What do you think? Is Socialism immoral? Where do you draw the line? And thanks to everyone who showed up! Standing in the mud for hours just to watch two people disagree. Was an awesome experience. Next time, we’ll bring the whole shebang!

@giin97

6 жыл бұрын

In a word, yes.

@charlespiro6917

6 жыл бұрын

StevenCrowder i draw the line at dont steal my hard earned money that i had to work hard to get!!!

@nobama3297

6 жыл бұрын

“The goal of socialism IS communism” -Vladimir Lenin

@nathangilbert7774

6 жыл бұрын

The government can’t play robin hood. If it tries to then nobody can truly be successful.

@DeusSalis

6 жыл бұрын

1.7M subscribers, man I remember when it was less than 100K, crazy how popular you have become in so little time, keep up the great work, it's really paying off!

Crowder wtf man? Why did you stop the discussion with Yousef? This was one of your best opponents. He didn't insult you either.

@planetjerm

6 жыл бұрын

And who cares if he did? Crowder insulted him over and over. He even called him stupid toward the end. Phrasing it in terms like "I wouldn't say you're ... " is still insulting him, we're all smart enough to see that.

@markd7762

6 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Thomas Totally agree man. I noticed Crowded kept rephrasing the point Yousef meant. I think this was to give him time to think of a response. I still enjoy Crowder and acknowledge he's way smarter than I am but I would have like to have seen this go the distance

@MrT-hs6su

6 жыл бұрын

Because views

@TheSpartan3669

6 жыл бұрын

no shit, he profits off the ideas he espouses because it serves as a source of confirmation for those that hold the same belief. Why would he be open to adopting a stance that doesn't align with his audience's beliefs regardless of the veracity of the beliefs? This is the same tactic that fox news (Tucker Carlson specifically) adopts. It's all about the $$$ not truth.

@kringekevthegamekat7239

6 жыл бұрын

The Patriotic Nobody has

I like how Yusef would say like three words and Steven is like "whoa whoa slow down with your paragraphs trying to sound all smart"

@JitSlayer

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't prove socialism isny evil or change his mind that's the whole point

@dances_with_incels

5 жыл бұрын

That only happened one time

@carlrdbro1230

5 жыл бұрын

it happened about 3 or 4 times

@banquetmeal663

5 жыл бұрын

I like how he expects simple answers to complex questions and when yusuf starts explaining what he means Crowder immediately changes the subject and says he isn't sticking to topic. Its sad.

@shaunster2

5 жыл бұрын

People just don’t understand socialism. We have socialism now except it goes to the people who don’t have jobs. Real socialism would help everyone

damn crowder actually accused the kid of "trying to sound smart by talking in paragraphs" but he is talking way longer on each point, kept interrupting him, accused him of indecent speech and behavior, and used crowd bullying tactics to own the situation without actually putting out valid counter arguments.

@akantorsuka

Жыл бұрын

This made me lose the respect i had for him. the kid actually had some interesting points

@MangaCarta

Жыл бұрын

@@akantorsuka yeah mate same thing with me when I first watched this.

@Throatwobbler_Mangrove

Жыл бұрын

Crowder ✡️ fears a socialist that is a nationalist

@ianrust3785

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the whole pretense of these events is he's there to have his mind changed, but it's a false pretense because he's completely uninterested in hearing what the person has to say.

@Abulls33

Жыл бұрын

interesting how youre bring up such an important topic 4 years later...i wonder why??

the saddest part, i was really into this discussion and learned more about the topic. suddenly you kicked him out. that was a very bad and sad move

@jeffforsythe9514

Жыл бұрын

The evil CCP has murdered 80 million of its own people since 1949. It is now torturing, organ harvesting and executing the 100 million Falun Gong who live in China, pure godless evil. The problem is that Wall Street spells human right$ like that, never exposing the true nature of the Satanic CCP.

@ammar3094

27 күн бұрын

His followers cant see he clearly isnt smart and cant handle someone smart that calls him out

I feel like these are better without such big crowds..

@GreenGearMood

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah the wooping really holds the actual discussions back.

@qwertyuiop2010

6 жыл бұрын

Darius Gray The crowd was extremely annoying and tried to be funny but instead just ended up acting like a giant shadow of crowder

@ryanmcdonough6179

6 жыл бұрын

Darius Gray I agree, was not the same as the others and didn’t seem like “change my mind”

@dnd6075

6 жыл бұрын

i dont think anyone actually thinks these are better with big crowds, as they said this wasnt planned.

@AEGISDEFENSE

6 жыл бұрын

I agree, but at the same time the whole show got railroaded by the School. So in lieu of the proper show, I liked it; understanding however that the proper live show would have been better.

Kid: *breaths* Crowder: *define breathing*

@ognir66

4 жыл бұрын

You have to get real specific with the Bernie Sanders crowd. They spend a great deal of time in Fantasyland.

@AppleOfThineEye

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheRayKid101 You seem to like to separate sentences with commas.

@troll7589

4 жыл бұрын

@@ognir66 conservatives seem to spend all their time chasing morals, good and bad via theory and some dreamland utopia instead of striving to make good in the actuall world we live in.

@troll7589

4 жыл бұрын

@@ognir66 and the change my mind guy was wrong about Denmark's tax rate, so factually he is far from clean himself. That's what happens when you decide what you believe and then go looking for facts instead of learning about a subject and then forming an opinion. Then he would learn that Denmark has a flat regional tax and progressive(borderline exponential with a cap off) national tax.

@AppleOfThineEye

4 жыл бұрын

@@SicknastyFPS Thank you for noticing one of my scholarly traits. :)

Proof that Steven in fact doesn’t want his mind changed, big surprise.

@eavesdropper0

Жыл бұрын

Has he ever changed his mind lol?

@trips347

Жыл бұрын

@@eavesdropper0 To be fair, on most of his topics, like Trump, abortion, rape culture, genders, he’s right about all of it. He uses common sense and facts in everything.

@eavesdropper0

Жыл бұрын

@@trips347 so he never did. Got it

@SutureEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) You also lean into them physically which is not a proper debate forum. It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space! ALSO he insults the kids haircut which is extremely rude. The kid did not even call him autistic. He said the idea had pieces of autism throughout. That is completely different. Crowder knew he lost.

@Yurrbo

Жыл бұрын

It’s not really meant to actually change his mind. It’s just meant to be a good phrasing of a debate

Damn, I'm not even a socialist and even I have to admit that Yusuf simply destroyed Crowder in this exchange.

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

You must be high

@emulatorisland7417

Жыл бұрын

​@@skinnie2838 on da truth pills baybeee cuz it's true, Steven got cooked

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

@@emulatorisland7417 Crowder didnt get cooked here. Cope more.

@Cinderella121

Жыл бұрын

@@skinnie2838He didn’t get cooked, he got destroyed. Particularly when he couldn’t defend the point that public roads, bridges, and highways are socialism. The fact that he’s prancing around college campuses looking for debates is already embarrassing enough on its own.

@VeritasAtlatic

Жыл бұрын

I’m a libertarian and I’m slightly autistic 🤷🏻‍♂️ I’d like to have a long form conversation as Yusif!

How was Yusef rude? You were never rude to your guests no matter how offensive or rude they were to you up until this point. He's holding his own ground. He barely interrupted you and he gave you the same patience and courtesy you've given your previous guests. You don't have to call him out on being a dick or being rude to you, giving off such distasteful body language, and picking at his vocabulary which wasn't even directed to offend you personally. When you have a discussion with someone who has a different view point from yours, you already risk being offended and I thought you of all people would know that and would have kept it 'civil,' as you always had. I share a lot of your view points and I don't fully understand all these concepts, which is why I like watching your debates because you're thorough in your opinions, but this was terrible to watch.

@2010Dilys

5 жыл бұрын

y'all???? speak English

@anoxchannel1

5 жыл бұрын

You've never heard of a contraction? Lmfao go back to 2nd grade

@seandafny

5 жыл бұрын

Regine Santiago I couldnt agree more. Whats ur IG??

@seandafny

5 жыл бұрын

the big Cartel how u got Ne-Yo as ur avi and criticize “yall”? meatwad

@rightyourwrong

5 жыл бұрын

he was clearly rude lol... sly rudeness... smart guy with a plan coming in. cool to see bc crowder doesnt usually get those

Yusef: *Breathes* Crowder: Hold on a second!

@THE______TRUTH

5 жыл бұрын

😂 yea crowder was a bit triggered in this one.

@DrHami

5 жыл бұрын

That's some good shit right there 😆

@milads4070

5 жыл бұрын

haha wait for the fanboy dick riders to come up with a reply. I bet they can't resist once they see at the top!

@bluegreensubmarine

5 жыл бұрын

Quit it with those paragraphs!

@moonlight9883

5 жыл бұрын

Yusef: blinks Crowder: whoaaa! do you even know what blinking means?! Give the exact definition of blinking smart guy!

Kid **breathes** Crowder: "**you keep talking in paragraphs**"

"if you dont get distracted by words like autistic or shill" dude was literally stun locked for 10 minutes about each word lmao crowder was crumblin.

@Vance731

Жыл бұрын

The moment the first dude used autistic as a derogatory or replacement for “stupid”, “retarded” or “silly”, his whole argument was invalid

@macdaddyo7970

Жыл бұрын

@@Vance731 just because he said a certain word doesnt mean he was entirely wrong. like yeah i dont fw that kinda talk but what he said before doesnt become wrong just from that word he said. crowder literally was telling ppl to not get flustered by those words yet couldnt shut tf up about him using it which imo is worse than using a word he probably shouldn’t have.

@chriswade9616

Жыл бұрын

@@Vance731 A 1 inch cube of lead is heavier than a 1 inch cube of aluminium, if you don't agree with me, you're stupid. Is my argument invalid?

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

​@macdaddyo7970 of course it doesn't mean he was totally wrong. It just adds to the fact that he was wrong. If you can't go a convo without insulting someone you lost.

@grimsquad273

6 ай бұрын

@@theegamer8401let’s rewatch the vid idiot. You want me to put all the time marks where crowder used the word “autistic” more than Yusuf who only said it once?! Crowder even used it more aggressively and constantly in the kids face flailing his arms around like a chimpanzee. Just say your gay for Steven lmfao 😂😂😂🫵🤣

Having a rant about the word autistic to dismiss another person's chance to speak. Not very admirable I think.

@brodygalloway9807

5 жыл бұрын

tariq In the informal early 20th century sense it’s “originally with reference to a condition in which fantasy dominates over reality”

@sofiassuicide6228

5 жыл бұрын

The Truth of the Matter the term “autists” isn’t the proper name for people who have autism... it’s a slang word that’s meant as an offense

@ChaceBonanno

5 жыл бұрын

He honestly seems a little bit autistic. Barely made eye contact.

@legendasbr3211

5 жыл бұрын

He actually stated a person who uses logic is autistic as if logic didn't lead to truth when it's by definition a method of analysis of the truth value of sentences.

