SNNC 437 P2 Harrison 140 Lathe Power Feed Problems
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@retromechanicalengineer2 жыл бұрын
Top Night Caps John. I think that you can be immensely proud that you have created an engineering archive over the years that so many of us have learned from. I searched your back catalogue today and watched 'Trouble at Mill' again to look at your DRO installation, as I'm doing my VMC soon. I hope you get to 100,000 soon, you deserve it. On another note, the farm at the bottom of the lane I live on houses a number of steam vehicles. There was a local steam fair on this weekend (Stoke Row) and this evening we were treated to them all returning from there. A number of Fowlers and a Sentinel steam wagon came past the house. Best wishes, Dean in Oxfordshire.
@bostedtap8399
2 жыл бұрын
Well said 👏
@carlwilson1772
2 жыл бұрын
Friggin' right.
@carlkulyk3662 жыл бұрын
John, the power feed shaft has bronze bushings thru the castings on either side of the gear that has the end play you were demonstrating. The bushings are t shaped and the top part of the t on the bushings act as a thrust bearing on the shaft gear (the one with all the play) . You need to make new bushings or fit some shims. The bushing bores may be worn oval as well and there may be wear on the power shaft drive key.
@nitromyke Жыл бұрын
I did that same job on my old '62 Harrison a couple of years back, and it stills runs smooth, years of chipping cleaned off !
@gth0422 жыл бұрын
Good find, John. Thank you for taking us along for the ride. It's got to be extra tough filming when you're stressed about it, all the backed up projects, the channel, etc. I'd have needed a beer for sure. Anyway, thank you for sharing this, and best of luck to you and yours this week. :)
@rolandsmith21416 ай бұрын
I came here as stripping down my Harrison but I got as far as you (12.30) and thought I need to go in the house and do some research…thanks as always John.
@HaxbyShed2 жыл бұрын
Useful to us Harrison 140 owners, thanks John.
@howder19512 жыл бұрын
Really great video John, those annoying little hiccups that occur in our equipment, first we fear the damage , but then the work is very interesting and usually is less than we first feared. Enjoyed, cheers to you and Debs!
@bostedtap83992 жыл бұрын
I think Mr Crispin on YT showed a basic refurbishment on a similar lathe recently. I know the feeling when a well looked after machine fails. Thanks for sharing.
@MaturePatriot2 жыл бұрын
Always sad when a trusted machine breaks. Good thing there's a mechanic who pissed about in the shop there to repair it. Stay well. Stay safe.
@wdavem2 жыл бұрын
It is satisfying to see the mechanism behind the power feed control I've heard the sound of for a while. Always good when you take something apart expecting total carnage but all you find is interesting!
@robertoswalt3192 жыл бұрын
Wow, you got lucky with that find. I was concerned that either a gear or shaft was worn and causing the problem. Best wishes to you and your loved ones
@jasonbell59052 жыл бұрын
That bastard chip😁, good work Johnny, like you videos , stay safe
@michaeltrumble38582 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video ,brilliant as ever . Nice to see how that drive works
@shawnmrfixitlee64782 жыл бұрын
Ya just can't find a lathe like the ole Harrison's any more !
@azenginerd94982 жыл бұрын
Any room to fashion a sheet metal cover to deflect swarf from those gears? An adult beverage aluminum/aluminium can might be a good source. You could just discard the contents... maybe into a chilled glass.
@Broken_Yugo
2 жыл бұрын
My thinking as well, bad idea to build a machine tool with upturned cups of oily moving parts that chips may fall into. I would have expected a little stamped cover there.
@damojfowler2 жыл бұрын
Once you hear his breathing down the microphone, it's hard to unhear.
@TheKnacklersWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Hello John, Pleased to see there was no major issue... that little bit of maintenance will keep the Harrison going for another 90k subscribers... Take care. Paul,,
@jdmccorful2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the repair of the diesel head. Always a good bit of useful information. Thanks for your time and skill.
@carlwilson17722 жыл бұрын
Similar to the M series Harrison lathes. Disconnect the feed shaft and lead screw and the apron comes off. I am glad it wasn't anything too serious. I am surprised the apron does not have its own oil supply sump.
@HeidiLandRover2 жыл бұрын
I reckon that lathe will outlast all of us.
