2:06 Needlemouse on his dementia arc

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

BRO IM SORRY I DIDNT MEAN TO HAVE THAT IN THE VIDEO

I wish the cyberspace levels were longer And also fck the pause when you hit an enemy

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

True

@mattiaimperio3528

14 күн бұрын

If you're playing on pc, i suggest to you the tracker's physic mod (i don't know if i write it right) that upgrade the physic and remove the homing attack delay

Fun fact: you can make tight turns in cyberspace. With the slide? Definitely, but that's not necessarily the only solution... You just need the analog stick, since turning it past 90 degrees actually makes the turning much tighter. Very strange, but it works like a charm 👌

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

I did. Very cool

@SwiftAsTheWind

14 күн бұрын

You don't really need to turn anyway; pointing the analog stick in any direction and boosting or spin dashing makes Sonic immediately dart directly in that exact direction without any loss in speed regardless of the direction in which he was moving prior.

@Ivan210bluboi

13 күн бұрын

If you Re-press the boost button Sonic instantly goes in the direction you point the stick at so that's not really needed.

@Ivan210bluboi

13 күн бұрын

​@@SwiftAsTheWind Oh I didn't see you wrote the same thing 💀

@SwiftAsTheWind

13 күн бұрын

@@Ivan210bluboi Great minds think alike.

The music is peak, I will not hear otherwise

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

REAL

@naitsabes6222

14 күн бұрын

Cyberspace makes forces soundtrack look like a masterpiece lol

@SpeedstersUnited

14 күн бұрын

@@naitsabes6222 It's okay to be wrong sometimes xx

@naitsabes6222

14 күн бұрын

@@SpeedstersUnited cyberspace music is all of the problems of some of the colors ultimate remixes ,that awful planet wisp remix comes to mind , all of cyberspace just blends in they have the same buzzsaw dubstep , but I do like a couple of them like 3-1, and the arrow of time I think that’s it called

@mchan6215

14 күн бұрын

fr, the cyberspace ost is so peak, electronic music in sonic just fits and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. I also think the forces ost is quite underappreciated.

People say its unintended? Sega confirmed this to be an official move

@heiseianimates787

13 күн бұрын

it is unintended. sega found it about it after release and decided to call it a feature

The Cyberspace stages definitely became more fun as Frontiers was updated. Especially once the spindash and keeping momentum after jumping were implemented in update 2. And some of the Cyberspace tracks are bops. 4-3 Rumble Rave is a standout for me.

Aww no typo this time 😢

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

BRO

@Natezilla_2

14 күн бұрын

Damn 😔

@JessicaSmith-yj6fu

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use WHATS WITH THE DIFFERENT INTRO?

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

@@JessicaSmith-yj6funot different. I do edits for intros often times

I've always found it fun to speedrun the cyberspace stages with all the tech you can do. Seriously, the jump stomp is actually so cool, it's tech that I would love to see in the next sonic game (well, after shadow generations lol).

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

I agree!

this video made me wanna play frontiers

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

DO IT ITS A PEAK GAME

@RIOTZss

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use I forgot to add again lol it's downloading

@RIOTZss

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use I finished it

Side note while I watch: 4-9 is apparently based on Lethal Highway from Shadow the Hedgehog

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

That’s not what I heard

@UltraSTH

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use yeah, it’s only speculation but there are pretty similar elements

The base game ones were ok. BUT THE FINAL HORIZON ONES WERE PEAK!!!

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

TRUE

Yea honestly its not that bad i like tbh

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Exactly

The Cyberspace levels are a pretty fun gimmick to say the least, but I have to say the music for them fucking slap hard, Tomoya Ohtani fucking cooked this time around. But do you know cooked the most? You did. cooking this delicious video.

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Ahhh thanks man! Glad you liked it!

@SpeedstersUnited

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use you good my guy 🗣🔥

Idfc im here is a fuckin peak music. Its on top with undefeatable

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

TRUE

I personally like the cyber space levels. Sure I understand the problems that people have with it but I didn't mind it

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Exactly

Finally, someone who finds it fun. I've only played a bit of it but it's fun to .e

honestly the red rings and the s rank time on hard mode carried it for me idk it's lowkey fun to do it fr!!