@MrIcculus6

4 ай бұрын

Logic and rationalism lead to false conclusions all of the time. @@legendasbr3211

Don’t like how Crowder handled Yousef saying autistic, he held it against him then cut him off with it. Sounded like a true offended SJW

@Sea_ss

6 жыл бұрын

J_Smith-26 do people not understand that Crowder is a right wing SJW. Talk about psychological projection with him

@stephenjohnson1358

6 жыл бұрын

The part where Yusef the Autistic shill tries to propose Sweden, Norway and Denmark as examples of Socialist countries that work? Only that the PM of Denmark corrected Bernie Sanders in saying that they AREN’T a socialist country? Or where Sweden uses school vouchers but Yusef the Austist doesn’t like that idea? Or where he doesn’t support an increase in taxes on the middle class and lower class, which is exactly what these socialist countries he tries to use as good example of socialism do? When confronted with the reality of what they actually do, he says they “should change it”.... He also doesn’t support decreasing the corporate tax, which again is what they do in Denmark, Sweden and Norway. So at what point did he make any good statements that don’t contradict himself? He literally had NO argument of supportive facts. He disagreed with the policies of these “socialist” countries he propped up as examples. Even though they aren’t socialist countries to begin with... haha And you still wonder why Crowder had to end it after all this kid’s backtracking and name calling? J_Smith-26

@harryc8184

6 жыл бұрын

Stephen Johnson dude shut your bitch ass up your boy got wrecked

@harryc8184

6 жыл бұрын

Dylan Barlow L

@ShiningDarknes

5 жыл бұрын

@@harryc8184 Stephen Johnson brought up good points and all you have to say is "shut your bitch ass up." Great discussion.

I was actually at this event. I remember leaving with a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. This was the day when I realized just how weak most of Stephen’s arguments were. It started me on a long road of learning how to critically think, how to accept nuance, and to recognize bad arguments and logical fallacies.

@xedrusreborn4876

Жыл бұрын

And leftism?

@jkirch523

Жыл бұрын

Riiiiight...

@iJustScrap

Жыл бұрын

5 years ago, so I am assuming you are well into your career. How is life and can you pleases explain more?

@jamesnesran2348

Жыл бұрын

thats because he was up against a national socialist. no one can beat a national socialist in debate

@jeffforsythe9514

Жыл бұрын

The evil CCP has murdered 80 million of its own people since 1949. It is now torturing, organ harvesting and executing the 100 million Falun Gong who live in China, pure godless evil. The problem is that Wall Street spells human right$ like that, never exposing the true nature of the Satanic CCP.

"I think you are getting mad because you are loosing a debate." Destruction.

@AppleOfThineEye

7 ай бұрын

>misspelling an easy word like "losing" DeStRuCtIoN.

@PontiacSunfires

6 ай бұрын

@@AppleOfThineEyeu mad lollll

@AppleOfThineEye

6 ай бұрын

@@PontiacSunfires Why would I be mad at someone that incompetent? LoLlLlL

@PontiacSunfires

6 ай бұрын

@@AppleOfThineEye idk im sorry 🥺 i didnt mean to offend u im sorry it wont happen again ill be quiet now 🥺🥺

@AppleOfThineEye

6 ай бұрын

@@PontiacSunfires You wish you had the power to offend so easily. 🥺🥺🥺🥺

I'm a fan, but Germany DOES HAVE a minimum wage. It's is about 10$ an hour (≈8,50€). So he was wrong right at the beginning 😬

@ifuckinglovehumanism3624

5 жыл бұрын

On the first of January 2019 it will become 9,19€. It´s currently at 8.84€. Just wanted to led you know=)

@speisequark2

5 жыл бұрын

Emperor Maximilian The Great Exactly.

@nielsnielsen9013

5 жыл бұрын

Denmark pretty much has minimum wage too (much higher than us too) and progressive tax.

@maxsimes

5 жыл бұрын

Lol all the scandinavian countries also have a minimum wage + a welfare system

@roadrage9191

5 жыл бұрын

If you are going to compare you should compare everything. It is like saying a boat does not have a wing so why does an airplane need one. It is all about understanding what you are talking about. Unions in the US are weak, unions in Europe are much stronger. Also the things you can buy for the money you get matters. What other support exists, house rental support, child support and possibly others. In the end what matters is the net money you have in your pocket and what you can do with it. Also Germany is not really socialist, it is capitalist in most ways with maybe some socialist aspects. Basics in most European countries, the money you get from a 40 hour work week should be enough to live from no matter what work you do. Left wing parties in the US are also to eager to point to europe without context. I understand why, but you should first understand the full consequences, benefits and dependencies.

"This isn't a performance, this a conversation between us" *Continues to look at crowd for support*

@nibuer

5 жыл бұрын

LOL exactly crowder is a bigger hypocrite than the libertards he hates so much.

@tylerkrepps1530

5 жыл бұрын

billy phillips Why are you tripping so hard? The dude is trying to win a debate. The crowd needs to be on your side to do so

@DanS044

5 жыл бұрын

Because he is talking to the crowd! Like Jesus Christ... some people 🙈🥴

@Woiwoi00000

5 жыл бұрын

@@tylerkrepps1530 He's trying to win over his watchers in the crowd and the video and he can't do it without having complete control of the argument

@nullify00

5 жыл бұрын

you are IQ sub 50

You can also tell how uncomfortable Steven is by the amount of times he turns around and interrupts to chat to the crowd as if they said something - but they didn't. He is trying to buy time to think....

@prisonerohope6970

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262

Жыл бұрын

yuuuuuuuup I'm surprised Crowder even had the guts to use this footage. He embarrassed himself.

@HelloThere.....

Жыл бұрын

@@prisonerohope6970 they did something, listen. Much of the time they are actually talking to him. I agree with you though, he is stopping and speaking slow and not very straight, keeps repeating things, I get it. It's okay to think though, but it's that he's doing so to come up with a way to win the argument not just talk about what the truth might be.

@prisonerohope6970

Жыл бұрын

@@HelloThere..... God is so Good! Whatever we do, let's do it with Love, because of Love, and in Christ. Because, in the end it won't matter if we win arguments. It will matter if we Loved people and tried to send them Safely on their way to Confident Relationship with God: Because of The Sacrifice! Love and in All Sincerity, Shandalay

@shanellecarlson9499

Жыл бұрын

Distraction in order to knock a person off their focus.

Steven displayed his ignorance, stupidity and arrogance when harassing Yusef. This dude is clearly a very well educated and intelligent young man, Steven displayed his lack of formal education because he cannot grasp Yusef’s points. Steven was clearly outclassed.

@acfiv1421

9 ай бұрын

Well, they both screwed up right at the beginning in regards to the definition of socialism. "Socialism is where the state redistributes wealth", is completely wrong. Those are social programs - kinda similar names, but very different. Socialism is the state ownership of the means of production - i.e. Private business is not allowed. You can have varying degrees of socialism - full socialism like in the USSR or North Korea where you can't even own your own lemonade stand, or partial socialism where the state owns key industries like oil, gas, heavy manufacturing, but private enterprise is still tolerated elsewhere. A lot of Western European countries tried that in the 60s and 70s. But socialism, both full and partial, has proven to be a disaster in every single country it has been tried in. It fails because a) government bureaucrats suck at managing businesses, b) government bureaucrats have a natural mindset that avoids change and improvements of products and services - a government car manufacturer will make the same car for 50 years unless forced to change, either by the threat of imports or simply the machine tooling wearing out. I saw a shoe factory in Bulgaria in around 1990, where the tooling for left foot shoes broke down. But they had quotas to meet, so they simply shipped thousands of pairs of shoes, and in each box were two shoes for the right foot. THAT is socialism.

@Salisky

8 ай бұрын

​@@acfiv1421I'm not reading all that BS

@acfiv1421

8 ай бұрын

@@Salisky Why advertise your ignorance? If you don't want to read it, simply don't read it and move on.

@benfabternas5073

7 ай бұрын

@@acfiv1421if it makes you feel better, I read it

@arjanurevic3543

7 ай бұрын

​@@acfiv1421 no, socialism is a classless and stateless society.

Looked like Mr. Chowder regretted asking Yousef about examples of the rich paying to abuse the system and increase their wealth, seeing as how he never let Yousef finish. Yousef had plenty examples and counterarguments, he just wasn’t given the time to speak. Grow some balls Stephen. And the fact that Yousef called him a shill, clearly struck a nerve, probably because there is some truth to his insult.

@Noneofyourbusiness57817

6 жыл бұрын

and then he goes on to shill his $6 pamphlets. he's a joke

@Culwhickbeocca

6 жыл бұрын

I do think that Yosef has a point that big businesses hinder society, and that large economic inequality does provoke violence. I do think there is a solution that will help. That is to ban all lobbying. And prosecute lobbying. I don’t know if there are rules and laws that already do that in a sense. I am not educated in that area, except that in the book The Chickenshit Club, there is a grand historical documentation of corrupt leadership in our legal prosecution system, where the repetitive example is of the defense bar of the United States Lawyers Defense Bar Association ( I made that name to make it easy for people not educated in what a defense bar is) is retaliatory against the prosecuting Attorney General, or the lawyers who prosecute, every single time they went after executives of big businesses, and also when they prosecute their enablers (the certified public accountants, high level managers of banks overseeing transactions). The retaliation is so vast, that since the 90’s and early 2000’s, there has been widespread fear among the prosecutors (lawyers working for the government) that is they prosecute too hard, they lose their careers. Why is this obvious? That is easy; notice that these lawyers no longer prosecute the executives. The lawsuits of today’s big businesses prosecution is a fee that looks like a slap on the wrist, and even bailing out the guilty corporations. No executives go to prison today, in a practical and impactful leven that discourages stupidity like selling securities backed by crap mortgages. And this happens because the defense bar makes a profit from retaliating against the prosecution of big businesses, and so the Bar Associations is a puppet of large businesses with executives sticking their hands up the defense bar’s behinds and having them do their bidding. It comes down to the incredibly huge profits that corporations pay the defense lawyers. Prosecutors never come close to half a fraction of the income these defense lawyers make. Thus, the defense attorneys are overcompensated while the prosecution is under funded, underemployed, and low in morale. The bar association for lawyers have a huge influence on law, because though they don’t make them, they interpret them and choose how and what to enforce. As you can see, my answer is not socialist, but rather to support the objective role of the government under a capitalist nation. When organizations like Bar Associations for Attorneys is influenced by large businesses, it no longer is capable of objectivity. They are biased. Notice another example, which is large communication businesses moving to control and censor internet use by means of compensating or financially denying profits according to that businesses interest. You think the prosecuting attorneys can properly defend the people when there is a violation against citizens rights to access to information? Though some will argue that information is a privilege, not a right. How about the platform or the availability to information? Some may even argue that a platform for information is also a privilege. I disagree, and I bet the defense bar will agree. Further, the problem is that compensating defense lawyers isn’t known as lobbying. Lobbying is to pay for making or taking down laws. But few people see that paying for the interpretation and bias of prosecution or defense relating to this laws are also corporate influence. It is lot lobbying only because the definition in the dictionary doesn’t agree with it, but for practical purposes it is indeed lobbying. It is the corporate influence in how to and what to interpret of the law.