@gth042
2 жыл бұрын
Especially if a little clot in the works ends up in a heart attack :)
@NellsMechanicalManCave2 жыл бұрын
Nice one John. Got to my gib strip screws and been putting it off due to stripping the saddle
@oldschoolengineer582 жыл бұрын
Good video John! that's why I never use compressed air to blow the crap away on my machine tools, simply because it gets where it shouldn't be and causes problems. Thanks for sharing
@dougwernham52092 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video John.
@paulmorrey7332 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi2 жыл бұрын
Nice simple fix. Nice job John 👍
@TheAyrCaveShop2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it wasn't anything major !
@donaldnaymon32702 жыл бұрын
Nice work John. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
@BensWorkshop2 жыл бұрын
Good work, pleased to see you got to the bottom of it.
@ajs2222222 жыл бұрын
Cheers John well done on the 90k All the best.
@CraigLYoung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@ricko51232 жыл бұрын
It's good you tore it down John so you can give it a good Kerosene bath and put it all back together fresh. Congrats on finding the issue. Ricko
@Davidthomasv82 жыл бұрын
Great videos as usual john thanks .
@kentuckytrapper7802 жыл бұрын
Great video John, keep'um coming..
@BedsitBob2 жыл бұрын
When you were trying to separate the apron from the saddle, I was saying "put some support under the apron, or you'll bend the feed shafts, when you release the skirt".
@tomroskell4032 жыл бұрын
Evening. I've been in there recently on my 140. Mate . There is another bolt ,setscrew under the saddle \ apron top that is holding it on .took me hours to find ,then top comes off.i wanted to know my ways were Clean before new wipers . I went in there because half nuts were very tight ,just needed strip , clean ,lube , all good now. Very hard to engage screw cut before.
@breconmerthyrgwr92502 жыл бұрын
Hi John, brilliant video, I've got to shift an L5 next weekend and im going to have to strip it to move it, the apron looks identical to yours and I presume it'll come apart the same way. Do the lead screw and power feed just pull out of the gearbox or are they held in place with pins or something. Thanks, Tom.
@bobdixon60602 жыл бұрын
as per brill
@benjamintickle96092 жыл бұрын
Well John sorry it happened to you but I'm glad as I have the same issue and now know how to split it down, on a side note if you have any idea where I can get new set of halfnuts from that would be appreciated. I do look on ebay just never seen any for sale. Keep up the good work and I hope your dog doesn't bite you again😁
@paulp962752 жыл бұрын
Great John nothing major 👍👨🏻🏭
@nigelroberson89112 жыл бұрын
When the lathe plays up we always imagine the worst. Good it wasn’t anything serious.
@geoffreyward47432 жыл бұрын
check out Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop ........he makes a cover to keep all the crap out of the gears.i copied his idea for my lathe .made out of a bit of scrap sheet metal.
@paulatkinson28492 жыл бұрын
Atleastu found something John it's when u strip it and Find f&£k all wrong it's annoying 😣
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Top Night Caps John. I think that you can be immensely proud that you have created an engineering archive over the years that so many of us have learned from. I searched your back catalogue today and watched 'Trouble at Mill' again to look at your DRO installation, as I'm doing my VMC soon. I hope you get to 100,000 soon, you deserve it. On another note, the farm at the bottom of the lane I live on houses a number of steam vehicles. There was a local steam fair on this weekend (Stoke Row) and this evening we were treated to them all returning from there. A number of Fowlers and a Sentinel steam wagon came past the house. Best wishes, Dean in Oxfordshire.
@bostedtap8399
2 жыл бұрын
Well said 👏
@carlwilson1772
2 жыл бұрын
Friggin' right.
John, the power feed shaft has bronze bushings thru the castings on either side of the gear that has the end play you were demonstrating. The bushings are t shaped and the top part of the t on the bushings act as a thrust bearing on the shaft gear (the one with all the play) . You need to make new bushings or fit some shims. The bushing bores may be worn oval as well and there may be wear on the power shaft drive key.
I did that same job on my old '62 Harrison a couple of years back, and it stills runs smooth, years of chipping cleaned off !
