Il livello musicale nel 1974 era a dir poco sublime ed elevato. Oggi, a distanza di ben 50 anni, siamo caduti in un precipizio... 🎶🎵🎼

Nel 1974 alla RAI eravamo nel futuro, ora nel neolitico

..quando.. DIO. ALLAN..scese nel nostro paese per la prima volta....che tempi..

@tagstefmusic

4 жыл бұрын

edoardo zampetti e il cameraman inquadra qualsiasi cosa tranne il meraviglioso solo di Allan...!!!!!

RAI!! WOW!! I was 3 years old in 1974.. today television is a real disaster!

Very respectful of the director to look away while most of the magic happens!

Outstanding music, outstanding rack in the back there.

@ulrichrohde4071

4 жыл бұрын

As long as you notice things like this you´re not dead yet.

11^ puntata di Under 20, in onda sul secondo programma il 09/02/1974. Voce fuori campo: Raffaele Cascone. Autore: Paolo Giaccio. Regia: Enzo Trapani.

HP1 is my favourite track of all time and I have listened to all the available live versions, and whilst all sublime in their own way, I am glad to say, in my humble opinion, the album version is by far the best. Not just because of the content and arc of the solo, but also Allan’s sound, which is a bit more meaty on the that version. RIP Maestro Allan. Peace

@PaulCooijmans

Жыл бұрын

I agree, the album version is best. "Hazard Profile Part I" is the prototype of a guitar solo.

Real good footage, so many different camera views. Very special for that time.

RIP Allan.. !! Fantastic Music you created that will be enjoyed FOREVER...!!

The best british jazz band

Geni assoluti. ❤❤❤

Magnifici!! Quanto mi sarebbe piaciuto vederli dal vivo.. Grazie per questa perla!! Elisa

Questa formazione l'ho vista al Palasport di Milano nel '75... epici !

"Under 20" ! una delle rare trasmissioni di musica della RAI che proponeva in modo serio autori di alto livello, senza trattare i telespettatori da idioti. "Under 20" era figlia della trasmissione radio "Per voi giovani" (primi anni '70) ascoltando la quale ho formato i miei gusti musicali. Bei tempi (passati)

Superdrummer John Marshall.. to name in one row with Billy Cobham and Tony Williams

@christinerawnsley1638

7 ай бұрын

Agree completely

I did not know that! I was given a nucleus album years ago and have listened to quite a lot. I only just started listening to soft machine, but now I think I have some research to do! Cheers!

Nel 1974 ero militare a Udine e per vedere il concerto a Treviso non avevamo il permesso del comandante, ci siamo andati comunque!! Amazing

Che spettacolo! Thanks for this wonderful remind

🎧 This is my favourite *Amazing* melody 🎼

This was real progression and experimentsl stuff!!!

The camera work probably makes sense if you watch it pissed. Apart from the last few years when it was Jenkins' project entirely , the softs were always great from The Daevid Allen (R.I.P.) years, and now ,2017 sees them back on the road,as they have been for about ten years now. Highly recommended. John Marshall,Roy Babbington,Theo Travis and the utterly magnificent John Etheridge.

@PoliceBoy465

4 жыл бұрын

I recently got Hidden Details on vinyl, it is awesome. Theo Travis is a great addition.

NOOOO MAGNIFICO!

It's the same because both are written by the same guy. Karl Jenkins, the guy on soprano sax and later, keyboards, was the keyboardist and oboist in Nucleus before he joined Soft Machine. It might also have had to do with the fact that Soft Machine's drummer at this point, John Marshall, was also the drummer in Nucleus when "We'll Talk About it Later" was recorded, and not only that, but Allan Holdsworth, who joined Nucleus a few albums later, also ended up in Soft Machine!

@harrywix

Жыл бұрын

So did Roy Babbingon who's playing bass here.

fantastico!

I wish they showed allans hands more.

cioèèè i Soft alla RAI!?!?!?? fora de testaaaaaaaaaa :) bei vecchi tempi.....

Nice shot's of Allan's hair. Never mind the hands. You have to laugh, or cry!... ;)

Wow!

Cacchio io me lo ricordo Cascone su Per voi giovani, con Massarini. Una volta dopo aver messo in onda "Fletcher's Blemish" da Fourth dei Soft Machine (brano di free jazz) mandarono un pezzo dei Rolling Stones. Ebbene, uno dei due disse che la batteria di Charlie Watts "era informale". Una balla così spaziale merita di essere ricordata.Avevo solo 17 anni e mi è rimasta impressa. Ad Under 20 ricordo Ornette Coleman suonare un brano poi apparso su "Dancing in your head" ed i S.M. suonare All White.

