SNCF New Regiolis in the North of France
Bonjour à tous!
We've seen a lot of Regiolis lately on French rails but one is particular to my heart, the one that replaced the train of my childhood, the classic Corail was gone in 2020... Replaced by some Regiolis between Calais and Paris - are they any good ? Well let's find out ✌🏻
Enjoy :-)
- TRIP INFORMATION -
RECORDED IN OCTOBER 2021 (PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING ANY COMMENTS ON THE MASKS)
Railway company: SNCF for TER Hauts de France
Train type: Regiolis
From: Boulogne-Ville to Paris-Nord
Time: 2h26
Price: 38,50€
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00:00 : Intro
01:00 : A special trip
01:59 : Coradia's arrival
02:30 : Departure
02:44 : Seat Check
03:45 : Shiny when brand new
04:05 : Mid roll ads
04:35 : Across northern France
05:07 : Switching to Diesel
06:02 : Slight issue
06:10 : Noyelles-sur-Mer
07:02 : Busy in Amiens
07:20 : Walkthrough
08:15 : Toilets Time
08:34 : Smooth ride
08:47 : Approaching Paris
09:09 : Spot in Gare du Nord
09:57 : Conclusion
10:09 : Outro
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The last time I did this journey was in 83 or 84 from La gare de Boulogne-Aéroglisseurs by DMU. It was a speedy journey with no signal checks except for the stop at Amiens and spot on time arrival into GdN. Better still was the return journey by ex-TEE turbotrain! Very impressive. If that doesn't make me feel old enough i have to remember that my last visit to Le Touquet was by BUAF Superfreighter! Thanks, I'm going for a lie down now..........
You missed to mention the real oddity of this line : near Etaples, you can still see the remnants of a spur track that led right into the Le Touquet Airport. And when I say the airport, I mean right on the apron, near the airliners. There was a service, named the Silver Arrow, that started from Paris Nord, to Le Touquet Airport, and from there by air to London. The train would deposit its passengers right at the foot of the airplane's boarding ladder. That made it the only train in the world that needed an airport's control tower clearance to proceed... Just Google "SNCF Flèche d'argent" for pictures of this very unique feature.
@etbadaboum
11 ай бұрын
Great trivia! Thanks.
Boulogne ville ! The place to be 😅
So wonderful that you can ride on a train from your hometown, I am about 50 miles from the nearest Amtrak station... Nice review, Thanks for sharing Thibault!
@stateofflux7453
Жыл бұрын
lol this is France, so it is taken as granted that the town is served by a rail station (or sometimes more than one).
@timnewman1172
Жыл бұрын
@@stateofflux7453 many of us here in the U.S. are envious, but thanks for adding that point!
I can see nothing wrong with these trains to do the job they need to do. They are fine trains doing the job just as needed. They have accessibility that the Corail stock can never match. Everything in my rational brain says these are ideal. And yet every part of my emotional self cries out for Corail. Corail is fast, Corail is sleek, Corail is comfortable, Corail is smooth. Corail is what my animal brain wants a train to be like. I travel often between Basel and Strasbourg, with luggage, on the TER200 with Corail carriages. I struggle to get my luggage on the train. The doors are narrow and awkward. There is no power to charge my phone. And yet I love them. When I sink into a Corail sofa seat, I know I am in the best few trains to travel on in the world. Corail is glorious, Corail is great. The day Grand Est replaces Corail on the Basel-Strasbourg service I will shed a tear.
@wavesnbikes
Жыл бұрын
Alstom needs to build "Corail 2" next generation coaches to compete with the new superior Siemens passenger equipment. Come on, SNCF; WORK HARDER!
