Great video! Good to put this info out there for others. I've had great luck so far at the track with just basic mods. These cars are really great right out of the factory though. Hemifever tune will pick up about 20-25rwhp. Best mod for these cars is drag radials for the rear tires and a tune. Those two things right there will help you get into the high 11's in good air.

Is your couch floating? LOL

@BoostedMotorsports

6 жыл бұрын

lmao!

@davids.5389

6 жыл бұрын

I see you doing some research checking out other dodge videos! I'm a subscriber of yours and just wanted to give you a shout out! Keep it up. And yes, the couch is floating lol

@rominagarcia5486

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@michaelalbert6421

5 жыл бұрын

OMG!

@vicmcenteno

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha I think it is 😂

another great video. I am looking for something fairly basic to add some power but it seems like everything cost too much with very little gain. looks like I will stay stock for a while. Thanks again..👍

Cam, headers, injectors and _good_ tune make the 5.7 scream. She picks up between 60-70hp. Add porting, remove cats, resonators and get as close to straight pipes as you can, and forget it! Gaining over 100 ponies.

@Joe-dg4jh

5 жыл бұрын

Heinrich Von Kekelnazi That’s cap cam itself can gain u 70-80

@Happydaz1933

4 жыл бұрын

Joseph Ventura Maybe 40-45 GHP. THATS ABOUT IT, long tubes gains you zilch. Go with nitros, that will give you those kinds of gains.

@claytonhaske

4 жыл бұрын

What size injectors?

@PeterMeixllovesdogs

4 жыл бұрын

what cam are you guys talking about? be specific and show me a dyno video please

@steverussell6642

4 жыл бұрын

So why not just put in a supercharge?

That certainly answers some of my questions.Explains it when asked Hennessy if they do modifications on the 392.

B Mason you do make some very good valid points, but, I have a 2016 Shaker R/T (5.7), modified by HHP. Included is a CompCam 270, HHP/BES Racing stage 3 CNC ported aluminum heads, Manley heavy duty push rods, 180 temp thermostat, JBA long tube headers, JBA high flow catted mid pipes into a Borla cat back exhaust system. Custom dyno tuned with the result being 444 RWHP and 428 Ft. Lbs. RWT. Also changed to a LSD rear with 3.69 gears. Other mods have also been done . Yes it was expensive but the dramatic increase in performance is worth every penny to me.

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

We have recently tuned a car with similar mods, Very fun car!

Very good information 👍🏻 thanks for making another great video

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

charlie ryan thank you for watching!

@bradleylake6632

7 жыл бұрын

B Mason I love my Charger scat pack but this car is so expensive to mod with little to show for it

great information! i just purchased a 2015 scat pack and literally love the power it makes stock all i have planned to do is the hellcat airbox mod with a good set of slicks for the track

Sir, I have an 18' T/A "392" auto. Been in touch with Jay Greene. He told me that with his tune and (PCU) swap with a Fastman ported Throttle Body. I could expect a 25-30 HP gain @ crank? Will I have normal non-open throttle operation's. I was told that the stock exhaust manifolds are made like a short to mid length headers? Please reply...

Awesome. You confirmed my suspicions when I was looking for increases on my ‘05 5.7.

Totally agree with you. Been working on my 2006 Charger 5.7 since brand new and figured out what works and whats bs. First mod- 22"x10 wheels, looked cool, weighed down and changed steering feel negatively... Changed to 2013 Challenger wheels. Eibach adjustable coilovers/camber-adj/sways...great add. Many coldair intakes, back to factory. 2013 performance heads with pistons (after dropping a couple valve seats)...great add too. Predator tuner (mostly for parameter controls, trans, revlim, shift points/firm,etc) wish i could flip a switch to go from Pred-aggress tune to factory sets quickly tho. Went thru a few exhaust setups (straight pipes - toooo fn loud) found that cats on, H pipe, suitcase out, flowmasters on gives a great low note at idle but once woken up it screams within reasonable levels. Here cops notice rips from loud exhausts and they chase you/ticket you, im no longer young, dumb and certainly not rich so driving habits inevitably changed for the better. Sorry for the long novel, looking forward to more of your uploads. ✓

I bought my Jeep with a cold air intake preinstalled. I don't notice any preformance gains but it takes up less space under the hood for after market junction boxes for auxiliary wiring for lights and stuff.

I have a 2014 Durango RT with a 5.7, & although it is easily the best sounding exhaust I have ever heard on a stock SUV, I have heard that a cat back exhaust is an efficient upgrade. I also saw many negative comments on the MSD as far as reliability is concerned, but at least I don't always have to deal with the poor throttle response, as mine has a switch (ECO) on the dash that disables the MSD. Since I do a lot of long trips, I would like to see an increase in fuel economy. I'm currently getting 22 - 23 MPG.

