An absolutely bizarre move by Sig to not have any marketing behind this whatsoever when this is the same company that makes 50 different versions of the same gun every month and markets the hell out of all of them.

@Frank-bc8gg

11 күн бұрын

probably because they know it's even more half asked than normal

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

I think they don't really plan on selling this. Or making a gen 2. Dabbling around a bit more, their effort seems to be towards a flux collab.

@flopus7

11 күн бұрын

Clearly you don't check sig's website daily as all sig boys are required to do

@nation5478

11 күн бұрын

marketing decisions are primarily made by dashboards these days than cocaine

@user-qr4dh1iv9h

11 күн бұрын

Probably because they wanted to get consumer feedback without getting the same blame as they normally get for beta testing their products on customers.

There was a video sig released a while back that stated the reason they stopped making these and never advertised them was cause of the brace ruling a while back, but now that is has officially been struck down, I wonder if they'll be back on the menu full time

@BenfromFlux

9 күн бұрын

They won’t.

Brock Defense Weapon

@christopher7398

11 күн бұрын

BDW 👊🏻

@seann2769

10 күн бұрын

🅱️DW

it certainly is one of the pdw chassis of all time.

@mmancino1982

11 күн бұрын

😂

@cagneybillingsley2165

11 күн бұрын

what's the point of this when you can just get one of those quick attach stocks and use it with a red dot pistol?

@CheeseBurgerXJ

11 күн бұрын

@@cagneybillingsley2165so you can have one of the pdw chassis of all time

@gunfightersquid6732

7 күн бұрын

har

C-does: SPR Hop: battle rifles Focustripp: GPR Brass Facts: PDW

@marcusborderlands6177

11 күн бұрын

Hop kinda shifts around but yeah. I miss the shitty wonder9 era

@562handsomemike

11 күн бұрын

Which one is “C”?

@jweathers131

11 күн бұрын

@@562handsomemike C-Does; he does indepth optic reviews of the highest order

@Prodigysportsman

11 күн бұрын

@@562handsomemike I'd never heard of him either.

@kmessiah1

11 күн бұрын

​@@Prodigysportsman if you haven't been down the LPVO and MPVO rabbit hole you probably wouldn't. I was watching his for a month straight before I decided on an optic for my SPR

3:24 i was NOT ready for that on a 50" monitor 3 feet from my face...

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

fitting name

@Black_Heart_Defense

10 күн бұрын

Kinda like the spec ops command change over huh?

@PA-jw6fo

10 күн бұрын

That's what she said?

Sleepy Nova gives good vibes

@FinalLugiaGuardian

11 күн бұрын

Nova is a good girl.

@AndyCigars

11 күн бұрын

@@FinalLugiaGuardian*the goodest girl

It's gonna recall so fucking hard

Pretty sure this is not for me or anybody else, so naturally I can’t wait to see it at moons out goons out. Should be perfect.

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

Lmao. Ian running this with a MAWL, a thermal, and probably some hyper yet to be released specialty ammo from Q

@JordanFlayer

10 күн бұрын

@@BrassFactsshhhhh dont ruin the surprise

Quick note on the PSA X57, the one displayed at shot show was in fact a chassis for the rock 5.7 however according to their most recent video they stated that the final iteration of the X57 will be a non chassis firearm similar to the actual MP7 and will include a safety.

@gifthorse3675

11 күн бұрын

They said it was a prototype and would be an actual gun on its own

@SimplestUsername

10 күн бұрын

Even when they debuted the X57 they explained in some interviews that unlike the prototype it would have a proper bolt carrier group.

Ass facts lookin like Asian John Lovell in the opening

Why didn’t you and Hop go invade Tim’s space at Military Arms Channel so he can Sig Simp you into Sig Simpmission?

