The glaring fact about disc 5 is that it is made of disc fragments, meaning that the story the disc tells is incomplete, hence the merging of Dungeons and Java could be two different discs combined into one.

@merlijnopdenbergh981

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the new Minecraft thing will connect our stories

@Mudd4073

Жыл бұрын

@@merlijnopdenbergh981 legends?

@SandiSaydak

Жыл бұрын

ooh thats pretty cool i didnt thought about that

@AkoTE.

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, if you look really close, Disc 5 kinda looks like 2 discs stacked on top of each other, as no other disc in the game is that thick.

@ivanslapnicar5441

Жыл бұрын

It is true you can find more than 9 disc fragments in the ancient city.

There was another broken disc (11 if im not mistaken ) and if you play disc 5,and then disc 11 with the offset of 11 secs (or in the other order) they line up perfectly, and are making the possible story more complete. Hope you see It and probably make another great vid covering this point (sorry for mistakes i dont know english that good)

@thethe9286

Жыл бұрын

And disk 13 too I’m pretty sure

@camliona

Жыл бұрын

If you count 13 seconds, play disc 5 at the 5th second, disc 11 at the 11th second, and disc 13 at the 13th second it will all line up

@SandiSaydak

Жыл бұрын

@@camliona or disc 5 at the 1st second disc 11 at the 7th second and disc 13 at the 9th second

@dragonofspades2837

Жыл бұрын

Everytime I see one of these videos I forget about this until I read the comments... one of these videos will combine the discs.... one of them...... (Also, you're english is really good! c: )

@theguyinthechair

Жыл бұрын

@@camliona yes, that's it

13:25 that has got to be the nicest looking wither i have ever seen in my entire life.

@akwan55

Ай бұрын

Hi

@happygaming4462

Ай бұрын

Hi

@macaAndTheRoni

Ай бұрын

the heads: hi hi hi :3

If you want the WHOLE picture for these disks you have to play disk 11, 13, and 5 all at the same time. You’ll get the full story

@DashMatin

10 ай бұрын

or a seizure out of fear

@da_bois76

9 ай бұрын

I'm just trying it

@RealTheBestMonkeVR

9 ай бұрын

​@@DashMatintrue

@SeanScheiderer

8 ай бұрын

Form now on I think it’s safe to say all disks that’s names are only numbers fit together

@user-ji7tl9oj8w

7 ай бұрын

I saw a vid about that idea once.

What if the frame *IS* a portal, a portal to Minecraft dungeons, the reason sounds come from both games, showing the story on both sides, perhaps they needed the warden to kill the wither to activate it. It's a longshot, but possible.

@wyattb9578

Жыл бұрын

I love this theory

@sboy2044

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, they literally said that both games are from the same universe.

@nastykerb34

Жыл бұрын

in differnt places

@fshmeft

Жыл бұрын

​@@sboy2044 It IS from the same universe but the End and Nether along with the Overworld could very well be bundled in the same Universe as well. It has been theorized that the Nether is what lies below the bedrock layer of the overworld. Also the appearance of a sun and a moon and even distant stars in the night sky means there is many other solar systems with their own planets, this could be why the End seems to be in an endless void possible being a pseudo galaxy with all it's island or another (and possible more likely) idea is that the End is in a very large but still forming star system and the island being in a spot similar to the asteroid and Kuiper belt in our solar system. This explains why a portal is needed because you can't simply fly back to the End once you have obtained an Elytra due to it's great distance. Also the End in MC:D has different plants and animals meaning it may be the Ancient Builders but at a point in time when they were weaker and haven't fully killed off and exploited the End for it's resources. And the Vengeful Heart of Ender (which the the Heart of Ender after it gets defeated) used to be the Arch Illager. The follow this up there are tons and tons of illagers throughout the levels of the game meaning this race used to be abundant and powerful with the ability to take over and destroy villages and capture their residents. Now in the main time of MC:J the illagers are few and far between having the occasional outpost, the illagers also need the assistance of a player to lead them to a village showing how far they've fallen since the events of MC:D (which according to this theory has taken place in the past). A little something to think about. :)

