Good to see you taking one for the team with the taste test!

I wanna shake your hand one day sir. You have not only educated me but inspired me to keep thinking outside of that damn box. You are the OG of the light community. Please keep doing what YOU love and what we love!!!

What is not being considered here is space management. From looking at this with the fruit production, hydro seems to make less fruit in ratio to veg matter. If we were dealing with cannabis, this would require intense defoliation, pest control, lst, water and nutes, and extra heat to manage plants this size. If it were to come to scaling, you can put in about 4 times the soil plants in the same space constraints of one huge hydro plant and produce more fruit in total. Less nutes, less watering frequency and less vegetable matter to deal with. Trust me I am an aeroponics guy, but when it comes to efficiency and fruit per sq/m, i think you can scrog a bunch of smaller soil pots and get more than 1 or 2 huge hydros. If you do a hybrid beneficial bacteria soil mix with perlite and coco, you can get more frequent feeds and get a good balance between coco and soil. Basically I do this now using hydro nutes but with blended compost teas. Amazing product.

@noway8233

9 ай бұрын

Yeah yuo are ritgh , but its a very good experiment of how change the potencial grow just changing the media of the grow

@AlJa-rb5hj

3 ай бұрын

Not really, as most of these differences can be affected by Crop Steering tech, using different EC, room and feed temps, night temps, you can make the plants grow how you want them. Google a few guides, it is a fascinating subject

@user-nq1nh8xx1u

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but the weed can't produce the terps in soil compared to hydro

@NotHumant8727

2 ай бұрын

Egh no lol. You yust flip them to flower earliear before they grow out of controll and minimising efficency. in that experiment plants were much to big for that tent and light to efficently produce more fruit.

@kabn131

Ай бұрын

​@@user-nq1nh8xx1u What do you mean exactly? Why should you get less of them in soil?

Hi Shane IV been enjoying watching the results of this test.Amazed how different the results are. Thanks for OPENING OUR 👀👁️. TAKE CARE SIR

Hydro will always provide the greatest return. Most people think it is more work, but i strongly disagree. Solid content. Thanks Shane!

@cooller8888

11 ай бұрын

it requires more work initially and a lot of patience before you get into the topic and understand everything you need too (EC, pH, etc). BUT after you reach that level of knowledge you definitely have way less work and way fewer things to be stressed about.

@stevep4236

11 ай бұрын

@@cooller8888 Same for coco....soil is more forgiving than the other 2

@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis

11 ай бұрын

it's less work and absolutely no fun

@jeroid123

11 ай бұрын

i just switched from dwc to coco, i loved dwc it was super fun and i was doing really well with it but i was getting tired of hauling buckets of water around and realized how much i liked the feel of watering by hand, i def recommend DWC it was a great time. Remember tho Coco is hydro its just hydro that looks like your using soil

@cooller8888

11 ай бұрын

@@f_youtubecensorshipf_nazis no fun? you can feed your plants exactly what you want, it's literally the best you can do for plant life and this ain't fun to you? :D

Hey Shane, really appreciate the effort dedicated to doing this. Cheers man! Also, I am enjoying viewing all the different ways people are giving their input.

@MIGROLIGHT

11 ай бұрын

Thanks

@GMT439

7 ай бұрын

@@MIGROLIGHT Video for you to prove wrong with actual FACTS : kzread.info/dash/bejne/ioNhybNrZ6q3j7w.html

This was one of the best tests I’ve seen with plants, thanks Shane. This video was also super funny when you ate the pepper.

Good on ya for biting into that chili! These videos are pure gold, next light I'll buy will definitely be migro, your work on this channel is bar none the best out there when it comes to lights and growing 😊

Loyal to the soil 💯Living soil

@BossTweed69

7 ай бұрын

You need to try hydro, it's 100% better and easier to right any wrongs.

@gavincooke1982

6 ай бұрын

@@BossTweed69 You need to run soil, Quality over quantity each and every time. Ran hydro for over 9yrs and have ran soil side by side for last 2yrs now. Organics hands down. if yield is all you're after then fair enough hydro it is. but not if end product quality is your aim.