When I ordered mine the guy on the phone said that these were actually made a while back but then the ATF started playing with the brace rule again so they pulled them. He said they will never make them again as they “Have moved on to bigger and better things”

I saw the video Sig put out about this a month ago. Living in the northeast, I was tempted to drive over to Sig and try to get one, despite not even owning a P320 yet. But, largely thanks to your review, I waited and a week later managed to snag a Flux Raider during a drop. Love the brace deployment system, love the magazine speed reload system, and I love the compact size.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz

6 күн бұрын

I had a Raider and think its the best, if pricy, pdw chassis so far. I dumped my P320s, but the Raider was mostly enjoyable.

reminds me of the old FAB KPOS

@FirstRunTanker

8 күн бұрын

funny seeing you here!

@PolenarTactical

8 күн бұрын

@@FirstRunTanker why?

@FirstRunTanker

8 күн бұрын

@@PolenarTactical Not too often I see Polenar in my Fav Guntuber's comments

@PolenarTactical

8 күн бұрын

@@FirstRunTanker i guess we watch different guntubers then

@badfinancialdecisions

5 күн бұрын

I was gonna comment exactly this! KPOS scout in particular

Great to see that Sig offers a feature to make a 320 less reliable. The market needed that.

I always look forward to your videos on my Friday afternoons!

*takes preliminary look at comments* Alright, cool. First and foremost this is the MP320 Calx kit, still would need FCU, slide, recoil spring, and barrel of choice. Second, this was (WAS) only a Sig Experience Center offering with only 800 ever made with a condition being made to allow for order over the phone.

@trevordbb

9 күн бұрын

Thank you for putting facts into this comment section.

I love your music choices.

That is an FCU Exo One. Pablo designed that Patent. Guarantee that Sig is paying him royalties for using the patent. I have an Exo One, it rocks.

@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz

6 күн бұрын

I noticed the similarity immediately. I couldn't stand my Exo One but it's a nifty concept.

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Is that the one they where they had like 3 types of products and never got past the first one? Would the exo 2 be a fixed barrel PDW? Trying to remember the name of those guys.

@wokndedfan413

5 күн бұрын

@@Yapperinos yup. I just remembered the inventor’s name. His name is Omar out of Texas. He designs sniper rifle chassis. He patent the design, so he gets royalty payments when companies use it. I still shoot mine, but I like my KPOS SCOUT with G17 better.

@wokndedfan413

5 күн бұрын

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz yeah it is. Inventor’s name is Omar outta Texas. He patent it, so he gets royalty payments from companies ( Sig Sauer) that use it. I like mine as well, but I find myself shooting my G17 in a Kpos Scout more often.

Pcb brace tailhook adapter = excellence

Coincidence this drops right after pistol braces going back to normal?

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

most people think that it's because they made this during the pistol ban, gave up. Shoved it into a warehouse. Now that the pistol ban is removed they're selling the 600-800 they made. And will likely make a gen 2 or a collab with flux. Not sure.

@asymsolutions

5 күн бұрын

​@BrassFacts a friend's wife, works putting these together. These aren't going to be the last ones made according to her. I'm just saying.

Brassfacts Friday 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Sig made a copy of an X01 chassis but with an AR15 charging handle instead of a side charging handle that I can HK slap. FCU has been making this almost exact thing for the P320 for like 6 years now.

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Are they still making it? What happened to the X02?

its a cool design for sure like form factor wise. i’d love to see someone maybe print something like this. the Raider-365 looks like the actual best concealable pdw to me, as well as also the USW concept kinda perfected

Hooray! Not a LPVLOPPLO video! PDIDDYPOWOW vids are so refreshing. Although, you're a little late, I've already poo'd today. Love your work!

If you keep making these videos, eventually somebody will make a good PDW for the civilian market. Keep up the good work

The flux deployment made my head snap back lmao. Well played sir.

I have been waiting for you to drop a video on the mp320 it’s right up your alley

I got one too, I really like it actually.

Aww man! I wanted this one to be a home run!

