lol Heavy industry doesn't have tools big enough for the job "Ok. I'll be right back. Just let me just get some stuff from home."
@David-xl8zf
7 жыл бұрын
Well not every shop has Abom size tooling at hand.
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂, that's true, and it happend for me in the maitenance sector
@billmoran38127 жыл бұрын
Adam, your dad and grandad must be so proud of you. You're a first class machinist, and a classy guy. Hope you are enjoying the holiday with family.
@maggs131
2 жыл бұрын
Happy groundhog day
@denniss55127 жыл бұрын
Even tho this may have taken a bit longer than a plasma or flame, the finish says it all. Another quality Abom job! It shows that your shop takes pride in the work they do. Nice that your boss lets you video these things, he's missing a lot of free advertising tho.
@ronslaughterandalice10183 жыл бұрын
Lot of guys don't like boring mill work but I always had a great time with it. You just have to take your time and think about what your doing.
@michaelwhinnery1644 жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist...never will be a machinist , but I love watching these posts. The time and care that you take with every job you do is impressive. And the respect for the machine and care you take of tools you handle shows a real master tradesman at work. Also your videography and editing skills are just as impressive. Thank you Sir.
@94XJ2 жыл бұрын
When I started out machining, an older guy in the shop named Steve taught me a valuable lesson - Everyone makes mistakes. What differentiates the skilled machinist from the newbie is knowing how to fix the mistake. Who did what wrong and how matters a whole lot less than making it right. I've switched career paths and am far from the shop now...but wisdom like that applies anywhere in anything you do. :) Thanks, Steve!
@StreuB17 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love that Kearns. Thing has paid for itself hundreds of times over at this point. Absolutely vital piece of equipment. Whoever at Motion was the guy who gave the go ahead to buy that from your Dad when he was closing the shop; he is/was a smart man. Thanks Adam!!!! Very cool "Gitter Done!!" job!
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
That guy was me! LOL! or at least I was the one who asked the boss to buy it.
@victoryfirst28785 жыл бұрын
So nice to see someone working on large equipment these days. So few of us machinist tool die makers around. Keep you the great work too. Victory First.
@PurityVendetta4 жыл бұрын
It's nice watching a guy who is proud and enjoys his work. Sometimes I really get down about constantly battling with worn out machines and customers who don't want to pay 😔
@jimgrady74587 жыл бұрын
You know you've entered the final stage of a project when the finger-pointing starts.
@ScottPankhurst
7 жыл бұрын
I work in telecommunications. we start the blamestorming in the planning phase.
@JerickaBingham
7 жыл бұрын
ok ok ok thats funny.
@theseeker262537 жыл бұрын
Bravo on what I think is becoming lost in the world, getting the job done. Some stand around pointing fingers and arguing over whose fault something is. Then there are those who just get to work and fix the problem. THE WORK is the main thing. It has to get done and your shop's reputation can take a bad hit if it isn't. The blame can be figured out later. Great job, Adam. Thanks for sharing.
@sheemondallasgeorgia4 жыл бұрын
These are the GOOD videos that built your channel, Mr. Booth.
@paulvandeventer73967 жыл бұрын
It's good to see that even today with modern technology nothing beats the human feel for accuracy. Keep up the good work of inspiring us Adam
@lavejim117 жыл бұрын
The shop I worked in used a Giddings and Lewis 60 inch HBM modified to cut threads on large diameter casing pipe. We fought chatter all the time. But what a beast!!! I was maintenance (sparky) and those machines were my babies
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
We're looking at some nice big G&L machines right now.
@Godshole7 жыл бұрын
I have probably said before but will say it again. Thank you to your boss(es) for letting you filem at work. I really admire the working relationship you have with them and your co-workers. I really get the feeling that while any business has to be based around profit it is not the only thing that matters in your work place. The mutual respect, cooperation, trust and drive for quality shines through. Another great job :)
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
We have to get the job done, and do it right no matter what the cost is. The unfortunate mistake is still considered covered in the labor for the whole job. Not only did we build the stands, we are assembling the units together as well.
@Godshole
7 жыл бұрын
Aye, these things happen. The great thing is you got on with it and did a good job doing it. To borrow a phrase from your arch nemesis.. It's good to see your 'get her done' attitude ;) and the solutions you bring to the job. Thanks for the reply :) and thanks for all the amazing content you make too...
@nickrandol91335 жыл бұрын
You are a stand up guy. I love that you help your bosses out with your own tools....
@thebotformalityknownasdale25642 жыл бұрын
Adam thank you so much showing us this cool stuff for me it gives me more than entertainment it gives me ideas and ways I can think of of doing so menny thing. One day I hope to put to use with my plans.
@fuglyfeet33732 жыл бұрын
I spent 5 yrs on an old 1940's era lucas42b boring mill boring pasta excruding cylenders finished at 7.5 id and 6 feet long. Had to use the tail stock and a 4 in boring bar about 12 ft long. I designed and made the fixtures to hold them. Chatter was a challenge, low rpm and heavier feed with .03 to .05 depth of cut. I used .015 radius tool nose inserts. Cylenders were fabbed from food grade stainless. I countered bored each end to accept a bushing in each end to support the bar. Each bushing had a air oiler plumbed in to it for lube and to keep chips ffrom entering tthe bushings worked great! To get the travel i needed i used both the spindle feed and the table feed.
@thomasutley7 жыл бұрын
Man that Kearns HBM sure is a versatile machine.
@dudestuff33527 жыл бұрын
Wicked cut Adam, MI is lucky to have someone willing to fix the problem while others point the fingers. Turned that ignorant iron back into something usable.
@binhbui31856 жыл бұрын
I hope I can hear and understand you talk about the issues you do, I admire you, and every day I watch your video thank you.
