3:33 cute reference to tails being scared of lightning

@knuckt.k.9456

3 жыл бұрын

Really cute.

Am I the only one who finds it funny that from Hydrocity to mirage to oil to lava they basically went back and forth between angel island and west side island

I love how in Press Garden Zone act 2 tails just looks at the camera as if to go like: "Uh oh." lmao.

The Stardust Speedway one caught me so off guard, Sonic CD is one of my fave games

@TVGN20000

Жыл бұрын

Same here

Following these transitions' logic, most of the game takes place in West Island. Pretty cool

@halfmoon4163

3 жыл бұрын

I did the math, and you're not far off! Green Hill - South Island Chemical Plant - Westside Island (via teleportation) Studiopolis Zone - Westside Island (connected by a pipeline) Flying Battery - seems to fly above Westside Island this time Press Garden - *probably* Westside Island? Stardust Speedway - Little Planet (via teleportation) Hydro City - Angel Island (via teleportation) Mirage Saloon - Angel Island (with some weird implications I'll explain later) Oil Ocean - Westside Island Lava Reef - back to Angel Island Metallic Madness - Little Planet Titanic Monarch - Little Planet Press Garden is the only one I'm unsure of. I'm assuming it's still Westside, because I can't imagine Flying Battery traveled over an entire ocean during Acts 1 and 2 of that zone. Mirage Saloon's transition to Oil Ocean is interesting. It seems to imply that, because a gun cannon probably can't send you halfway around the planet, Mirage Saloon is near the coast of Angel Island, and Oil Ocean is not that far from there. This makes me wonder if Westside and Angel Island are closer than we thought. (Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.)

@twiilit_

3 жыл бұрын

@@halfmoon4163 i think it’d be more fair for mirage saloon to be in westside island. in mania mode we know that sonic and friends arrived via the tornado, so them flying with the tornado from hydrocity isn’t out of the question. also it’s based off the unused desert dazzle zone from sonic 2, so that also helps.

@amogusinsuster9560

2 жыл бұрын

@@halfmoon4163 I’m pretty sure they got into hydrocity zone because they fell off little planet and landed there

@truetimewatcher

2 жыл бұрын

@@amogusinsuster9560 But we literally see the transition from Stardust Speedway is one via Ruby, rather than falling...

@amogusinsuster9560

2 жыл бұрын

@@truetimewatcher me stupid, any way the ruby is a lazy cop out for transitions

My Logic is that after, Whoever is being played, gets Teleported from Green Hill to Chemical Plant, they Get to Studiopolis Via Pipe. So, Studiopolis is located on West Side Island, Next to Chemical Plant and, probably, Casino Night, (since Studiopolis and Casino Night share some features.) Now, we Could say Press Garden is Also Located on West Side Island, which would have made more sense, Since Flying Battery probably didn't Cover that Much Ground before the Player left, it being a Blimp and All. So, after teleporting From Press Garden to Stardust Speedway to Hydrocity, we come to probably one of the most difficult Transitions in the Game, Hydrocity to Mirage Saloon. So, I think that after a Hole was busted in Hydrocity, they found the Tornado and Flew off Toward West Side Island Because they Picked up Readings of Activity in Mirage Saloon, then after that They Got Shot to Oil Ocean Zone. Now, Since Oil Ocean and Lava Reef are on separate Land Masses, I Believe that since as in the Opening Cutscene we can see Angel Island Fell back to Earth / Mobius, We can Presume Angel Island Collided with West Side Island, causing Sandopolis / Lava Reef and Mirage Saloon / Oil Ocean to Merge. So when the Submarine takes off, it Enters Angel Island and tumbles down into Lava Reef Zone. And then When Transitioning to Lava Reef to Metallic Madness, Angel Island Gradually Floats back up next to Little / Miracle Planet. And Titanic Monarch is Located on Little / Miracle Planet. There, I summed up Sonic Mania Plus so you didn't Have Too! P.S. to Explain why Angel Island wasn't Floating in the Intro was because of the Detachment and Disorder caused by the Phantom Ruby being removed by the Hard Boiled Heavies. So, Toot Toot Sonic Warriors!