@republicfryslan

5 ай бұрын

Ive grown weed in both and i can say is for quantity you take hydro for taste and quality you take soil

@levis569

4 ай бұрын

​@@gavincooke1982what about coco?What soil do you use?

@autismion

3 ай бұрын

@@gavincooke1982 Ever try compost tea hydro?

Outstanding Professor thank you. ( thanks for the taste test and taking one for the team !)

Thanks for the great content,the smile at the end also. Can’t wait for the co2 chill grow

Coco & organic dry amendments for me.. done both the yield is less organically but the taste is superior just my opinion.. thank for the test 👍

hello Shane, I just want to say thank you for your work, your sharing, your honesty and for the human being that you are! I imagine you already know that, so thank you, I've been following you for quite a while now, I also bought one of your Aray 8 lamps (which I find incredibly effective, I had excellent results, welldone sir) and I will surely take the last 5x5. Thanks again and ALL MY RESPECT!! sorry for my English I am Portuguese and live in Switzerland, but a "human being" above all.

Thank you Shane - it was yourself that got me to try coco and it's now my fave indoor medium.

these are the videos I enjoy watch, pure honesty and non bias. you got a SUB!!

Amazing testing ! a lot of information packed in Thank you for putting in all that work to make this video happen.

You overwatered the soil one all the way through , purple stems couldn't uptake mag end of flower everyone does , you over vegged the hydro one too but you did well on the other variables. Good stuff 👏

@Hansen710

2 ай бұрын

exacly soil grown likes to dry out.. and all that green have nothing to do with producing big yields of flower/fruit that have more to do with the vegetative phase, then it have to do with bud production

@ewok7075

Ай бұрын

@@Hansen710peppers do not have a flower a veg stage

@ska042

11 күн бұрын

Yeah what do you mean "over vegged", there is no light cycle change when growing peppers. They're not photoperiodic, they work more like autoflower cannabis.

Thank you for sharing your results and comparison, Great video!

Another great video, I loved the taste test brother!

That was epic. Thank you very much Shane.

Great content and very thorough! Keep it up Shane, you are treasured among this community!

@pedrocapelaa

11 ай бұрын

you took the words outta my mouth. This guy is a life savier, bringer of knowledge and honesty!😅 Thank you

@WhiteHatzz

11 ай бұрын

Agreed both your comments..

Great Test Shane, I loved hydro but it can be finicky. I run pure COCO but feed like hydro Oxygenating your solution really helps.

Great stuff. Thanks, Shane. I'd love to see a test with coco in all three tents, varying the fertigation frequencies.

@jameswarfield6477

7 ай бұрын

Same here

@erikfreezer6282

5 ай бұрын

With coco drain to waste is best.

Really enjoyed these videos/series. Look forward to your next series 👌👍

Your efforts are much appreciated. I am looking forward to the co2 test. Thanks

Well, that was illuminating. Looking forward to the next, Thanks Shane

Keep up the great work bro 😎🤙🇺🇲 much love from Pennsylvania 🥳

You are a National Treasure, mate.

I've been watching your content for a little bit, and first of all, I'd like to thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. You definitely earned my subscription after you ate that pepper 🌶 🤣 I'm new to gardening so my opinion on which is best doesn't hold any validity but I I'm really after quality as opposed to quantity. I guess I'll learn more as I go. Thank you!

@MIGROLIGHT

11 ай бұрын

Thanks

ha ha ha the hiccups brilliant!!!!! Lots of love from Limerick lads! Love your lights and videos.

@MIGROLIGHT

3 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

This is a fantastic channel and your objective and scientific approach to this entire thing is spot on. I wish more companies did business like you do, thanks for all the content.

@MIGROLIGHT

3 ай бұрын

thanks for the feedback :)

I just found this channel, I’m so glad I did! 😁

Very illustrative, and thanks for the testing in the end ;-))

Great ending. I just received my Uni-T meter and used it with the app for the first time yesterday. Let's just say I needed to make some changes to systems I've had in place for years. That tool is fantastic. Now I just need to complete my conversion to a hydro setup...

Excellent side by side experiment, Shane. The taste test at the end was truly epic. Thanks for the education and the comedy.

shane you're the best!