Good stuff, I have a 2015 R/T premium with the A8. You are pretty much right on based on my modding experience. I went with long tubes and no cats. The sound is great, but the gains were similar to aftermarket or SRT shorties and now I have to deal with CELs for no cats and rear O2 sensors. I would only recommend them if planning on cam, boost, or spray. The only nice gains on my 5.7 setup that you didn't mention was the exhaust, specifically from cats back. The stock suitcase mid muffler set up has to go on the 5.7 RT (~20hp gain). From the cats forward, there really wasn't much to gain. I also changed out my 2.62 gears for a scat pack 3.09 LSD and that made a HUGE difference. 2 tenths easy in the 1/4 if you can get it to hook up and drastically changes the cornering ability/launch. My stock 5.7 was a mid/high 13s car stock, 325hp/340tq on a dyno jet. It's putting down 370hp/400tq with a mopar CAI, exhaust, tune, and gears and now runs a 13 flat on street tires. As you said, it's a 12.5-12.9 car with a few mods, a tune, and a tire for the strip. Super fun car, I still get 23mpg on the highway with no MDS. Mine also has the premium option package with all the goodies. Also came with that factory white leather, a factory option only available in the RT trim package. Take care and keep making great videos sir!

@pkranz937

6 жыл бұрын

zachbiff the 2011+ cars do not have "suitcase" mufflers. They're separate. Go back and get a refund, you got screwed.

Enjoy your videos keep up the good work!

I feel like most of this is aimed at bigger hemis. 5.7s gain a lot from very little from what I've experienced. Especially when it comes to a daily.

Good job man, very thorough. ..new sub for sure

I like your videos man good work.

Eagle Apache is correct. My inside contacts confirmed the 6.4 used a 5.7 intake due to 2 reasons - more low to mid torque - and wait for it..... Cost savings.

Good vid man quick question what's your thoughts on an idea I have I own a 05 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 4dr 4x4 going on 200,000 miles and I was thinking about rebuilding it down the road and making it a 6.1 or 6.4 what's your thoughts thanks

B Mason- Question for your brain: Can you let me know what would be needed to put a 6.4 long block into 09 Challenger RT 5.7(pre MDS?) I did my oil change and found a head of a bolt (10mm- no idea where it came from.) From what I have read, there isn't much to do to get this conversion to work. Thanks in advance for the knowledge you have provided. -Jim

So I have a question for you: where can i find the rocker arm set (who makes them) and also, I’ve seen scat pack owners with the stock airbox make only 400-410whp and I’ve seen a KZreadr named SRT.B5 get headers, CAI, and tune up to 472rwhp on the dyno. That in my opinion is the best way to go starting out for power and cost.

I wish I had guys like you around back in the mid-90's when I got into modding my Fox body. Of course with that car there are COUNTLESS different parts and upgrades to choose from. I wasted a lot of time and money, and put way too much faith in ADVERTISED hp gains, but then again I learned from those mistakes.

@mikehawk120

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, the 90`s amd early 00`s was rough on us then. Was good times though. I rem thinking if I ever reached 400hp off of 6psi, I’d be all set.

87MM TB + CAI + RESONATOR AND MUFFLER DELETES? Is it worth it with a drop in Predator 2 Platinum tuning?

just got my first hemi. i had a cummins but that hemi it gets the job done. 2016 5.7 hemi

Hey wasup bro. So I bought a 5.7 hemi already for the 87 Ram. Came out of a 2012 Ram. I wanted to ask about the intake, should I keep the same or would you recommend me swapping out from a 6.1 or 6.4 hemi?

Alot of the modifications you have noted don't bring may gains stand alone however if you tuned the motor, you will see crazy gains. A cam plus a tune can easily see 50 hp. So if you spend the money and do a larger throttle body plus the cam and exhaust( full exhaust, not the cat back) you can see extreme gains

Good video B Mason! hey I wanted to comment on the intake manifold I have the luxury of speaking with SRT engineers since I work at the headquarters here in Auburn Hills. a couple of weeks ago I spoke with their air flow expert about the what could be done to increase horsepower in the 6.4. he said the intake manifold is where the power is in the stock engine. when the engine was developed there was absolutely zero budget for the intake manifold. he explained the intake manifold is a 3-piece unit and they used the 5.7 SRV truck intake, just changed the TB location. He said if I bolt on a 6.4 "Big Gas" intake manifold (truck), the 6.4 is over 500hp! He said the truck intake works better simply because it was developed for 6.4 litres. guess who has a 6.4 truck intake...😁

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Eagle Apache awww man!!! I need to find a truck intake and give it a shot.

@JetTech1966

7 жыл бұрын

This post has really piqued my interest. Please keep me update bmason if you find one. That is a mod anyone can fairly easily do and really might be the holy grail when it comes to intakes.

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

JetTech1966 will Do! I am trying to see what it would take to make it work on a car. different inlet side than ours. still collecting data.

@Mechanic618

7 жыл бұрын

B, did you ever locate one and run some tests with it? Cheers.

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Mechanic I haven't had a chance to dig into it. this house is wrecking my free time. Not to mention the budget. I do need to look into it.