Brock made me buy an MS2000 strobe

I love it, good job. Wish it had a rail on bottom but aye flavor is flavor

@garrettbronenkant2129

11 күн бұрын

It does, you can remove the hand stop.

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Flux raiders give you both a mag holder and a light rail 🎉

@garrettbronenkant2129

5 күн бұрын

@@Yapperinos ok

3:22 Flux jumpscare

Just to clarify, you did not need to be a sig elite member. Just had to call in to the SEC when it dropped. Also you can tighten the sig brace by removing the cap on the end and tightening the hex screw

have you tried the Recover Tactical chassis? you can keep the dot on your pistol slide so there wouldnt be any zeroing issues i think

I can only imagine how many fingers are going to be blown off with this platform

Nova snore bark. Awesome.

You or hop need to make a review of the new Sig Romeo MSR gen 2 red dot. It would be a nice follow up to HOP's top 5 budget red dots, i want to know if this new design beats the holosun hs403r.

I'm still waiting for either you or hop to try a g40 in a recover tactical brace, it gives you a small package with lots of versatility

I was just at the range zeroing the mp17 flux with a laser and I felt like my POI kept changing. Thanks for explaining that pdw's lack consistency for very, very small groups.

Hey AssFacts... XD, nice video again, pretty informative. But back to the MPVOs, have you tried the Leupold MARK 4HD 2,5-10x ? It looks pretty good on paper but I havent had a chance to try it in person.

PDW Facts are my favorite Brass Facts, closely followed by Making Hop Shoot Optics He Hates Facts.

For the strobe: I attached one to a helmet by putting some velcro on the helmet (how else you gonna put those cool morale patches on your stuff?) and then just stuck some to the strobe. Boom, cheap and effective IR IFF strobe.

great vid! can you review mck roni and kpos scout?

I'd be thrilled if they would make more of an upper than a chassis. Like a better made mechtech PDW.

The LC charger (not PC.. LC) is super tempting as a PDW platform but as a ps90 sbr owner I don’t want to invest in a platform to fill the same role with a round that’s questionable and expensive. If they make the newer 45 LC into a charger version then we may finally have a TP9ish firearm for half the cost that shoots an inherently subsonic round. Never thought I’d say this but.. come on ruger!

@mrs.vasquezz

11 күн бұрын

I almost got a 57 Charger but instead bought a mossberg 590a1 lol

I’m curious if, as a self-proclaimed pdw fan, you’ve heard of the Diamondback DBX57: short-stroke piston, pic-rail stock mounting, shoots 5.7x28 (obviously) using FN FiveseveN mags. Unloaded, the whole thing weighs about 3lbs

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

I'm not a huge fan of 5.7. So I've mostly avoided them

@rubbermyducky5998

11 күн бұрын

Diamondback makes shit guns.

@mrs.vasquezz

11 күн бұрын

Untrue​@@rubbermyducky5998

Interesting. Still dont regret my MP5K pdw project.

My I suggest trying out the Recover Tactical 20/20 or 20/80 with a dove tail adapter for reddot for either your choice of RMR style or like me a EPS to solve that low sight picture and drill out hole for a scout mount for a light if needed it's what I've done. To me, it's still the most underrated pdw chassis. Edit: To help rack the slide, get a slide racker back plate from springer precision.

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Tbh I think if you can afford/snag a raider or even a b&t usw-g17 you won't look back. But especially the raider, as there's a critical mass of support behind it that is leading to a wide roster of aftermarket parts & accessories

Just in time for lunch break

You mention it in passing, but any hands on experience with the b&t usw-g? I had hope with sage dynamics review and the thing costing half to get running than a flux 365

One minute John Leguizamo is woke the other he's shooting PDW's

Hey my dude, I know you've done some great vids on the PA GLX 2.5-10x and the PA PLxC 1-8x. Im at a delimma between the two. Would love some feedback or even a full review on when your magnification is so close to each other, does it make more sense to go 2.5-10x with a piggyback dot... or does it make more sense to save on weight and sacrifice the magnification and parallax adjustment? Would love a comparison between them as a LPVO/MPVO comparison showdown. Its the last piece of my puzzle for my Mod H and I'm stuck in a lack of knowledge, and hands on time with them, to make a good decision.