I had plants in soil root as much as your hydro , the root system was that well developed that you could have removed it from the pot and used it to smash a double glazing window and no soil would have been left on the floor, type of soil and bacteria/ fungi is key with soil more than coco and hydro.

@gasser5001

3 ай бұрын

If you’ve never grown hydro, I could see where you would think this. Hydro root masses are unmatched. Not just the density but their actual strength. I’ve been able to basically make ropes from some of the roots from my tomatoes.

@aychemara

15 күн бұрын

@@gasser5001 now do this outdoors and see the difference, wasting electricity indoor growing. Going to to have root rot doing hydro outdoors unless you run a water chiller. More electricity use again.

Well done Shanè both on the grow and trying to handle that chill 😂

Thank you so much for this!

good run, nice results, thanks for doing it.

good lord, that hydro setup went crazy!

Thanks Shane!!!!

Well done and much appreciated!

Good stuff, CO² will be interesting. I'm keen on living soil for: *The low environmental impact *Cheap as I can make most inputs & dont replace media *Time effective, water and a couple of top dresses Running those tests 4 times in the exact same media with fert you have made on site I think would have very different results.

I primarily grow with coco on a flood and drain table. For the beginning of my grows fertigating once a day is enough. When they start reaching the walls, I double the fertigation amount. So instead of 2-3 times a day I do 4-6 times a day. This improved my yields. I don't have any proof other than my notes though. Not sure if you have done this but it was a significant improvement in my yields on coco.

@UbiquitousRomp

11 ай бұрын

I view my coco as semi hydro and if moister is 1-5 I like to keep it above 2. Top water for the first 4 weeks on autos, then bottom feed for the remainder

@green285

11 ай бұрын

I think you'll find better results with drain to waste, it's not much more water/nutrients usage. That way you always have the same strength solution each fertigation.

@hazardouschurch1

11 ай бұрын

@green285 I would spend more time making nutrient solutions that way. I have done drain to waste in the past. While you can get it perfect with drain to waste, my plants don't seem to mind the variation of flood and drain. You can still apply the same principles to drain to waste, though. Although using double the nutrients used is double the work to make them. Having the ability to walk away from the tent for a week or two is my goal. I may revist drain to waste but would want a mixing robot for the nutes. It's getting built and programmed now but will take time. Im documenting my journey. I don't know when a video will be out for it. When I started hydroponics A and B nutrients were new. I'm probably just stuck in my own ways. I change my res every two weeks on a schedule. I also top off with fresh solution.

@bemat5220

11 ай бұрын

@@hazardouschurch1 I mix nutes about every 3 days and drain to waste with about a 10% run off. Flush every 3rd feeding.

@timpage5021

11 ай бұрын

@@hazardouschurch1 dos-a-tron for the delivery of nutrients but it can be pricey up front cost. But pays for itself in no time

love it, going through the pain of eating the chillis .... Test from seed to tasting them

I was watching an interview with the head of the "L.A. Cannabis Co", established in 2007, on FCP02(Future Cannabis Project - Channel 02). From a few weeks ago titled "The state of The Cannabis Industry in California", I believe. Around the 44:50 mark, he mentions changing the facility from Hydro, using Rockwool, to using Living Soil in 5 gallon fabric pots. They've completed about 30% of the conversion, and a primary reason for it was an increase of 30-40% at harvest for individual plants. It's near the end, at that time mark, above, when they finally get into changing the facility, and the differences are spoken about. A very interesting little 10-15 min talk on the differences they've found (starting around the 44:50 mark), right before the end. That's the most recent "research" I've heard on larger yields with Living Soil, and very interesting. Thanks again, Shane!👍💯🙏✌️

@gavincooke1982

6 ай бұрын

Problem is most growers will try living soil for a couple of runs and compare it to hydro and give up. living soil just keeps getting better and better, with each harvest you see quality and quantity increases and after 4/5 runs it surpasses hydro. those just looking for a quick turn over and high yields just wont see the benefits instantly and won't stick with it, which is a shame because once soil is dialled in its effortless runs. I still run hydro but that yield makes it's way to others jar's, my organics stay with me.

