo21-br6ye

    3 ай бұрын

    @@garfieldlazylasagna1234 true, maybe they change it because KZread think with a thumbnail like that the video will contain mutilation, cause, you know, KZread...

  • @metl6929
    @metl69295 ай бұрын

    While I agree with a lot of things you said, I think you should've pointed out the power difference between the Saturn and the N64. Of *course* the draw distance is going to be higher for the N64 games, it was a generation ahead in terms of processing capability. While I don't really like to play it, I think it is a very impressive game for the Saturn. The maps are clunky and overdesigned to show off that yes, the Saturn *can* do 3D games. But having 5 3D models, in a complex 3D environment, all acting independently of one another? That's insane for the Saturn! I realize that just saying "the hardware was bad" doesn't excuse most of the game's problems, but it's also important to realize what context the game was released in.

  • @SoshiTheYoshi
    @SoshiTheYoshi2 жыл бұрын

    I bet you guys didn’t feel the sunshine

  • @Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6

    @Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6

    2 жыл бұрын

    The game was bad but songs were good.

  • @sandman1576

    @sandman1576

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6 no i meeted the tails dog from that

  • @Rifky809

    @Rifky809

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sandman1576 tails what now?

  • @Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6

    @Fizzyguy201Sonicguy6

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rifky809 I think they mean tails doll.

  • @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    @andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780

    2 жыл бұрын

    and it didnt brighten up there day but they did run away from this game

  • @Its_Primo
    @Its_Primo2 жыл бұрын

    “Sony was releasing hit after hi-“ I 100% agree that Air Combat was a huge hit.

  • @larryfoulke6952

    @larryfoulke6952

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, a fellow Ace Combat fan! "Bingo! Yahoo!"

  • @eannamcnamara9338

    @eannamcnamara9338

    Жыл бұрын

    both ace and R have great soundtracks

  • @nthgth

    @nthgth

    4 ай бұрын

    Is that where Ace Combat got its start? 04 is a tremendously fond memory. One of my favorite PS2 games, up there with GTA and Gran Turismo 4

  • @red-man7017
    @red-man70172 жыл бұрын

    ANOTHER FACT: Sonic R was in fact the very last time that sonic & pals were seen in their old classic forms. As every big sonic title since sonic adventure: the game that released the year after, saw characters in a new design (except sonic mania, as its tailored to the series history)

  • @MateusDrake
    @MateusDrake2 жыл бұрын

    This is one of my favorite games, because of nostalgia and childhood memories. I played it with my younger cousins a couple years back and we had lots of fun unlocking it all and letting them use Super Sonic. There are many flaws, but it's very fun to me. And I still listen to the songs on my Spotify playlist.

  • @dimitriwarchief301

    @dimitriwarchief301

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s nice man Keep on loving it

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker2 жыл бұрын

    Having *Tails Doll* in this game definitely reminds me of an urban legend.

  • @juliangandara9552

    @juliangandara9552

    2 жыл бұрын

    You mean the Tails Doll creppypasta?

  • @PutrickStir

    @PutrickStir

    2 жыл бұрын

    This game is where the urban legend originated from

  • @DarknetDude
    @DarknetDude2 жыл бұрын

    A racing game with bad controls is like a gun with a faulty trigger, technically useless unless you're lucky.

  • @koolaid33

    @koolaid33

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, Mariokart 64 is in the same realm; First played it on my Wii and, oh boy those controls made me gag, Toad's Turnpike was making me depressed by how many cars I hit.

  • @Acacius1992

    @Acacius1992

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@koolaid33 Tbh i never had any problems with it (probaly cause i played on a n64) But toads turnpike? Yeah this track was my nightmare

  • @CoalEater_Elli
    @CoalEater_Elli2 жыл бұрын

    The only things people remember about sonic r: 1: Cool soundtrack 2: Awful gameplay 3: Creepy Doll

  • @pyroonbusinesschannel118
    @pyroonbusinesschannel1185 ай бұрын

    I liked the original thumbnail more but kay

  • @starshiranui33
    @starshiranui332 жыл бұрын

    And two years later CTR was laughing at Sonic R, too.