@sboy2044

Жыл бұрын

@@fshmeft You got a lot of stuff completely wrong. The Arch-Illager is not the Heart of Ender. The Heart of Ender is the Orb of Dominance, who is a sentient entity who used the Arch-Illager as a puppet to fulfill its goals. The reason for the abundance of illagers is due to then having taken over the land, which is literally the plot of Dungeons. The plant-life in the End could be due to the Orb of Dominance/Vengeful Heart of Ender’s presence in the dimension, as it is implied to have a strong connection to it. It has been stated a bunch of times that the Nether and End are dimensions, which wouldn’t make sense if they existed in the same space as the Overworld. It is extremely likely that Dungeons takes place after the base game. This is due to the fact that the end portal is already open, and how in Dungeons the undead were immune to the sun by the Orb, when in the base game the undead clearly still burn in daylight.

Holy crap, I didn't expect retro to be here

@TheGoofyGooberrr

Жыл бұрын

Same

@dcincco3292

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Although I feel like compared to Wifies, he’s really underrated. I though he had more subs?

I like the idea of the frame being a catalyst. Maybe it went out of control with the Wither's death and covered the whole city in sculk.

i can’t believe you are in harvard

Excellent video, as always! Thanks for having me!

The use of the endersents might also be alluding to some connection between the sculk and the end. Like, has nobody mentioned the fact that sculk and ender pearls have uncannily similar coloration?

@W01FG04T

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, something I've always wonder is why does the nether portal look like it would be the end portal? Like it purple and black and colours, and the portal to the end look like scull related, it's always confused me

@olivierallaire6302

Жыл бұрын

@@W01FG04T Plus there are endermen now spawning in the nether, you make a good point.

@cyberlemon9840

Жыл бұрын

How are you EVERYWHERE?

@TikTikboom173

Жыл бұрын

Or early tease of end update?

@justanordinaryguy6568

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately kingbdogz himself confirmed in a tweet around 2021 that sculk does not relate to the end in anyway

When you showed the dragon and said what sounded like a mechanical working (10:55) is actually the one Minecraft ambient sound

Absolutely brilliant. You put a clicking ticking background music over the sounds effects and chimes you are analysing to make sure the listeners get confused whether the effects they are hearing are coming from the back ground music or not.

I like how open to interpretation Minecraft lore is

Here's my theory on disc 5: The first section is showing people in the deep dark, based on the dripstone and other cave-affiliated sounds. It is an army fighting something, which is why we hear many people and sirens blaring. I think they are fighting the wither, which forced them to go beneath the surface. That is also why I think the ancient cities are more likely to appear under mountains, because it provides extra protection against the wither. Anyways, the wither you can hear creating explosions getting closer to the city. You can also hear a lever and a huge gust of wind in the track, indicating that the army has opened some sort of gate. That is then the end of section 1. After the music plays, you can hear the machine coming to life as the people try to escape through the huge center portal, which I believe they built as an emergency escape. That is why it is made of reinforced deepslate, because it is one of the few blocks the wither can't break. However, something else comes out of the portal instead, the sculk. That is why you can hear sculk shriekers and sensors. The warden then proceeds to get summoned, and kills the wither. You can hear the slowed down death of the wither in the track. The people then view the warden as a hero, but they soon find out he is deadly to them as well. That is why I think they built many representations of the warden, like the small statues around the city. Eventually, however the sculk gets too powerful and the people have to leave. That is when I think they made the strongholds, to try and get away to another dimension to escape the sculk. Also, any static or random cuts in the track I believe are just the fact that it was broken into shards, so it's not completely perfect. It's just a theory, but I think it's a pretty good one. Feel free to agree or disagree in the replies.

@virajkharat1515

Жыл бұрын

I believe this is Matpat's theory

@DarthGaming13

Жыл бұрын

@@virajkharat1515 Yea i basically took his rough idea and made some changes of my own

@DarthGaming13

Жыл бұрын

@Not Accurate Thank you!

@flogchamp9530

Жыл бұрын

I think this theory is pretty good. could be they summoned the warden, could be they were trying to get away from the wither, but either way it's not super hard to guess that they were the ones who ultimately brought the warden. the one thing I don't entirely agree on is that they'd have to escape to another dimension to avoid the sculk, since it clearly can't really spread too far and they'd want to wait before they knew they were gonna be overrun, my only guess is that another wither must've been spawned but ultimately I think it's just a plothole for now that will get resolved later. other than that, i'm pretty sure this is the most plausible theory.