@georgesg107 жыл бұрын
Very interesting , I was hired in the past to machine 54 inch rings on a jacked up lathe clamped on a huge face plate , centered with a tape measure, I made myself an Ajustible mike with a 3/8 16 bolt with a one or one and one quarter micrometer handle I made to measure the final diameter my boss would verify with a tape measure . After a while my boss lost the contract with a different design and CNC machining .
@charlescompton44957 жыл бұрын
Ok on that boring mill job. I've never seen such a giant before (the machine is pretty big, too!) Greg
@johnnyholland87657 жыл бұрын
Adam.... I know we have been back and forth on large verses small jobs but after seeing this I am glad my fixes are on SMALL parts! Honestly after seeing this I think you will tackle almost anything. Believe me I know about design changes and the lack of communication. Good video and keep them coming.
@stevenkirkham37267 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. Nice save got to love that that big boring machine. Thanks for the videos .
@jeffrawe64863 жыл бұрын
I worked a 5 axis Echocut boremill made by Sharman ... the damaged spindle needed replacing, it took 4 maintenance guys, two from Germany and a 5 ton hoist to remove it.....the table could turn 360*..... such a versatile MC
@toddsheffield42717 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew half of what you've forgotten. thanks for the video. please keep them coming, it means a lot to some of us.
@billlee53077 жыл бұрын
Adam, you and the people you work for have my sincere respect concerning your general attitude about how to react to mistakes and problems. Assigning responsibility for errors can be valuable if the process is centered on making clear what the problem is and what needs to be done to correct the situation. When this process gets in the way of getting the job done, and done well, a lot of finger pointing is not very useful. Nice example of using several measurements and tools to come to an "average" accuracy that is acceptable for the job at hand.
@jcurran24147 жыл бұрын
It can be easy to do a quick cheap fix, but quality neat work extends your reputation. Nice job
@scottharter11617 жыл бұрын
You are so right - past a certain point someone has to step up and get past the finger pointing and just get it fixed.
@94XJ
6 жыл бұрын
Scott Harter Yeah. It should be that guy over there. *points*
@materialsguy20027 жыл бұрын
Adam: Great video. We work in different areas, but, I go through the same process when an "I got this" happens in the lab. Plan A, B, C, D, and E...... Thanks, we got this!
@patrickconway25084 жыл бұрын
Hi just been looking on you tube and come across this sight. Feeling very nostalgic asi worked at kearns richards from 1970 till 1984 when it closed down. The machine shown must have been built in the 50s or early 60s as i had never seen that one. we made several machines Stype SH SF SJ and SE. Several people say the machine shown was big but it was only the equivalent in size to the SH Look on the kearns richards websites and you can look at all the machines that i have stated. The big SE150 Had a car placed on its rotating table to be photographed and i also remember one of the big machines having a chieftan tank gun turret having work done on it.. Sad to say but mrs Thatcher brought about the demise of many industies including engineering! So many highly skilled men lost for good[i was only average} Luckily i ended up working as a baggage handler at Manchester Airport until i retired a couple of years ago.
@silasmarner75867 жыл бұрын
Nice work stepping up to the line to fix the boring issue. Great work on that and thanks for the vid, Abom!
@steveedwards906 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trip down memory lane used to work a Kearns 25year's ago great video chatter is the killer of all tools used to reverse cut to finish worked every time thanks
@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын
My favorite words as a machinist "no critical" and "it's for clearance"
@northzero23907 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, keeping customers happy.
@mikenixon91647 жыл бұрын
Good videos Adam. That boring mill is a nice machine. Wife says we may go to Johns open house again this year.
@thomasbrown21717 жыл бұрын
love your videos, got a lot from your videos. lot of tips I use at work almost weekly
@jamesconner82757 жыл бұрын
A great Abom-size project successfully completed. Two thumbs up.
@jeffryblackmon48467 жыл бұрын
That was a nice, clean finished product.
@kenparnell42975 жыл бұрын
Aw hell, back when I was a draftsman, I was given a rush drawing to make from one of the engineers hand sketches. You would have thought the engineer would have known what dimensions you needed to make a drawing but he didn't. So I had to go ask him what this dimension and that dimension was and he got all upset with me for bothering him "with stuff I should know". So, I finally got the drawing made from his sketch and something told me to make a copy of his sketch, just in case. Sure enough, a couple days later he comes up all upset with how I'd effed up his entire project and how I should be fired. Yadda, yadda, yadda. So, finally my boss wants to see what the problem was, and he handed over his sketch and said, "Your effen draftsman can't even copy a simple sketch right." Then I took out my copy of his sketch and it showed the dimension I made the drawing by and dimensioned it . When his part was wrong because he screwed up he decided to blame me and changed the sketch and tried to claim I screwed it up. So, when my boss got done with his boss, he was in some deep do-do. After that incident, I would make copies of everything after that, I would even make notes of notes I gave to others to remind me I'd given people a note about something specific. Saved my bacon a number of times., even after I became an engineer.
@andyd9900
4 жыл бұрын
The world would work much easier if people just did the right thing the first time. If someone comes to you for a better understanding give them a better understanding. Obviously there is a communication issue, a good manager or engineer understands that and solves any issue. A holes do what this guy did to you. If it were I he would have been fired for altering the document and placing blame elsewhere. That is completely unprofessional and underhanded.
@fredrezfield1629
2 жыл бұрын
cool story bro
@mxcollin957 жыл бұрын
Super cool Adam! Love the work and the attitude. 👍
@lorenlieder97897 жыл бұрын
Great work Adam got to love that boring mill!!