  • @KonaKonaKaabisteru

    @KonaKonaKaabisteru

    2 жыл бұрын

    And it'd do an encore of that with CTR: Nitro-Fueled crushing Team Sonic Racing few decades later.

  • @sonicmario64

    @sonicmario64

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ouch. Crash bashing the only other animal character in modern games is not cool, especially when I don't find Crash to be that appealing IMO. :P

  • @baalfgames5318

    @baalfgames5318

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KonaKonaKaabisteru At least Sonic team racing put up a fight

  • @SebStudI0s

    @SebStudI0s

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KonaKonaKaabisteru ctr I great. Tho the remake has microtransactions and a grindy way to get things you want in the pit stop IF IT POPS UP THAT IS! But aside from THAT nitro fueled is 👌

  • @Frustratedartist2

    @Frustratedartist2

    2 жыл бұрын

    Video games do not laugh at each other

  • @fnsmstudios5269
    @fnsmstudios52692 жыл бұрын

    Sonic r: map 1 action to 3 buttons Balan Wonderworld: You can do that? Money ghost: seriously, why do these developers keep making these terrible f*cking games?! One answer: corporate greed

  • @Kids_Scissors
    @Kids_Scissors2 жыл бұрын

    When Sanicball controls better than an official Sonic racing game

  • @PurplestOfThemAll
    @PurplestOfThemAll7 ай бұрын

    the soundtrack: 🔥 the game: $h|t

  • @Nobutehuhh
    @Nobutehuhh2 жыл бұрын

    I honestly like how this game looks, especially on a CRT.

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    A what?

  • @Nobutehuhh

    @Nobutehuhh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 those old box shaped TVs, this comment makes me feel incredibly old lol.

  • @yourfatboy5359

    @yourfatboy5359

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nobutehuhh oh i had one of these when i was a child (also a vhs and one of those old phones that stay on the desk) but i never knew they were named crt

  • @Nobutehuhh

    @Nobutehuhh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yourfatboy5359 Yeah most people just call them fat TVs lol, which is fitting. I gotta pick up a Sony one before collectors jack the prices up even higher.

  • @yourfatboy5359

    @yourfatboy5359

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nobutehuhh i used to call them simply old tvs lol, wish you luck on the tv you are trying to buy

  • @OmarAlikaj
    @OmarAlikaj2 жыл бұрын

    No lie, this game was part of my childhood growing up as a PC gamer.

  • @supergoron1

    @supergoron1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Luckily the PC version of the game faired better then the Saturn version. It still has it's problems, but overall it's the better version of the game.

  • @RockstarMazy

    @RockstarMazy

    2 жыл бұрын

    me too ✋😪

  • @ILuvMoogles

    @ILuvMoogles

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, man. Theres a part of me that's kinda curious to try it out again as I actually have a lot of nastaulgia for it. But then theres another part that knows I'd just ruin said nastaulgia.

  • @BR-jw7pm

    @BR-jw7pm

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember getting all the emeralds then got mad at my little bro for accidentally overwriting my file. In his defense, the game makes it REALLY easy to overwrite your data with a blank slate (the game starts BEFORE you access a file select. Wtf?)

  • @MegaManNeo

    @MegaManNeo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here, it was lots of fun to play.

  • @ThymeCypher
    @ThymeCypher2 жыл бұрын

    This game looks amazing, a fine example of great idea terrible execution.

  • @NowOnAFM
    @NowOnAFM2 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised that you’ve gone through the whole review without even mentioning Sonic R’s music, which is its best feature in my opinion. I’ve never played the game, but for some reason the cheesy lyrics are so catchy.

  • @jakescartoons6045

    @jakescartoons6045

    2 жыл бұрын

    This entire video was just full of complaints. Of course he wasn't going to mention the music, because that would have made the game look good, and Rerez didn't want it to look good.

