Solo String Library Comparison-Legato Solo String Libraries Vs Live Players Comparison. Part 1

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Comparing different Sampled Solo Strings Legato against each other and against live players.
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00:00 Prologue Talk
03:00 Track Preview
05:22 Live String Analysis
10:08 Spitfire Audio Solo Strings
15:30 Spitfire Audio Sacconi Quartet
19:37 Spitfire Audio Abbey Road 2 Solo Strings
22:13 Cinematic Studio Solo Strings
27:49 Cinesamples Cinestrings
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  • @PeteCalandra
    @PeteCalandra2 жыл бұрын

    Chapters: 00:00 Prologue Talk 03:00 Track Preview 05:22 Live String Analysis 10:08 Spitfire Audio Solo Strings 15:30 Spitfire Audio Sacconi Quartet 19:37 Spitfire Audio Abbey Road 2 Solo Strings 22:13 Cinematic Studio Solo Strings 27:49 Cinesamples Cinestrings 32:07 Postlude Talk

  • @Kingchord2000
    @Kingchord20002 жыл бұрын

    Very nice and detailed demo Pete! Thank you very much for sharing this:) More power to you Pete!

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lyndon. Thanks. Much appreciated!

  • @Orneredarn
    @Orneredarn Жыл бұрын

    Hi Pete! Wish all videos of this kind would be as informative as yours. Got my finger on the buy-button and this was what I needed to press it! :-D Many, many thanks for putting in the time and effort! Best! -O-

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and the comment!

  • @christopherrocky
    @christopherrocky2 жыл бұрын

    Such a beautiful piece, great double bass parts as well. Enjoyed it very much... I'm amazed that cinesamples solo strings is still one of the easiest libraries to fit into a mix. They have so much baked into the samples, they are really great! love your content

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. One of my violinist friends concurs with your assessment of Cinesamples. Tom Barney awesome bass player. Makes it easy to write!

  • @cjthomasmusic
    @cjthomasmusic2 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison! I own all of the Spitfire solo libraries (Alternative, Sacconi, Abbey Road Two, and Solo Strings). I think I find Solo Strings most inspiring, fun to play, and versatile. I grabbed Abbey Road Two for that dry, upfront sound which it does well but as you demonstrated not so much the lyrical. If I had a do-over, I probably would have just Solo Strings and AR2. I rarely ever grab Alternative or Sacconi. One thing I'm convinced of, however, is that when it comes to solo strings, samples still don't get close to the live thing. With large sections, you can really pull off a realistic sound. But it's hard to emulate the expressiveness of a real single player.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment CJ. I agree with you. I have the Alternative Strings as well. I typically find the patches with the ornaments really useful to give some random realism to a track. Thanks for watching!

  • @alontrigger
    @alontrigger Жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks!

  • @johnjoedaly
    @johnjoedaly2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Really helpful to have real live performances to compare the samples with. Sometimes I think I have the sound of live players locked in my head as a baseline comparison, but inevitably listening to samples 90% of the time, the memory reference gets blurred. It was soo useful when you jumped back to the live performances throughout the video 👍 Thank you soo much. Did part 2 ever happen? I didn't see it in your videos posted since this one.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Thanks for watching and the comment. Part 2 is on the schedule. My writing and teaching load right now has me a little swamped.

  • @marccaroul4123
    @marccaroul41232 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Pete. I love your videos. This one was especially good. Have you made the part 2 video yet for the first chairs? I am very interested in that but can't find it.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Marc. Thanks! I have that on the list but right now my teaching and writing schedules have me a bit swamped. Hopefully later this spring I can get to it!

  • @Nick.Magnus
    @Nick.Magnus Жыл бұрын

    Interesting comparison, Peter - thanks! BTW, the volume of portamento transitions in Cinematic Studio Solo Strings is at maximum by default, but it can be adjusted (downwards) with CC5. There are definitely moments (such as in Violin 1 at 26.17) when it's too loud, so being able to bury it a bit does help.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point and thanks for the info!

  • @aaronbird9437
    @aaronbird94372 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison!

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Aaron!

  • @IanBoccio
    @IanBoccio2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for putting in the work on this Pete! This is probably the most informative strings library comparison I’ve seen on KZread so far. Being able to compare with the live quartet was fantastic. I was shocked at how rough the Abbey Road sounded compared to all the others (I suppose it is about half the cost…). What kinds of compositions do you think that library shines on?

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian. Thanks for the question and watching, AR2 is a useful library. I have a few demo videos on my channel where i go thru it. That’s a better resource than an answer here.

  • @IanBoccio

    @IanBoccio

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PeteCalandra Thanks Pete! I watched all your videos on AR2 as suggested and I get what you’re saying. I suppose there’s just a fantasy for some of us (especially those of us with shallow pockets!) to find libraries that are like a Swiss Army knife, that can do the full range of what live players can do. Great channel man, I’m learning a lot!

