Software Engineer Salaries... How much do programmers make?
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After I got a degree in chemical engineering, I saw how much software engineers make, taught myself for a few months, and got a 120k job working remotely. This is the industry. All others can't even come close to comparing.
@PeacefulKnight
2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing! Congrats, that’s a hell of an accomplishment
@branlynmorales8951
2 жыл бұрын
How can you make 120k with only months of self taught? That’s even more than someone with a degree lol
@omnipotentiq
2 жыл бұрын
@@branlynmorales8951 well its tech tbh alot of demand and little supply
@omnipotentiq
2 жыл бұрын
@@branlynmorales8951espically now when companies are trying to go meta
@Gideonrex1
2 жыл бұрын
@@branlynmorales8951 I mean, I’m a full stack dev and now I’m transitioning to a more dev ops role in my company working with gcp. I learn quicker than most people, and my employer kind of took a gamble on me based off how much I was able to teach myself in a few months. From the beginning though, the stuff they were having me do was pretty senior.
What he doesn't mention is that getting a job as a software engineer at Google is kind of like getting into Harvard or Stanford.
@yeetyot9020
3 жыл бұрын
why?
@anuros1507
3 жыл бұрын
@@yeetyot9020 g o o g l e
@yeetyot9020
3 жыл бұрын
@@anuros1507 i mean, is it to do with qualifications? Or quite literally because g o o g l e
@SheOnEarth
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! My friends who did their internship at Google didnt manage to get a full time position afterwards, and they were some of the top students in our year at university!
@SheOnEarth
3 жыл бұрын
Dmon1Unlimited That’s so true! If you’re lucky enough they’ll get to look at your CV. Yes my friends were very lucky! That’s a really good thing to have on their CVs. They both got full time positions with Microsoft later! They were practicing interview questions for 6 months!
Went from practical information to a full on philosophical exploration. Good advice for someone who is quite jaded when it comes to the software giants and silicon valley, thanks TechLead!
I love the conclusion, very inspiring words
TechLead should appear in an episode of Silicon Valley
@fordhebner8001
4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for TechLead to get fired from Hooli so he can introduce himself as the ex-google, ex-facebook ex-Hooli TechLead!
@jamesh4129
4 жыл бұрын
He should replace Jin Yang. And I love Jin Yang
@tahsinamio2639
4 жыл бұрын
@@fordhebner8001 But but... Hooli is now owned by Pied Piper. So Ex Pied Piper too
@MidniteSon
4 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome...except he should be introduced as "The Tech Lead" when Pied Piper needs an expert coder to fix Middle Out Compression Algorithm.
@masternobody1896
4 жыл бұрын
its still 2019
This is the fatherly advice I needed. I’m only 17 but I’m so conscious of my future. I don’t have a dad and my mum is abusive, an alcoholic and manipulative. I pretty much look after my 3 younger siblings by myself and although I love my siblings I really hope one day I will be able to have a good job and be financially able to help my siblings out. I’m working 2 jobs at the moment so I can try and save up the money to better my education and start a good career as a software engineer.
@ishanstuff
4 жыл бұрын
Really inspiring to hear. Keep fighting the fight.
@aasavarikakne3655
3 жыл бұрын
Wish all your wishes come true!
@burhanshah5855
3 жыл бұрын
my prayers with you strong guy.
@ngyang5113
3 жыл бұрын
I m sure you will make it
@pastaface9966
3 жыл бұрын
Keep pushing buddy. It gets better.
I watch these types of videos daily as a continuous form of motivation as attaining a computer science degree is not easy. I’ve switched majors many times now so there’s no giving up now, I’m in too deep. Thank you for this video!
@ike2938
2 жыл бұрын
How are you doing now?
@notyourneighbour2140
2 жыл бұрын
What's up
@mrk.8448
2 жыл бұрын
1 year howre u doing?
@omarkiller2222
2 жыл бұрын
It's time for your mother to open herself up for me to enter violently
@sw00t_yprd79
Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life no one goes to The Father except through him.