@scheppach697 жыл бұрын
That's great news Adam about the G&L, I was saying ask your boss for a vertical borer, not for this one job as one of your commenters remarked, but to increase the type of work the company can take on, therefore making more profit and saving set up time which will benefit everyone. I think the vertical borer is more suitable for this type of job but I realise the company's funds are finite. You should have a tee shirt made up saying " the impossible done immediately, miracles may take a little longer"
@shawnmrfixitlee64787 жыл бұрын
That job required You Adam , Great job on solving the problem at hand there ! Thumbs up ..
@thegreatga7 жыл бұрын
As always, like a pro! Thanks for showing.
@macsrule157 жыл бұрын
I woulda cut the welds and sent it back to the plasma table and re welded but then you wouldn't have had a video! lol awesome stuff Adam!
@davidwmcinturff7 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your knowledge, you're bettering mankind
@emilgabor887 жыл бұрын
Adam, you just make me want to buy a boring mill
@rickbrandt95597 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam Thanks Motion for video studio use. Education for the masses your support is appreciated. May influence a future dedicated employee to be.
@jamesfeisley28107 жыл бұрын
Assortment of indicators or "Weapons of Choice" 🔱 Thanks for the very interesting content. Your credit to your trade and the Booth name. Hate to see the videos end.
@roderickwhitehead7 жыл бұрын
nice to see the final paint job those things got, too.
@gregoryaul20054 жыл бұрын
Real good job on the tables adam
@derKarl_stp7 жыл бұрын
you know he is working some Abom-sized parts when even Adam looks a bit smaller compared to the workpieces he is machining ;-)
@TheCecil642 жыл бұрын
I worked at Westinghouse on large G&L horizontal machines. So I’ve worked with big facing heads and line boring. On your part I would have cut with cobalt high speed and used clamps in the two top holes. Use indicators while clamping - to make sure part is not moving - if it moves use kickers. I miss my trade - I will be 77 in September.
@directorgtr7 жыл бұрын
I had to pick my jaw up off the ground when you opened that 36" Veneer I think you called it. Abom size for sure
@bjre.wa.86817 жыл бұрын
I was astounded at work a couple of weeks ago instead of furnishing some simple hand tools we needed, the company opted to pull a mechanic off a job to come remove some 10mm wrench size nuts. A job that had we had access to a 10 mm open hole nut driver would have taken 5 minutes actually took two days. They saved having to buy maybe a $50 nut drivers that probably cost several hundred dollars in the the end. Tools are apparently a real struggle for some companies.
@WilliamTMusil7 жыл бұрын
Monarch and Pacemaker? Cool. DoAll, K&T, and Acra? Cool. Boring Mill? Awesome!
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@barrythompson51277 жыл бұрын
Nice job and interesting to see this relatively big machine in action.
@bradhieronimus92387 жыл бұрын
love watching your videos. my sister lives in milton,Florida. just outside of Pensacola. will be visiting her in May.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Yep I know Milton well, I grew up in Pace as a teen.
@jeremydoblinger36097 жыл бұрын
nice job dude I like your style and the boring mill too. Thanks for sharing Abom79
@Marzy58217 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, 'chatter' is a constant enemy.
@joandar17 жыл бұрын
Hello Adam from John. I love the respect you have for your father and his/your fathers father! I know there a lot of Nay Sayers in this world and especially when they can hide behind their computer. I did wonder at the start of the video how you will go with chatter, I have had similar problems. You made a decision that was practical and solved the problem. Cheers from John Australia.
@richkellow15357 жыл бұрын
Adam, in my opinion you should become a film director your video content and quality is excellent....10/10.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
+rich kellow Thanks Rich!
@chamberizer3 жыл бұрын
I worked at a couple of shops that had Devlieg's with horizontal spindle. I worked in the design rooms & I am not a machinist. Actually, the one shop I was told by a customer - was originally the Devlieg plant before they moved to Royal Oak, MI.
@ophirb257 жыл бұрын
you like messing with really big things 👍👍👍
@shortribslongbow53127 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Adam thanks for sharing.
@roberthorner84947 жыл бұрын
GREAT SET OF VIDEOS. THANKS FOR THE TIPS.
@aceroadholder21857 жыл бұрын
One thing that I found often worked on frames and other "flimsy" work is to increase the cutting speed and feed rate. This does several things. The work (and possibly the tool holding assembly) is being excited at its natural frequency by the cutting tool. By speeding up the cutting speed a fair amount you are more likely to get out of this frequency range than by slowing down a little. The increased excitation frequency is easier to damp with things like sandbags, etc. (as others have mentioned). Taking a heavier cut loads the whole plot and the increased forces tend to dampen vibrations. This is often seen on lathe work using carbide tooling. Taking a light cut makes the work vibrate like a bell. But if the cut is made according to the insert manufacture's recommendation the tool cuts smoothly though the finish isn't as fine as you might like because of high feed rates. Generally this is ok as the areas where a bearing might be fitted are often the only places that need a fine finish. Orlin in NC
@MegaMetinMetin7 жыл бұрын
What quality work was that! Lovely welds and paint finish
@normanreid29447 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Adam.
@hobojoe77375 жыл бұрын
This makes me miss being a machinist so much
@yo64yo5 жыл бұрын
damn, nice vernier calipers
@PurityVendetta
4 жыл бұрын
I have a really useful set that came from BSA's toolroom when BSA were still a reputable British engineering company in Small Heath, Birmingham England. Nothing left of the once huge company now 😔
@yo64yo
4 жыл бұрын
@@PurityVendetta that's awesome, I've never heard of BSA before, but after a few searches, it seems like they have quite some history. It's too bad they fell out over time, but I'm sure their traditions still live on in the workmanship of the people who used to work there.