@khaitomretro

5 ай бұрын

​@@gavincooke1982Look at the yield of product here v useless leaf. He could have fitted 2 more plants in the soil tent and doubled the weight of chillis. That already beats the Coco and hydro crops that filled the tents with leaf.

Great work Shane as per usual, can I ask how often did you change the water in the dwc buckets .

Pot size is more important in soil, especially the living variety, also needs more time in veg, Mr Canucks grow is a good resource, Also, i don't think anyone in the comments has said soil will beat coco or hydro, they just said that this soil based plant is not living up to its potential, Blumat digital moisture sensors are an incredibly useful tool to avoid under or over watering

@notbeefyproductions7109

11 ай бұрын

Look at some of the best grows in the world,The large super massive plants are outside in soil..Hydro and coco just cannot replicate that.

@graemebuchan1919

11 ай бұрын

@@notbeefyproductions7109 exactly, i spent many years around outdoor grows in Cambodia and have had many arm size buds that defy physics and taste like biting into a fresh mango

@nate6748

11 ай бұрын

totes agree. those soil plants would have yielded waaaay more w/blumats, baby!

@graemebuchan1919

11 ай бұрын

@@nate6748 i just started using the blumat digital sensor this week, it's so useful i can't imagine not having it already

thanks for the upload. it helps

Great work again mate 👍

@MIGROLIGHT

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Super amazing video!

Thanks Shane

Awesome video. very informative and useful and well done. thank you for making the video!

@MIGROLIGHT

3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it :)

Another excellent scientific investigation

Best video proof I've seen that hydro outperforms the competition.

Thanks, great vid. The end though was a proper LOL...

Love it nice work, Shane

Thank you for that ending🤣🤣🤣🤣great experiment too🙌🏿

I think the reason Hydro wins over the coco is because the hydro system can grow much larger root mass, in the coca there is only so much room available for growth also the roots are getting oxygenated water and the coca isn't. I love growing in Hydro and if your goal is large yield and less pests hydro is the way to go

Coco always produced the best yields for me and the best product. I had more control over nutrient uptake and never got locked. Huge root base.

Hey Chili Klaus, good video👌

Excellent content! Can’t wait for Co2 tests. Do you know what the horses eat? As hay that’s fed to them can be full of pesticides stunting growth. Just a thought

Loved the tasting at the end, a few more and Chili Klaus will be proud

You rock!

Awesome content ! Subed !

The plants went full Jurassic Park in the hydro tent.

Great experiment. Would you consider a DWC vs Areoponic vs Fogponic grow? Thanks again for this.

Clackamoots living soil with a swick setup can get coco like results. The only evidence is go to the forums and see the results. Hydros will always be yield king but the others will be close. Not everyone has the time, space or money to do such expirements so good on you and thank you!

Great video and really detail. There only one thing i didnt agree with is the result. If you are doing a compar from soil, coco and hydro then you should use the same nutrients for all three madium to get the right end result.

@MIGROLIGHT

11 ай бұрын

Did that the last test but this one was bout organic soil with organic nutrients vs hydro methods with synthetic. The point is to compare different inputs

Thanks 😊

this video is really insightfull for me, thanks for the effort

That hydro plant is very impressive when it comes to size. I'm surprised the light didn't burn the plant more that close to the light!In the end synthetics will always win in size.I've learned not to eat animals/food from most stores with all the synthetics crap added to them because it causes health issues so I wont use it in my plants, if I'm going to consume them. The taste test was the best part of the video I just wish you ate the other two.also chili peppers are probably hard to do a taste test with because of the heat that lingers in your mouth for so long. Thank you for taking your free time in doing these videos for us.

Considering you're not going to eat the leaves, I'd say given the ratio of fruit to foliage weight, soil is the winner. You could have grown 4 in soil, equaled the yield, taken up less space along with probably less nutrients and water, less work overall, and less plant waste to dispose of.

@NotHumant8727

2 ай бұрын

No lol. The tent and light is much to small for plant of this size to produce more fruit. In hydro you can flip plant much sooner, before it grows out of control like in case like this chillis lol. Hydro is win win there is absolutley no debate.