All I heard was "you can pay your student loans with a 3 month internship."
@raffi4330
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot about daddy state
@basedworldsk8
4 жыл бұрын
@Sunamer Z I could quite literally pay off my loan with any 3 month internship. I went to community college and did well only have to pay 14k when I graduate. ^_^
@Jonathan-od5xc
4 жыл бұрын
@Sunamer Z Good point!! Bravo
@basedworldsk8
4 жыл бұрын
also you ever heard of commuting bruh lol
@andrewmowbray7035
4 жыл бұрын
Sunamer Z median household income San Fran is still 100k a year. People who say you “can’t survive” there on 150k are drama queens or full of BS. What you really mean is “try living a comfortable upper middle class life on 150k like you can literally anywhere else in the world.” “Try surviving on 150k” give me a break dude
I wasn’t sure if I wanted to become a software engineer but that was before he mentioned free coffee
This was great info because you were so specific with the numbers! This is going to help me negotiate better.
Thanks for including that information at the end. People need to hear it.
Interesting take on salaries and locations. But I've got to say, I LMAO at the "kids just squander it in Vegas" offhand remark.
That ending though. Inspirational and inspired existential dread.
Love your commentary. Always informative, funny and so easy to listen to. Supreme intellect!
I find this video extremely motivating for studying for technical interviews
The last part of the video was some of the best advice ever given on this channel.
Me as an european hearing this salaries: WTF
@ezwalduzumaki3161
4 жыл бұрын
true in germany senior google devs make about 165k yearly. in the states that would be about 400k yearly. but still costs of living matters too
@mob1235
4 жыл бұрын
And dont forget that you can subtract about 45% income taxes + extra social security contributions. And if you want to spend your money, then 19% sales tax.
@mikev324
4 жыл бұрын
@@mob1235 Those 45% income taxe + social security.. do you mean in the US or in Europe you pay that much? I know income taxes are high in Europe but thought they were lower in the US or not? How much are taxes in the US?
@mob1235
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikev324 I meant Germany. For example a software engineer earns 80k. That means 40k net. A new house costs about 600k Euros. A medium class car 40k Euros. There is such a big gap in wealth, nobody talks about in media. But the Germans are used to this communism.
@eliseumds
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikev324 taxes are pretty high in California as well, and you get much less bang for your buck. Saying that, I'd take 400k in SF instead of 165k in Germany any day. In Germany it's much easier to reach the top tax bracket. Effective tax rate ends up being smaller in places like California or Australia.
I come for the general wisdom on life, relationships and the simple everyday... I know nothing about software engineering, tech etc (I'm a chemist), but really value and appreciate your content. You should do more videos on general life advice, personal growth etc that has nothing whatsoever to do with coding. These seem to be your most popular posts and bring the new subscribers in. Thanks.
@dholga1970
4 жыл бұрын
hudson701 I agree. Techlead (as a millionaire) is great at musings on life
@dawidwojda3996
4 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in this type of videos I recommend you check out actualized.org. Preferably starting with the older vidoes because the new ones could freak you out :P
Very inspiring! Thanks! I've come to similar idea. When you cross a boundary of income and you can afford cars, vacation, entertainment, then "time" becomes most valuable thing. You don't have time to spend that money to get satisfaction and joy from it.
Only in software engineering: “At MID CAREER, after 3 or 4 years
@charlesmcdowell9436
4 жыл бұрын
Granted it takes alot just to get recognized as a software engineer in the first place at 100k.
@einCAA
4 жыл бұрын
At least in germany, before you start as a Software Engineer, you usually do get your Master degree in computer science.. so we are going to the 10 years mark, if you include those years.