@PurityVendetta
4 жыл бұрын
@@yo64yo They were enormous up until the 1960's when most of the British manufacturing industry started to implode. They made everything from firearms to motorcycles even machine tools. Sadly most who worked for the have passed away and there's just a few people like me struggling along in little shops working with worn out machines. One of the things which makes it more bearable is the look on some old boy's face when they meet us and realise all is not lost. It hurts that the BSA motorcycle brand is now owned by an Indian company and BSA here in England is reduced to selling rebadged cheap Chinese lathes.
@perrannormanshire87836 жыл бұрын
We have one of these where I work, a Kearnes No.2 borer. We call the horizontal borers here in the U.K, never heard of these being referred to as a mill? Great video as always.
@porkerthepig
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard it in the uk, but only from a old school guy
@JerickaBingham7 жыл бұрын
hi Adam! youre awesome (nothing has changed) :) thanks for your videos and hope you and your family are doing good.have a blessed day.. loves ya and asalaam peace
@brianhostak39617 жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam ! Great video.
@trainedtiger7 жыл бұрын
You didn't have a 27" diameter drill bit?
@wupme
7 жыл бұрын
Only 26 and 28, his 27 got lost some time ago :(
@yo64yo
5 жыл бұрын
the thing would weigh like 4 tons depending on whether it's high speed or carbide.
@yo64yo
5 жыл бұрын
it probably needs a 500 morse taper drill sleve XD
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe
4 жыл бұрын
@@yo64yo 😂😂😂
@sachie1237 жыл бұрын
Woah.. I finished machined 6"x10" bore on my CNC lathe the other day and thought that was big!!
@BassBoostedSongs17 жыл бұрын
Nice job Adam, i love your videos! Keep it up buddy :) Greetings from Serbia.
@craigs52127 жыл бұрын
Well I don't know Adam it was only a 1/4", think Tom would have just picked up a good old Nicholson, put on some soothing music and had at it. Nice job, is that the largest hole you have done on that machine? Craig
@jusb1066
7 жыл бұрын
what decade do you estimate he'd have got it finished?
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
He'd have a big half round bastard!
@StreuB1
7 жыл бұрын
Tom does have lots of files lol
@jmwarden1
6 жыл бұрын
Kind of like his hammer collection
@Redmech804 жыл бұрын
All these horizontal boring mill videos have been popping up in my feed the latest few days.
@paulelephant95217 жыл бұрын
Great work Adam, i wish i was one of your customers! Nice to see someone who gives a fetid dingos kidney about the work they do.
@devmeistersuperprecision415510 ай бұрын
Love this work. But you need a Devlieg 3B48 boring mill. And a 72 in Rockford planer with hydraulic kopy Kat! And you can have these for free.
@grizlybr6 жыл бұрын
hii adam you really have a very interesting and versatile job
@billdlv7 жыл бұрын
Nice solution to the problem Adam. I did not realize the HBM had that much capacity in the y(?) axis. It would have been tough to take that small of a cut with a torch, even if you made a ring for a guide which would have been a lot of work too.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Bill it has a working envelope of about 36x36x36.
@SynchroScore4 жыл бұрын
I've been there. At my previous job, one of the components that I regularly machined was a support rod. Nothing fancy, just a 1 1/2" hardened, ground, and polished bar with a 1/2"-13 threaded hole in each end. One day I got a print from an engineer that was new to the company, showing a support rod for a slightly-different machine, with 1/2"-20 holes. I went to see him and said that we usually use 1/2"-13 for this part, and which would he like me to do? We had taps for both. He told me to use the 1/2"-13, and said he would change the print. Well, the print was never changed, another machinist made the next part, and cue somebody rushing out to Fastenal to buy 1/2"-20 bolts.
@joea37287 жыл бұрын
If that boring machine is gear driven, any backlash in the gears will produce chatter in the downstroke, if the cutting head is off-balance. The weight of the cutting head will try to fall into the work instead of being driven into the work. If you can get the head balanced correctly you will have less chatter.
@izrael23217 жыл бұрын
love the vid ,really good machinist like always ...
@Cancun7717 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought of for stiffening up that set-up was a telescopic builder's prop or floor jack, just jam it inside that pallet and see if things improve. The second thing was just to use a ratchet strap or two.
@PorkBarrel.7 жыл бұрын
ID's small OD's big. Nice re-work!
@Titus-as-the-Roman7 жыл бұрын
Those transport stands are Wicked, I'm sure curious to see what kind of transmission those support. In less than a month I'll be down your way to the "Real Florida" (don't worry 'bout me pestering you, after coming through DeFuniak going east to coast due south of Tallahassee, small coastal town called Panacea) to do a couple weeks worth of a whole bunch of Noth'n but hold a fishing rod and crank it every now and then. Been coming to that part of Florida better than 30 years, hoping to retire there when the Wife retires. The Sea and the real south is in my blood.
@bigp42185 жыл бұрын
You need a counterweight on your boring head. The downward stroke is faster than the upward stroke due to the offset mass. This is contributing to the chatter and also explains the noise your gears are making
@idriveabigtruck24 жыл бұрын
We add a weight to the head to balance it. Takes the backlash out of the drive gears on the downstroke. Might help.
@cocoscorner64196 жыл бұрын
if you are getting the vibration from the spindle backlash, switch to a very sharp positive rake hss tool rather then carbide. im a fan of a good chip break when i have to use them.
@grahamsengineering.25327 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam great vid as usual. I've recently purchased an ex Tech Colledge Kearns Staveley "S" Type HBM and so looking forward to using it once I update the original electrics. The machine is in excellent condition with very little use for it's age. Kearns must have used a bad batch of paint as it needs a coat of paint which will happen soon. Cheers.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
That's great! I'd love to see that machine if you care to share some pictures in email.