@NatePrikkel

6 жыл бұрын

Gotta say, yusef won this and Chowder couldn't handle it, so he had to boot him and then push his argument to get the last word on a depricative joke. 0% class and 0% skill, utterly frustrated and let down that chowder acted so autistic and shill-like.

@AdderTude

6 жыл бұрын

He was given the time to speak. He simply refused to cite specific examples because he kept vacillating on his own argument. Usually means he doesn't actually have any examples and that he's simply ranting.

@actesb6748

6 жыл бұрын

Even as a fan it seemed like Crowder just up and refused to listen to something that would actually change his mind or perspective. Makes you think...

That was awful, lost the first debate and removed the kid. There is no point of the show if you're reluctant to changing your mind or accepting the other persons views

@TheSpartan3669

6 жыл бұрын

James Ghazanfar no shit, he profits of the ideas he espouses because it serves as a source of confirmation for those that hold the same belief. Why would he be open to adopting a stance that doesn't align with his audience's beliefs?

@JamesGhazanfar

6 жыл бұрын

Mate its called change my mind he can chat whatever crud he wants but if hes not 'open' to others opinions in the aim to have his mind changed then why even bother with the show and its name.

@sicktunesllc3717

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

@An0niem4

6 жыл бұрын

Because that's what he promotes. Open conversations, attaining the possibility to adopt another stance, are what he claims the 'change my mind' series is about.

@jakebennett2392

6 жыл бұрын

'The True Geordie'

Just to let you know Mr. Steven, we haven't forgotten about this, and it would be cool if you could just own up to it and take this loss with Yosef like a man. Maybe even have Yosef back on the show if possible. It would greatly regenerate any respect I may have lost for you by watching this video.

@Karljagerfield

Жыл бұрын

I would love to see him invite Yosef back on to have a more respectful discussion. I have a lot of respect for discussion and respect. We know you understand what’s off about this conversation. You didn’t let him speak once. Your strategy to stay dominant in the discussion was very apparent and to be completely honest man it was so rude😂 if you had actually had a discussion with him it would have been your best content. Even if it would have caused you to lay down your pride in front of a crowd of your supporters. He wasn’t calling you autistic he was calling an idea autistic. You know that though you just needed something to ensure your success so you used it to your advantage. That conversation was unfair in every aspect, and I have a hard time even calling it a conversation. It was 100% controlled and you were not interested in hearing what Yosef had to say whatsoever.

@mongreen81

Жыл бұрын

he would never invite him back on....he's a bully and they don't like to meet with any resistance

@OBviEZ

Жыл бұрын

it's mr. crowder btw

@americantyrant98

Жыл бұрын

Crowder got wrecked! As a conservative, I hate when the majority of conservatives support capitalism, and at the same time, they don't even realize that capitalism is responsible for cancel culture, censorship, and mass immigration. I'm not anti-capitalist per say, but capitalists should not have power.

@chriswade9616

Жыл бұрын

@@OBviEZ It's Mr. Domestic Abuse btw

The first kid was really bloody good. Crowder goes in there with a folder and is well prepared and even knows the subject which is going to be talked about. The kid went in blind.

@Vance731

Жыл бұрын

The first kid seemed good, but the mid side of good. Especially the moment he used the term “autistic” as a derogatory way to say something is stupid

@huliohuliohamijo

Жыл бұрын

@@Vance731 It's internet slang. In common or polite "normie" conversation that sounds bad, I agree, but it's a meme on the internet. My guess is that he is not used to debating people older than him in real life (who are more likely to be normies) so he didn't adjust his way of speaking. Although it wasn't a smart move, he was not prepared and he is not a politician, so I think it can be excused.

@pai.chiart

Жыл бұрын

@@Vance731 he didn’t use it as a sub for stupid. He was using it to essentially mean overly formal/logical/ philosophical/ pedantic

@potatochicko

Жыл бұрын

@@Vance731 You could definitely say that, but it's a kid, and that kind of language, respectful or not, comes up in regular conversation around him all the time due to kids just throwing in words for the sake of it. To hold against him that and one other slip up that came up in the heat of the moment especially when he was coming in blind and against the crowd is pretty messed up considering he was very concise with the rest of his words and had a legitimate argument. I feel like anyone with social skills and, hell, MOST LIKELY also had a phase of just throwing in certain words for no reason when they were younger, would clearly see that.

@jeffforsythe9514

Жыл бұрын

​ It is all quite simple really. When we are born our destiny has already been decided based upon our actions in our previous lives. Any interference by man, socialism, is interfering with God's will. There are exceptions, but very few. Mother Theresa once said, the more people that I help, the further from God I feel. Interesting, no?...........................Falun Dafa

Crowder is resorting to bullying tactics because that Yusef dude is actually well-informed and isn't the SJW snowflake he is used to. Poor show man, I had more respect for him before this.

@MrKosobi

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I have no idea how can anyone respect Crowder in a first place. His whole strategy is cherry-picking teenagers or people in their early 20's who know jackshit about economics and social dogmas to appear superior in comparison. This kid is certainly bright, but he is still an intellectual light-weight (no doubt he will become much better with age tho), and it was already enough to showcase how silly Crowder is in reality. He wouldn't last 5 seconds against actual left-wing intellectuals.

@mansfield360

5 жыл бұрын

MrKosobi like who Bernie? 😂

@MrKosobi

5 жыл бұрын

@@mansfield360 you don't know that there are left-wing intellectuals? In what kind of echo chamber do you live in oO There are FAR more left-wing intellectuals than right-wing.

@mansfield360

5 жыл бұрын

MrKosobi I think we should stop spending money on new military equipment and instead save the money up for a budget when we need it and start using money to research more advance technologies so when we go to war we can have a safety net of money we can use to build better equipment that will last longer I think clean energy and civil engineering is needed for future to be good but I don’t agree with globalization it would only slow us down in figuring out world problems same with micro aggressions and forcing equal demographics we should employ the best people not choose people based on their race progressives lately are doing the exact opposite

@JBHACKSAW

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrKosobi yusef may not be well known but he certainly didn't appear a lightweight. He correctly pointed out that if Crowder wanted to stick to his definition of evil, i.e. redistributing something not earned as morally reprehensible, any redistribution is immoral, no matter whether it's a good or a commodity. That is intellectually sharp for me. And frankly it left Crowder hiding for cover under misdirection.

The one time an intelligent young man joined Crowder for discussion he completely panicked and ran him off the stage. He couldn’t get over it, constantly returning to his emotions and making remarks about yuseph.

@contentlobby3824

3 жыл бұрын

If you don’t debate the topic, and use what I’d call a rather disgusting insult. Fuck you.

@contentlobby3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnockManJo killing millions of people isn’t nuanced. It’s wrong. But I wouldn’t expect a socialist to understand that killing is wrong.

@contentlobby3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@KnockManJo “if you use logic your autistic” Fuck you.

@bodhitreesocial

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this guy isn’t actually THAT good at debating there’s a lot of flaws in his arguments.

@contentlobby3824

3 жыл бұрын

@@bodhitreesocial okay mr. Kill millions. Go fuck yourself ya Nazi.

Yusef fucking wrecked him.

@Penguinzero1

4 ай бұрын

No

@TheJohnCooperShow

3 ай бұрын

@@Penguinzero1 yes

@zyradium

28 күн бұрын

@@TheJohnCooperShow no

@TheJohnCooperShow

28 күн бұрын

@@zyradium yes

@EricCortman

12 күн бұрын

@@TheJohnCooperShow no

wow, the kid won. the setup of the show gives the “interviewee” SUCH a disadvantage and he clearly still proved his point. steven, to me, seems like one of those wannabe nelk-boys, charging up a bunch of do-do college boys in red hats who scream “let’s go” at nearly everything. every time the kid brings up a point, he gets the crowd going again.

@SutureEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) You also lean into them physically which is not a proper debate forum. It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space! ALSO he insults the kids haircut which is extremely rude. The kid did not even call him autistic. He said the idea had pieces of autism throughout. That is completely different. Crowder knew he lost.

@thevangelist777

Жыл бұрын

Crowd Work Crowder

@zkhcohen

Жыл бұрын

I love finding someone who doesn't know Steven Crowder and immediately picks up on his grift. Yes. That's EXACTLY what he's known for. He's just another shill who's found the formula to making money off of young men through weak political commentary and logically/factually deficient debates.

@kalrainey

Жыл бұрын

@@SutureEntertainment its not a debate bro. the segment is called 'change my mind'. whether or not his mind was changed idj

@ianrust3785

Жыл бұрын

@@kalrainey The way you change a persons mind is through rational argument, and if they don't agree it becomes a debate.

Holy crap Crowder... LET YUSEF SPEAK. You interrupted him every time the kid tried to make a point. You get 6 inches away from his face, wave your hand around and you were the one that played to the crowd. You really came off as condescending and you had the balls to tell him that he was being disrespectful? Also, he wasn’t saying that you were autistic... He was saying a certain idea was autistic. Instead of tying who you are with what you believe and getting offended (which is the way someone you usually make fun of would act like) you actually listen and take in what the person talking was saying like a REAL CONVERSATION. You were the one that was acting like you were in a big crowd of people, not him. You constantly steered the conversation the way that you wanted it and the way you were prepared for. If this would have been in a fair environment where BOTH people had a microphone then I wonder if you would have came out on top of this argument. I’ve been a fan for a long time, but this is the lowest I’ve ever thought of you. #BringBackYusef

@xKingxTitus

6 жыл бұрын

Seriously! I'm a fan but Crowder was very aggressive, almost trying to intimidate. Also the way he used the word "autistic" wasn't as an insult, but as a synonym for pedantic. #BringBackYousef

@magnusmoty

6 жыл бұрын

How does exactly idea of libertariaism is related to this medical condition? Let's face it, Crowder wasn't polite, but Yusef hadn't had any good idea worth listening to in the first place.

@yoshiro4469

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

@diranshouse7061

5 жыл бұрын

@@magnusmoty well Steven never gave him a chance. Steven was prepared, yet he was shocked by the kids level of general Intelligence. Say what you want, but you can hear it when someone is sharp. And this kid was. Defined terms on the fly, held on to ideas Crowder had touched on and was able to redirect Crowder back to a point Crowder had made that he wanted to explore more. Caught Steven on his failure to distinguish between public good and commodity in his original definition of Socialism. A very good point, seeing as Steven was the one who wanted to be particular about defining everything. Steven was shook all through the discussion, and wasn't able to follow his script. That's why he feigned being insulted and then proceeded to insult the kid multiple times. Yet the kid did not respond in kind. Except calling him out for being mad coz he was losing the debate.

@magnusmoty

5 жыл бұрын

@@diranshouse7061 Okay, Crowder didn't let him speak and this is bad. But I wonder, if Yusef's pro-socialist rhetoric is so good, why do we never see it anywhere else? Why don't socialists generally engage in debates, if there is this holy graal of real socialistic truth? Why don't socialists sit somewhere with banner saying "Socialism is good, change my mind" and gather views by debunking capitalists' viewpoints?