@antonalexandrov4159
4 жыл бұрын
@@elvitos Depends which uni. All the professors at mine are people who have either done a crazy amount of research or worked in tech. It is certainly not time wasted, you can see all those "self-taught programmers" do front-end or some other kind of bs web dev. For people who want to work on actual tech, like Data Science, Digital Forensics, Fault-tolerant systems, Cyber Security... you must have at least a bachelors. Also people should stop thinking that the university or even school for that matter is intended to teach you how to live your life or how to work properly. University is for academia and research, if you want to learn how to work on a very specific task with a specific technical stack you go on and work. I am not trying to change your mind, I am just giving another perspective.
@lorep7412
4 жыл бұрын
@@elvitos In Romania it is much better. All my computer science profs were also employed at IT companies or owning some companies. So 80% of what we learned was easy to apply during work. Also, they understood that students want to work so around 90% of the students were also working (usually 6h / day). So when I finished my masters degree at 23 years old in Software Engineering I was already having almost 4 years of experience in my field. Also, you can learn programming during high school, usually we learn different algorithms and problems that appear in interviews at Google, Facebook, etc. and university is more oriented at learning how to program in an IT company. Almost nobody will be a researcher, which is a bit of a pity, but for work it is optimal. Happy I studied in Romania, now I work in Germany. :)
@fahyen6557
4 жыл бұрын
@akashic seer dumb
I enjoy and LEARN something new with each of your videos! Keep up the good work!
This guy speaks wisdom waaaay beyond his years. After about 300-350k/year in the US, you have diminishing returns relative to input effort and lifestyle sacrifice. This is mainly due to taxes as he said of ~50%. Then you buy a 1965-ish house in Si Valley or the Peninsula where your annual property tax is at least $25-30k a year or more (basically paying for a new Honda annually). In the end your lifestyle affordability is the same as someone who makes 250-300k/y. Not worth squandering your life so your grandkids can marry some stranger you don't like who will inherit your house. Sad but true.
@MigzXP
3 жыл бұрын
most millionaires have more than one stream of income. Coders don't have to only do coding.
@moreasmorebaes4898
2 жыл бұрын
@@MigzXP Diversifying your income stream is very important, but for developers the time consumption makes it hard, not saying I havent seen people do so.
@whiskey4609
2 жыл бұрын
wisdom
Watched this video at the right time. Very informative and useful, thanks! Now I can make a better choice
I love this mans videos... too the point and honest..... Thank you
Just started programming 4 months ago and I have been consistent and doing very good but in these couple of weeks I had lost motivation but after watching this I feel like I can do it. Thanks for the your motivating words!!
@markomclane475
3 жыл бұрын
What did you start off with?
@threadpool2923
2 жыл бұрын
It becomes an enjoyable passion when you can do it without thinking about what you're doing 👌
@JegErN0rsk
2 жыл бұрын
How are you keeping up?
@tony31349
2 жыл бұрын
I guess you don’t love it if you stop doing it only few months
@juliodon8103
2 жыл бұрын
Cause you're doing it for money that's not your passion
I really like what you said about the mid level software devs and being independent on their tasks. I have a comp sci degree with about 2 years of java professional experience, that's the level I want to operate on. Respect to you for making it this far in your career.
Very profound. Thank you for sharing your insights.
That's some great advice man! both about applying to good-paying jobs and about choosing for a healthy lifestyle. And you're right, I thought software engineers made about 80-100k so I was shocked to hear what those companies pay but then, they're the big dogs. Anyways, good video man, thanks
@thetechconsultant
2 жыл бұрын
You’re right. The typical companies pay out between 65k - 185k. He’s only talking about the FAANG companies.
8:42 hearing that warms my heart, especially after I couldn't get O-1, EB-1 and H1-B visas to move to Silicon Valley to work on FAANG companies... Instead, I'm still working remotely in a small cool startups, paying low taxes (6%) and traveling the world 🌏
I love your videos and just signed up for AlgoPro!! I'm excited to learn more about data structures and algorithms from you and Joma!! Thanks for all of your hard work!
I just wanna say thank you for the advice im really looking forward to this new journey ill begin soon.
Love the ending meant more to me than the whole video and the video was informational.
This is one of the best video that ‘Tech Lead’ made 👍
You should add (as a millionaire). Otherwise it's just doesn't come off as narcissistic.