@grahamsengineering.2532
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam. Thanks for the reply. I'll send you a private message via FB for your email address or you can contact me via my web site www.grahamsengineering.com.au I'm in Brisbane Australia. The HBM that I have is a later version of the one that Bruce Whitlam has. Mine is the last of the line being a metric unit. The slideways are perfect and all the Gibs are in their original factory setting. All the slides are still tight. The paint is badly flaked but I will strip it back soon and give it a coat of Machine Grey. I'd be very happy to share some pic's of it with you as well as the other gear that I've been revamping. Just recommissioned a Churchill NB Model Surface Grinder, built in 1959 and still very accurate. I've been doing a lot of filming of what I've been doing and will start to edit and upload soon. Fingers crossed the vids come out ok. Cheers for now.
@steveavis46427 жыл бұрын
what a great video. very interesting. I was wondering if you had put some rubber blocks in the upper portion of the table where it was chattering, one on each side of the table top bolted with a through hole using one of the drilled holes in the top, if that would have absorbed the vibration. just a thought. we use a vibration band on brake rotors which work great.
@AtelierDBurgoyne7 жыл бұрын
Greatly instructional! I have not seen other videos on YT that are showing how to operate an HBM as good as yours. Bruce Whitman has some good ones too but not as extensive. A suggestion: put all the videos with the HBM is a specific pkaylist for ease of reference. Daniel
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
+AtelierDBurgoyne I'll try and get that organized Daniel.
@XJapa1n097 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, I just wondered why you chose not to shim it so it didn't tilt. I understand it wasn't a critical hole size so it wasn't about that but maybe having a straight face would have eliminated the chatter and saved some tool/machine wear.
@cliffburridge7 жыл бұрын
Nice work, fella!
@PorkBarrel.7 жыл бұрын
I think Adam is right. Sounds like gear mesh chatter on the down side of the cut. Maybe put a strap around the chuck somewhere to add a load.
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lol Heavy industry doesn't have tools big enough for the job "Ok. I'll be right back. Just let me just get some stuff from home."
@David-xl8zf
7 жыл бұрын
Well not every shop has Abom size tooling at hand.
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂, that's true, and it happend for me in the maitenance sector
Adam, your dad and grandad must be so proud of you. You're a first class machinist, and a classy guy. Hope you are enjoying the holiday with family.
@maggs131
2 жыл бұрын
Happy groundhog day
Even tho this may have taken a bit longer than a plasma or flame, the finish says it all. Another quality Abom job! It shows that your shop takes pride in the work they do. Nice that your boss lets you video these things, he's missing a lot of free advertising tho.
Lot of guys don't like boring mill work but I always had a great time with it. You just have to take your time and think about what your doing.
I'm not a machinist...never will be a machinist , but I love watching these posts. The time and care that you take with every job you do is impressive. And the respect for the machine and care you take of tools you handle shows a real master tradesman at work. Also your videography and editing skills are just as impressive. Thank you Sir.
When I started out machining, an older guy in the shop named Steve taught me a valuable lesson - Everyone makes mistakes. What differentiates the skilled machinist from the newbie is knowing how to fix the mistake. Who did what wrong and how matters a whole lot less than making it right. I've switched career paths and am far from the shop now...but wisdom like that applies anywhere in anything you do. :) Thanks, Steve!
Absolutely love that Kearns. Thing has paid for itself hundreds of times over at this point. Absolutely vital piece of equipment. Whoever at Motion was the guy who gave the go ahead to buy that from your Dad when he was closing the shop; he is/was a smart man. Thanks Adam!!!! Very cool "Gitter Done!!" job!
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
That guy was me! LOL! or at least I was the one who asked the boss to buy it.
So nice to see someone working on large equipment these days. So few of us machinist tool die makers around. Keep you the great work too. Victory First.
It's nice watching a guy who is proud and enjoys his work. Sometimes I really get down about constantly battling with worn out machines and customers who don't want to pay 😔
You know you've entered the final stage of a project when the finger-pointing starts.
@ScottPankhurst
7 жыл бұрын
I work in telecommunications. we start the blamestorming in the planning phase.
@JerickaBingham
7 жыл бұрын
ok ok ok thats funny.
Bravo on what I think is becoming lost in the world, getting the job done. Some stand around pointing fingers and arguing over whose fault something is. Then there are those who just get to work and fix the problem. THE WORK is the main thing. It has to get done and your shop's reputation can take a bad hit if it isn't. The blame can be figured out later. Great job, Adam. Thanks for sharing.
These are the GOOD videos that built your channel, Mr. Booth.
It's good to see that even today with modern technology nothing beats the human feel for accuracy. Keep up the good work of inspiring us Adam
The shop I worked in used a Giddings and Lewis 60 inch HBM modified to cut threads on large diameter casing pipe. We fought chatter all the time. But what a beast!!! I was maintenance (sparky) and those machines were my babies
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
We're looking at some nice big G&L machines right now.
I have probably said before but will say it again. Thank you to your boss(es) for letting you filem at work. I really admire the working relationship you have with them and your co-workers. I really get the feeling that while any business has to be based around profit it is not the only thing that matters in your work place. The mutual respect, cooperation, trust and drive for quality shines through. Another great job :)
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
We have to get the job done, and do it right no matter what the cost is. The unfortunate mistake is still considered covered in the labor for the whole job. Not only did we build the stands, we are assembling the units together as well.
@Godshole
7 жыл бұрын
Aye, these things happen. The great thing is you got on with it and did a good job doing it. To borrow a phrase from your arch nemesis.. It's good to see your 'get her done' attitude ;) and the solutions you bring to the job. Thanks for the reply :) and thanks for all the amazing content you make too...
You are a stand up guy. I love that you help your bosses out with your own tools....