@Bobb11881

2 жыл бұрын

Don't put that much thought into it. SEGA just wanted to have the game mainly comprised of old levels for nostalgia-bait reasons, either not remembering or not caring that all these zones are nowhere near each other, and the Mania team had to come up with ways for Sonic to get to all these areas because they _did_ remember. They did what they could, but what we're left with is a game where Sonic is randomly teleported from place to place while sometimes going to places with no real reason. Why does he go to West Side Island after Hydrocity only to go _back_ to Angel Island after Oil Ocean? There's no reason, they just wanted those zones in the game. In the Genesis games (especially 3K), Sonic had reasons to go where he went. Sure, the first few zones in 3K just had him being thrown from place to place, but after Marble Garden he deliberately goes to Carnival Night and then to Ice Cap so that he can get to Launch Base, which is where he wants to go. (Or, if you're going with the original order, he takes a small detour to Flying Battery between CN and IC because it's one of Eggman's ships and it couldn't hurt to bring it down.) Then after taking down the Death Egg again, he lands in Mushroom Hill with the goal of getting to where the Death Egg crashed to take it out for good. To get there, he takes a detour to Flying Battery (or not) then has to go through Sandopolis, and then he accidentally falls into a hole which takes him to Lava Reef, which is _under_ the Death Egg, so he has to climb back up. Before he can get to it, though, Eggman launches it with the Master Emerald, so Sonic goes to Sky Sanctuary to get to it before it's in orbit, which he does. In Mania, though, he just kind of goes places randomly and only happens upon the places he needs to be sometimes.

@TheDemoman873

2 жыл бұрын

From what I know lava reef to metallic madness is because at the top of lava reef is a rocket

@ninjafrog6966

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bobb11881 funny you should mention the transition between carnival night and icecap as the transition itself doesn’t make sense because the original zone layout had you go to flying battery after carnival night and then to icecap

@Bobb11881

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninjafrog6966 That doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

@MalevolentBackshotter

Жыл бұрын

Angel island wouldn't float if the master emerald is not there, but the hard boiled heavies stole the phantom ruby not master emerald.

1:15 Maybe they added it later, but I recall the Sonic 2 Master System / Game Gear "entering act" sound effect playing when they grab the hang-gliders.

phantom ruby is so scary!

Ok, let's recap. Studiopolis seems to be on West Side Island because a tube from Chemical Plant takes you there. Then you go to Flying Battery and land in Press Garden with no indication of where Press Garden actually is, since Flying Battery could have taken you anywhere. Later on, you get to Mirage Saloon from Hydrocity, which implies that Mirage Saloon is on Angel Island. Then you get shot from Mirage Saloon (which, again, is on ANGEL ISLAND) all the way to Oil Ocean (which is on WEST SIDE ISLAND). Then you take a submarine from Oil Ocean all the way _back_ to Angel Island and end up in Lava Reef. At the end of Lava Reef, Little Planet is just... floating there. For some reason. Why is it there? The same reason you went from Angel Island to West Side Island and then back to Angel Island: SEGA wanted to fill the game with nostalgia-bait levels and Whitehead's team was left with the nigh-impossible task of coming up with reasons that Sonic is visiting these locations that are canonically nowhere near each other.

@BLENDEDBEANZ

2 жыл бұрын

It is funny how you travel on a submarine and fall into lava reef when not only are they on different islands, but angel island should be floating at that time, meaning unless this is just some oversight maybe Eggman built a new Oil Ocean on angel island?

@thevalkyriemercenary9463

2 жыл бұрын

Mirage saloon is actually located on west side island since after hydrocity zone Sonic & Co ride the tornado to said island

@berkeleycreager3601

Жыл бұрын

@@thevalkyriemercenary9463 but it isn't shown like that, they look like they just walk there

@id-f8679

Жыл бұрын

@@berkeleycreager3601 I thought that they went back to Angel Island forest, took back the Tornado which they left at the start of the game and went to Mirage Saloon which is on Westside Island.

@TheCat626

10 ай бұрын

En sonic 3 lava reef era la parte volcanica del centro de la tierra creo y en sonic mania es un volcan

I’m kind of surprised by the Sonic OVA references

@yassinashraf1235

Жыл бұрын

What references

@jureigeeksoutoccasionally

Жыл бұрын

@@yassinashraf1235 Tails being scared of lightning

First! But um what happened to sonic

How did Oil Ocean Zone get on Angel Island?

@DrMonkey1224

3 жыл бұрын

Right? its really weird Unless, it was always there

@gegor41311

3 жыл бұрын

They teleported from Angel Island with the phantom Ruby dude.

@Diamonddeath

3 жыл бұрын

No, Oil Ocean is on West Side Island.

@Diamonddeath

3 жыл бұрын

The transition didn’t show any teleportation, though.

@gegor41311

3 жыл бұрын

@@Diamonddeath ... Dude. Right at the start. When they are transported to green hill.