@LoudMikeDoesRoblox

Жыл бұрын

HOW THE FUCK DID I JUST READ THAT WHOLE STORY WITHOUT MY BRAIN EXPLODING IN INFORMATION

Normal Minecraft players: bro what is this sh** atleast make it rewarding Minecraft lore: *its free real estate*

Disc 5, 11, and 13 fit together really well

Something I've tried, which seems explaining, might help. Place three jukeboxes, count to 5, when you've done that place disc 5. Continue counting, until you've counted to 11, and then place that disc. Continue counting to 13, then place disc 13. It sounds connected in some way.

@kix_501st

8 ай бұрын

i’ll try it

@keroppib4ptista

3 ай бұрын

I’ve seen this but I doubt it because in mojang, when you make a feature with a backstory (yes, backstory), you can’t say what that backstory is to any other employees (Idk why, but it’s in the dev book). Of course, the dev book was made after c418 left but even then how would Samuel Åberg (I think is his name) would know that. But since c418 left minecraft we might never know :(

Who knew Minecraft could get this deep.

@rhuajjuu7726

Жыл бұрын

Was that not the point of the cave update

@farhanaislam5129

Жыл бұрын

Me

@bonzeitheprotogen

Жыл бұрын

Minecraft is a pretty *dark* game

@ImaReign

Жыл бұрын

Guys stop saying "deep dark" in the longest way possible

@limt3d0664

Жыл бұрын

FRR

the fact that your production quality has skyrocketed since your older videos which are still amazing is itself amazing, the time you put into these is insane, and i love the few bits of shitpost irony tossed into an extremely well-made analysis. incredible job bruh fr

@XenoghostTV

Ай бұрын

What "analysis" it's literally made-up stories based on Minecraft, especially the auto-generated structures. The "lore" doesn't actually exist. It's a trick. in this case generated from HEAVY reaching over discs that were 100% just meant to be used as eerie audio texture for spooky areas.

I feel this might be something else entirely. The ancient builders built the ancient cities but it too is possible that they built dungeons. We know they could access multiple dimensions. What if the disc5 is the story of the ancients, them escaping from the surface to the underground , then the warden appearing, the fight, escaping to nether and from there to the end. The unfortunates transforming into the beasts who will guard the entrance, while some would create duplicate copies for someone to rescue them. Food for thought

i haven’t played minecraft in a couple years now, but i always watch when wifies uploads

@906robot9

Жыл бұрын

same

@Whodidyoudieto

Жыл бұрын

play it

@jay2x478

Жыл бұрын

@@Whodidyoudieto no i’m okay thanks for the suggestion

@boez_

Жыл бұрын

@@jay2x478 it wasnt a suggestion

@jay2x478

Жыл бұрын

@@boez_ yes

6:26 If you listen carefully, it sounds like a wither, which makes sence since prior to that you could hear soulsand being placed.

@karandeepsingh9582

11 ай бұрын

Probably to extract it's power.

@blueninja7113

9 ай бұрын

prolly from mc story mode

Alright, I'm just spit balling here. The voice whispering "secrets" and placing soul sand might be Ivor from Minecraft story mode constructing the wither storm. We already know that at one point there was wither storms in the nether due to the giant wither fossils in soul sand valleys. So it's not completely out of the picture that they might be adding something from story mode to Minecraft to add more evidence Mojang has been focusing on the past and history of Minecraft recently.

Wow cool video thank you (: i love your videos i think the caving sound is from mc dungeons wenn a stone wand/door opens

It’s a good day when Wifies uploads

@rhuajjuu7726

Жыл бұрын

Indeed; his videos bring a very summer atmosphere.