#BringBackYusef

@sushiandwasabi1014

6 жыл бұрын

ERIK SMITH #cantdefineshill

@Rationalreason777

6 жыл бұрын

Fanboy Joe. Lol.

@JC-ok4yx

6 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see an actual debate. This wasn't really a debate but more just arguing terms and definitions. Socialism is great in theory but when you debate the implementation that's where it falls apart.

@gloryglory8542

6 жыл бұрын

J Corley Yusef was making nationalist points. A nationalist is concerned with his people’s well being first, and abstract principles of morality (eg. the NAP) last. As a nationalist I have no problem switching between free market principles in one area to protectionism in another and socialism in a third other. If you were interested by Yusef’s perspective, look up youtubers like Alternative Hypothesis, Red Ice TV and podcasts like the Daily Shoah and Fash The Nation.

@SeniorShinanigans

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Poe deflection

Steven got fucking cooked.

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

Cooked? Yusuf called him a shill and he couldnt even define what a shill was LMAO

@MonkeyDIvan

10 ай бұрын

@@skinnie2838 Nice whataboutism.

@_ash_z

9 ай бұрын

​@@skinnie2838 Steven lost hard. He got upset & shut down the debate because he knew he was losing. "Change my mind"? Lol sure, he doesn't want his mind changed.

@carmellahoney3599

5 ай бұрын

@@skinnie2838you're under every comment. stop glazing & meat riding

yousif really did great , what a young well spoken fellow.

@SerdnaZe

Жыл бұрын

He’s highly intelligent. He speaks with confidence because he knows his stuff.

@dgmr22

Жыл бұрын

I like Crowders content, but he only moved on from Yousif because he couldn't handle him like he does most students who are usually overtly liberal and cannot back up what they say. Yousif was right, Crowder was losing.

@robjones3528

Жыл бұрын

On what point was Yousif correct? I'll save you the time, none. But feel free to try.

@taylorwilliams9694

Жыл бұрын

@@robjones3528 You sound like a catty school girl lmao

@robjones3528

Жыл бұрын

@@taylorwilliams9694 Ah, you couldn't present an argument. So cute.

I’m not a socialist but I’d like to hear more about Yusef

@bobboberts5183

3 жыл бұрын

There’s a clip you can find on KZread from the Nick Fuentes show

@tomgilson9180

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, he wasn't getting to finish as Crowder had the power of the mic and kept pulling it away. I think the guy was making solid points and Crowder kept changing direction.

@jacobwhelan45

3 жыл бұрын

Bare in mind, he has to make time for everyone. If he had all day and night I’m sure it would’ve been different. This was a spontaneous debate. He wasn’t exactly ready and had to adapt to the new environment of over 100 people with many wanting to sit down with him. No one in these comments are thinking about that

@bobboberts5183

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobwhelan45 he literally kicked him out because he lost. If he wanted to get things done why not just prove him wrong and end it. He was incredibly aggressive for no reason too. And began to insult yusef and say that the opposite was going on. He’s just as bad as the people he talks down to.. And I’m happy I can see that now .

@blueyedevil1531

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobwhelan45 yeah I love crowder but he lost his cool and if youre a real crowder fan you can tell he completely changed his outward appearance with yousef

Crowder goes on for like 10 minutes. Crowder: "...Correct?" Yousef: "Not exac-" Crowder: "You seem to like to talk in longer paragraphs."

@sergiobricenos

4 жыл бұрын

@DeadlyNeedle ! He didn't call him autistic. Watch the video again.

@sergiobricenos

4 жыл бұрын

@DeadlyNeedle ! Oh, so you are one of those (people who just can't seem to let go of a word, like Crowder, except he uses it to antagonize and continually insult his fellow debater). He never called Crowder autistic. Period. Now, again. If you really disagree on my view, it's totally ok. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Maybe not so in this case, because we are talking facts, but still, ultimately opinion are subjective. So even if most people would agree that Crowder lost the debate despite his continuous use of cheap tactics, you are free to go on and say "No. That's not what happened."

@dec5847

4 жыл бұрын

@@sergiobricenos You are straw-manning his position. DeadlyNeedle never said Yousef called Crowder autistic. You are literally arguing with a wall right now because that's not his position.

@sergiobricenos

4 жыл бұрын

@@dec5847 I think I have been arguing with a wall the whole time since my first response.

@dec5847

4 жыл бұрын

@@sergiobricenos You would be correct. Since your first response you have misrepresented his position. Thanks for admitting to being an idiot.

“The question isn’t do we have socialization, it’s how much”

Crowder lost harder than he lost his wife

@we_are_so_back

Жыл бұрын

hahahahaha

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

He was dealing with a gold digger who sneakily released an edited clip of a "fight" that barely registers as a 2 on a scale of 1-abuse. I have never gotten into his show because it tries to be funny when it just isnt but after all the leftist hate towards him this week im subbing and getting mug club. And Yusuf got owned in this debate.

@we_are_so_back

Жыл бұрын

@@skinnie2838 yeah i saw the vid was apparently edited as well. but please explain how Yusuf is the one who “got owned”?

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

@@we_are_so_back When he called Crowder a shill but couldnt define what a shill was I knew he was just another dummy acting like he knew what he was talking about

@we_are_so_back

Жыл бұрын

@@skinnie2838 crowder literally kept interrupting him and getting triggered the whole time. Crowder was completely unable to address Yusuf’s main argument that capitalism and conservatism are at odds.

Yusef well done..Most people just say things without understanding what they are saying, you had an answer for every question and was calm and collected.

@a7xdisturbed774

5 жыл бұрын

Jonas Andersen except the only points he brought up were hypothetical and philosophical. He never brought up any valid and practical points for socialism and just bashed capitalism

@tex4096

5 жыл бұрын

@@a7xdisturbed774 Thats technicaly enough.

@cilantro_4839

5 жыл бұрын

@@a7xdisturbed774 He actually did bring up some decent points. But he could hardly make any of them because Steven took the mic away before he could barely muster a sentence! One point he brought up was great, let me explain, I'll give you the definition of socialism "a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole." Yusef brought up that government funding of things like the police force is inherently, as least a bit socialist. And Steven tried to debunk this by saying things like the police force are a social good, so it doesn't count. But there is no distinction in the true definition that makes any note of public goods or commodities. So here, Steven is kinda just pulling things out of his ass. The government simply taking, and redistributing is in fact, a socialist ideology, period. Welfare is 100% socialist, and it is necessary to a certain degree (people who are truly disabled, needy, temporarily unemployed/laid off) Steven is just nitpicking here and trying to make his own definitions for things. This young man isn't a socialist, he is just saying that not all parts of socialism is evil. Which I agree with. In a truly Capitalistic society you have a lot of problems, there is typically a huge divide between the poor and wealthy class, and virtually no middle class. And in a truly capitalistic society, your market will eventually crumble as the wealthy get too rich and greedy, the majority of poor cannot afford anything, and there is no wealth distribution. It causes everyone to go bankrupt almost immediately. The truth is, America is partially socialist in many ways. When you take a bowl of Capitalism, and sprinkle in just a bit of socialism, it works. Also, imagine a small indigenous tribe with 100 people or so. They will most likely be socialist by definition. They will be sharing things, distributing goods to each other, and helping one another out in order to survive as a whole. Anyone who takes too much and doesn't give anything back will probably be shunned. I don't think this is inherently evil. It is necessary for their survival. I think if Yusef was given a chance to talk, you would see that he isn't a socialist. He just believes some socialistic ideology is necessary. Steven also tried to put him in a box several times, berated him for using words like "chill" and "autistic" to disprove his entire points, which is something that the left love to do! Tried to create his own definitions, told Yusef that he talks in paragraphs (look how much Steven talks) and flat out lied many times (Germany has a minimum wage, and Norway does too, but in the form of negotiations made by trade unions)

@melissamorgan3482

5 жыл бұрын

@@a7xdisturbed774 You can't even judge Yusef's points because Crowder didn't give him enough time to substantiate any one of his arguments. Anyone uneducated would think Crowder 'won' this debate because he was always snatching the mic away from Yusef. Pathetic.

@a7xdisturbed774

5 жыл бұрын

Melissa Morgan no crowder just realized that point wasn’t going to go anywhere. Anyone educated would know that the points he made were purely hypothetical with no practicality. Also Yusuf was extremely rude and pretentious towards crowder. Yusuf can be calm and use all the big words he wants but he still lost

If the first kid couldn’t change his mind I don’t think the point of this exercise is honest.

@Zamire236

3 жыл бұрын

exactly he doesnt want his mind changed

@musicdiary5768

3 жыл бұрын

He would rather fly across 2 universes and back before he changes his mind.

@ryanquinn9197

3 жыл бұрын

@@musicdiary5768 the kid didn’t say anything convincing...

@musicdiary5768

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Quinn Given the 2 seconds that he was allowed at a time I think he did a pretty good job.

@JBonjubia

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah because he proved Socialism isn't evil but it'd be embarrassing to admit infront of his crowd of fans.

The amount of times crowder completely cut him off, absolutely changed the topic or asked a question to distract the fact that he was losing is absurd. The kid was making great points and Crowder knew he was losing so he kicked him. He also talked more than 3x the kid and made little to no good points.

Came back to watch Yusef sh*t on Crowder again. Lmao

Yusef was a stone cold, well spoken, terminator. He owned Crowder, BADLY. Crowder had a meltdown at 23:03 that he should not have let happen. 'Shill' was an embarrassing word to be triggered by and suggesting Yusef was being rude... focusing way too much on trivial words like that in his emotional tirade. Even having to debrief the crowd afterwards to try and recover. Cringe! Change his mind or not, Yusef obliterated!

@infopocalypse5006

5 жыл бұрын

@@fallenxangel105 no...you thought he won. But he didn't actually address the argument. He would make a fallacy then change subjects and went on long winded rants that were not about the debate issue.

@williambjork2777

5 жыл бұрын

@@infopocalypse5006 How did he go on "long winded rants" when crowder barely would let him finish a sentence before pulling the mic away. Lol. You are literally describing the actions of the person you are trying to defend. Projection at its finest

@ceekat8627

5 жыл бұрын

John Adams said " "Avarice will break this Constitution like a whale breaks through a net" and he said "This Constitution (or government, can't remember which right now) is only for a moral and religious people and is wholly inadequate for the governing of any other". Morality and self-sacrifice can't be legislated and forced through socialism because it always ends up worse, sometimes MUCH WORSE; so we've got to figure out how to influence people to change in order to save the Republic.

@steeplesheeple

5 жыл бұрын

TheFirstCause ssssss

@EvolPunk

5 жыл бұрын

using the work 'autistic' to begin with is not very admirable.

“Speaking in paragraphs” *barely lets him get a sentence in*

@smurfiennes

3 жыл бұрын

When you pepper your answer with sweet nicknames like autistic , etc., you don’t deserve to be heard anymore! It’s childish and rude.