Adam thank you so much showing us this cool stuff for me it gives me more than entertainment it gives me ideas and ways I can think of of doing so menny thing. One day I hope to put to use with my plans.
I spent 5 yrs on an old 1940's era lucas42b boring mill boring pasta excruding cylenders finished at 7.5 id and 6 feet long. Had to use the tail stock and a 4 in boring bar about 12 ft long. I designed and made the fixtures to hold them. Chatter was a challenge, low rpm and heavier feed with .03 to .05 depth of cut. I used .015 radius tool nose inserts. Cylenders were fabbed from food grade stainless. I countered bored each end to accept a bushing in each end to support the bar. Each bushing had a air oiler plumbed in to it for lube and to keep chips ffrom entering tthe bushings worked great! To get the travel i needed i used both the spindle feed and the table feed.
Man that Kearns HBM sure is a versatile machine.
Wicked cut Adam, MI is lucky to have someone willing to fix the problem while others point the fingers. Turned that ignorant iron back into something usable.
I hope I can hear and understand you talk about the issues you do, I admire you, and every day I watch your video thank you.
Very interesting , I was hired in the past to machine 54 inch rings on a jacked up lathe clamped on a huge face plate , centered with a tape measure, I made myself an Ajustible mike with a 3/8 16 bolt with a one or one and one quarter micrometer handle I made to measure the final diameter my boss would verify with a tape measure . After a while my boss lost the contract with a different design and CNC machining .
Ok on that boring mill job. I've never seen such a giant before (the machine is pretty big, too!) Greg
Adam.... I know we have been back and forth on large verses small jobs but after seeing this I am glad my fixes are on SMALL parts! Honestly after seeing this I think you will tackle almost anything. Believe me I know about design changes and the lack of communication. Good video and keep them coming.
Hi Adam. Nice save got to love that that big boring machine. Thanks for the videos .
I worked a 5 axis Echocut boremill made by Sharman ... the damaged spindle needed replacing, it took 4 maintenance guys, two from Germany and a 5 ton hoist to remove it.....the table could turn 360*..... such a versatile MC
I wish I knew half of what you've forgotten. thanks for the video. please keep them coming, it means a lot to some of us.
Adam, you and the people you work for have my sincere respect concerning your general attitude about how to react to mistakes and problems. Assigning responsibility for errors can be valuable if the process is centered on making clear what the problem is and what needs to be done to correct the situation. When this process gets in the way of getting the job done, and done well, a lot of finger pointing is not very useful. Nice example of using several measurements and tools to come to an "average" accuracy that is acceptable for the job at hand.
It can be easy to do a quick cheap fix, but quality neat work extends your reputation. Nice job
You are so right - past a certain point someone has to step up and get past the finger pointing and just get it fixed.
@94XJ
6 жыл бұрын
Scott Harter Yeah. It should be that guy over there. *points*
Adam: Great video. We work in different areas, but, I go through the same process when an "I got this" happens in the lab. Plan A, B, C, D, and E...... Thanks, we got this!
Hi just been looking on you tube and come across this sight. Feeling very nostalgic asi worked at kearns richards from 1970 till 1984 when it closed down. The machine shown must have been built in the 50s or early 60s as i had never seen that one. we made several machines Stype SH SF SJ and SE. Several people say the machine shown was big but it was only the equivalent in size to the SH Look on the kearns richards websites and you can look at all the machines that i have stated. The big SE150 Had a car placed on its rotating table to be photographed and i also remember one of the big machines having a chieftan tank gun turret having work done on it.. Sad to say but mrs Thatcher brought about the demise of many industies including engineering! So many highly skilled men lost for good[i was only average} Luckily i ended up working as a baggage handler at Manchester Airport until i retired a couple of years ago.
Nice work stepping up to the line to fix the boring issue. Great work on that and thanks for the vid, Abom!
Thanks for the trip down memory lane used to work a Kearns 25year's ago great video chatter is the killer of all tools used to reverse cut to finish worked every time thanks
My favorite words as a machinist "no critical" and "it's for clearance"
Nice job Adam, keeping customers happy.
Good videos Adam. That boring mill is a nice machine. Wife says we may go to Johns open house again this year.
love your videos, got a lot from your videos. lot of tips I use at work almost weekly
A great Abom-size project successfully completed. Two thumbs up.
That was a nice, clean finished product.
Aw hell, back when I was a draftsman, I was given a rush drawing to make from one of the engineers hand sketches. You would have thought the engineer would have known what dimensions you needed to make a drawing but he didn't. So I had to go ask him what this dimension and that dimension was and he got all upset with me for bothering him "with stuff I should know". So, I finally got the drawing made from his sketch and something told me to make a copy of his sketch, just in case. Sure enough, a couple days later he comes up all upset with how I'd effed up his entire project and how I should be fired. Yadda, yadda, yadda. So, finally my boss wants to see what the problem was, and he handed over his sketch and said, "Your effen draftsman can't even copy a simple sketch right." Then I took out my copy of his sketch and it showed the dimension I made the drawing by and dimensioned it . When his part was wrong because he screwed up he decided to blame me and changed the sketch and tried to claim I screwed it up. So, when my boss got done with his boss, he was in some deep do-do. After that incident, I would make copies of everything after that, I would even make notes of notes I gave to others to remind me I'd given people a note about something specific. Saved my bacon a number of times., even after I became an engineer.
@andyd9900
4 жыл бұрын
The world would work much easier if people just did the right thing the first time. If someone comes to you for a better understanding give them a better understanding. Obviously there is a communication issue, a good manager or engineer understands that and solves any issue. A holes do what this guy did to you. If it were I he would have been fired for altering the document and placing blame elsewhere. That is completely unprofessional and underhanded.