@theemp618

Жыл бұрын

Hell naw😊

@theduck3764

Жыл бұрын

@@rhuajjuu7726 no

@DuxAre_cool

Жыл бұрын

@I'll say when it's time thats a rick roll

@IDcLuc

Жыл бұрын

It's a bad day when you see a comment like this

5 is the amount of nukes coming to your exact location

@Zachyshows

Жыл бұрын

This shouldn't be funny

@bob_man_420

Жыл бұрын

@@Zachyshowscorrect, but it is

6:50 BROOO, i just realized, the echo shards are basically amethist shards, because amethist is used in the calibrated sculk sensor to be more precise and capture sound better but is used for souls instead of sound like the recovery compass, how the warden pray intruder creatures to get more powerful and get the experience with the catalist that is droped by him. That is why this thing makes a lot of sens in the dark lore of the Minecraft !

Amazing, this is equivalent to figuring out the plot of a movie only by it’s soundtrack track. Keep it up!

This makes so much sense. There’s two stories at once and it makes sense, remember in a video about the warden you said the ancient builders split into two groups? One stronghold and one ancient city. The dungeons could be the story of the stronghold and the Minecraft could be the ancient city

the crossover between minecraft and minecraft dungeons is clear (and gives a whole lot more possibilities for lore, even beyond disc 5), personally i liked your theory, and have a few random things to say that are hard to connect, so here is an unconnected list: 1. the sound you described as a cave in also sounds like an endersent smashing, you can here a faint vwoop (thats the official term for that sound... right?) right as the cave shakes 2. the official novel about the arch illager mentions an ancient war between the orb of dominance and the ancient buiders (thats how the orb got trapped in that mountain in the first place) the encounter with the endersent could imply that the disc was made during this war. 3. you put my two previous thoughts together and suddenly, maybe it isnt a wither, but an army of endersent (and probably enderlings and who knows, maybe a dragon too) wait... that list was connected...

@doctorsketch7476

Жыл бұрын

hmmmmmmmmmmm

@sboy2044

Жыл бұрын

Where was that mentioned in the book? All I remember was Archie wondering if the Orb had a victim before him and if they were able to be freed.

maybe the reason the story has random stuff in it like phantoms, amethyst breaking etc. is because its not complete, next updates might have new lore connecting to disc five making the story whole

I think that the giant catalyst in the deep dark city is a Interdimensional Travel Device (A device that allows travel between dimensions/alternate universes/planes of existence/etc) that the ancients built two escape from something and they couldn't control it and they ended up at the bottom of a cave that they could not get out of and that's why they went Extinct before the player spawns in the world to meet them.

I feel like the merging of a java and a dungeons story is probably because of the fragments that you craft the disk out of. You may have accidentally grabbed a wrong piece. This would also explain the out-of-place sounds like the amythest.

Disc 5 is truly a big mystery and I'm glad to see it covered. Skulk, the Warden, and the disc are clearly linked because of the design, but the breaking down of the music is unique. Great video! Quick edit: The link with dungeons is crazy and also the linking of the universes is very unique. That shot of the cave as you piece together where it must have taken place is something I wish was in more videos.

If you place 3 jukeboxes and start counting up, at 5 seconds play disc 5, at 11 seconds play disc 11 and, at 13 play disc 13 and when played together they make a comprehensive story.

7:00 what if its the new amethyst sensor thing in 1.20?

1:35 i always thought the clicking was because all the shards were crafted together, there would be bumps or something where they were joined so as the needle goes over the bumps on the jukebox it makes a click

@Noah_Morrison

Жыл бұрын

That is a really good point

9:18 ITS MEEEEEEEEE

@greencopper12

11 ай бұрын

XD

That's actually a really creative way of explaining it

I THINK I GOT IT at 8:27. the phantom noises are there bc the portal in the middle of the ancient city was activated. This maybe triggered the warden and that's why the alarm is going off. and the warden is killing the people which explains why phantoms are spawning. Or, maybe the phantoms spawn underground, bc in Minecraft dungeons u go into caves (the fiery forge, red stone mines, etc.). whichever one you think

Thanks for this crossover. Ive waited so long for this to happen. Love you two.

Nah Minecraft’s greatest mystery is why the devs won’t make minecarts faster

@iyeq601

Жыл бұрын

powered rails:

@SupersuMC

Жыл бұрын

@@iyeq601 Legacy Console Edition: Has fastest minecarts 1.8 development: Tried LCE minecarts but it went horribly wrong, leading to reversion.

im glad ur still doin well now, i was here when u were doing the hermitcraft meme videos. i also got a heart from you, its on the redstone rulebook guide video

The noise of something at 6:24 is so interesting and makes me think it is the portal which I kinda hope it is, or maybe its something from the new dimension where the portal teleporting us to.