@jlandry117

2 ай бұрын

@@NotHumant8727 lol, then you're using too much nitrogen for a crop such as chilis. Lol

I have been fretting because I cannot garden as I do not get enough sun. I have been thinking to try hydroponics in my garage to supplement my food supply but had doubts as to the yield since this is for survival, not a hobby and I won't be bothering with lettuce or the other easy-to-grow tomatoes etc that most do. I am interested in growing root crops if possible using aeroponics and grow towers to get more crop space out of the garage footprint. Haha. I cannot handle those peppers raw like that. You are a brave soul and cute too!

Coco makes a grown man cry! As a pepper grower myself, I wonder how has the polination been done and rate of success for each. Thanks Shane for your work, sweat and tears! ;)

@basilroland

11 ай бұрын

Comment right from the trenches.

@MIGROLIGHT

11 ай бұрын

In shook each plant every other day to spread the pollen around but that was all. The majority of the flowers produced fruit.

@coloradodirtbike5930

11 ай бұрын

Peppers are self pollinating I thought?

@educaracas726

11 ай бұрын

@@coloradodirtbike5930 nope, they need a little push, wind or bees, indoor requires shaking, or swab intervention (IMHO this last one resulting in better results)

@coloradodirtbike5930

11 ай бұрын

@@educaracas726 have you ever grown super hots indoors? I heard some people say it's a waste of time, just wondering if it's possible.

U should do a organic super soil mix instead of those junk organic bottles

@und3rmind_

11 ай бұрын

100%

I grow soil ( outdoors ) but then I'm not 100% organic. I'll amend the soil with slow release mostly organic fertilizer and at the peak of growth i'll supplement with Floranova grow/bloom. It's my unprofessional opinion that the organic soil grow could have had better results. I'm fully in agreement that hydro can't be beat as far as nutriment availability is concerned. You could probably make the mix a little hotter.

Really awesome video! Thank you for putting it together! I wonder if you put just one plant in your hydro(maybe you did) and then bent it side ways so each of the first branches becomes a stalk. Each stalk has branches would that allow the chillis to mature at the same rate as soil and coco. I am thinking at least some light on the chillis helps them to mature .. ?

nice test , Im sure Biobizz & Ecothrive will be rather pissed about the results I use Ecothrive products & they are excellent so I dont think its a reflection of what they do . Results talk loud & nice one for doing this & enjoy your chillies 😎

Cool! Pretty sure that's a watering/irrigation issue, not a soil issue. Use blumats next time!

Awesome video thanks for that, so it seems clear to me that the coco is the way to go. Soil had a 49% yield when comparing fruit from plant mass so from a space point of view its a clear winner. Then the coco has a 26% yield when compared to plant mass needed to grow the chillies and they are the best ripened fruit. Compared to a significantly lower 17% yield for the hydro, and the fruit need a good bit longer to mature. So I can get better fruit in a shorter time and use less space if I go with coco. Thanks for helping me figure this out.

Mad man!

Imo it's a win for the coco. A manageable plant & canopy with well developed fruits and the highest sugar content.

lol that was awesome shane

very cool!! thanks for sharing :)

Cracked me up at the end there

I made the switch to hydro, not only is it super fun, but it’s a fraction of the work as soil. And my god, your plants just explode with growth

@aychemara

15 күн бұрын

Have fun with the ph pen and EC meters. Wait till you have to get a water chiller cause of water temps. Here in California too hot to run that and electricity expensive. Indoor growing is not an option anymore. Living soil outdoors just have to water, soil buffers the PH. Top dress dry amendments 1 time every month for Veg.

@TheLittleSpoon1982

15 күн бұрын

@@aychemara been doing it over a year, no EC pen, I do use a PH pen but it was 11 dollars on Amazon. For nutrients I just use general hydroponics flora macro. It’s cheap, lasts a full harvest and that’s it. No RO water, no PPM checks. I have never had to worry about water temps either. I have my tent in my HVAC room of my house. My air from the tent gets pumped out of the room. The air for the buckets come from an air pump that’s outside the tent so it’s not pumping hot air into the water, for instance it was 105 the other day in Missouri. Nada problem. Almost 90% of the stuff you see in here is bullshit bro science. It’s a plant, and a very easy one to grow at that.

