another great review, Thanks for your honesty about that product.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+Jay bird2963 Thanks for watching!

Thanks for this Video about the Stasha

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. One of my kids carries the one in the video in his hiking kit. It seems to be holding up OK.

@Bernd-Outdoor

6 жыл бұрын

For children ideal, I'm interested in the biwiback :)

I was looking at this to stuff in a backpack as a survival option. For longer trips I'd go to a tent or something bigger.

Nice review make a great day hike item

Good review, i thought about getting one but i bought an ex army Gortex Bivvy bag instead , It's huge and gives better weather protection in my opinion. Having both a gotex bivvy bag and a tarp like this could be a guid idea.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. This little tarp might do in a pinch as a bivvy bag, but an actual bivvy bag designed strictly to be a bivvy bag is going to be better every time.

Good review. Helpful. I was thinking about this for day hikes + a small tarp to hang above the military surplus gore-tex bivy sack. Might be ok for the day hikes, but not so awesome as a camping tarp, even with the bivy sack. Have you hung it A-Frame style above a bivy, or is it just too small to be useful that way? I like the weight and the price, but it just looks like it is too small to really provide much protection in that configuration.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+Opinionated Cheapskate - Outdoor Gear & Electronics Reviews It's pretty small. You could A-frame cover a bivy sack, but laying on your back, your nose will be about 4 inches from the ridge line if the A-frame is pegged to the ground. ... With a tight ridge line, it could be hung above the ground though with some guy lines guyed out to pegs. You could lift it a few inches if you didn't care that it reached the ground. That's OK for dew and maybe even very light precipitation, but not so much for a storm. ... I hope that helps! Thanks for watching!

for the size ,carry 2 and snap together or use as a rain awning when using a bivy or one man tent so you don't have to stay in your bivy or tent all day.even if you use it just to cover your firewood

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

If you got a really good deal on them, I can see doing that. It would have to be a really good sale though. Or, maybe if you already had one and decided it wasn't big enough for what you need it to do you might decide to pick up a second one so as not to spend more money than necessary.... A pair of them at normal amazon sort of pricing gets you pretty close to $67 or $68 usd. And two of them together weight pretty close to 30 oz. There are quite a few 10'X10' tarps on the market that I'd have to recommend rather than buying a pair of Stashas otherwise. I think the first one that comes to mind is the DD 3X3. In olive green, they get $62 usd shipped to almost anywhere in the world. It weighs 28 ounces.

It sure is small but i love the small pack size and i've slept well in it with just a mat, sleeping bag and a sleeping bag cover for some extra protection. Inexpensive also.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+balleur Yes. It's small enough to leave no excuse to not have one with you... That's my favorite feature. And, even though they don't give us a hydrostatic head rating, I've had one in use in a thunderstorm with ~45mph winds and no raindrops were driven through the fabric. Coming up in one of my near-future videos, I'm going to "review" a popular tarp that will not stop wind-driven rain. This little tarp is a lot more valuable to me than that one even though it was half the price and it's about half the size. It's a good product. ... Thanks for watching!

In your Kelty Noah tarp review, you said you used more affordable poles. What do you recommend? Nice work on your videos!

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Most sporting goods stores sell some steel telescoping poles from Coleman or Stansport that work just fine and aren't very heavy. That's what I used in the kelty tarp video. My only caution with those is that when they are stored long term, they should be stored indoors (shed, garage, basement...) because they can and will rust. ... As far as light weight poles for backpacking, options are limited and many are expensive. Lots of places make carbon fiber tarp poles and none of them over 3 or so feet long are cheap. I have a few in different lengths from ZPacks. The longest one is maybe 58".

From the SnugPak web site is says "Waterproof: 2000mm Hydrostatic Head".

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

I'm glad they finally published that. Their website didn't offer much information at the time of shooting this video. Thanks!

A shelter that size I think I'll take a poncho any day over that one. They may take up more space but they offer a lot more. Also, a plowshare shelter with that little tarp (or any smaller tarp/poncho) really offers the best option IMHO.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+TurtleWolf Pack I didn't put it in the video, but I was sort of thinking this little tarp might benefit from the "gar tarp" modifications.

@turtlewolfpack6061

8 жыл бұрын

betweenfiveandseven gar tarp? I think I missed that term some where.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

TurtleWolf Pack The channel Gar's Bushcraft did a 1 man shelter plastic tarp modification video 4 years ago. He was the first youtube bushcraft guy to do the sort of thing now referred to as the "gar tarp" modifying the placement of grommets or tie outs and adding a space blanket with some spray adhesive/spray/tack. The title of his video is "#7- Great Tarp Shelter for Poor Weather "

@turtlewolfpack6061

8 жыл бұрын

betweenfiveandseven Ah, kk.

Good thorough review. The Stasha looks like a niche product, as you explained. Not much more that can be said, plus the price looks reasonable. Probably good for a quick overnighter, where you don't want to carry a lot of weight, but just want a little something that you can crawl into, to separate yourself from the elements. You could also use with a lightweight sleeping pad, and sleeping bag if needed, or perhaps just a bed of leaves or pine boughs. It does not look big enough to cover most hammocks completely length wise, but OK width wise. Thanks!