Always surprises me with the lore he uncovers

These videos take a long time as you guys can see from all of this reasearch. Each time we see wifies not uploading for a long time we know it is going to be a banger! Keep go wifies!

Im proud seeing you get popular, i remember when you only had 200k subscriber and now you have 1.4m, you blew up when you uploaded the escape rooms video, and then the 30 secrets in Minecraft Which blew you

11:55 I love the greenscreen joke lol.

That is some great lore! Thank you for your analysis

That is an original interpretation. I like that players can come up with their lore and yet it may or may not be the real deal.

hey wifies! you probably get this a lot but thanks for making content. I love it all so much and I’m learning so much.

When matpat runs out of theory because of 4:38 😂

I LOVED the retrogamingnow crossover. THANK YOU!

Great lore video as always!

Wifies,you never fail to impress me with your content letting me know more about Minecraft thank you and keep up the great content

this has been popping up on my recommended for 3 days now, and now I’m finally watching it

Waiting for Minecraft to comment saying How did you know

MATPAT: are you serious right now?

2:51 this part made me laugh hard asf for some reason. 💀💀💀

sounds like an all out war... Battle Of The Five Armies: Minecraft Edition

2 best minecraft lore youtubers in one video? Love these and can’t wait for more from both!

is it me or has Wifies come back 10x better than before?

7:37 Omgsh! I never expected this crossover! I'm so happy!!

OMG u had to do so much research. I have no clue how u did it. This video was awesome and ur hard work was showing off in the video!!

Would really love is this type of content aswell as the old math ones to be recontinued!

The matpat of Minecraft, lets hope its not gonna be 7 YEARS

3:50 What if the portal opens and makes the weird sound and the portal connects to random place in minecraft dungeons universe EDIT: Oh okay so they are in same universe so my next quess is that the portal in mid ancient city connects to some place with the weird endermen from minecraft dungeons instead

The Phantoms being a call of mass death happening from whatever disaster is striking the ancient city civilization is terrifying.

I still have no idea how this guy comes up with all this from just a disc in a block game, it honestly blows my mind

@737e7dhs4

Жыл бұрын

This so called block game has a multi dollar bussiness so I don't even know what you guys want to mean by saying block game, even tho it might not look much, huge work and planning goes even before adding a smallest change in Minecraft

0:58 Wifles yes that's a wool!

it would fit the fact about the story of how that one painting shows the wither with a red background. The three adventurers, most likely the adventurers, parted ways and agreed that each adventurer has tasks. The first to summon the wither, and he/she died right after, the second, to do the ritual and summon an army as a backup in case anything goes wrong, and the third to defeat the ender dragon even if it means trapping him/she in there.

“Infinity War will be the most ambitious crossover yet” Wifies and RetroGamingNow:

Wifies is the ultimate mystery solver, great video!

@Incognito-jl6ez

Жыл бұрын

🤓

@maxthedoge6927

Жыл бұрын

🤓

@BloonPlays

Жыл бұрын

🤓

Wifies is soooo entertaining and these videos are always so deep and thought out, thanks wifies!

I think the ritual is made to travel between platforms (java and dungeons) and that may explain the overlay. And possibl something went wrong causing it to be unstable so everything sounds overlayed.

I am really excited about what minecraft is gonna do with an end update. I think that update will be the more lore filled one in the entire history of minecraft. One update where all the pieces from the nether, deep dark, surface overworld, maybe even the lord in the oceans and deserts come together into one cohesive story that finally makes sense and shows the entire history of the ancient builders and maybe even more

At 6:30 the sound I think resembles a wither

I think it could also hint that the giant thing in the ancient city is a portal, because these ender things from dungeons are guarding a portal, why not an other one too?

@mo0raa

Жыл бұрын

What if they just brought in the warden or made it from the skulk beyond to kill the wither because they could have just summoned it down there if it was for power

There's a video that plays both disk 5 & disk 11 at the same time. The interesting aspect when one does this is that the audio on one disk seems to fill in the silence of the other; Both disks having audio in the foreground & background, for the other.