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

TRUE

Finally someone who actually agrees that cyberspace is good. Yes the controls suck, but they aren't that bad. Yes it is mostly reused content and level design, but at least that means the level design is good by default since the levels they nicked were all bangers originally. We also got to see what an adventure style level would play like as a boost stage (which worked surprisingly well) as ofc the generations ones were specifically made from scratch to accommodate the boost mechanic and so didn't really show that. Cyberspace is over hated. Though this is the sonic fan base so I'm not surprised. It's kinda what they're known for.

I will commit toaster bath if I see any UTTP bots somehow end up here

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

well....

@sukumadehk

14 күн бұрын

My content is better 😂

@SonicTheBlueBlur15

14 күн бұрын

@@sukumadehkyou have no content 💀

@sukumadehk

14 күн бұрын

@@SonicTheBlueBlur15 I was joking tho😂

@SonicTheBlueBlur15

14 күн бұрын

@@sukumadehk oh lol

I somewhat liked them but I would have preferred a little better control, but good video

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Yea fair point

The thumbnail its beautiful

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

You already know

@gapfmmadeira8339

13 күн бұрын

​@@MrNeedleM0use yep, @HamIsntCool is super talented

Now that I’m finished with the video, I just want to say that speedrunning these new levels is the most fun I’ve ever had with this game, the Homing Dash makes me feel like I activated a Super Sonic cheat Oh also you can unlock the Power Boost for Cyberspace, I don’t think you mentioned that

2:06 fun fact, we've only seen 4 levels, all from past games

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

True

i agree, cyberspace did start out trash, but all the improvements made for an actually really enjoyable experience. sidenote - (i love how u say ciao at the end of every video, it reminds me of chao)

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

That’s the point!

Great video bro

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Thank you!

Even after the updates, I still saw many people really disliking the Cyber Space stages, but this video completely reflects how I feel about the levels! I really do think Sonic Team managed to turn them around with the changes they made and I enjoy them so much now! Thank you so much for this great video 👍

They took the two best cyber stages and made them better. (Rumble rave and wishes in the wind) and both of those stages have my favorite cyberspace tracks. (Remix wise)

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

I agree. 4-H is so FIRE

crazy

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

NUH UH

@MOVIEMATYT

14 күн бұрын

Mod the game with open zone controls it’s peak

The one thing that I didn’t like about Cyberspace is that some of them you can beat in like 50 seconds. The last thing I didn’t like about it was that when you hit an enemy it makes you lose a little bit of time.

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

That’s true but at the same time they make for cool obstacles

@knowingjordankid

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use Facts

7:00 Rise of Lyric

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Yea well that’s not a mainline game

5:38 On Extreme difficulty, S ranks are much harder to obtain on all levels, including the new levels added in update 3. The only exception is 1-2, which remains at 55 seconds for the S rank. (The developers knew very well that this S rank was hard enough as it was)

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

That’s true and I love it a lot

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO WOO YEAH BABY BROS COOKING LIKE HOW SEGA WAS COOKING WITH PRESS FACTORY SONG YEAH

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Press factory goes hard tho

2:06 - 2:13 was that intentional?

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Yes

@kingknight387

14 күн бұрын

I was wondering the same thing

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

@@kingknight387 ah actually no it wasn't lmfao.

4:12 Have to disagree here, games like Gens, Unleashed and even Colors did NOT have awful controls. They controlled the way they did because that’s what worked with the level design they were going with, which was comprised of multiple linear hallway boost sections with exceptions for other paths and drifting. They were purposefully designed like that and the controls did exactly what they were supposed to do. If they were controls for an open world landscape then sure it would be bad but those games were never intended for that so they control well. They encapsulate the speed, momentum, boost and homing attack as intended. The same cannot be said for Cyber Space, which takes the level design from these games, while shortening and losing what made them well designed in the first place, with Sonic not being able to boost through enemies in sections designed for this, having a slow heavy homing attack that defeats the point of it in its original levels since it is supposed to be used to help lose time not gain; and Sonic can’t turn well at all in a linear OR open space in these levels when boosting, as opposed to how he could drift well in those games for large curves and could move to the left or right easily like a car while maintaining the speed of moving forward. He also controls much worse in the air in Cyber Space than in those boost games which is surprising considering aside from the air boost they didn’t control too well in it either so the bar for that wasn’t high for that to begin with. So the boost games with the exception of Forces do not control bad, it’s the opposite as they control near perfectly for what they need to do. This is unlike Cyberspace, which attempts to recreate this but instead we ended up with a nerfed, clunky version of the same controls from the open world, which actually controlled well, again unlike Cyberspace. Cyberspace despite this fails on a lot of what it tries to do and would ironically have worked better if it just controlled the same as the open world. The only downside is that maybe that homing attack boost trick that flings Sonic forward might not be efficient that way, and even that is a maybe. Ironically Sonic Forced actually controlled well, if not the best (for a boost game) when it came to air boosting and physics, so it’s strange that they didn’t take from that but I guess since it’s pretty obvious that Cyberspace is a failed attempt to recreate the controls from Sonic Gens/Unleashed that explains a lot To clarify I’m not disagreeing with the video and I think some of this is addressed with the updates and spin dash, as well as the homing dash (which wasn’t intentional but still worth mentioning) but I am disagreeing with the idea that the boost games all control badly and also that Cyberspace doesn’t but I don’t think people really disagree with the latter