Great vid with helpful info and it's nice that someone includes the 6.1 for a very welcome change as I'm often left out because everything is about the 5.7 and 6.4, and that really sucks. I realize that it's because the 6.4 replaced it in SRT,s, so I get it but there's no reason that those of us with the 6.1 can't get any updated info and a little respect. I was thinking about doing a throttle body on my Challenger, but after watching this vid am having second thoughts. If I had the intake ported and Polished and then added the throttle body, do you think that they would work together better than just doing the port job?.

Great video as always. I'm considering doing full bolt ons, headers, edelbrock intake manifold and a conservative tune (I want my motor to last) with headers, intake manifold and a tube how much whp do you think I should see? I'll be happy with a 30-40 hp increase and blown away if I see a 50 whp increase. This is on 6.4 Scatpack challenger

I always enjoy your videos Bmason. You are definitely a wise man when it comes to engines and cars. I love it!! Oh yeah, today I tried to best my 4.9 0 to 60....I totally suck at launching my car. I tried a slow roll on the throttle, I tried a little more aggressive roll. 5.0 is all I could get. Tuesday I have 4 new Atturo AZ850's being delivered. I hope they grip better than those damn Pirelli's lol....those things are junk!!!!

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

JetTech1966 thank you very much. I have to agree. the stock Pirelli tires are garbage for traction. I've heard some good things about those atturos. keep me posted on how they do!

@JetTech1966

7 жыл бұрын

Will do sir. I will probably have them installed within the next few weeks. They are hard to find these days and are not as cheap as they once were unfortunately.

I own a 2009 grand cherokee with the 5.7, I'm looking to pick up more power but really dont know where I should start. It's pretty quick as is, but I feel it could be better. And for some reason I cannot find a supercharger for the jeep 5.7 hemi ANYWHERE. JUST FOR THE 6.1 OR other dodge cars with the 5.7. Any thoughts?

I have a mostly stock 6.1.. im planning on buying a Bassani exhaust system and flowtech long tube and catless mids.. i was eyeing the Edelbrock victor ii with a hell cat throttle body.. is it worth it? After those mods i would run nitrous and maybe swap out the cam and valve springs.. call it a day

I have a buddy with amR/T Charger. We are in North Carolina, so he took it down to Petty;'s Garage. I will ask him for the list of mods that he did, but as far as I know, he just "Scat Packed" the thing. He told me it dyno'd at 425 at the wheels. Whadda ya think? Is he bullshitting me?

you talked about the factory undertuning the 3 gen hemi. i dont know much about the 3 gen Hemi. i run the early ones a lot. but thats a diff story. about the 3 gen IMHO any / ALL cars are only developed / tuned to when they meet the design criteria then they STOP working on them. and put them in to production. IMHO. i love your talk iam looking forward to seeing the others.

Very informative B Mason. When I dropped a valve into my combustion chamber, I didn't give up as so many 5.7 hemi owners seem to have done. I rebuilt the engine myself with the following mods. Original cylinder heads were custom reground by an old school head builder with next size larger intake and exhaust valves. (Something you really didn't mention.) K & N drop in air filter. Gibson shorty headers. Stock mid pipes and mufflers. (Gibson is the only CARB certified header for the LX.) And lastly: DiabloSport 91 octane tune including MDS delete and transmission shift stiffener. While often working 7 days a week to have money for family AND toys, my Magnum took three years to complete. Consequently, I forgot how the wagon drove comparing then to now. I do believe it's faster, but definitely louder exhaust and firmer shifts. With those four mods, I'm guessing 40 HP gain. Appreciate any feedback.

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Positive Vibration I would guess roughly 30hp to the wheels if you kept the stock cam. we are basically on the same page in terms of gains. you probably picked up some torque down low as well I'm glad to hear you didn't give up on her! those magnums are getting harder and harder to come by.

I just bough a 2015 ram 1500. It has the 5.7L with the single exhaust out the right side. Is there a dual exhaust kit for my truck that has a tip on each side?

Have had my 2019 Charger Scat Pack for about 3 months here in Germany. There is a wrecked Hell Cat that will be parted out. Not sure of year yet. Would getting the Intake box and Throttle Body help cool the intake, maybe help with MPG? HP, would be a bonus, but not priority.

@jasonholloway2577

4 жыл бұрын

I assume I would probably need an adapter for the TB.

I picked up 55whp with the MMX nsr stg3 cam.... a total of 85whp gains with longtubes and catless mids also.. great video. im looking into the new Holley Sniper EFI Intake, that should put me over the 500whp mark easier enough

You speak the truth. Cam, head work and a good custom tune works well.

Almost feel like with the 5.7 hemi in my ram a nice exhaust which I have and doing a street tune is perfect for your everyday commute truck.

ive got a 2017 ram 1500 stock exhaust 5.7. looking for a little louder more throaty exhaust sound but font want to void warranty. was considering a mopar brand cat back exhaust any input or sigestions.