Se non sbaglio lo show andava in onda il sabato pomeriggio verso le 18.

sounds like tubular bells...groovy 🎸

If you like the guitar riff, you might like Band: Nucleus Song: Song for the bearded lady Album: We'll talk about it later IT IS THE SAME!!!

@fedem.8475

4 жыл бұрын

Oh my God! You're right: it is the same riff, but more complicated!...release 4 years earlier than soft machine... I don't understand 🤔

@gerardotejada2531

Жыл бұрын

At this point in time Soft Machine was 4/5 Nucleus. Karl Jenkins, the composer of Song for the Bearded Lady, the one playing sax here, recycled his composition for Soft Machine.

@gerardotejada2531

Жыл бұрын

@@fedem.8475 same musicians.

Dear Allan. .

Sun Ra that you can light !!!

the grain of this footage looks so 60's

Witness the worst camerawork in the history of broadcasting folks. Holdsworth is tearing it up and the cam-man is making drunk swings, zooming on a moustache here, a mic stand there.

@pobinr

9 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts

@chuckazeee

5 жыл бұрын

Must be Italian cousin of the idiot that filmed Van Der Graaf Generator's "Godbluff" in France.

@josephnance4806

4 жыл бұрын

Terrible mix. Karl Jenkins' distorted piano drowns out Holdsworth. Just awful.

@dantean

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly, it's SO typical of the way music's ALWAYS been filmed. Intense closeups of the player's left nostril while their hands are what actually are doing the most amazing things.

quando la BBC faceva le pippe alla RAI...

Karl Jenkins, il "Terminator" dei Soft Machine....Karl Jenkins, the Soft Machine "Terminator"...

On Italia, se posso dire, avevamo gli Area

The audience look like they were just randomly dragged in off the street, they have no clue what they are witnessing. Damned shame, such a brilliant performance. As for the production least said the better.

When Italian TV was a real service broadcast to all parts of the whole audience (families, kids and youth) providing appropriate programs. Not the whole lotta rubbish it turned to be nowadays....

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🔝

Mioddio ma dove sono finite ste trasmissioni??? Soft Machine fantastici come sempre!!

It IS the same riff. Karl Jenkins, the guy on soprano sax, wrote both this song and Song for the Bearded Lady, since Nucleus is the band he came from. Maybe it's just me, but Jenkins seemed to bring much more to Nucleus than he did Soft Machine in terms of playing - his keyboard sound on We'll Talk About it Later is awesome! By the way, Allan Holdsworth, Roy Babbington, and John Marshall also come from nucleus, so pretty much the whole band is Nucleus at this point, apart from Mike Ratledge.

Allan Holdsworth . . . I don't understand. Never did. Off his head and way beyond mine.

@gerardotejada2531

Жыл бұрын

He plays like a Sax Player.

C'era una volta la RAI

@SymphonyFantastique

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZqmw7KIoNyTYM4.html 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Grandi Soft Machine...ma quanto non era avanti anche la RAI rispetto ad adesso?

Che dire dell'allora giovane holdsworth, già pirotecnico. Peccato che quel "genio" del regista rai non solo non lo inquadri mai, ma mentre e' all'assolo inquadra il bassista, forse confondendosi per la chitarra a 6 corde usata come basso e per l'aspetto più folcloristico per quei tempi

revox A77 Mk3 HS

+ 'Easter 1916'. It was not unusual for these folks to rework their own compositions (and each others)

Brilliant (apart from when Jenkins goes on the keyboards halfway through and drowns everyone out!) - the ending makes up for it though.

Los adoro

Ha, holdsworth's wearing the same shirt from the other video!

The "engineer" who did this sound mix must have been deaf.

FS, who directed the camera work, Stevie Wonder?

I frickin' love Robert Wyatt, but John Marshall was a great replacement. Robert had to part ways with the band. First 4 albums were my favourites, but they had some good ones after that. Bundles being a very good one.

@jackamo23 the audience is not jaded, is just in the typical mood of the audience in italian tv shows in the '60/'70, if you look at any old live show in tv (even Lucio Battisti's) you will find that audience always act like this

Next song: P Control - Prince KZread Autoplay is on a whole another level, I see.

@SymphonyFantastique

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/hZqmw7KIoNyTYM4.html 🤘🤘🤘🤘

JOHN MARSHALL!!!!!

Pezzo fantastico, per carità. Ma ha ancora senso chiamarli Soft Machine senza l'asse portante Ayers/Wyatt/Hopper? Direi proprio di no

@Hazardous541

3 жыл бұрын

Hanno ancora senso queste polemiche anni 70 una volta entrati nell'olimpo dei classici? Direi proprio di no.

john marshall ci ha lasciato oggi, addio grande!

@velvetunderground1343

4 жыл бұрын

John marshall è più vivo di te.