Any chance for a comparison video between this, the TP9, and a Flux Raider? I'd be most interested in the Flux, as their chasis seems well designed and incorporates a non-reciprocating optic mount.

I feel like the new strike industries p320 pdw chassis has a lot of potential, might be worth checking out (it’s also the only CA legal one as far as I can see other than this sig one but you can’t get them)

3:25 I flinched.

Thoughts on that DARQ industries focusing lens on the tlr1 vir ii that's on the flux?

Any chance you'd examine the Strike Industries SMC BRAVO? I'm well aware of the ALPHA and its issues, thanks to you, but the Bravo has some design features that I think address some of the complaints of the 'original'

What are your thoughts on the RecoverTactical 20/20 chassis? It might not be as capable as the other PDWs but it has the smallest footprint. This is one where you can actually carry in a backback AND not take up most of the space.

Is this also an IED disguised as a firearm, like the P320 is?

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

easy ways to get a DD

@arcblooper2699

11 күн бұрын

le 8 year old meme

@austinboston5643

11 күн бұрын

@@arcblooper2699 Honest to god at this point it's just carried on by boomers about nearly a decade late on the meme and ben stoeger

@Slay_No_More

11 күн бұрын

​@@arcblooper26998 years later and siggers still are coping over it.

Hey man, I know it's a long video but have you checked out the video classic firearms released touring q facility? It really is an eye opener with why they do the things they do. I know it's over 3 and a half hours long, but I think it's really cool and worth the view.

When are you reviewing the raider 365?

InB4 new US army trials for a PDW

I think you should do a review on the Ruger LC carbine in 5.7x28

Would the mp5k fit into your PDW requirements? It’s the right size from what I remember.

You didnt need to be an elite member, i googled the phone number for the SEC, called and within 5 minutes it was shipping to my door.

@brassfacts. Just curious as to why there is no love for the MPA defender series. Specifically the side cocking version of it. I have one modded out with a brace, red dot, sling, and a light.l and tri lug adapter. It’s able to run Glock mags, uses an active (albeit not intuitive) safety, Direct blow back and is short in length and profile. I have it paired with a velocity systems concealed armor carrier and an Unobtainium gear LV9 and it all fits into my work bag I carry daily to and from work. It’s a slick little set up and allows me to plus up if needed but it’s out of the way enough to where I just go to my office with my standard north face back pack and no one knows any better. In a market where there aren’t very many options, I’d be interested to know your take on it because it is on the more affordable side of things.

A shot at 6:30 was so loud in my air pods I thought one went off irl

Nice Honda Civic body kit Sig, very cool.

Does this model have shake awake on the gun component?

0:22 Just what the heck is that optic/LAM setup? How'd you do that?

How are you liking the gl4?

Thoughts about the Mac 11 semi auto as a pdw? Also, a couple days ago I clicked on a random gaming channel video and did a double take when I heard your voice.

@Covertdaily

11 күн бұрын

I had one and tried it. I would say the weight sucks and the mags suck as far as carrying it gos

@BrassFacts

11 күн бұрын

Mac 11s are kinda pricy for what you are getting

@jaythus3181

11 күн бұрын

I know that the masterpiece arms clones have some trigger components that wear out with a lower than preferred round count unless you call them and happen to get some of the good parts. They also use modified sten mags and the factory ones are a toss up if theyre decent or dogwater from what ive heard, but they do have a glock mag version. They're also harder to mount optics to unless if you get the side cocking version which ive heard mediocre at best reviews on. Theres other clones out there but thats what ive seen the most of, also one of the cheapest, assuming you're wanting a non-nfa gun or a vintage closed bolt. Most mac clones are give or take if theyre decent or not but if youre just wanting a fun gun to play around with it should be alright, if not maybe another reasonably priced pdw/pcc might be better. Ive been looking at stribogs, scorpion evos, and the like as of late for something to fill that role personally. Take my opinion with a grain of salt as i have no hands on experience with any of them, just stuff ive seen from my research on them because it peaked my interest.