Great Blog. Great informantion.

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Kobe Barnes thank you very much

Hi, I have a 06 charger RT silver letters. I believe my PCM is messed up..wondered if so.eone changed it or something. any ideas what is the best PCM and I'd love to tune out factory MDS I didn't buy this car worried about gad milege..lol bought it for 4 doors for kids and performance love powerful cars..but my is weak..it's OK till 90mph after that be lucky to reach 110 mph weak..I believe it is PCM because when coming to a stop it'd run smooth then hit below 1,500 rpms it changes and idle s rough and shudders..had spark plugs replace coil packs were tested..some garage put computer on car couldn't find any misfiring or anything. any ideas for good computer PCM and I believe when I get a new one I may have to change coil packs and sparkbplugs

@tylercouture216

6 жыл бұрын

crazeken my PCM needs to be replaced to

Good Video... I have a relatively stock 2008 Chrysler 300C AWD with the 5.7 (CAI and Diablo tune). She does have modded tires/rims (275/40/20), racing brakes, and adjustable suspension (KW Performance). What specifically would you recommend to help her in the power area? I was thinking longtube headers & catback exhaust, and maybe cam. Would a 6.4 intake even fit on my 5.7? Thanks for the help.

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Sandman longtubes and a cat back are a good choice. I would also recommend a retune to get the best out of it.

This literally the video I've been looking for, and thank you so much B Mason for doing this! A little bit of your terminology went over my head but knowing WHAT to research is the first step, I think. Yesterday, a friend helped me get the Mopar front strut brace and the Hellcat air intake installed, along with the K&N filter. So far it's been minimal as far as performance but handling has really been noticeable for cornering! Onto my next question - from what I understand, our Scat Packs are rated for 91 octane and it's possible to do a 93 octane tune, since that's what most gas stations around me take, to increase a bit of power? Is this what you meant by a very minor change? And to expand on my original comment, could you do a video on visual mods that scream MOPAR but not ricer? For example: hood wraps, caliper paints (since scat packs have the boring black), hood pins, headlight and taillight tints, other decals like the bee badge (I envy those Charger SP owners!) and other Mopar related products. I'd love to hear your opinions on the matter! I mean, not only do we want our cars to perform the best, we want them to stand out in the crowd as well.

I have a question that's totally off of the topic but does track mode in a 2018 Scat Pack Challenger turn off MDS. Is MDS anything to worry about as far as prolong engine life? Do some 392 engines never have problems with MDS and others do? Usually I drive my car in track mode and am hoping that when I'm in track mode that MDS will not turn on. What are your thoughts on MDS in the 392 2019 Scat Pack. Do the lifters eventually go bad and most engines or do some never have problems? I appreciate your answers to my questions by the way because nobody really answers them except you and you know your stuff as far as muscle cars go because I can tell who is full of crap and who is on top of things.

@bmasontv

5 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that MDS is turned off in track mode and for sure in manual mode. As to the lifter issue, I know of some cars that never have the problem, I only know of a few 392 that ever had an actual lifter failure. That's not to say that there's a mileage amount that will determine when a lifter will fail. One of the cars I'm thinking of had a failure at about 30,000 miles. My truck had a failure at 91,000 miles. I know of some trucks and cars that go well over a hundred and fifty thousand miles with no issues.

Sent here by Demonology,watched a couple vids of yours and 👍.Subbbed

@bmasontv

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I appreciate it!

The tune from hemi fever for any hemi with the msd you can turn that shit off and it never comes back on .iv had it for over 3 years and no problems

How many generations are in the 5.7 hemi in the ram trucks is it only 2 or 3

Do you have an exhaust recommendation for the 6.4 and 5.7? I've heard the GT Haus for the 6.4 and it sounds amazing, but costs a fortune lol. Haven't heard anything that sounds great for the 5.7 yet. I'm in it purely for sound not really worried about any HP gains

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Duke for the 5.7, anything will be an improvement. I like the sound of the Mopar cat back

i want a cam for my scat pack shaker. nice little boost in horsepower and more importantly, I want my shaker to shake :)

Great Vid! Have you had any issues with the MDS on your Challenger? What mileage or factors wear out the MDS? Thanks!

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Brian DeCroce I haven't had any issues personally. My truck is MDS and with nearly 80,000 miles on the clock have had no problems with it at all and it gets run pretty hard. Some guys are saying that they are running into problems with the MDS lifters but mileage doesn't really seem to be a factor in nor does the way that the car is run, meaning if it's beating on or what have you. The luck of the draw pretty much dictates when they start to go bad but General consensus has, at least somewhat led to, around 85 to 90 thousand miles. Even then it's not a guarantee that the MDS lifters will fail. If going with a different camshaft it's advised to swap them out. some shops are more sensitive than others mainly because they see the cars that fail they don't see the cars that don't fail, if that makes any sense.

@LoyalFromATL

7 жыл бұрын

B Mason Thank you for the response! That info Helps!