@noobmaster9980
3 жыл бұрын
Now he puts it in every videos lol, thanks to you
@samsfog3591
3 жыл бұрын
He actually did it lmaoo
@jenniferwiebusch9688
2 жыл бұрын
Is this where it all started??
Thanks for the honesty Techlead. I just subscribed and I smashed the like button 👍
It’s all about lifestyle choices. I live in the Midwest. Here, I can make a gigantic impact on the local businesses through quality software consulting. My dad probably made $60k at his peak (definitely averaged closer to $40k) and we lived on 160 acres. Decently close to a world-class university and a nice city, a round trip day drive to 3 different metropolitan areas, etc.
@firacingast
Жыл бұрын
Urbana-Champagne?
I love your videos. I'm really considering moving from IT to Software engineering. I have always been interested in coding, and since I've been watching your videos I'm really inspired to make the switch. I'm gonna sign up for your course. Thank you for everything you do sir!
@migkillerphantom
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you in IT to begin with? Probably because your IQ is too low.
@sunnyk2723
4 жыл бұрын
migkillerphantom wtf is wrong with you
@su1t0n11
2 жыл бұрын
@@migkillerphantom superiority problems 😂
Haha love your videos Techlead. Brutal honesty dripping with humour and sarcasm. What's not to love :)
Great video!! Love the info and the perspective on lifestyle
awesome insight and impactful advice, really gave a lot to consider
The last advice literally changed my view toward my career . I'm no more a greedy . Thanks a lot Sir for sharing your personal views . 🌷🌷
Wow. my sister told me about software engineering just yesterday and I kinda already wanted to be one when i grow up, but now hearing these salaries, I'm extra encouraged to be one!
@roadkilledpigeon
Жыл бұрын
You still trying to do it?
@3lvin
Жыл бұрын
@@roadkilledpigeon lmao yeah
@roadkilledpigeon
Жыл бұрын
@@3lvin nice, keep at it. I'm currently in a pretty early learning stage rn myself
@3lvin
Жыл бұрын
@@roadkilledpigeon yeah same lol, had my first computer science class last year 10th grade, taking 2 these year, I’m really excited and really enjoyed them
Good advice man. This is the best video i've seen by you.
Got fired up again.. thanks techlead
it would be nice if you teach us more technical stuff, like programming paradigms and patterns.
That's a lot more than I thought. I'm in the 60K range, but I'm SQA. Looking to get into Software Engineering or Systems Analyst.
@eddiemao3527
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same here, mind if I ask your progress of your plan? I’m taking classes online right now after work.. and trying some projects
@AH-zz6sc
4 жыл бұрын
He's clearly mentioning top tier of SE, that's maybe 5% of the total work force. Average SE salary in the US is somewhere close to 100k. Most conversations on SE salaries end up using these inflated numbers. When in fact the median SE salaries are closer to what you'd expect for any engineering/business related job. The fact is that very few people have the energy / opportunities to get these roles.
@sumitroy2006
3 жыл бұрын
@@AH-zz6sc yup only FAANG's pay that much, outside that 200k is a good amount.
lol, very analytical at the end, and well explained loved it.
That’s so true! Geography and the company matters so much. Here in Australia there are companies that pay $50K AUD for junior software engineers! But better companies pay more, like Atlassian pays about $85K AUD to grad software engineers! The higher paying ones have many more interview sessions of course and are a lot harder to get into.
I came across you accidentally and while I don’t have a software engineering background, I had similar journey with the hardware gaints, ex-Hitachi, ex-Rioch, ex-Epson, ex-Samsung in head of product management. Just wan to say aside from the rather humorous delivery of content, that last line around chasing money in corporates never ends...and you only live once, so do what you can for financial freedom, not just chase to end your mortgage! #sidehussle is so important!
The advice here is priceless. Thank you Techlead
Thanks for the video. Puts things in perspective for a person beginning in the field.