The effect of an enter scent is actually just an effect when the re-recorded part switches to the originally recorded song on it.

When the world needed him most… He returned (Great video btw)

I’ve been waiting for this since disc 5 came out!

Now this is a hard theory that even MatPat can take after

Thorough analysis. Good work.

Fun Fact: In Minecraft, Beacons, Wither, Soul Sand, Soul Soil, etc, use souls to power. This happens in Minecraft Dungeons, when you use Soul Powered artifacts. You can also harvest souls with certain bows, armor, and melee weapons.

Only Wifies could think this much about block game round thing

The fact that the endersent is mentioned to be in this lore and another lore from other youtubers is actually interesting

Interesting Im not sure if anybody mentioned this theory but hear me out. A part of disk 5 is probably made when the ancient city wasn't taken over by the sculk. We know that sculk spreads when mobs die on the sculk thingy. Things got a little outta hand and assuming the ancient city had a large population (hence ancient CITY) there must have been one too many casualties down there and that is why there is the sirens going off and the dungeon phantoms that appear when teammates perish. Edit: Nvm you guys practically said what I just said haha

Thank you for uploading great content!

I have another theory, it is mainly the same as yours but a crucial deference at the end, I think that the structure in the center of the city is both an artificial catalyst and a portal to the dungeons world, and the killing of the vengeful heart of ender sent its soul/exp thru the portal/catalyst and caused it to lose control, covering the city in more skulk than expected and destroying the machine which is why the player can't turn it on.

Nice job! More effort put in this video than Mojang does for a game update.

Whenever you were talking about the sound sounding like reverse xp the sound kinda reminded me of a nether portal but then something came to my mind. It kinda sounds like a reverse respawn anchor but that’s not possible but it could be something that was never added to Minecraft or hasn’t been added yet or it’s just there for the lore and when you were talking about the Endersent I thought of it and maybe (slim chance) it came from dungeons through the portal in the ancient city and started hiding or hibernating (if they even do that) in the ground like the warden and then the music disc picked it up. I forgot to talk about how the person recording sounds like they’re hiding from those people and those people summon the Endersent and the person recording starts running away but when they get out there are phantoms which they’re scared of so they run back in and go to the ancient city. Also maybe the amethyst they broke was probably to stop the people from following them but they get through and they were trying to make a wither and finished and maybe they figured out how to turn on the portal. I think I forgot to mention maybe the Endersent turned off the portal. But this is 99% probably not right.

Man, out of all the crossovers no one expected *this* Great theory tho❤

There should be a story for the minecraft journey. Not like dungeons or story mode. Like a proper story that you can play through, that links parts of the nether, the end, deep dark and even lack of civilisation or unusual mobs. Who knows, a new biome might hit, and I reckon they should add a deep dark equivalent in the nether. As the nether should deserve it more, being a mysterious and dead place. Maybe the nether will get a story where it was once normal, and then burned down and destroyed. So the nether was the original world and they retreated to the "overworld"

@flogchamp9530

Жыл бұрын

that would be a pretty fun twist and the soul sand would be evidence of whatever horrors transpired that could cause souls to get trapped in the sand.

@chronoshindou9848

Жыл бұрын

Minecraft Legends is coming soon, and pretty much will be focused around Nether

Disc 5 sounds like Stage 5. Everywhere at the End of Time to be exact. The nice piano part reminds me of the clarity moments in K1 and N1 in Stage 5,

I love it when this guy uploads. So cheerfully morbid.

I think that the phantoms can also be explained in tandem by cave generation and the cave in, I recently fell from the top of a mountain straight to negative y levels of a deep dark biome, so naturally occurring cracks and openings to the surface are possible in mc generation, but also, if not already present it could be that the cave In exposed the deep dark to an open that lead to the sky up above

I hope Mojang release a trailer with disc 5 as the background music. It would be epic.

2:00 its that Sound when you hit something with an Arrow, Notifying the Player that something has been hit in Reverse.

You know that you need to put disc 5 first in then wait 6 sec and put disc 11 then wait 2 sec and finaly disc 13. Only then ou will understand the full meaning of it.