@chiqui.marrero

3 жыл бұрын

@@smurfiennes If by “pepper” you mean the two instances where he says autistic and shill I would say that this debate was pretty unseasoned. I agree 100% that he should have refrained from saying that but that still doesn’t take away from the fact that instead of tackling his arguments Crowder diverts the conversation several times which is frustrating. Also you add “etc.” when you have more than two examples that can’t be listed.

@jamijohnny1067

3 жыл бұрын

@@smurfiennes only did it twice and made valid points

@bossycoconut847

3 жыл бұрын

@@smurfiennes I thought Crowder and conservatives don't get offended?

@tafaritaylor19

3 жыл бұрын

Deadass crowder is really a dick who was losing and got mad

don't debate someone, kick them off, and then proceed to make more points after the fact where he can't respond to or rebuttal those claims. Kind of a cheap shot.

@theetilesmith

Жыл бұрын

He allowed the people to make their points, and those points did not change his mind so yes, he threw them off of the panel and gave the audience his reasoning for why he still believes what he believes. You have to remember the premise of the show, which is to change his mind.

@EnigmaticAnamoly

Жыл бұрын

@@theetilesmith In most cases, yes. But with Yousef, Crowder got owned. Watch and pay close attention to the last five minutes or so of that conversation. Crowder kept cutting Yousef off before he could even finish most of his points, and he continually misrepresented what Yousef was actually saying. At the end, Crowder kicks him out and then Crowder continues making his point without Yousef there to rebute.

@Imrightandyourewrong

Жыл бұрын

@@EnigmaticAnamolyI see where you’re coming from but he actually didn’t.

@ScoopPoopYe

Жыл бұрын

@@Imrightandyourewrong you see where he’s coming from but at the same time he didn’t do it? What are you seeing then ?

@shuntley23

Жыл бұрын

No, I believe Crowder was getting annoyed with him and that's why he kicked him off. Crowder definitely owned him and Josef was parroting what his professors talking points are for the argument of socialism. As most professors indoctrinate students with leftist and Marxist ideology that encourages socialism. Josef was stating things as facts when they certainly were not. He was trying to use big words to sound more intelligent and talk in circles with no actual facts. He did it with absolute confidence in attempt to win the argument that way. It is very obvious to me that he absolutely has leftist ideology as it was infused in all his talking points even though he claims he doesn't. He kept trying to use an argument about one politician to represent the whole Republican party bc the claim he made is the exact opposite of what the party's views are. He made vast generalizations and started an argument which was not about the topic at hand. He was trying to state "Equity" as one of his talking points which means everyone needs to have the same outcome. Which is absolutely impossible and dangerous ideology when everyone as an individual is different. "Equity" believes all racial disparities are only due to "systematic racism" whether it's income or academia inequalities. I put quotations because these are terms the left has created that hold no barring to actual facts and statistics. White supremacy is not embedded within our insitiutions and there are no policies to discriminate against POC. The environment you can grow up in or the culture you were raised in can definitely be an impact on your life economically. The left avoids anyone as an individual and pushes the mindset that your skin color is your identity. With capatalism, if you work hard, get an education, don't get pregnant before your married then you will most likely be able to be in the middle class. You'll have to start at low wages since you don't have skills and experience as of yet but you can personally advance throughout your career and increase your salary over the years. He tried to show socialism as an success to Scandinavian countries which that argument was false. Those countries, like Sweden, use a free market system but have a higher social net so they are not actual full socialist countries. Sweden did try to have a more socialist country in the 70s or so and they were not able to sustain their economy so they implemented free market. An actual full socialist country has never been successful and in most times it became communist. They couldn't survive economically and created mass genicides. No one can figure out how we, America, could sustain economically and where thst money would come from to actually support socialism long term. Eventually, everyone would be poor and remain poor. We would lose our place in the world and no one can prosper. We became one of the richest countries in the world because of capitalism. We also would loose innovation and the quality of our healthcare and all institutions etc. It is immoral because it takes away our rights as an individual. It forces us with massive governmental intervention who will force people to give their money to someone else who do anything to contribute to it. Which that is absolute theft and tyranny. He used poverty as a weak motivation for him wanting a full socialist country. We do have social nets for elders and people who are improverished or in need like medicaid, welfare money, food stamps, section 8, etc. Capitalism gives you the opportunity no matter what race or socioeconomical class you are to succeed and have the potential to become rich. You are able to have the fruits of your own labor. It's entirely up to the individual and the choices they make but with socialism you can never get ahead, everyone is the same financially, and hard work gets you nowhere, etc. So no, I don't think Josef owned the argument because he kind of talked semantics, presented falsehoods as facts, and tried to use big words to sound more articulate when he did not have the correct definition with some of the words he used.

Crowder doesn’t want his mind change. Not a good faith debate

@AppleOfThineEye

7 ай бұрын

Right, because calling your opposition "autistic" and "shill" is so good faith. 🙄

We get it Crowder, he called something 'autistic'. Yusef made an off-hand comment in a high pressure environment. He also tried to take accountability for his words, tried to redefine his words in a civil fashion after you claimed moral outrage, but you still let yourself repeatedly circle back to that original slight.

@actesb6748

6 жыл бұрын

yeah that was pretty fucked. Honestly anyone in that kids position would definitely feel a tad' out of place. You'd expect someone like Crowder to let it go, but he kinda ran with it and honestly it took away from the total experience.

@AdderTude

6 жыл бұрын

The point is for a civil discussion to happen, he shouldn't have made the comment in the first place. Instead of outright admitting his fault or at least apologizing, Yusef tried to lamely justify his use of "autistic." It's rather typical of leftists to issue an insult in civil discourse and then try to explain why they're right. Any attempt to defend Yusef's comment only demonstrates that those kind of people want to validate personal insults during an exchange of ideas and call it "civil." It simply doesn't work.

@ihsahnakerfeldt9280

6 жыл бұрын

AdderTude Why do you think everyone advocating for some from of socialism is necessarily a leftist?

@AdderTude

6 жыл бұрын

What manner of logic had you extrapolate a claim I never explicitly made?

@ihsahnakerfeldt9280

6 жыл бұрын

AdderTude "it's rather typical of leftists to issue an insult in civil discourse" You think Yusuf is a leftist. What is the basis of that assumption?

Germany does have a minimum wage of 8,84 Euros since three years now. Do your research Crowder... You already lost me at that point

@sicktunesllc3717

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

@makcity7850

5 жыл бұрын

This really should be called, "I won't change my mind, even if you are right".

@ugsdit5296

5 жыл бұрын

and Denmark does have progressive taxes according to google top results, this was no doubt stevens weakest Change my mind

Yusef won this debate. been a fan for years, but this is a time i can confidently say you lost BRING YUSEF BACK

Let’s be honest that first guy dodged a HUGE bullet not being allowed to participate

@SutureEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) You also lean into them physically which is not a proper debate forum. It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space! ALSO he insults the kids haircut which is extremely rude. The kid did not even call him autistic. He said the idea had pieces of autism throughout. That is completely different. Crowder knew he lost.

That Yusuf kid was really smart. I felt like Steven was trying really hard to change Yusuf's mind, rather than the other way around. I don't like how Steven conducted the debate with him.

@roycegracie11

6 жыл бұрын

Steven immediately recognized he was intelectually outmatched big time. It was almost like he was looking for approval on this one.

@jesse8737

6 жыл бұрын

What drugs are you on?

@littlebighead15

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Forslund TLDR. Learn to use a comma fuck stick

@colinc8218

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Forslund are you talking about when he said shill? Because if you were actually listening to Yousefs substantives then you must recognise he is far more knowledgable than most. It speaks for itself when Crowder literally ended the debate in fear and latched onto the use of the word “Autistic” instead of the actual arguments; no doubt because he knew he’d already lost.

@Culwhickbeocca

6 жыл бұрын

I do think that Yosef has a point that big businesses hinder society, and that large economic inequality does provoke violence. I do think there is a solution that will help. That is to ban all lobbying. And prosecute lobbying. I don’t know if there are rules and laws that already do that in a sense. I am not educated in that area, except that in the book The Chickenshit Club, there is a grand historical documentation of corrupt leadership in our legal prosecution system, where the repetitive example is of the defense bar of the United States Lawyers Defense Bar Association ( I made that name to make it easy for people not educated in what a defense bar is) is retaliatory against the prosecuting Attorney General, or the lawyers who prosecute, every single time they went after executives of big businesses, and also when they prosecute their enablers (the certified public accountants, high level managers of banks overseeing transactions). The retaliation is so vast, that since the 90’s and early 2000’s, there has been widespread fear among the prosecutors (lawyers working for the government) that is they prosecute too hard, they lose their careers. Why is this obvious? That is easy; notice that these lawyers no longer prosecute the executives. The lawsuits of today’s big businesses prosecution is a fee that looks like a slap on the wrist, and even bailing out the guilty corporations. No executives go to prison today, in a practical and impactful leven that discourages stupidity like selling securities backed by crap mortgages. And this happens because the defense bar makes a profit from retaliating against the prosecution of big businesses, and so the Bar Associations is a puppet of large businesses with executives sticking their hands up the defense bar’s behinds and having them do their bidding. It comes down to the incredibly huge profits that corporations pay the defense lawyers. Prosecutors never come close to half a fraction of the income these defense lawyers make. Thus, the defense attorneys are overcompensated while the prosecution is under funded, underemployed, and low in morale. The bar association for lawyers have a huge influence on law, because though they don’t make them, they interpret them and choose how and what to enforce. As you can see, my answer is not socialist, but rather to support the objective role of the government under a capitalist nation. When organizations like Bar Associations for Attorneys is influenced by large businesses, it no longer is capable of objectivity. They are biased. Notice another example, which is large communication businesses moving to control and censor internet use by means of compensating or financially denying profits according to that businesses interest. You think the prosecuting attorneys can properly defend the people when there is a violation against citizens rights to access to information? Though some will argue that information is a privilege, not a right. How about the platform or the availability to information? Some may even argue that a platform for information is also a privilege. I disagree, and I bet the defense bar will agree. Further, the problem is that compensating defense lawyers isn’t known as lobbying. Lobbying is to pay for making or taking down laws. But few people see that paying for the interpretation and bias of prosecution or defense relating to this laws are also corporate influence. It is lot lobbying only because the definition in the dictionary doesn’t agree with it, but for practical purposes it is indeed lobbying. It is the corporate influence in how to and what to interpret of the law.

Yusuf got him on this one tbh. If it is 'Change My Mind' then you have be open to the slight possibility of that happening. Rather than digging in, cutting him off, or getting unnecessarily defensive about a word like 'autistic'. It's ok to concede sometimes. Just my feedback. Great series!

@SlayerFatality

6 жыл бұрын

Zuby this is a good and fair comment. Keeping it positive and relevant.