Great advice in the end 👍🏼
Very informative, thank you so much, tech lead! Can you also talk about the average and maximum hours of work per week for software engineers?
How to hire the TechLead: *FREE COFFEE.*
@billsomen7953
4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@theveganvillainess2404
4 жыл бұрын
We have free coffee at our company, but it's horrible, lol
@TechLead
4 жыл бұрын
it's true, i won't work at a company with garbage coffee. i want lifestyle.
@RaoulThomas007
4 жыл бұрын
I heard TechLead has a personal Starbucks barista who delivers his coffee, as needed!
@sayhellotoroy
4 жыл бұрын
@@TechLead Do you go to kitchen during the interview to test it?
Awesome content! Thank you.
Woow! Thanks for this episode!!
Joining a valley company is the best decision I made in my life. Part of this is thanks to Techlead for providing amazing tips for interviewing. Thank you for your work, you are the mentor we need.
@UchiaItachi10
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a degree? What university did you go to?
@charlesbukowski9836
2 жыл бұрын
how many conservatives have you banned?
@zenndez4050
Жыл бұрын
@@charlesbukowski9836 hopefully a lot
@roadkilledpigeon
Жыл бұрын
@@charlesbukowski9836 probably a lot by now 😆
@roadkilledpigeon
Жыл бұрын
@@zenndez4050 better not be allowed to have an opinion lol
Since u mentioned similar lifestyle I m reminded of the ooglers living in unheated RVs vs ooglers in nice homes n good school districts. The divide even within the company of swes is quite high. For the RV dweller it is difficult to start a relationship
Interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing
this. was. amazing. thank you!
All jokes aside, this is actually great advice. I’m going through a career pivot atm and this is stuff I need to hear.
Facts and wise advice. Thoughtful!
Love your style of informative humour
I really can't predict if I will have a good laugh or a good lesson from your vids 😂 I once clicked on one of his vids hoping to learn something, but instead got a great amount of laughs. But this video was the opposite, I came here looking for a comedic relief, but instead got a great life lesson. Awesome content TechLead 🔥🔥
Hi TechLead, can you please make video with topics like: "This is my plan to get my wife back" "Traveling to Japan to ask my ex-wife for a night out" "I tried 20 different Get-my-Ex-back Online courses and this is what I learnt" "This is what I do that makes every woman fall in love with me" Finally you can create an own online course where you teach people how to get their ex back. You can monetize your getting my wife and my child back and deduct the expenses from your taxes. Never forget - you can reach any goal you focus on as long as you don't give up (even getting your child back not only career goals). TechLead, you are a super smart and intelligent guy. You have everything it takes to get the best girl in the world and your child back!!
@TechLead
4 жыл бұрын
someone educate me who the f is this guy? he's marvelous.
@werdemusiker
4 жыл бұрын
TechLead It just came out of my heart. I‘m Thomas from Germany. But I live in Los Angeles now.
@olakolade6656
3 жыл бұрын
lmao , you’re a genius!
@sowhat2121
3 жыл бұрын
@@TechLead he's fuckin' awesome.. which is obvious since he plays the piano
@Flitalidapouet
3 жыл бұрын
The guys is free ...... there is no way in hell I would try to get my kid and wife back. Once I saw the amazing life I have now. I own 8 tiny little properties all around the world, and live in the best landscape you can imagine walking with a back pack meeting the greatest people on earth. Before I was prisoner of a house, a wife, a kid. No way in hell I will get back to that. CHOOSE A LIFESTYLE THAT SUITS YOU, and stick with it. I had tons of regrets in the past with my wife, 5 years later, all the things I regretted I have done now. Free of regret..... I would not exchange that for anything.
Dude, you're such a mixed bag. I find your usual style cringey, but every now and then you come up with a genuine gem of wisdom like the one you came up with at the end of this video. Good job.
Wow nice information, thanks much appreciated.
this video was super insightful
Some profound knowledge by the techlead...
getting ready to start my courses soon! I took a 2 year computer programming class in high school and honestly coding is common sense! I’m ready for this new journey :)
The thing with lifestyle at the end was really good advice thank you
Motivation video for porgrammers. Thanks bro!