@Ezell1551

6 жыл бұрын

B Mason what upgrades would you recommend for a 2014 jeep grand Cherokee 5.7 with 45k miles for hp and torque boost?

@pkranz937

6 жыл бұрын

The MDS issue was largely fixed by 2013, and eradicated by mid-2016.

In the Scat Pack 1 kit did they change the pipe diameter, or could I get away with just changing the mufflers and CPU? Trying to save a few pennies

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Steven Bowles just change the mufflers and tune her. She will sound great and run like a champ.

Hey, been watching a few of your videos, nice info and good work. I have a question, I live in a very small town with no tuners or dynos for 1000 miles, literally. I want to add headers and non catted mids to my scat pack. will I run into any issues ? im guessing ill have a CEL ? or will in NEED a tune no questions asked ?

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Stephen Ferguson you will absolutely have a CEL. in reality a cat back / muffler delete will give you some sound without needing a tune. these cars really don't "need" a tune.

Haha I knew that LegMaker guy was a sham! Great marketing though, I'm happy with my K-N. Great videos man I wish I knew about you a couple years ago.

What do you think of the scat pack stage 1 for my 2016 rt charger 5.7 ?? I already have the cai and the exhaust with flowmasters super 44 s I ordered the Pcm thru mopar preformance

The Whipple Supercharger kits for the newer 392 says that they are designed for stock engines. What I'm trying to ask is do you think a Whipple supercharger with the Whipple tune would be an engine Destroyer as far as Pistons go and connecting rods. I'm not going to do anything to my 2019 Scat Pack right now because I still have the warranty and as long as I have a warranty I'm not doing shit but after the warranty is over I was thinking about getting that Whipple supercharger kit and just using the tune provided by Whipple. Any thoughts on longevity. I'm not one to beat the crap out of my car all the time and I'm not one to take it to the track really I just like to cruise around on the street and if somebody wants to throw down then I throw down. Any thoughts?

@bmasontv

5 жыл бұрын

Whipple's Tunes are very soft. Don't expect a whole lot out of the kit in terms of total power output, but it will certainly pick up a decent amount of power. I say go for it

Good point dude everything you talkin about make sense I like I love this car this car is awesome I'm currently doing the same things you have done to yours I appreciate everything you're doing keep up the good work don't worry about the guy complaining about you can bolt everything on Under the Sun and spend millions of dollars and yeah you go faster yeah we all know that

do you think that spending the extra money to use HP Tuners is worth it vs diablo?

Great points, would love a supercharger but don't want to void my maxcare lifetime warranty thanks

Do you have any mod recommendations for my 2014 Dodge Ram (regular cab swb) 5.7 Hemi? Keep in mind that it has 30k miles. Thanks!

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

CamoKevlar your truck isn't even broken in yet! For your truck, I would recommend the same mods as mine. That is, a tune and possibly an exhaust, mainly for sound. The tune will wake it up quite a bit, provided you're not going with a standard canned tune. As for exhaust, well these Hemi sound really nice with an aftermarket muffler.

@stafford426dart

6 жыл бұрын

Best mods for the rams are long tube headers, S&B or Vararam intake, custom tune, Torque converter if you are a 6 speed, throttle body, and if it's in the budget a cam

Nitrous will love that ported stuff 👍

I enjoyed your video. All those things we did as kids on poly's and wedge's gave a good bit but hemis come out of the factory with them done now. I am keen on some exhaust mods on my 6.1 mostly for sound but also in prep for some forced induction. It seems shoving some extra air in there is the best bang for buck.I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the best tuning options for pos displacement superchargers and maybe the best kits you've found? The Edelbrock kit ticks a few boxes but its exy. Whipple seem good but I cant find a complete kit...maybe I'm looking in the wrong places there.

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

I like the procharger system for these cars. A set of longtubes, and full exhaust will help it breathe on the top end. As for tuning, I use HP tuners myself and for tuners, Alex Peitz is the best in the business for getting forced induction combinations down the road safely.

How do you know if your lifters are bad? Do they go out if because of being in 4 cylinder mode? If you kept it out of it would they be more likely to last?

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Midwest Mopars to answer the first question, the symptom is a chirping or ticking sound at idle. That symptoms will go away immediately when you tip into the throttle. As to whether or not running it in 4-cylinder mode is hard on lifters, the debate marches on with that hypothesis. Some are you yes, some argue no. In my experience so far, it seems to be mileage related. It may have something to do with how the vehicle is used, long periods of wide open throttle, or long periods of idling Etc. Some will also argue that oil change intervals being extended can be an issue as well. The point is, there's no definitive answer. Police cruisers spend vast amount of times at idle transitioning into bursts of wide open throttle all the time and don't seem to have a larger number of problems as far as I can tell. Same goes for fleet vehicles. A general rule of thumb as it stands, is any vehicle made after 2015 has better lifters and have not been running into the same problems. But even that is not 100% accurate, as older cars and trucks have run 200,000 miles and more with zero issues.