Good find, John. Thank you for taking us along for the ride. It's got to be extra tough filming when you're stressed about it, all the backed up projects, the channel, etc. I'd have needed a beer for sure. Anyway, thank you for sharing this, and best of luck to you and yours this week. :)
I came here as stripping down my Harrison but I got as far as you (12.30) and thought I need to go in the house and do some research…thanks as always John.
Useful to us Harrison 140 owners, thanks John.
Really great video John, those annoying little hiccups that occur in our equipment, first we fear the damage , but then the work is very interesting and usually is less than we first feared. Enjoyed, cheers to you and Debs!
I think Mr Crispin on YT showed a basic refurbishment on a similar lathe recently. I know the feeling when a well looked after machine fails. Thanks for sharing.
Always sad when a trusted machine breaks. Good thing there's a mechanic who pissed about in the shop there to repair it. Stay well. Stay safe.
It is satisfying to see the mechanism behind the power feed control I've heard the sound of for a while. Always good when you take something apart expecting total carnage but all you find is interesting!
Wow, you got lucky with that find. I was concerned that either a gear or shaft was worn and causing the problem. Best wishes to you and your loved ones
That bastard chip😁, good work Johnny, like you videos , stay safe
Thanks for the video ,brilliant as ever . Nice to see how that drive works
Ya just can't find a lathe like the ole Harrison's any more !
Any room to fashion a sheet metal cover to deflect swarf from those gears? An adult beverage aluminum/aluminium can might be a good source. You could just discard the contents... maybe into a chilled glass.
@Broken_Yugo
2 жыл бұрын
My thinking as well, bad idea to build a machine tool with upturned cups of oily moving parts that chips may fall into. I would have expected a little stamped cover there.
Once you hear his breathing down the microphone, it's hard to unhear.
Hello John, Pleased to see there was no major issue... that little bit of maintenance will keep the Harrison going for another 90k subscribers... Take care. Paul,,
Really enjoyed the repair of the diesel head. Always a good bit of useful information. Thanks for your time and skill.
Similar to the M series Harrison lathes. Disconnect the feed shaft and lead screw and the apron comes off. I am glad it wasn't anything too serious. I am surprised the apron does not have its own oil supply sump.
I reckon that lathe will outlast all of us.
@gth042
2 жыл бұрын
Especially if a little clot in the works ends up in a heart attack :)
Nice one John. Got to my gib strip screws and been putting it off due to stripping the saddle
Good video John! that's why I never use compressed air to blow the crap away on my machine tools, simply because it gets where it shouldn't be and causes problems. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the video John.
Thanks John
Nice simple fix. Nice job John 👍
Nice to see it wasn't anything major !
Nice work John. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Good work, pleased to see you got to the bottom of it.
Cheers John well done on the 90k All the best.
Thanks for sharing 👍
It's good you tore it down John so you can give it a good Kerosene bath and put it all back together fresh. Congrats on finding the issue. Ricko
Great videos as usual john thanks .
Great video John, keep'um coming..
When you were trying to separate the apron from the saddle, I was saying "put some support under the apron, or you'll bend the feed shafts, when you release the skirt".
Evening. I've been in there recently on my 140. Mate . There is another bolt ,setscrew under the saddle \ apron top that is holding it on .took me hours to find ,then top comes off.i wanted to know my ways were Clean before new wipers . I went in there because half nuts were very tight ,just needed strip , clean ,lube , all good now. Very hard to engage screw cut before.
Hi John, brilliant video, I've got to shift an L5 next weekend and im going to have to strip it to move it, the apron looks identical to yours and I presume it'll come apart the same way. Do the lead screw and power feed just pull out of the gearbox or are they held in place with pins or something. Thanks, Tom.
as per brill
Well John sorry it happened to you but I'm glad as I have the same issue and now know how to split it down, on a side note if you have any idea where I can get new set of halfnuts from that would be appreciated. I do look on ebay just never seen any for sale. Keep up the good work and I hope your dog doesn't bite you again😁
Great John nothing major 👍👨🏻🏭
When the lathe plays up we always imagine the worst. Good it wasn’t anything serious.
check out Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop ........he makes a cover to keep all the crap out of the gears.i copied his idea for my lathe .made out of a bit of scrap sheet metal.
Atleastu found something John it's when u strip it and Find f&£k all wrong it's annoying 😣
Glad it was minor!