  • @apocryphal_man
    @apocryphal_man2 жыл бұрын

    Very well done 👍🏻

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Massive!

  • @dhudson0001
    @dhudson00012 жыл бұрын

    Great Job! Chris Hein Solo Strings are also very good.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and the heads up about the CH Strings.

  • @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
    @russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Жыл бұрын

    Just noticed this is almost a year old, but it's a timely watch for me as I'm buying libraries for 2023. I love the Spitfire Solo Strings. I wasn't impressed by the Abbey Road library, although as you noted, this prob isn't the right context. They sounded like my Roland S-220 sampler from 1988. I just picked up Cinewinds Pro from Cinesamples and liked what you played of the Cinestrings. Thank you for this comparison, and I love the song you used!

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @1basketeveryday
    @1basketeveryday2 жыл бұрын

    Great work, would love to hear some LASS 3 or spitfire appassionata in one of your videos✨

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lennox. Thanks for watching. On part 2 of this video, LASS 3 First chairs are used as part of the presentation and i am also just starting to work on material for a SA Appassionata video... hopefully at some point next week i can have both videos up.

  • @1basketeveryday

    @1basketeveryday

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PeteCalandra thanks for replying, I look forward to watching the videos 💫

  • @joetowers4804
    @joetowers48042 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video. It's amazing how much can be accomplished with samples, although still not "quite there" if compared to the real thing. One question: do you usually write with live players in mind, or do you also write to the strengths of the libraries? I see samples as instruments and try to come up with stuff they can do. I'm just trying to start out with composing, and I like that approach since having real players wouldn't be feasible.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Joe. Thanks for watching. It's all project dependent. If i know in advance that i am writing for live players (like on this track) and it's for my personal project, I'm not too concerned with the midi mock up. It's just a place holder. If i am writing for a client and i know the mock up will have live elements, i write to the strengths of the samples (while keeping in mind people have to play what i am writing) so that i can get approval easier. If there are going to be no live players, i write treating the samples as unique instruments.

  • @TheUnderscore_
    @TheUnderscore_ Жыл бұрын

    8:35 Whoa, that almost sounds like an erhu. Beautiful!

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and the comment!

  • @yt1618ys
    @yt1618ys Жыл бұрын

    The Spitfire solos are great, but I still feel the violin is slightly wet. The airy quality of the Cremona Quartet by NI Is impressive. Hope can hear the differences if have the opportunity.

  • @ingowegener3277
    @ingowegener32772 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison, I’d go with the Spitfire solo strings. They are imo the one that have this live feeling and fits the best in context of the track. Not the most lyrical I think. Nice track btw.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Ingo!

  • @jakeskate1998
    @jakeskate19982 жыл бұрын

    wow, i was impressed with spitfire solo strings. I have it but i sometimes feel like sounds weird and synthy, maybe it just takes more experience to get them sounding good

  • @aleksandarstojceski3139
    @aleksandarstojceski3139 Жыл бұрын

    Didn't expect cinestrings to sound the best.

  • @ABOUTYOUmusic
    @ABOUTYOUmusic Жыл бұрын

    Awesome comparison, thank you, that helped a lot to choose one!! Even though probably nobody cares, here's my conclusion: For me Spitfire Solo Strings are not too great for several reasons, even though this "edge" at the beginning you mentioned is really adding to the realism. Sacconi Strings got a wonderful sound, but quite dark and a bit too soft for my taste. easy to change with some post i guess. Abbey Roads were the "worst" of the examples (still ok). The CSSS were also quite dark. at some point the didn't sound too real, i think it was mainly the end of the long notes, probably just needs a bit of more tweaks. The slurs were fantastic and when they all play together they got the most convincing ensemble sound. CineStrings were on a similiar level than abbey roads to me, except the violin. the violin was cool.. transitions in the cello just sounded off to me.. So i guess it is CSSS or Sacconi for me -> thank you Pete :)

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the thoughtful response!

  • @braunhausmedia
    @braunhausmedia2 жыл бұрын

    My apologies for pointing out Sample Modeling strings. It was a sincere post, not an ad and I'm sorry you felt the need to delete it. I have no affiliation with them and really think their solo strings are excellent.

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Thanks for the comment, I did not see the post about Sample Modeling Strings, Not sure what happened there....

  • @braunhausmedia

    @braunhausmedia

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PeteCalandra Ah, yes. KZread does that.

  • @OwenPrescott
    @OwenPrescott Жыл бұрын

    Anyone got any comparison to Audio Imperia Solo?

  • @PeteCalandra

    @PeteCalandra

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi... I do not have that library...

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