What do you think about jet performance chip for 6.4 Challenger try it first

The couch is floating in the back ground.🤣🤣🤣

so what I took from this video is dont mode the 5.7 hemi ? I was just going to get the scatpack stage 1 kit to bring me to 400 engine hp

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

That Stage 1 is actually quite a value for the 5.7. The stage 1 is about as far as I would take it, save for headers. The stock 5.7 manifolds can easily be improved upon. I say go for it. Your throttle response and sound is worth the cost alone,

@jeffdavis7990

6 жыл бұрын

Are you talking rear wheel hp? because stock 5.7 is 395hp stock.

@pkranz937

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Davis well, that's kind of a moving target. Actual advertised hp ratings are: 370 in Charger and 300, 375 in the Challenger. 360 in the Grand Cherokee Durango. 395 in the trucks. I believe the squads are probably pushing the same number, with the wide-open tuning in their ECM.

@pkranz937

6 жыл бұрын

Put a police ECM in it. Then run with 89 octane. You'll like it.

@tylercooper5092

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffdavis7990 375*

Preach brother! The best, most realistic advice I’ve seen on KZread. Listen to this guy, he knows what he’s talking about. All great points. The 5.7 does get much better results from mods than the 6.4, but most numbers from manufactures are way over rated. Thanks for spitting some truth!

Great video I would love to hear your thoughts on the pedal commander as I have a 2014 ram 1500 with a 5.7 hemi and am thinking about getting one

@jeepwk6.5L

4 жыл бұрын

Vince Prentice no hp gains really. It’s just to take out the lag.

On my 392 I had my poly intake ported and cleaned up ... matched to heads ... and gained 18 whp and 20 ft lbs which I was very impressed with bang for the buck wise. Got more from that than headers and head porting! 274 cam did well but most gains up high. The mid size cam would be a better choice (270) next time. Cai and throttle body swaps gained 8-9whp really nothing to speak of. If I had to do a 392 over again I'd do headers, 270 like custom cam and ported intake. Done.

B mason what are some mods or maintenance tips for the 5.7 to last forever or almost

B Mason - good vid and I'm right on par with you here. I'm rebuilding a steal of a deal 5.7 with my own welded header kit, minor port & polish, bored +.020" and I want to go on without the MDS. I have no wiring harness or computer with this motor (not really stolen but part of the steal deal). This brings me to the cam and computer. If I buy a salvage yard computer and wiring harness, can I still drop in a little bit more cam? Something around a .500" lift. Thanks...

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Greg Hodges you can, bit will need a tune. Don't forget the MDS delete lifters and hardened push rods.

Great advice thanks dude

Good info

B Mason it seems like the newer generation hemi are pretty solid. so other than the casual flowmaster and CAI and Tune And 3.92 gear. why should i start digging into cam shafts headers piston rods in my ram since its running already running like a beast with just a few mods.

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Casper10M my point, exactly!

@Casper10M

7 жыл бұрын

B Mason my 3.92 is running like a beast should i leave it. or do u think going up to a 4.10 would benefit me?

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

Casper10M​ not enough of a difference going to a 4.10. If leave the 3.92 and let'er eat!

@skipturner5852

6 жыл бұрын

How about 4.56? (ram scsb)

@S01LACED

6 жыл бұрын

That's my plan. However, I am turning 37s, so idk why I haven't done that already.

What is a good brand for metal substrate cats

How much faith do you have in the stock composite intake manifold for the 5.7? Will it affect reablity as a truck in heavy heat cycles from towing or Hooning?

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

{Motor Mafia} no reports of any failures or issues with the truck intake that I know of

@Dezzylyricz

6 жыл бұрын

B Mason. Thanks, your knowledge is very appreciated. Could you do engine tours of your Mopars? I have little experience with V8s and Mopar. Lastly since you need double the spark plugs do you run a proformance plug on one or the other? I'm looking at a regular cab 1500 sport, my plan is to make it my work truck but also a prerunner/trail runner. My name is Mason as well. Thank you.

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

{Motor Mafia} no need in a "performance" spark plug. Run the mopar plugs. We have some engines at the shop in various states of assembly. I may make a vid on that some day.

2013 rt challenger k & n cai, long tube headers, ported stock intake, flow masters with h pipe, mid muffler delete...should i go with a 85mm throttle or keep it stock? I also have pedal commander

@bmasontv

4 жыл бұрын

Get a fast man through ported 84 mm throttle body, if you get anything. The stock tb is already very good for your application.