  • @ChrisStoneinator

    @ChrisStoneinator

    2 жыл бұрын

    All part of the mental gymnastics of dunking on what is a perfectly serviceable and charming racing game with great controls to master. It must be a meme or something. I don't get where all the hate comes from. People seem unable to divorce the quality of the game itself from the disappointing context of its release. Put it this way, there are much MUCH worse Sonic games than this lmao

  • @PBK1977

    @PBK1977

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisStoneinator No. I own a still-working Saturn and of all the disks I own, this one is never dusted off. This game is bloody awful. Its ONLY redeeming factor is the music, which I love.

  • @ChrisStoneinator

    @ChrisStoneinator

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PBK1977 Your problem is you're playing the Saturn version. Every subsequent release, including the contemporary PC port, is vastly improved.

  • @mariajimenafigueroa233

    @mariajimenafigueroa233

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@jakescartoons6045 1) "This entire video was just full of complaints" They literally told and show you the game's problems: Awful controls, only 5 tracks with confusing roads and dumb gimmicks, collectables that are impossible to get in 1st place thanks to the (as I mention before) awful controls, unbalanced character stats and boring side modes. 2) "Of course he wasen't going to mention the music because that would have made the game good, and Rerez didn't want it to look good" What do you expect from a video from a series called "Just *Bad* Games"? The series is about talking about what makes a specific game just BAD! Even if it has one or two reedaming qualites, it still has more flaws that makes the game FAR from good.

  • @chupacabra2071
    @chupacabra20712 жыл бұрын

    Say what you want about this game. You can never deny that all sonic games, regardless of quality, have a kickass soundtrack.

  • @juliangandara9552

    @juliangandara9552

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they spend more time working on the soundtracks than on the games themselves

  • @DonVigaDeFierro

    @DonVigaDeFierro

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. All of them.

  • @star22sally67

    @star22sally67

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boom and forces were a bit meh to me

  • @AzrialAlaria

    @AzrialAlaria

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sega songs in general. DAYTOOOOOOOOOOONAAAAAAAAA LET'S GO AWAY!!

  • @whiteroach3

    @whiteroach3

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sonic Chronicles.

  • @CoingamerFL
    @CoingamerFL2 жыл бұрын

    "The nintendo 64 sold more than the Sega Saturn! But thats something anyone can say about themselves." -Scott The Woz, 2020

  • @MrBluEDicE
    @MrBluEDicE2 жыл бұрын

    Analogue controls weren't really important to MK64 as most of the time during cornering you're just waggling to get a speed boost.

  • @jaylenbutler899
    @jaylenbutler899 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know how you guys edit so good!

  • @Punkski
    @Punkski2 жыл бұрын

    Gotta talk about Life of Black Tiger, Aleckine's Gun, Bubsy 3d, Contra Rogue Corps, Batman Forever (Genesis or SNES), Fantasia, MK Mythologies Sub Zero, and Mega Man X7.

  • @chesspunk489

    @chesspunk489

    2 жыл бұрын

    megaman x7 isn't as bad as everyone says it is in my opinion.

  • @bowser5678
    @bowser56782 жыл бұрын

    Oh boy, now that you mentioned Traveller’s Tale Games, is Rascal going to pop up in this series somewhere?

  • @zeldagameryt4018

    @zeldagameryt4018

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking either Rascal or Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex, or is Crash: TWoC even bad

  • @RobertPlays

    @RobertPlays

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zeldagameryt4018 Wrath of Cortex is a very mixed bag, I'd say.

  • @BirchMonkey857
    @BirchMonkey857 Жыл бұрын

    I have a hunch that Sonic R was originally going to be Sonic Adventure. Then they realised that wasn't gonna work on the Saturn, thus why there was a large gap between the apparent foreshadowing of SA's story in S3&K and its actual release.

  • @fanfaretloudest
    @fanfaretloudest Жыл бұрын

    The game: REVERSE Player: I can't!!!

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