@fredrezfield1629
2 жыл бұрын
cool story bro
Super cool Adam! Love the work and the attitude. 👍
Great work Adam got to love that boring mill!!
That's great news Adam about the G&L, I was saying ask your boss for a vertical borer, not for this one job as one of your commenters remarked, but to increase the type of work the company can take on, therefore making more profit and saving set up time which will benefit everyone. I think the vertical borer is more suitable for this type of job but I realise the company's funds are finite. You should have a tee shirt made up saying " the impossible done immediately, miracles may take a little longer"
That job required You Adam , Great job on solving the problem at hand there ! Thumbs up ..
As always, like a pro! Thanks for showing.
I woulda cut the welds and sent it back to the plasma table and re welded but then you wouldn't have had a video! lol awesome stuff Adam!
thanks for sharing your knowledge, you're bettering mankind
Adam, you just make me want to buy a boring mill
Thanks Adam Thanks Motion for video studio use. Education for the masses your support is appreciated. May influence a future dedicated employee to be.
Assortment of indicators or "Weapons of Choice" 🔱 Thanks for the very interesting content. Your credit to your trade and the Booth name. Hate to see the videos end.
nice to see the final paint job those things got, too.
Real good job on the tables adam
you know he is working some Abom-sized parts when even Adam looks a bit smaller compared to the workpieces he is machining ;-)
I worked at Westinghouse on large G&L horizontal machines. So I’ve worked with big facing heads and line boring. On your part I would have cut with cobalt high speed and used clamps in the two top holes. Use indicators while clamping - to make sure part is not moving - if it moves use kickers. I miss my trade - I will be 77 in September.
I had to pick my jaw up off the ground when you opened that 36" Veneer I think you called it. Abom size for sure
I was astounded at work a couple of weeks ago instead of furnishing some simple hand tools we needed, the company opted to pull a mechanic off a job to come remove some 10mm wrench size nuts. A job that had we had access to a 10 mm open hole nut driver would have taken 5 minutes actually took two days. They saved having to buy maybe a $50 nut drivers that probably cost several hundred dollars in the the end. Tools are apparently a real struggle for some companies.
Monarch and Pacemaker? Cool. DoAll, K&T, and Acra? Cool. Boring Mill? Awesome!
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Well said!
Nice job and interesting to see this relatively big machine in action.
love watching your videos. my sister lives in milton,Florida. just outside of Pensacola. will be visiting her in May.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Yep I know Milton well, I grew up in Pace as a teen.
nice job dude I like your style and the boring mill too. Thanks for sharing Abom79
Nice job Adam, 'chatter' is a constant enemy.
Hello Adam from John. I love the respect you have for your father and his/your fathers father! I know there a lot of Nay Sayers in this world and especially when they can hide behind their computer. I did wonder at the start of the video how you will go with chatter, I have had similar problems. You made a decision that was practical and solved the problem. Cheers from John Australia.
Adam, in my opinion you should become a film director your video content and quality is excellent....10/10.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
+rich kellow Thanks Rich!
I worked at a couple of shops that had Devlieg's with horizontal spindle. I worked in the design rooms & I am not a machinist. Actually, the one shop I was told by a customer - was originally the Devlieg plant before they moved to Royal Oak, MI.
you like messing with really big things 👍👍👍
Very interesting Adam thanks for sharing.
GREAT SET OF VIDEOS. THANKS FOR THE TIPS.
One thing that I found often worked on frames and other "flimsy" work is to increase the cutting speed and feed rate. This does several things. The work (and possibly the tool holding assembly) is being excited at its natural frequency by the cutting tool. By speeding up the cutting speed a fair amount you are more likely to get out of this frequency range than by slowing down a little. The increased excitation frequency is easier to damp with things like sandbags, etc. (as others have mentioned). Taking a heavier cut loads the whole plot and the increased forces tend to dampen vibrations. This is often seen on lathe work using carbide tooling. Taking a light cut makes the work vibrate like a bell. But if the cut is made according to the insert manufacture's recommendation the tool cuts smoothly though the finish isn't as fine as you might like because of high feed rates. Generally this is ok as the areas where a bearing might be fitted are often the only places that need a fine finish. Orlin in NC
What quality work was that! Lovely welds and paint finish
Thanks for the video Adam.
This makes me miss being a machinist so much
damn, nice vernier calipers
@PurityVendetta
4 жыл бұрын
I have a really useful set that came from BSA's toolroom when BSA were still a reputable British engineering company in Small Heath, Birmingham England. Nothing left of the once huge company now 😔
@yo64yo
4 жыл бұрын
@@PurityVendetta that's awesome, I've never heard of BSA before, but after a few searches, it seems like they have quite some history. It's too bad they fell out over time, but I'm sure their traditions still live on in the workmanship of the people who used to work there.
@PurityVendetta
4 жыл бұрын
@@yo64yo They were enormous up until the 1960's when most of the British manufacturing industry started to implode. They made everything from firearms to motorcycles even machine tools. Sadly most who worked for the have passed away and there's just a few people like me struggling along in little shops working with worn out machines. One of the things which makes it more bearable is the look on some old boy's face when they meet us and realise all is not lost. It hurts that the BSA motorcycle brand is now owned by an Indian company and BSA here in England is reduced to selling rebadged cheap Chinese lathes.
We have one of these where I work, a Kearnes No.2 borer. We call the horizontal borers here in the U.K, never heard of these being referred to as a mill? Great video as always.
@porkerthepig
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard it in the uk, but only from a old school guy
hi Adam! youre awesome (nothing has changed) :) thanks for your videos and hope you and your family are doing good.have a blessed day.. loves ya and asalaam peace
Thanks Adam ! Great video.
You didn't have a 27" diameter drill bit?