@10ksmash84

4 жыл бұрын

@@bmasontv ok thanks

Thumbs up and great since of humor

Your mistaken its not about how much 1 part changes how the motor runs. Its about how all the parts work together. +2 hp is lame, +10 hp is not really noticable, but when it is all added up new heads, cam, intake, carb and air cleaner on a new ls or hemi engine it will make a difference. Stock cam with aftermarket heads makes no sense and new cam with stock heads doesnt make sense either. Its how things cooperate

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

The point of this was to illustrate the lack of aftermarket support for the gen 3 Hemi. I agree, it IS THE COMBINATION which is greater than the sum of its parts. Unfortunately, there are not that many matched combinations for this platform. The heads flow incredible numbers as stock castings, so a traditional camshaft swap will often create a lazy engine lower in the RPM range with a marginal increase up top. Intake manifolds are limited to ported factory pieces and are therefore hampered by factory inlet tracts/designs. the 5.7 is in a better position than the 392 in terms of gains (% gain over stock) , but then the cost becomes a factor.

@turbofreek

6 жыл бұрын

B Mason bullshit there are several types of different intakes available for the gen 3 hemi. clearly you dont know wtf you are talking about. ritters, arrow, joe rivera, just to name a few intakes

@lifeonadime4703

6 жыл бұрын

Iv seen a 26i cam and tune ALONE gain damn near 50 hp on a 5.7 non mds truck engine. That's worth about the cost of a grand to me. I agree that there isn't a lot of aftermarket compared to an ls or say a older 5.0 mustang but the mods do work

@pkranz937

6 жыл бұрын

Branden Childers without a Dyno slip, don't fertilze the field with it.

@lifeonadime4703

6 жыл бұрын

P Kranz it wasn't my truck but it was on a dyno and there are PLENTY of dyno sheets to prove that gain. Look around on Google on the dodge forums. It's definitely not some amazing secret

B mason what are your thoughts on fuel treatments? i have a 2018 ram 1500 with a 5.7L Hemi and would like to keep it running healthy, and happy. You seem like a no bullshit kind of guy. Thoughts?

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Antonio Defoe use good quality gasoline and leave the additives alone. Most don't do anything but clean your wallet of some cash.

@antoniodefoe1581

6 жыл бұрын

Copy that i run 89 mid grade and the truck seems happy

Hey man I’ve asked you before about catch can. Can you tell me about trinity ? I want to make minor adjustments such as TM, throttle boost, and most of all remove speed limiter. Don’t wanna do anything crazy and don’t want to lose warranty

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

Hello Cheta I like the trinity. A basic tune with the trinity won't get you much power but you will get the drivability mods you are looking for. As an added bonus, you get the option to datalog.

Hey, this brings up a question (go figure, right?). Do the manual models have MDS? THat may sound dumb, but forgive me. I worked on Jets, and am a novice with Internal combustions. It would seem, however,. that a human controlled manual would be too unpredictable for an MDS system. Intuiting says that to me, not knowledge.

@revmatchproductions

7 жыл бұрын

Kennedy McGovern no. If the car is in sport or in manual mds will not come on, the 6.4 DOES have mds. Sorry to let you down man, just keep it in sport or manual and you're all good!

@kennedymcgovern5413

7 жыл бұрын

Oh, don't be sorry at all. I'd rather my expectations be accurate. Thanks for the correction, bro!

@kennedymcgovern5413

7 жыл бұрын

Hey, what about with a manual tranny? It seems like an MDS would have a hell of a time reacting to power downshifts, and other examples of the relative unpredictability of a human shifter,. Are they able to make MDS work with the Tremec? Or do they leave it out of these cars?

@revmatchproductions

7 жыл бұрын

Kennedy McGovern you are correct. The manuals do not have it.

@kennedymcgovern5413

7 жыл бұрын

OH, OK...cool then. I bought one that I am awaiting delivery on, so I have not yet discovered anything. But mine is a manual...so...EXCELLENT! Thanks for the info man!

Any thoughts on that edelbrock carbureted manifold for the gen 3, i got a 5.7 and a howards 786965-13 and thinking about running it with a couple 750's Hot rod magazine has an article of one that made 465hp/420lbft with twin 500cfm carbs and Comp's XFI 273H-14 with the exact same springs i got (totally by accident)

@bmasontv

5 жыл бұрын

It's a good enough piece for what it's intended for. I wouldn't necessarily say that it would outperform the stock fuel injection for drivability. That said it looks great and performs just fine.

@Dylanschillin

5 жыл бұрын

@@bmasontv I'm curious as to how mine will compare with the larger cam and carbs

I have a question I have a 06 Charger rt and it dropped a valve in the motor and I need a new one it’s been a common issue with these 5.7 hemi’s, should I get a 2010-13 Dodge Challenger? Because I was told that the issue has been resolved by 2010 with the dropped valve seat issue.

@bmasontv

5 жыл бұрын

Would be worth looking into. The valve issue is a known problem on some early hemis.

@GreatestHITS26

5 жыл бұрын

B Mason yeah it sure is

Takes a little wind out of my sails but he has forgot more about cars than I will ever know.

So I couldn't modify the 5.7 liter Hemi to have no mds with out modifing more than just putting in the mds plugs????

@bmasontv

4 жыл бұрын

.... Or you could turn off the function in the tune....