Could you go into more detail on the B&T Glock chassis? It seems to be well regarded overall, but I would love to hear your opinions. Thanks for this video. While I am not interested in this PDW, your rambling thoughts are great commentary and certainly worth my time to watch. Also, I want to buy some brace facts stuff and sadly there is none to be had that I could find. 🎉 Keep making interesting and relevant videos.

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Sorry I'm not him but I own a usw-g17 and a raider. The USW stock deployment is just OK, but absolutely sucks compared to the raider. The stock itself is small and leaves bruises on your shoulder. If you're handy you can make something to enlarge it. I believe the optic rail's connection to the barrel is less stable than the Raider's. Raiders have a much larger aftermarket for parts, even holsters. Way more people carry it everyday in the US including LEO's so there will always be a community. Raider has a cool second mag holder, usw doesn't. I will say the USW is way less gassy when suppressed, but that seems to be due to how glocks are designed vs P320's. Hopefully Flux's future glock raider will solve that

@Yapperinos

5 күн бұрын

Oh and forgot raiders have a safety built in, which even if it wasn't a P320 you want a safety on a gun you will be moving with. I will commend the usw-g17 for again not being a p320, and also for having a built in charging handle which is nice.

All of this just tells me i was right to just stick with an MP5K aside from that great video gooner

Sig made a total of 800 of these and they still have about 50 left over after speaking with them today 06/14/2024. Price ends up being closer to 700$ in the end

What sunglasses are you sporting?

Do a review on a B&T USW A1

Now make it 10mm

Is your GL4 Pro mount crooked?

I got one it’s fun to shoot. You need the 6 inch barrel for it though

I'd be curious how this compares in size to the x01 FCU pdw chassis

When I sleep on the floor, I twitch exactly the same as Nova does.

Hey man, nice watch

Brassfacts what in your opinion does the perfect PDW look like?

Technically speaking it's a PDW, and from what I can tell is a solid meh of a gun. 6/10 if I see one at a gun show in ten years I'll pick it up. Anywho, you planning on reviewing or talking about the new Flux 365 Raider? Seems right up your alley.

I just want a TP-9 or Mp-7 but for way less money and make it take Glockazines. If that already exists please tell me.

@squirreltakular9049

11 күн бұрын

I don't think it does. Really weird that hole in the market hasn't been filled yet. Seems obvious.

@andrewvachon1943

11 күн бұрын

The tp9 isn’t that expensive, I’m a mpx copperhead/apc9k guy personally

@rubbermyducky5998

11 күн бұрын

@@andrewvachon1943 The tp9 is $2400. That's very expensive compared to the rest of the market for what it is.

@aatifrathod7485

5 күн бұрын

Recover tactical Glock chassi

I'm a supporter of PDWs

crazy this drops the same day as the 365 raider drop.

Are you gonna do a video on the p365 flux raider?

@BrassFacts

9 күн бұрын

when/if I get one. I wasn't able to buy one in the surge.

Kinda has a high point looking vibe to it.

Credits roll as my blue heeler is having loud puppy dreams next to me on the floor.

Wanted to comment to suggest you check out the customsmith manufacturing tp9 magwell. I think its good :D

0:23 is that an Acro mounted straight ontop a DBAL ([or whatever LAM that is)? Haven't seen that one before.

@BrassFacts

8 күн бұрын

yep.

Brock back to his roots. Grass facts.

Have you tried strike industries new version?

5:55 damn those fingers in front of the muzzle haha gonna be gone

PDW Facts

The TP9 that gets spicy if you drop it or holster it