@sicktunesllc3717

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

@DiogoPT9

6 жыл бұрын

Yep i used to agree in some Steven Subjects, but ge got rekt it was clearly that he was not willing to change his mind even if he could not explain himself properly in that instance. He even got triggered when he always complain about "leftards sensitive people".

@ww3soulja

6 жыл бұрын

True

@PtylerBeats

6 жыл бұрын

I don’t think it’s about who “got” who, or who won the debate. It mostly boils down to fundamental beliefs. I agree he doesn’t really seem willing to change his mind even if he says he is. However, in the end, this is a conversation. And I think if Yusuf changed our mind, that’s great! If Steven changed your mind, that’s great! But I think the point of the video is to clearly state both viewpoints. If you think Yusuf won the debate, then I think the video served it purpose lol I guess my point is, this isn’t a win or lose debate. It’s supposed to be a civil conversation about opposing views, even if this convo kind of went uncivil rather quickly haha

Crowder: "You speak in paragraphs..." Also Crowder: Speaks in paragraphs the entire debate.

That first guy absolutely demolished you 😂

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

Every argument yusef brought was literally in crowder handbook with facts that shows he was wrong. He was not destroyed lol

The distinction is clear between an intellectual and a loud mouth.

@slimonxviii3115

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder what would happen if you were to fuse them. Would that grant infinite power?

@godzpeedx7ii75

3 жыл бұрын

@@slimonxviii3115 nah

@slimonxviii3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@godzpeedx7ii75 Thank you for letting me know. I will be able to sleep soundly now.

@Proper_Time

3 жыл бұрын

@@slimonxviii3115 "ego is inversely proportional to knowledge"

@slimonxviii3115

3 жыл бұрын

@@Proper_Time Epic Einstein qoute I think, I might be wrong.

Germany has a minimum wage not sure if he doesn’t know or lying on purpose

@Victory987

4 жыл бұрын

€9.35

@luckierloser

4 жыл бұрын

@@Victory987 just a small thing: you put the € after the number. (nitpick I know)

@luckierloser

4 жыл бұрын

@Cameron Sole yes, obviously. But humor me and tell me why

@kungfuumango1018

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on country

@joaosoares7446

4 жыл бұрын

@@luckierloser The European Union did indeed usher a guideline on the use of the euro sign, stating it should be placed in front of the amount without any space in English, but after the amount in most other languages

"Like a battered housewife that won't leave her husband like 'ok I'll make the roast'" Personal experience, Crowder? That didn't age well

This whole topic can also be converted to "Robin Hood is evil. Change my mind."

This conversation would be different if there was two microphones. Change my mind

@outofthedumps

5 жыл бұрын

Flawess Grace Jordan Peterson: well, that depends on what you mean by microphone.

@outofthedumps

5 жыл бұрын

Mr Bell Well, from the Jugian archetypal idea of microphones that conclusion could be drawn, but the correct answer isn’t so obvious! What constitutes a microphone in terms of utility is manifold, and the hierarchical structure of that utility would point towards the type of microphone that would be needed for both people in the conversation, or if two microphones were needed at all. At any rate, I don’t think the equal distribution of microphones is the solution to this problem.

@alwins0n

5 жыл бұрын

Painful to watch him abuse his position of Power holding the microphone. He just cannot shut up

@Alex-oi7cd

5 жыл бұрын

alwins0n FACTS

@Dolphinjamez

5 жыл бұрын

@@outofthedumps *Grabs blunt* Can I have another, sir?

Could we have Yusef in another segment of change my mind and let him talk? Im a crowder fan don’t get me wrong but I kinda want to have someone that actually knows what their talking about on the other side of the mic.

@sajO5754

4 жыл бұрын

Crowder wants you to only use the example of Venezuela as a socialist country as this plays into his argument. The moron doesn't want you to bring up the example of the UK having a minimum wage or free health and education. His entire argument is ideological and based on cherry picking facts.

@georgeberes9899

4 жыл бұрын

@@sajO5754 lmao the UK is not socialist buddy, he wants the example of Venezuela because it is one of few truly socialist countries.

@sajO5754

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgeberes9899 So free education and health plus minimum wage is not socialism? Keep moving the goalposts until it fits your argument.

@georgeberes9899

4 жыл бұрын

@@sajO5754 If we defined socialism as taxes, then this would be a completely different argument. Higher minimum wages cause higher unemployment rates and fewer working hours, and free healthcare reduces the quality of healthcare. Take Canada as an example, when a Canadian needs treatment or surgery fast, they come to America as opposed to waiting weeks

@sajO5754

4 жыл бұрын

@@georgeberes9899 not really a hard question to answer........would you "define" free healthcare-education- minimum wage as socialism or not.

Here’s an argument I think Yusuf wanted to go to but was cut short. If Police, roads and firefighters are essential to a society’s continued prosperity, I would argue (and I think Yusuf would) that a healthy, educated population is as well. Which means making that a provided service for the population.

@GrandDan0is

Жыл бұрын

When educational institutions become solely government funded the administrations, educators, scholars, researchers will have en more of a tendency to lean left because the state is now the hand that feeds them. They pay it back by basing their research on leftist premises, in which they throw away data that goes against leftist narrative - Bjørn Lomborg and Helmuth Nyborg are two great examples from my country Denmark, where education is paid through taxes. This is why every communist or socialist society would send their political opposition to “re-education camps”. Sure you have the STEM-fields but even those are compromised due to leftist doctrine when the science isn’t protected from the government.

@TXLionHeart

Жыл бұрын

And who would be better at providing healthcare and education? The government or the free market?

@coreyfinn5532

Жыл бұрын

@@TXLionHeart Countries cannot go entirely socialist or entirely capitalist without turning into a melting pot of bad ideas. Do you want your house to burn down because you didn't pay the fire station a yearly fee? Do you want to be mugged because you couldn't afford protection money for the police? Do you want to die because you couldn't afford the hospital fee? Do you want to know nothing because you couldn't afford to go to school? These are industries that should be government funded. This sadly generates a few problems when they use their funding of the industry as an excuse to manipulate it but even private schools are being altered because of government-mandated courses for teachers to follow. What you can do instead is have a system like Singapore which is basically a mandatory medical savings account which upon use of that money is subsidized by the government it's a private health care which is publicly funded and medical costs can be spread between family members etc. pretty good if you ask me.

@TXLionHeart

Жыл бұрын

@@coreyfinn5532 I agree that Singapore has a good model, and just like some neighborhoods have mandatory HOA fees for certain things, they could add mandatory fees for private fire and security. At the end of the day, the people pay for everything anyway, and the private sector runs things better.

@celticstephenhill

Жыл бұрын

Man.. I would've loved to see where Yusef was going with that point. Too bad he was inturrupted 😕

Crowder literally told the audience to not get distracted by words like “autistic” and “shill”, but that’s EXACTLY what he did. He pretended to be offended even though Yusuf did not use them as insults to him, and Steven kicked him out because he knows he was going to lose

Crowder, what the hell was this? I'm a fan of your show, but this was just poor. You came off as condescending and aggressive and not as arguing in good faith at all. You kept interrupting and being rude. Yusef won this one handily.

@gomogo2000

6 жыл бұрын

sir kamyk How could Yousef have won? He thinks stealing money is moral.

@heresiarch.

6 жыл бұрын

gomogo2000 No he doesn't. Where in the video does he say stealing money is moral? You can't assume things if he isn't allowed to argue his points before being thrown off by Crowder.

@habo4442

6 жыл бұрын

gomogo2000 And producing goods in poor countrys, where the workers get close to nothing is moral ?

@sirkamyk9886

6 жыл бұрын

gomogo2000 Crowder thinks stealing money to fund a police and military is not immoral. Yusef thinks stealing money to fund healthcare is not immoral. It doesn't look like there's that much of a gap to me

@sirkamyk9886

6 жыл бұрын

LuckyLuk D Yes it is, because the workers get close to nothing by our standards but the truth is if those goods weren't produced there, they wouldn't even have that. They choose to work these jobs because the jobs make their lives better.

As a conservative, I found this very disappointing. He could have had an interesting and mutually beneficial discussion with the first participant. Wasted opportunity.

@trade_iv

3 жыл бұрын

Yosef the goat

@skyhigh5317

3 жыл бұрын

He really went against his own principles by steering the conversation away from the argument, and focusing on the small insult that kid made. In reality Steve was the one who was getting triggered.

@no_special_person

3 жыл бұрын

If it wasn't for invading every opponents personal space, and literally shutting the discussion down when his points are dissolved into false premises. Yosef would have gone on to easily dissect the bad arguments crowder was making. Yousuf has substance, crowder is a sophist. Thus explains this debate

@liamscott1905

3 жыл бұрын

@@skyhigh5317 No crowder was steering the conversation back ON topic, he’s literally doing the exact opposite of what you accuse him of.

@skyhigh5317

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamscott1905 Riiight, that's why he was repeatedly insulting him in the most passive-aggressive way saying shit like "someone like you would call you stupid", all over a light jab by Yosef. I could literally picture Ben Shapiro using those same types of insults, Yosef was just playing the same game as these right-wing entertainers, but when the roles reversed Crowder got triggered like a little bitch, so comical. This guy is a joke, his whole motive is to trigger college students for entertainment, and he got exposed here. If you couldn't see how obviously triggered Crowder got or how obviously rigged these "change my mind" bullshit debates are, I really don't know what to tell you.

Is so ridiculous how he tries to control the conversation to exhaust him and make him panic, this guy just murdered you. Goodbye

Crowder lost it and went to name calling- something he generally denounces, but he just couldn't handle getting spanked. And he had the nerve to call the respectable gentleman rude. Finally he had to just cut it off because he was at a loss.

“This is a conversation. Just you and me.” Continuously answers to the crowd and reacts to their banter.

@neliomad4music

5 жыл бұрын

Laughable

@joshuastevens1200

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly though

@davidjovel3155

5 жыл бұрын

🤷🏾‍♂️

you flopped here steven.... I got excited and expected some really strong points but you played the person you always mock - the defensive and triggered kid

@MusixPro4u

6 жыл бұрын

Agree entirely. Disappointing "performance" by Steven.

@tah1260

6 жыл бұрын

I agree, instead of gaining a clear understanding of what Steven actually believes, or countering the arguments of the participants, he gets bogged down in semantics which is a little less interesting to me.

@vincentvaleur3573

6 жыл бұрын

Dude got triggered over the word autistic then used himself. Then he gets even more triggered when he uses shrill like seriously dude.

@sicktunesllc3717

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

@gioruiz96

6 жыл бұрын

In a You He didn't really seem triggered. He kinda laughed it off really

"you like to sound very intelligent by speaking in paragraphs" the kid doesn't even get to finish sentences

Crowder is incredibly condescending

Yusef's IQ was too high to ride that ride, got kicked off.

@connelwilson8

6 жыл бұрын

Was funny when he used shill perfectly and got kicked off for it... If one shills for something, they back it enthusiasticly to convince others to do likewise

@corywashburn

6 жыл бұрын

Connel Wilson and then crowder misused the words completely! I can't quote him exactly but it was something like "oh now you're getting hypothetical like you're autistic" when autism is being unable to grasp hypotheticals. He's more interested in busting chops than actually arguing, that much is clear, especially when he's losing. And then he's like "I'm not mad" when he obviously was. It was very hard to watch and I'm not even a fan. Very embarrassing.