@joshuamoore24_7

4 жыл бұрын

I don't have a tuner or mod chip that plugs in. But I am going to leave in tow/haul mode!!!!! To keep it running on all 8 cylinders!!! No busted lifter and wiped camshaft worries with no mds 4 - 8 cylinders mode.

Is the 6.1L worth modifying? I desire to cam mines with an Arrington or MMX custom grind but... my goodness it costs almost $6k to cam my car here in NJ.

@bmasontv

4 жыл бұрын

Worth and cost are subjective. What are your goals for the car?

@jtbatista

4 жыл бұрын

@@bmasontv it's a daily driver for me at the moment. I just want more power at the rear end and have fun. Thats all I want.

I have a question would a cold air intake make more power on a computer tuner and should I buy a ebay intake and just put a k&n on it.

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

zombiekillerdx3 depends on the car. You may be better off going with the drop in K&N for your car

Have u known of anyone putting a 6.4 intake manifold on a 2015+ 5.7 hemi?

thanks for the sound advice , you've basicly said what Ive learned already, the 6.4l is basicly maxed out from the factory, ive found the only increases are when its all bee combined, cai, resonator delete, tune and intake , Ive done all my mods in that order, I recently got a great deal on a used NOS system and paid for the diablo tune for a 100hp shot and for 200 for the kit and 125 for the tune ,its been my best mod, the diablo tuner , was essential for the nos to pull timing , it also lets me play with the shift points f/a ratio and traction control , rev limiter etc , amd most important to me anyways, change the tire sizes .so I get accurate wheel speed sensing , because theres always that one cop you know????

Great video.......

What parts are interchangeable from the 6.1 to the 5.7 can I put 6.1 cam heads and intake on my 5.7 and possibly get somewhere close to the horsepower of a 6.1

@bmasontv

6 жыл бұрын

SHOE GOD 23 it depends on the year. You would be better off porting the stock 5.7 heads and running a 6.1 intake, along with a "NSR" cam with upgraded springs. (I don't recommend a cam without springs and push rods) if it is an earlier model 5.7.

Not to mention the 5.7 in the Ram puts out 395HP and the 5.7 in the Challenger puts out 375HP. It has to do with the lager intake on the Ram.

@GusgusA1

5 жыл бұрын

Where do you get your numbers? Thought was 345hp

@MrSleepProductionsInc

5 жыл бұрын

GusgusA1 the older 5.7 makes 345 hp the newer (not sure what year) Dodge bumped up the power to 395 hp. in the trucks. The jeeps/ cars are all rated differently

I have 2004 ram 5.7 what should I do

I'm with you Professor ; I would wait until any telltale signs of MDS problems before doing a Cam swap but at the same time I would be hoping for lifter problems so I could swap out that little bump stick for one that will give my car the baddest sounding idle. Who cares if I only get 25-30 more hp ?

@bmasontv

7 жыл бұрын

BDOG JR agreed!

i have a 09 R/T 6M track pack (3.92 diff with 18" rims instead of 20's)), mods include ,392 cam, wide band 02. (tune by johan)bbk shorties, custom cat back ,fastman 82mm TB, 180 deg stat , complete rear suspension urethane bushing kit (wheel hop is gone) custom franken intake induction piping, i used 4" pvc drainage pipe (thin wall) 90" silicone elbow 4"-3" entering the TB then turning down into the fender area with a large K&N conical filter. all joint connections were smoothed out eliminating anything that would cause turbulence. i also smoothed out the inside of the k&n coupler to create a bell mouth . it was squared off go figure . relocated the IAT,over towards the fender tubing .the goal here was to smooth out the entire leignth of the induction system as well as stabilizing IAT temps. the next step was trying to keep it as cool,as possible . you guys all know that the rad fan blows directly onto the intake pipe ,TB and the IAT, heating it all up, i made a air deflector that directs the fan air bellow the TB and pipe preventing the hot air from directly hitting it. the result was IAT temps at ambient when moving and about 10 deg above when stopped with a rapid adjusting when moving. smoothing out the induction system to the TB is the way to go ,keeping IAT temps in check is critical . my ride also has a wide band 02, in my opinion you cant dial in or tune it without that ! my A/F is on average at 12.7-1 at wot in all 3 ranges when i data log ,yes lean is power in a nat asp. the last thing on list is to clean up the casting flaws in the intake manifold ports. im sorry guys i have no track times or dyno results (coming soon) . i also hooked up my manometer to the intake plumbing to check for pressure drop .its below 5" wc. meaning almost 0 restrictions (no vacuum at WOT) in the induction tubing . on average my car runs about 4 sec 0-60 lowest was 3.9 . on a 60 deg day .its also hard to stop wheel spin. all these mods were very cheap BTW. thanks for reading . great Chanel !

I have to disagree on the headers I have a Jeep srt 6.4 and with kooks headers and a borla exhaust I picked up 40 hp to the wheels which I thought was a pretty good gain and it cut off a half a second off my 0 to 60 time but yet it was a little pricey

35 to 40 hp with no problems with the hemi fever tune and she always runs super