@wupme
7 жыл бұрын
Only 26 and 28, his 27 got lost some time ago :(
@yo64yo
5 жыл бұрын
the thing would weigh like 4 tons depending on whether it's high speed or carbide.
@yo64yo
5 жыл бұрын
it probably needs a 500 morse taper drill sleve XD
@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe
4 жыл бұрын
@@yo64yo 😂😂😂
Woah.. I finished machined 6"x10" bore on my CNC lathe the other day and thought that was big!!
Nice job Adam, i love your videos! Keep it up buddy :) Greetings from Serbia.
Well I don't know Adam it was only a 1/4", think Tom would have just picked up a good old Nicholson, put on some soothing music and had at it. Nice job, is that the largest hole you have done on that machine? Craig
@jusb1066
7 жыл бұрын
what decade do you estimate he'd have got it finished?
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
He'd have a big half round bastard!
@StreuB1
7 жыл бұрын
Tom does have lots of files lol
@jmwarden1
6 жыл бұрын
Kind of like his hammer collection
All these horizontal boring mill videos have been popping up in my feed the latest few days.
Great work Adam, i wish i was one of your customers! Nice to see someone who gives a fetid dingos kidney about the work they do.
Love this work. But you need a Devlieg 3B48 boring mill. And a 72 in Rockford planer with hydraulic kopy Kat! And you can have these for free.
hii adam you really have a very interesting and versatile job
Nice solution to the problem Adam. I did not realize the HBM had that much capacity in the y(?) axis. It would have been tough to take that small of a cut with a torch, even if you made a ring for a guide which would have been a lot of work too.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
Bill it has a working envelope of about 36x36x36.
I've been there. At my previous job, one of the components that I regularly machined was a support rod. Nothing fancy, just a 1 1/2" hardened, ground, and polished bar with a 1/2"-13 threaded hole in each end. One day I got a print from an engineer that was new to the company, showing a support rod for a slightly-different machine, with 1/2"-20 holes. I went to see him and said that we usually use 1/2"-13 for this part, and which would he like me to do? We had taps for both. He told me to use the 1/2"-13, and said he would change the print. Well, the print was never changed, another machinist made the next part, and cue somebody rushing out to Fastenal to buy 1/2"-20 bolts.
If that boring machine is gear driven, any backlash in the gears will produce chatter in the downstroke, if the cutting head is off-balance. The weight of the cutting head will try to fall into the work instead of being driven into the work. If you can get the head balanced correctly you will have less chatter.
love the vid ,really good machinist like always ...
The first thing I thought of for stiffening up that set-up was a telescopic builder's prop or floor jack, just jam it inside that pallet and see if things improve. The second thing was just to use a ratchet strap or two.
ID's small OD's big. Nice re-work!
Those transport stands are Wicked, I'm sure curious to see what kind of transmission those support. In less than a month I'll be down your way to the "Real Florida" (don't worry 'bout me pestering you, after coming through DeFuniak going east to coast due south of Tallahassee, small coastal town called Panacea) to do a couple weeks worth of a whole bunch of Noth'n but hold a fishing rod and crank it every now and then. Been coming to that part of Florida better than 30 years, hoping to retire there when the Wife retires. The Sea and the real south is in my blood.
You need a counterweight on your boring head. The downward stroke is faster than the upward stroke due to the offset mass. This is contributing to the chatter and also explains the noise your gears are making
We add a weight to the head to balance it. Takes the backlash out of the drive gears on the downstroke. Might help.
if you are getting the vibration from the spindle backlash, switch to a very sharp positive rake hss tool rather then carbide. im a fan of a good chip break when i have to use them.
Hey Adam great vid as usual. I've recently purchased an ex Tech Colledge Kearns Staveley "S" Type HBM and so looking forward to using it once I update the original electrics. The machine is in excellent condition with very little use for it's age. Kearns must have used a bad batch of paint as it needs a coat of paint which will happen soon. Cheers.
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
That's great! I'd love to see that machine if you care to share some pictures in email.
@grahamsengineering.2532
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam. Thanks for the reply. I'll send you a private message via FB for your email address or you can contact me via my web site www.grahamsengineering.com.au I'm in Brisbane Australia. The HBM that I have is a later version of the one that Bruce Whitlam has. Mine is the last of the line being a metric unit. The slideways are perfect and all the Gibs are in their original factory setting. All the slides are still tight. The paint is badly flaked but I will strip it back soon and give it a coat of Machine Grey. I'd be very happy to share some pic's of it with you as well as the other gear that I've been revamping. Just recommissioned a Churchill NB Model Surface Grinder, built in 1959 and still very accurate. I've been doing a lot of filming of what I've been doing and will start to edit and upload soon. Fingers crossed the vids come out ok. Cheers for now.
what a great video. very interesting. I was wondering if you had put some rubber blocks in the upper portion of the table where it was chattering, one on each side of the table top bolted with a through hole using one of the drilled holes in the top, if that would have absorbed the vibration. just a thought. we use a vibration band on brake rotors which work great.
Greatly instructional! I have not seen other videos on YT that are showing how to operate an HBM as good as yours. Bruce Whitman has some good ones too but not as extensive. A suggestion: put all the videos with the HBM is a specific pkaylist for ease of reference. Daniel
@Abom79
7 жыл бұрын
+AtelierDBurgoyne I'll try and get that organized Daniel.
Hey Adam, I just wondered why you chose not to shim it so it didn't tilt. I understand it wasn't a critical hole size so it wasn't about that but maybe having a straight face would have eliminated the chatter and saved some tool/machine wear.
Nice work, fella!
I think Adam is right. Sounds like gear mesh chatter on the down side of the cut. Maybe put a strap around the chuck somewhere to add a load.