@CyberGraceZ

6 жыл бұрын

Except Yusef first used "autistic" in a negative way describing it as leaning towards fantasy and hypotheticals. I feel like you weren't quite listening in the beginning and thats okay, not everyone fully listens to things that they find uninteresting. And as for "shill", the full definition was not used by your fellow commentors. Its more than enthusiastically backing things to convince others. For starters you have to be an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler to even be part of the definition.

@BaChNiEr

6 жыл бұрын

Cory Washburn Why can't you quote him exactly when the quote is in the video you're commenting on, you fucking idiot.

@MrAustyn88

6 жыл бұрын

I think Crowder was threatened, and that he was being a condescending asshole

Crowder really got exposed in this video.

@kwekstar44

6 жыл бұрын

ally s , so he had to switch topics halfway thru. There were plenty of people itching to debate him on socialism.

@bleedorange691

6 жыл бұрын

How?

@Hpl1830

6 жыл бұрын

yea bouy are you Crowder's butt buddy? Always attacking anyone that points something negative about him hahaha

@smurfiennes

3 жыл бұрын

@@kwekstar44 you haven’t seen many of his videos? He has 1-2 topics normally.

@kwekstar44

3 жыл бұрын

@@smurfiennes yes used to watch him a lot 2 years ago. lol nice to hear from you. how are you?

Yusuf toe tagged Crowder

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

Calling someone insults in a civil debate is a sign they lost the argument

@caesarswrld5537

2 ай бұрын

@@theegamer8401 calling someone insults? what a complete misinterpretation. He referred to the libertarian viewpoint as autistic and that is genuinely a great word to to use to describe it

Nearly 6 years later and I've still never seen an intellectual massacre like the first debate

@Jack_gilbert158

6 ай бұрын

facts

@Penguinzero1

4 ай бұрын

Steven won

@Penguinzero1

4 ай бұрын

@@Jack_gilbert158Steven won

@yedder7628

4 ай бұрын

@@Penguinzero1did he tho

When Crowder starts losing, he starts attacking the words of debator and starts back tracking, what a baby.

@mastertemple8369

5 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it's about winning or losing, I thought it was a pretty good debate...Crowder is a bit of a stirrer I think but a harmless one...and Canadian too.

@JitSlayer

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't prove socialism isnt evil or change his mind that's the whole point

@samahndal

5 жыл бұрын

Let's see you do better in his shoes. I mean everyone is criticizing him, but I don't think many would have been able to do differently if put in his place.

@Kai555100

5 жыл бұрын

@@JitSlayer because crowder refuses that ,or why do u think he interrupts him multiple times

@gardetto265

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't even lose though. Were you listening to what he was saying? Or are you just piggy backing because Yusef said he was winning and crowder said "that was fair? I don't know why people think Yusef won that argument, he didn't. Most of you didn't even understand his language. Having good articulation doesn't say you won an argument. He wasn't making points, he was just talking and talking without giving direct answers

I am a strong conservative, that being said. I really liked how Yusef presented himself. I think Crowder was overwhelmed by this young mans confidence in his beliefs. Yusef was articulate, calm and quite frankly, enjoyable to watch. On the other side, Crowder came off as flustered and impatient.

@grega2362

5 жыл бұрын

He was impatient because Yuesef agreed the the debate question, then at every rebuttal he tried to change the premise of the debate. It is like stating upfront that this is a cat to argue for or against pet ownership, and stating that retrievers are better at fetching.

@couchcaptain9379

5 жыл бұрын

I totally disagree with Yusef, but he was definitely disrespected. Steven is correct in saying Denmark et cetera is not socialist, but he should have actually engaged him. In his later episodes doing this he is much more relaxed and respectful. I'm willing to grant stage fright for this one, but he definitely could have done a lot better.

@TemT8

5 жыл бұрын

@@grega2362 Sorry my friend. I just can't grasp what your trying to say. If your saying Crowder was. patient and not flustered or had a reason to be. That's cool, we all have opinions. And in this case, you can't change my opinion.

@Alex-tu1zy

5 жыл бұрын

Crowder wasn't overwhelmed by confidence - he was overwhelmed because he couldn't refute Yusef's points. He deflected, interrupted, and belittled Yusef in an attempt to cover this up.

@jeffmurphy6471

5 жыл бұрын

Steven is the kind of intelligent man that takes words by their definition. Yusuf seems like the type of child to TRY to get away with calling you names without you realizing. He was clearly embarrassed when he got called out for calling Steven autistic. He says things that are interesting but does any of it hold water? I would suspect that Yusuf looks intelligent to stupid people. Evident after Yusuf put out his highly edited version, then all you people started commenting.

I like how conservatives say liberals or anyone who differs from them are "snowflakes" and yet gets mad about being called autistic and shill

@Joemamaisallama2023

8 ай бұрын

Autism is a serious disability. Not a joke. Touch grass

@mistersandmere335

8 ай бұрын

@@Joemamaisallama2023yet I hear “conservatives” complain that homosexuality or liberals are a cancer to a society; cancer claims many lives. Either side don’t like to admit it but they’re both sensitive. Just as much as sensitivity, there’s as much ignorance too.

@zacharysylvester8349

7 ай бұрын

@@Joemamaisallama2023 Yeah but he didn't call Steven austistic... he referred to the concept as austistic and in an informal way to point out it's abstractness... as in the idea is physically unrealisable. That is not rude or offensive at all.

@carmellahoney3599

5 ай бұрын

@@Joemamaisallama2023not to everyone.. depends how severe the autism is

1rst one, was not a debate... was a interrogation. He did not respect him either, just Wanted full control at any time...

@Will_Aviles

Жыл бұрын

this guys describe what i mean perfectly "Suture Entertainment CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space!" "Raina It was really awful to watch 😬, he kept interrupting Yusef, accusing Yusef of “constantly speaking in paragraphs,” but Steven was speaking the entire time and barely let Yusef finish a single sentence. Steven rambled on and on about distracting nonsense and couldnt stayed focused, I was actually really interested in hearings Yusef speak more on his points. Really embarrassing to watch."

I love how although many of the people in the comments respect Crowder, they’re not so blindly loyal to him that they won’t acknowledge what he did wrong to Yousef👏🏽

@vipulvaibhav7353

4 жыл бұрын

What did he do wrong?

@mikeprez8880

4 жыл бұрын

@@vipulvaibhav7353 you're kidding us, right? I'm a loyal fan of Steven's and have been for years however, he's so used to debating people that lack knowledge on the topic of discussion that he'll let them talk for an hour. Yousef on the other hand was extremely knowledgeable and Steven wouldn't let him talk for more then 10 seconds without cutting him off and trying to sway the debate in the direction Steven wants it to go... If that's the case, then why is it "change my mind?" In all honesty, I truly believe Steven lost a lot of credibility on this video

@vipulvaibhav7353

4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeprez8880 because yousef wants to talk economics and he is having a debate on morality, is it good for country's economy? Maybe, but that's not the point of discussion the point of discussion is whether or not it's moral he says this in the "evil isn't harmful to society but morally reprehensible" And he stayed on the countries yousef brought up in his example his words turned out to be true those countries do in fact have no minimum wage and even when yousef asked why not and he didn't hear he still brought it back up and answered, so what's the problem. The only problem here is yousef talks in paragraphs and Steven talks in points that's it

@cheesy4582

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love Steven crowder and think he’s a smart guy but I immediately recognized this going on. This is definitely not Stevens strongest moment.

@kdizzy07

4 жыл бұрын

@@vipulvaibhav7353 Think of it like medicine. In small doses at the right places it can cure disease & even save lives but if you dump too much into the body it becomes poison. It doesn't mean medicine is evil. In the same way saying "Socialism is evil" is reductive.

Steven spent over twice as much time talking as Yusef did then unironically accused him of talking in paragraphs, AKA "you're not letting me control the conversation and dissect literally everything you say D:" Steven prepares for days for these "debates" and literally brought a binder full of resources (lol). Yet Yusef was polite and waited for his turn to talk, despite constantly being interrupted and not being allowed to speak. Then Steven gets triggered at him using the word autistic (which by the way he didn't actually call Steven autistic) You can really see how triggered Steven was towards the end when he seeks reassurance from the audience and starts trash talking back at Yusef before booting him. The point of these videos is to make Steven look "smart" and therefore correct, but the moment someone more intelligent than him arrives Steven cuts the debate because he knows he's losing. It was pathetic honestly.

@scottchetwind7449

5 жыл бұрын

Well said

@JadenDunn

5 жыл бұрын

I think he was more mad about it being the first guy stepping up proving him wrong 💀😂

@eternalray8194

5 жыл бұрын

It’s be great if someone actually recorded each of their time spent

@MarshyDitch

5 жыл бұрын

PurpleFiiilth you can’t put quotes around a summary of what he said put in your words. Quotation marks mean that you are quoting someone, and you referenced Steven beforehand meaning you were quoting him. But he never said that. So you just put words in his mouth

@letstalkaboutmath2121

5 жыл бұрын

I think that yusef did good but he failed a bit when started to use some more rude words, this let Crowder the opening to cut the conversation whenever he wants using "rudness" as an excuse. I think even that he could adjust a little his argument to make them stronger.

Yosef did really well on this. You got to give Steven credit for posting this. 99% of influencers would have deleted this and acted like it never happened.

@sshreddderr9409

Жыл бұрын

lol what? this kid talked dumb. how low is your IQ that you can’t perceive this? He got insulting because he got check from every angle that he came

@SutureEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

CLEARLY lost the first debate! Also not fair that he is the mediator and the debater at the same time. There needs to be a neutral party for a debate to take place. He has FULL control of the other person at all times and wont stop fidgeting with his water bottle when the other person is talking (which is extremely rude) You also lean into them physically which is not a proper debate forum. It is like an interrogation. He even leans into them when they have no personal space! ALSO he insults the kids haircut which is extremely rude. The kid did not even call him autistic. He said the idea had pieces of autism throughout. That is completely different. Crowder knew he lost.

@TAPnRACK_SEZ

Жыл бұрын

@@SutureEntertainment it’s his channel , cry

@SutureEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

@@TAPnRACK_SEZ all I said was that steven lost the debate. not sure why you said "cry"? the internet is weird

@TAPnRACK_SEZ

Жыл бұрын

@@SutureEntertainment appears like there was a lot more said than that. Sounds like whining. So, I said cry.

Watching Steven Crumble to a child was a breath of fresh air. It shows what someone when someone is actually intelligent they can defeat Stevens smart Deflection tactics and clever wordplay "Define Shill", gets the whole crowd against him, he defines it correctly and the Steven just forgets the whole conversation happened lmao

@jamesnite2157

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. He basically ended it with "Thanks for the conversation. Now please leave so I can pull out my binder and perform for the crowd where you can no longer reply"

@shanemac1646

11 ай бұрын

@@jamesnite2157 He's such a coward, he's backed out of three debates cuz he knows he'll get wrecked. Terrified of a five foot six, 140 pounds soaking wet Sam Seder.