"Remember to enjoy that journey..." Man, that part really hit home.
@kp2718
4 жыл бұрын
Haven't you heard that a hundred times already?
@minoriruba1828
4 жыл бұрын
Bullshit.......not every one can enjoy everything they do.....if my borther didn't enjoy his life too much in high school he would have a better paying job now.... also he wouldn't have a kid without marriage!!!!
@l.1244
4 жыл бұрын
@@minoriruba1828 haha, lol
@kGu97
4 жыл бұрын
@@minoriruba1828 Exactly. "Remember to enjoy the journey...(the journey across hell)." Can be interpreted both ways 😂
@fahada2092
4 жыл бұрын
baby turtle yea but still companies will choose a guy from uc Berkeley over a foreigner.
slid in a jab when no one was watching "corrupt companies like Facebook" 😂😂 loved it! Some solid advice Techlead, indeed enjoy the journey, and have a plan for the future. Almost no one stays in those companies until they are 50 or 60, let alone retirement. Start your own business, your own niche Saas company is a great lifestyle option as well, besides you are not capped by the salary market and can work from anywhere.
@thetrollpatrol8799
4 жыл бұрын
Those companies haven’t been around long enough for people to stay that long though butbyeah
Great life advice. Respect
always, your contents give us some motivation,interesting of IT
Finally back to real non troll good quality content. Thanks for the video
@TechLead
4 жыл бұрын
honestly seemed no one could take a joke
Lol doctor after 10-15 years of education: “Am I joke to you?”
@shreejipatel1426
3 жыл бұрын
Btw there are some jobs out there as an developer that pay $90 an hour. And thats almost equivalent to an doctor.
@googa4744
3 жыл бұрын
@@shreejipatel1426 And you can do that in your 20s. Earning that money earlier in life than a doctor makes it worth more, as it has longer to grow
@d4nkx549
3 жыл бұрын
Doctors earn way more than engineers.
@corgi3339
3 жыл бұрын
@@d4nkx549 yeah but the debt, I say when doctors hit 40 they will be way richer
@evelynsefah2123
3 жыл бұрын
@@corgi3339 i agree
thanks TechLead, you always give me motivation to keep learning to code😁😅
loved the video . thank you.
100k is the national average for software engineers in the industry for a few years. Don't confuse people, and also areas like silicon valley or new york will have higher cost of living even though they pay a lot more.
@kevincen5736
4 жыл бұрын
UK is like 50k?
@emreon3160
4 жыл бұрын
1% would make 200K. Sales make more.
@TorqueKMA
4 жыл бұрын
Very this. Very narrow scope of the situation displayed in this video
@zeytelaloi
4 жыл бұрын
And even if places like the EU have lower salaries the working conditions are way better, lower/none student debt, healthcare is not a worry and you have a lot more vacation. The US sounds like the wild west sometimes, even if you guys are making a lot more.
@NONcomD
4 жыл бұрын
@ZackTactical34 healthcare and education in Europe is also high class. You dont need to sacrifice that much to get quality.
Hmm. 2 years experience as a developer in a small town, and I only make 65k. I might consider trying out a FANG. I used to think 100k is not that different from 65k if you consider the high living expenses in the big cities. But 200k+ is huge.
Thank you for that video, I really appreciate your opinion.
This is the first video of yours that I've watched in a long time....you seem very much happier and as a result, likeable than the last time I watched. I'm very happy for you whatever the reason is for this transformation. Again, I'm sincerely happy for you. Have a great day bro!