Dam, hydroponics is beyond impressive.

@superkoopatrooper4879

11 ай бұрын

In my experience, if you put peppers in smaller pots, they veg for a shorter amount of time and start producing fruits earlier and less of them. The entire plant kinda stays small. In larger pots, the plants veg longer and develop fruits later and ripen a lil later. That's just my experience with peppers in particular. Maybe the plant just has an easier time rooting out in coco and hydro, thus vegging longer?

😂 it look like it punched you in the face with hotness great video can’t wait for the next episode

This mirrors my experience as well, now the question of different hydros bubbler vs aero vs others, the jury is still out but I think the differences are not that large so I tend to go with the easiest technique which is bubbler.

I've just finished my most succesful grow yet in soil - using Plagron Batmix with Canna bio nutes with a little Guano top dressing 2/3 thru the grow....! Curious that the soil faired so poorly in the test - started off well...!

I had to give it a thumbs up just for that last 20 seconds. LOL

I grow tomatoes on Canna soil and do 500 grams of dry material per square meter. Personally I am not fond of Biobizz fertilizers because they leave too much to the imagination. I always use Bio Nova. And looking at the size those plants should not have had any fertilizers so likely were overfed. Also you need to keep the soil very moist, just not so much that the roots are always under water. I plant 16 tomatoes per square meter in 11 to 14 liter pots and after 2 weeks of flower I water every 48 hours with runoff that the plants must take up in 24 hours. It's a little slower than hydro but much better end product.

Solid content. I think the hydro probably needed another week or so for the fruit to finish up.

Living soil yielded so much compared to the other two in fruit, considering it looked to be several times smaller. Is that not evidence of there being something special there? (Genuine question I'm learning with you). Also the fruits being ready and starting to mature faster. This is what I would have expected, the only surprise to me was how close the yield of LSO was to the other two given the size difference. I definitely think hydro can produce as good fruit as LSO, it just seems to be easier to get super smelly sweet fruits from LSO, especially when using special soil mixes with mycorhizzal fungi and worm juices. I really don't know, but as a layman when I get some well cared for soil that's rich with life it seems to always produce very tasty fruit, my attempts at hydro have been fine, but it has felt like a trade of on quality for yield, probably because I don't know how to feed it properly. I want to do more of both for fun. This was really cool to see, thank you.

@ottoflouer1750

9 ай бұрын

If you tested the nutrient density of the fruits you would be picking the soil grown every time, as well as some people think they can feed a plant they'll never be able to feed it as well as the plant can itself. You can force a plant to do whatever you want with chemicals but most times it's an inferior product when it comes to any markers besides appearance

What a guy! Since I switched from soil to coco my rather restricted space looks more like the hydro setup did here when it comes to chop time. If I went hydro I'd run completely out of headroom and blow the bleeding roof off! I've got a nice new light coming for better coverage and increased headroom and I'm looking into Blumats now for some coco watering "automation". I'm sticking with coco. I like that I can treat it a bit like soil with the ability to use organic supplements and beneficial microbes etc. along with the dry powder nutrient mix I use. The quality of product, convenience and stealth are every bit as important as yield to me and so far coco is ticking my boxes nicely.

In defense of the organic soil, TRUE organic living soil is almost 100% hands off. The worms and aminos do all the work. Coco needs watered sometimes several time per day and you are always fighting against calcium and pH problems. Hydro needs a 4-year degree in molecular biology to pull off successfully and you are at the mercy of the mechanical setup. I would also like to see the nutritional content of each broken down. My money is on the organic being almost double the other two. I know I was being factitious, but I stand by what I said.

@Ufkatuale

2 ай бұрын

"Hydro needs a 4-year degree in molecular biology to pull off successfully and you are at the mercy of the mechanical setup." Wrong

@7munkee

2 ай бұрын

@@Ufkatuale I guess you told me, huh?

Nice job

Organic living soil is the way to go if your goal is the highest quality product.