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+Msilverhammer Exactly. It's nothing special and nothing really fancy, but it's waterproof, light weight, and not overly expensive.

3M makes a nice rubberized truck bed liner that can be sprayed on to that and make it better

i was looking for a tarp just as a gear cover. while back packing on longer trips, we might not be able to have all our gear in our tent, would you recommend this for just something to use as a secondary rain cover? just to throw gear under for the night? or do you have any products you would recommend for that, possibly cheaper? but also very light.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

+I NEED It ...... Just for gear cover, I think the most durable, light-weight, and inexpensive thing you could do is recover a scrap piece of Tyvek from a construction site (or if you happen to know any construction guys maybe one could just save a tag end of a roll for you) and cut it to your desired size... then maybe glue or stitch on some webbing loops at the corners and centers of the sides for stake out points. If you don't like the white color and dupont/tyvek logo all over it, you can camo it up a bit with a rattle can of spray pain in your preferred color. Tyvek also makes a good ground sheet or a great bivvy bag. Yankee Prepper has a video on making a tyvek bivvy bag and Reality Survival has a good one too. Revhiker has a video on making a tyvek tarp, but you might not need to do as much work as he did for gear cover. Hope that helps!

@ineedit6689

7 жыл бұрын

you know its funny, i found this video while looking for a tarp for back packing trips. Decided this product wasn't what I was looking for. Now I am looking for a light weight tarp for a 72 hour bag, and found this video again before realizing I already watched it 9 months ago and even commented. Great videos btw, glad you put a lot of effort and detail in showing the product instead of just talking about it and never show it being used like so many youtubers.

• Waterproof: 2000mm Hydrostatic Head as per Snugpak website.

This tarp is typical of what we get issues in the Australian Army, we call it a Hootchie, preferably it is strung on poles or sticks at waist height and the poles are secured using bungie/occy strap. The tie down straps should have about four feet of parra cord attached and pegged into the ground, thus giving you more height and ventilation. Also the tarp can be made into a bivvi bag by folding in half and securing using the press studs. Also you can join two together to make a two person shelter. A hootchie will last many years of bush use if looked after.

@betweenfiveandseven

6 жыл бұрын

Good information. I do business with a guy who has some Australian Military surplus inventory sometimes. I don't think the Snugpak Stasha would hold up to more than occasional, short-term use. I'd like to see something like this made from more durable materials (specifically those plastic snaps).

So you prefer steel over aluminum poles?

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

Only because of the price and only regarding the fact that the Kelty poles sell for ~$50 each in most sporting goods stores that carry them vs the Coleman etc poles selling for about ~$10 each. Plus, in all reality, there are at least a dozen ultra-light supply places on the web that will custom build half inch or three quarter inch aluminum poles for around ~30-35 each.

The latest one isn't cheap.

Decent video and helpful review. However, a bit long-winded. Could have cut 10 minutes out if you had just measured the tarp without needing to put it in the video. No one else felt the need to put a tape measure to it, suggesting there was no question as to the size. Other bits and pieces but nothing really annoying. The one impression I get from the tone is: You don't like small tarps, got one, and are saying it's not comfortable. No surprise.

@betweenfiveandseven

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to watch. Most of my videos go pretty long. I prefer to be thorough, but I do understand the average viewer generally won't stick around much past 7 minutes or so. I didn't mean to leave the impression that I don't like small tarps. It isn't really a matter of like or dislike, but rather a matter of functionality. In the case of this one, the price is quite attractive and there is the added feature of it being able to be snapped shut (though the snaps themselves are maybe even a little less than one might expect at this price)... I think most folks might be surprised by what this item can't do and that is provide much shelter as a tarp rather than as a bivvy sack. It isn't sized much differently than a non-hooded grabber outdoors space blanket really, and while those are also popular items, most who ever use them once or twice as lean-to in front of a fire discover they don't offer much protection from wind, rain, snow etc. My point was simply to moderate expectations. This device has certain limits (the size does happen to be the most notable of those limits) folks should be aware of before spending their heard earned cash. ... Thanks again for taking the time to watch! I appreciate it! At nearly the same weight and pack size (though no where at all near the same price) I did a video a couple of months back on the DD Hammocks Superlight Tarp. It's a good contrast to this one, I think and it might interest you.

@ChrisC30

8 жыл бұрын

I'll check it out, thanks. And, maybe I'm rare, but I tend to watch every video through, even if it's up to an hour or more long. There have been a few. ;-)

star-sha ? i woulda said stash-a.... as in small and able to be stashed.

@betweenfiveandseven

7 жыл бұрын

That seems about right. Thanks!

@GavTatu

7 жыл бұрын

Essential Gear & Useful Skills lol, just a lil observation mate...good vid too !

Pull it over your head like a tee shirt. Then you won’t have to stomp it into the ground.

@betweenfiveandseven

5 жыл бұрын

Good thinking. Thanks for the tip!

Bla bla bla. Show us the goods lolol just kidding