This just show that the issue with forces level design was bad not just because it was short but because it was soulless and had nothing and was too simple and was just boost too win meanwhile some cyber space levels atleast tried to add elements from some games too make it less shit despite how short they were also fuck the fact air boost is limited in forces your practically punished for doing it for no reason 💀💀

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Thank you

A second postive take on cyberspace huh nice

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Yessir

2:13 I think the city level is an original zone, cyber space is based on Sonic's memories so the highway level is probably just memories of all the highway levels Sonic has been to. I guess he doesn't remember them well?? It also has its own name "Eternal Highway".

Arrow Of Time

Sonic Frontiers is honestly the best top 10 Sonic games for my opinion as the developers really went all out developing this game 😁

Cyberspace is way more fun than open world if you ask me

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Ok well that’s a bit too far

This is a great video I agree with everything you've said.

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Thank you!

If you play it with cyber space ish and not play it like if you where playing gens and unleashed its more fun, just learn the physics to speedrunning to be fun

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Exactly

I mean there ok. Nothing to right home about.

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

I like it

I didn't notice Sonic was slower at all in cyberspace, nor did I care since playing though the levels was fun. What I was upset over is we were seeing a glorious return to older sonic boost games with classic visuals. I understand the monumental task it would've been to give each stage it's own set of unique visuals but I genuinely would've preferred if they made some unique stuff and reused it for the cyberspace levels instead of reusing green hill, chemical plant, and sky sanctuary again.

I've never played Frontiers so I'm gonna have to trust you on this

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

You should it’s a good game!

Do you have a new artist or something because the new thumbnails are fire 🔥 🔥🔥

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Yes I do

*opens video* IM HERE-

The cyberspace levels all of the problems with recent sega mindset on sonic , this was super unneeded you can tell they only added becuase they weren’t confident in their open zones you know the main appeal of the game 💀 to try new things and move forward , nostalgia bait up the ass a well , bruh if you’re gonna reuse levels use everything from sonic past but nope only generations assets 😂 , also it’s sonic memories but there’s just a random new city level , it’s funny that kishimoto did not take any level design from any of the games he worked on

@sukumadehk

14 күн бұрын

Even some of the levels are original so where did they come from

@naitsabes6222

14 күн бұрын

@@sukumadehk yeah I remember people defending it “it’s sonic memories” like bruh what Sonic game did sonic goes to this specific city 😂

@kao7143

13 күн бұрын

nah, cyberspace was intentionally added to be complimentary with the open zone

Did he make a video because of my comment? 🤭

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

No...?

@RameNoodls

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0useliar liar pants on fire /j

@KrheanosIsland

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use OK 🥺

7:00 Sonic Mania: 😢

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

I obviously mean 3D games only

@KrheanosIsland

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use The special stages in Sonic Mania: 😢 (jkjk)

2:39 Never do that again thank you

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Nah bro Colors is mid I have to make fun of it at least once per video you already know

I think they should try to re use Colors level design. I think it fits with Frontiers physics

I know right people needs to calm down and enjoy the game this cyberspace is actually fun, even if they used the iconic zones like green hill zone

It's good because of the re used level design. I was gonna say something more but I forgot

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Fair

I think the cyberspace levels are cool to play in my opinion

2:06 Guys, something tells me that we only saw four level environments, all from past games.

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Idk man. Maybe it’s 5?

@AccelerateHedge

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use True, the cityscape at night could reasonably count as Speed Highway.