You touched on this, but I wanted to comment on how important the "lifestyle" aspect is. as a dev consultant, I'm really jealous of these big numbers that I hear FTEs at FANG companies make, but I also hear (and see) 50-60 hour work weeks being a norm. My experience is that they really don't pay you more for nothing. I'm always pressured to pursue these huge opportunities from my family, but shy away due to potential work/life balance sacrifices because I really enjoy a 9-5, solid 40 hour work week. or maybe i'm just making excuses :P
@nauxsi
4 жыл бұрын
You can do that when your family are fed up of you.:p
@andreliem
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not an excuse... knowing what you like is important. Some people can pull off these crazy hours, but most can’t do it for more than a few years. Maybe that’s why people leave jobs so much? I had a friend who did the google thing, loved it, got paid well than burnt out after family suffered. Never went back into tech really after this. Not saying that’s the norm but there are likely tons of stories of burn out and depression that go unheard in big tech. Take care of your mental health! The real gold mine is running your own company that runs itself, or having an app that generates good monthly income. That’s where I would focus long hours if I had to pick. But definitely think the challenge and type of work at the big tech companies is what should drive someone to pursue it, not just the big $$
@SheOnEarth
3 жыл бұрын
Mmm there are smaller companies that pay a lot less but expect you to work 50-60 hours per week! And of course the over time work is not paid! I was with a company like that before. At least in those big companies you actually get paid more and get some perks!
@tylert2413
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to make less but work only 30 hours a week.
@SheOnEarth
3 жыл бұрын
@@tylert2413 Oh yes I was also with another company, they were paying low but then it wasn't expected to work over time and we had the flexibility of working from home few hours a day or even few days if they were happy with you hehe It was nice in that way
Most of my SWE friends here in Seattle don’t usually stay their entire vesting period. Amazon specifically has a backloaded vesting schedule which screws you if you leave before the 4th year. Probably worth talking about. Also Seattle (WA State) has no state income tax, something worth thinking about.
@JonnyBeoulve
4 жыл бұрын
I'm also in Seattle. I'd never consider going to Silicon Valley. Pay here is comparable but you save yourself the pain of California income tax.
@DanielK1213th
4 жыл бұрын
I think they left because of all the rain and it depresses them so much. Always gray sky. Also nothing over there in Seattle. But thank you for jacking up the real estate prices. Now normal non-tech people can’t afford to live there.
@MidniteSon
4 жыл бұрын
Seattle is now an extension of the Bay Area, except with cloudy weather.
@PandemicGameplay
4 жыл бұрын
I wish people actually understood how vesting works and that most of the inflated salary is stock compensation not actually salary. In reality most of these pay near 100-150k with like 100-200k stocks.
@googleskype4043
4 жыл бұрын
PandemicGameplay Can you elaborate? He did say it's equity. What's wrong with equity once fully vested? Can't you sell it for roughly the advertised amount most of the time?
You give us good understand about work life balance and career growth too.Thanks🙂
Thank you for this video! 🙂
It's very worth mentioning the fact that the cost of living in the higher salary regions you mentioned is also considerably higher.
I enjoyed this quite a bit. Your advice at the end is actually really important. Living a good life that you are happy with, and can respect, is at least as important as making good money. Maybe more. But yes, if you go to S.V. and make 4x as much as you could elsewhere, and then retire early... maybe you can achieve your financial goals, and still find happiness. Not sure, but I agree - why not try for it?
Sage advice from the TechLead.
Amazing video, thank you
Very wise and valuable advice, which I couldn’t agree more as another former Silicon Valley software engineer who worked for a big tech company
Software engineering expectations are also wildly different in different places. In SF, SEA, or NYC, you are essentially expected to be a 10Xer. In Dallas, Boston, or Atlanta you're expected to be an average developer, and are paid as such regardless of productivity. However, the work stress in those cities is also generally way lower.
love this content !
I really enjoy your channel!
After all this free perks the "Free Coffee" got me.
Also loved the last part about how most people at these companies live almost the same lifestyle.
@ThomasFoolery8
4 жыл бұрын
They don’t though. That’s just what people see. The top paid developers bang supermodel looking high end escorts a few nights a week in their penthouse apartments.
@pastaface9966
3 жыл бұрын
@@ThomasFoolery8 Maybe if you are FANG VP+ or crypto-rich. Don't really see that behavior with developers.
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