@couchgrouches7667

10 ай бұрын

A child?

@_ash_z

9 ай бұрын

it's embarrassing, Steven got all upset & chucking insults when he started losing the debate with Yusef, then abruptly ends the debate haha

@AppleOfThineEye

7 ай бұрын

​​@@_ash_zSteven didn't insult him at all. Yusef, however, insulted Steven twice.

I am a Crowder fan, but everytime Yusef tried to make a good point Steven would take the mic away.

@liamscott1905

5 жыл бұрын

Not true.

@willingoYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@liamscott1905 You have convinced me.

@MrLangz0r

5 жыл бұрын

@@liamscott1905 Good way to argue m8. Do you have a binder for your facts?

@veronicam2942

5 жыл бұрын

What good points? I’m confused. He was deflecting with all these “ big words” and Crowder was making him explain it, because that’s the tactic of the left. They either scream and get emotional or use all these “ big words” to confuse people. A lot like politicians.

@jameswhite1031

5 жыл бұрын

What good points ?

conservative socialist, no crowder, he's a national socialist

i can see why his wife left him

@skinnie2838

Жыл бұрын

He was dealing with a gold digger who sneakily released an edited clip of a "fight" that barely registers as a 2 on a scale of 1-abuse. I have never gotten into his show because it tries to be funny when it just isnt but after all the leftist hate towards him this week im subbing and getting mug club.

@acanadian80

11 ай бұрын

@@skinnie2838Telling your 8 month pregnant wife that has a lot of hormones going through her, that you don’t love her and calling her names isn’t abuse? Damn that’s very scummy, you don’t know that emotional abuse is.

@skinnie2838

11 ай бұрын

@@acanadian80 She got caught cheating and was talk to very calmly. Take your pretend "emotional abuse" trash the fk on somewhere else.

@user-zf1jr1lo9e

8 ай бұрын

@@skinnie2838 You're disgusting, average rightoid.

@somenteasescrituras4064

7 ай бұрын

​@@acanadian80 Stop

at 25:10 the security guard helps Yusef cross the chain back into the crowd, and gave him a lil double pat on the back. Very nice gesture from an old-timer. Hope they feel confident in our generations.

@LeannaBanana

Жыл бұрын

That’s actually Steven’s pops!

Yusef’s living rent free in your head

@HowToSandAFloor

3 жыл бұрын

This is a king comment

@MrDanielfff777

3 жыл бұрын

True, kept bringing him up lol

@Justin33B

3 жыл бұрын

Smh Tik tok comments

@JeffreyPham79

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe, but... You can own someone in an argument especially with a crowd and still be wrong. Getting the up on someone in these types of debates is a skill that doesn't really require you to be correct.

@williamelanningjr5440

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeffreyPham79 It is easy to own someone who believes in socialism.

Would like a rematch between Steven and Yusef on a more neutral platform.

@HairyNippy

3 жыл бұрын

with a mod and a fact checker, Yousef would get another W for sure

@formyownedification3879

3 жыл бұрын

@@HairyNippy lol what? Were you watching a different video?

@Rydizzle2

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, I think “change my mind” has gotten too big. Crowder isn’t just debating but he’s playing to the crowd too. It’s natural, but takes away from the vids

@belacstudios8376

3 жыл бұрын

@@formyownedification3879 Watch Destiny react to this video he explains it well

@steauafan4ever

3 жыл бұрын

@@HairyNippy yeah he would sweep the floor with Crowder.

Alex “I’m not 18” Steven “ I can’t film you” Camera guy “slowly turns other way after already filming his face.”

“You speak in longer paragraphs.” Proceeds to talk for 3 minutes.

When Crowder closes his eyes at night he can still see Yusef.

@fanwee5048

3 жыл бұрын

Yusef is his boogie man

@brotherbrod

3 жыл бұрын

now imagine if he debated people like Sam Seeder, Vaush, Destiny, Kyle Kulinski, Contra Points, or anyone else who is left leaning and well spoken who knows more about politics than a first year college student. sheesh. probably why has never has and never will.

@Scarlazer

3 жыл бұрын

Yusef can't remember Steven cuz he wasn't looking at him at all lol

@captainoblivionthicc1004

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scarlazer i mean its hard to look at something that doesn’t sit still

@billystanton1522

3 жыл бұрын

Yusef just made common failed arguments of the average socialist. Yusef pointed to capitalist countries as examples of successful socialist countries

I think Yusef was just too intelligent for Crowder, and I am a fan of his. Yousef was really out of Crowder's league here. Yusef did a really good job making his arguments and maintained a calm demeanor.

@DeezNeez01

6 жыл бұрын

yea bouy nope. I am a DIE HARD Ron Paul Republican. You know what they say about assuming?

@slipstream27

6 жыл бұрын

Add a 'yeeeehaaawww' next time DeezNeez01

@DeezNeez01

6 жыл бұрын

You're an idiot. #Cardcarryingidiot

@Winning781

6 жыл бұрын

Yusef and Ben Shapiro next! 👍

@sicktunesllc3717

6 жыл бұрын

www.change.org/p/steven-crowder-get-yusef-back-on-youtube

Sometimes you see Steven get really persuasive and sour ounce someone from an opposing side has a really good argument. At the end of the day, truth isn't really his main objective, he's trying to prove something, and sometime he gets really dirty trying to do it, you just have to keep that in mind.

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

The only time he got sour is when the kid started using insults. Lmao he didn't wanna continue down that road.

Crowder met his match with the first guy IMO. I think he raised some valid points that Steven didn't address as much as he should have. I am by no means a socialist (quite the opposite in fact) however all arguments are worth pondering to some degree. Steven weasels in and out of the young man's arguments by constantly shifting to different segments of the argument.

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

Because the kid wasn't adressing the main topic which is socialism is evil. Not does socialism kinda work. Is socialism evil. Kid also used insults to try and prove a point which never works.

Crowdy was so salty, because he got destroyed

@fruitypeebils

6 жыл бұрын

im having flashbacks to jontron vs destiny

@lofty3355

6 жыл бұрын

fruitypeebils dude.. that was a salt massacre

@RoboPutinPresidentinCE

6 жыл бұрын

16:17 your welcome, did you even watch the debate? He called him (a libertarian or at least his way of thinking autistic, there by defining him as autistic?) Or what do you mean?

@anthonyadams3138

6 жыл бұрын

RoboPutin 4 President in 4000CE he clearly said the frame of thought was autistic..not Steven. Try again

Since when do Germany, Sweden and Finland not have a minimum wage?

@emptyforrest

6 жыл бұрын

minimum wages are enforced by the government. our so called "minimum wages" are enfoced by the diffrent labour unions.

@tinymarethyu810

6 жыл бұрын

emptyforrest Germany at least has both. A enforced law by government but additionally work sector minimum wages

@mayorofrlyeh8042

6 жыл бұрын

Correct. I am from Germany and we indeed do have minimum wage here and it is actually not that new anymore. Crowder needs to get his facts straight.

@tinymarethyu810

6 жыл бұрын

Mayor of R'lyeh genau! Even though I have kinda the same view, you can't just bring up some wrong facts.

@mayorofrlyeh8042

6 жыл бұрын

Tiny Marethyu Yeah, it just shows how weak his arguments are and that you he is just in it for a group mentality not because facts or reason convinced you. It is not the first time he is delivering wrong facts that especially the uninformed and those who just want their pathological world view confirmed just swallow.

This video is one of the best socialism promoting videos, because listening to Crowder’s “arguments” just makes you study socialism

@theegamer8401

7 ай бұрын

And see that it's flawed in almost every country it's implemented in.

@lesunshineworshiper11

6 ай бұрын

@@theegamer8401Not as flawed as this system that throws away our tax money and only provides services like healthcare to the rich

@himacho8771

6 ай бұрын

@@lesunshineworshiper11 the most insane thing is the people who arent even in the top 1% and dont profit from this also advocate for this system lol

@fifiadan

4 ай бұрын

@@theegamer8401Then you also see that capitalism is flawed every were it exists and its not black and white and people who reduce it such are being dishonest.

@theegamer8401

4 ай бұрын

@@fifiadan not even close to as flawed. And I don't think it's super simple. There are a lot of statistics as well. But I also believe morally as well socialism is very very wrong

Yusef did well. Shilling is just a way to say more with less and we all try to do that when time is running out. I'm glad you sent some props to him for 'going into the fire'. I feel like he had way more to say for a different debate format. He didn't change my mind, but the merits of his arguments had to be dealt with after he left. The beatdown happened after he was gone. He probably deserves another shot!

@jediplays9180

Жыл бұрын

your forgetting the part where he called him autistic

@sovl2178

Жыл бұрын

​@@jediplays9180 Is that a no-no word?

@jediplays9180

Жыл бұрын

@@sovl2178 no it's not

Steve kinda dropped the ball on Yusef. He could have had an actual conversation but was instead concerned about entertaining the crowd.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

The problem Yusef had was his lack of understanding on socialism. Minimum wage has nothing to do with socialism.

@Bilal-lq1nd

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 Price floors are socialist, stops process of free market

@christianolsen2388

3 жыл бұрын

@@bighands69 There goes a lot of things within the terms Socialism. I am from Denmark. A socialist inspired (inspired being a key word) system. It works a lot better than the system in the US (yes I have personal experience with the system). But there is absolutely bad and terrible parts of socialism. But Crowder definitely dropped the ball on this one. And I am almost always on his side.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bilal-lq1nd No. Minimum wage is not socialist. It is not part of shared ownership. Taxation, healthcare, wage controls or even rent controls are not socialist. I am not saying they are good or bad just that they are not socialism.

@bighands69

3 жыл бұрын

@@christianolsen2388 You cannot just throw the term socialist around and bend it to mean different things. It is a philosophical term that revolves around complete population ownership. Denmark is nowhere near the living standards of the US.

What the hell does Crowder mean by "speaking in paragraphs"?

@mayam4797

6 жыл бұрын

Dee Ef Sea that bothered me as well; Yusuf barely got a thought in 🤔 I guess Lowder wanted one word answers

@BTypeGuy

6 жыл бұрын

Crowder got agitated because Yousef was using big words; Crowder's brain was confused and interpreted his words as paragraphs.

@mayam4797

6 жыл бұрын

Boffano Olano precisely..if everyone put their bias aside, anyone with any critical thinking skills can see beyond his pseudointelligence... he's not as intellectual or articulate as he appears to some

@BABALAGAJIGAPOO

6 жыл бұрын

Dee Ef Sea speaking in paragraphs.....your welcome :)

@shiznit9142

6 жыл бұрын

Crowder lost some respect from me on this one...

Yusef won. Also, this crowd just cheers for literally ANYTHING Crowder says. "I just killed my dog!" *CROWD CHEERS*