Just goes to show how mechanics and exploits can greatly enhance an experience. Cyberspace and Final Horizon just feels like it was the right direction for stage design. We need more mechanics and deph to beating levels beyond boosting and jumping. I feel shadow gens from what's been seen is going the wrong direction for level design so far. Also the chemical plant Symphogear sounding song is one of my favorite edm tracks in frontiers.

Also update's 1 extreme mode make the time limite more difficult, giving you a reason to try to use your tools to make the best time

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

True

great video! while im not a fan of the reused environments, you might be surprised to know i actually quite like the reused level design, well for this game only anyway there are some levels such as 1-7 and 2-4 where the layout can be noticed by any hardcore fan, but they make it so it almost feels original as well? there's additional new elements to the design here and there such as the section in 1-7 before sonic goes down that big loop that's meant to mimic the building he runs down in city escape, i think they did a decent job of making the design familiar and unfamiliar at the same time and so for that reason i dont believe they REUSED, moreso remade with alterations to fit this sonic specifically about the spindash and homing dash, i dont typically use them that much, maybe in final horizon stages but in the base game you wont catch me using them that much, i just prefer to not skip over things, that is unless im going for a new record in cyberspace challenge/arcade mode but in base game unless im on new game+ yeahhh i dont use spindash usually

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Thank you and yea I pretty much agree with everything said here lol

Based add typo next time tho

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

what

@RameNoodls

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use add typo too title

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

@@RameNoodls No

@RameNoodls

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use depression has been inserted into my skull due too your refusal of this amazing critical advice that I have informed you the receiver with

Tbh. I really like 3d levels. But sonic's physics just don't feel like there ment for the 2d levels. The music is fire tho. I just wish they made levels ment for the cyberspace physics.

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

The 2D levels feel a lot better with spindash imo

2:31 Jsr sound effects!!!!😀😀😀

Cyberspace is the best part of the game imo. It's the only part of the game that actually is a Sonic game where you do the thing that Sonic is literally based on, going from A to B in the fastest way possible making up shortcuts along the way. Sure, the controls are a little stiff, but once you learn all the tech to go through these stages faster, and unlock the right things, most of the problems go away, and you get used to it. Cyberspace makes a kinda basic Open World game where you do a bunch of objectives until a story mission is available, into one of my favourite 3D Sonic games where you are constantly trying to figure out how to get faster times. I know some people don't care for those numbers, but I love trying to figure out all the skips, it makes me fell smaster smh.

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

Well...I wouldn't go THAT far

@Ivan210bluboi

13 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use When I say one of i mean like... 6th 7th or 8th place in my favourite Sonic games...

The JSR sfx took me out.

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Nah bro its peak

@theblueblur9168

14 күн бұрын

I beat the original yesterday lol.

I find the final horizon's cyberapace level design really pointless, it has a tons of path and you need to fly in the air and shit while you have the open zone for it. I really prefer the original cyberspace stages and they are really fun to speedrun

They're pretty fun, but not perfect by any means. The idea of Cyber Space is genius, though; traditional Sonic levels along with the Open Zone? Sign me up, brother! However, the physics should have been better, and I know us as fans have beaten this into ground, but they need to stop reusing locations from previous games. Also, reusing level design from past games is not something they should be doing, but I'll let it slide because I'm nice...

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Fair fair.

@legolloyd2009

14 күн бұрын

I think the reused levels allow you to do new skips and stuff because of the "bad" physics in this game

sonic is for nerds

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

Yk what? Fair point

English or spanish ?

@MrNeedleM0use

14 күн бұрын

I have the golden dog. Cant do anything to me

@Bigger-smoke45

14 күн бұрын

@@MrNeedleM0use whoever moves first likes sonic colours

So much cope in this video, its off the charts..

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

No cyberspace is just fun

no views in one minute. bro fell off

@user-pr7ep8eg8o

13 күн бұрын

Bro tf?

@chair_dibscrib6975

13 күн бұрын

Why do people keep liking these comments

@chinorobua9596

13 күн бұрын

@@chair_dibscrib6975 its just a joke. relax

@Crash_Bash89

10 күн бұрын

Hahhahhahahhahahhjahhhahhjahahhahahhahhha another funny, excellent, and original comment I’ll give that one a like

@user-pr7ep8eg8o

10 күн бұрын

@@chinorobua9596 dam boi u doing good! Hope u have a long life ahead!

MOD CRUSH HIS SKULL THANK YOU

@MrNeedleM0use

13 күн бұрын

This is like the fifth time you’ve commented this 💀💀