@giovannisugonatoli

4 жыл бұрын

@@velvetunderground1343 infatti. Era una fake news

@velvetunderground1343

4 жыл бұрын

@@giovannisugonatoli divertente, non sai quanto.

@giovannisugonatoli

4 жыл бұрын

@@velvetunderground1343 ridi ridi che la mamma ha fatto gli gnocchi

@giovannisugonatoli

4 жыл бұрын

@@velvetunderground1343 ho spiegato che girò una notizia poi fasulla sulla sua morte. Non ti basta o devi fare il figo a tutti i costi, cumpà? Ogni giorno si incontra uno col cervello di mogano

The director thought the Bass VI is a guitar

Hazarddous541 sono d'accordo con te

Is it just me, or is that main guitar riff the same as Nucleus 'Song for the bearded lady' off the Album 'We'll talk about it later.'? (BW5ektszKD4) Interesting....

@fusionfan6883

4 жыл бұрын

whitetanuki232323 Yes Jenkins composed SFBL and brought it with him to SF where it was slightly tweaked and reworked as the theme for Hazard Profile.

Pensa un po com'era la RAI

Figlio mio, e come poteva reagire? Doveva solo ascoltare senza capire nulla. Già era tanto, allora, se c'era qualche epigono di Hendrix e Clapton, Townshend non si copiava perchè non prendeva assoli, tuttalpiù qualcuno tentava di copiare Alvin Lee, ma per capire Holdsworth....impossibile. E dire che nei Soft Machine del 74 era ingabbiato nelle composizioni di Jenkins, ancora non poteva esprimersi come voleva. Ascoltare Gazeuse dei Gong, please, e poi i suoi album solo.

Evolution ... yestarday.

You can barely hear Allan's Guitar sound, Jenkins keyboard sound is too loud.

@andythomas706

7 жыл бұрын

Jenkins was taking over at this point! Holdsworth is dynamite, as always!

@MrDirtydaves

7 жыл бұрын

Sadly this was exactly the problem I ran into seeing Holdsworth himself with his own band several years back

@rickg8015

7 жыл бұрын

Mayhem2414 That's why Robert Quine hated synth players..

@Gregorypeckory

7 жыл бұрын

If your perceptions are reliable, it was probably because of a bad sound person wherever you were. I saw him many times over many years, and the mix was almost always excellent, and his guitar was always out front when it needed to be, and sounding fantastic. He never intentionally buried himself in the mix as you seem to be implying, although here I do think he's mixed way low, but it's unrelated; it isn't his band, and it's a television production which probably meant the band had no say in the mix anyway.

per essere un filmato RAi degli anni 70 è già molto ben fatto, ho visto cose negli anni 80 e 90 che voi umani non avreste mai immaginato , comunque qui la regia è assente, tutto il merito è del mixer video, che non ne azzecca una, addirittura deve essere andato in bagno ad un certo punto , perchè la camera stretta vaga senza sapere che fare......mah

@tosellodobaron6024

7 жыл бұрын

Ad avercene di primi piani del genere....q me questo tipo di regia, SEMPLICE, DIRETTA, MI FA IMPAZZIRE

D'accordissimo pure io! Ma un chitarrista italiano che si imbatteva in questa cosa nel 74 come poteva reagire??

@edoardozampetti4601

6 жыл бұрын

dopo aver ascoltato Holdsworth cambiava mestiere...

Soft Machine fans might like this special video for “The Floating World” from Bundles. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJ6cxsSwidnNgM4.html

in 2022 Italians still keep on pay for RAI...it's a fuking tax...for the national tv that just broadcast CRAP. I wish I were in 1974 for paying to watch that shows! Even if Soft Machine isn't CORPO MORBIDO...Corpo Morbido means Soft Body...

Hazard Profiles in its raw infancies. Really bad mixed!

@soulvigilante

7 жыл бұрын

I would say the song was pretty fully fleshed out already, having been released as "Song for the Bearded Lady" when Jenkins was with Nucleus.

Shame the balance between the instruments is so poor. Holdsworth close to inaudible, Jenkins too loud, Ratledge nowhere. But then this isn't really the Soft Machine: it's Nucleus without Ian Carr, with Ratledge as the token original member.

visti a Livorno nel 75...odio Allan Holdswort..questa dei Nucleus è Song for the bearded lady da Well talk about it later,molto piu trascinante che qui...buona anche questa,ma i very Soft Machine sono finiti con la cacciata di Robert Wyatt da parte di Mike Ratledge,così dice Wyatt in un intervista

Porque la mald..ta costumbre de poner a camarografos o directores estupidos...como en pleno solo enfoca hasta a la mosca menos a Allan Holdsworth...

すべてをこうちくしようなんてぜんぶまぜないとむりだ ねっとしゃかいのいまならかのうかも こいつらはばかみたいにすごいばかだからなあ くったあなんでもできるよ