@raichu4516
11 ай бұрын
@@wavesnbikes sorry to disappoint you but if they have to replace the corails trains it will be with a version which derives from the other Regiolis (B85000) which can go to 200km/h we can distinguish them from "normal" Regiolis by the nose of the train, they are basic for the Intercités lines
Let's be honest, it's a suburban train, exactly like in the UK where suburban EMUs provide what used to be Inter-City services to places like Liverpool
I am old enough to remember Boulanger Martime and taking the “Blue Sky Express” tourist train to the Cote d’zur
Everything looked comfy for a regional train. And pretty full too. Thanks Thibault😀💚
Even though you're traveling a lot, it's always good to appreciate home and/or where you're from. And these trains, they look really nice, not the feeling of the good old corail but it's nice.
Great review. Very useful as I plan using this route to get to Paris from Calais with my touring bicycle. Cheers.
The airleak could be a bad seal on the drivers door, we had that on out class 170 turbostars, when tge seal worked loose it would whistle like a boiling kettle. Easy fix was just to push the seal back in. Great looking train though, and cracking journey
@davee4508
Жыл бұрын
I drive Turbostars and i was going to put the same reply! The cab saloon doors are so poorly sealed that i find noisy passengers distracting so dropping the side cab window cancels them out. Plus Air Con settings is often too cold.
@thomascook578
Жыл бұрын
@@davee4508 trains have 2 heat settings....too hot and too cold
France does have the best trains. I’ve been to France on Eurostar.
J’adore cette vidéo! Très bien fait! J’ai toujours aimé la ligne entre Calais et Paris par Amiens…
Another great video Thibault merci. I just watched a story at France 24 about the Baie de Somme which showed the little steam train. And then I’ve seen it again in your video. New to me, good synchronicity.
Great trip report!
Crazy stairs to platform. Another great video.
There use to be a night train from Bologune to the south of France, Nice I think it went, and it went around Paris calling in at some of the terminal stations and shunting out and around the ring railway.If it was ever reintroduced it would have to avoid Paris and go due south from Lille as the Paris ring railway has bits missing unless it could use the RER lines.
They're talking about replacing the NCTD Sprinter vehicles (Siemens Desiro?) in a few years. I haven't been on the current ones but I wouldn't mind seeing these on the route if they make a DMU version for the USA.
Thank you. This is wonderful! Would love to experience this one day! This is a beautiful train and nice smooth ride!
@Boitaoutix
Жыл бұрын
That train is ugly!
Just returned from Brittany and saw some of these train sets while on the TGV lines to/from Paris. Parfait!
Great video !!
Very nice. I hope they take care of them and keep them clean. Alsace needs these trains too.
Love these videos! BTW< they are starting the Brightline test trains from Olando to Miami in a week ahead of this post!
lovely
Great trip
Cool! Boulogne sur Mer was the site of the first World Esperanto Confrence in 1905. We went there in 2015 as part of the 100th conference (there were a few missed during the world wars).
Lindo trem gostei simplys
Beautiful looking train. We could use that here in the Northeast Corridor USA.
@Simply Railway SNCF and NS have both the Alstom Coradia trainsets but NS has the Coradia Stream set wich is capable of running on the main line and HSL South and SNCF the regiolis wich runs on regional lines
Thank you for always delivering wonderful videos. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. I have one favour to ask. It will be a reference when using the toilet, so please take a picture of the scene where the toilet water flows (the flushed water is sucked into the underfloor tank) when visiting the toilet. Please.
Vives les Corail!
You have a good dad.
Very different Coradias than the British ones (class 175 and class 180, the latter being most known for "You'll be going nowhere")!
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It's cheaper to put a diesel engine in an EMU than to build 25kV catenary, but is it a budget issue that they haven't electrified it? As a Dutchman, I'm always surprised to see non-electrified lines elsewhere in Europe. (There are non-electrified lines in the Netherlands, just not a lot, and never a main line.)
@noefillon1749
Жыл бұрын
Not really a surprise as the Netherlands are among the densest countries in Europe (460 ppl/km² in the Netherlands vs 120 in France). It's far easier to have all lines electrified (and an overall denser network and more frequent service) as you can have the ridership to sustain it. Edit : Actually after some micro-nations, the Netherlands are THE densest country in Europe
@SeverityOne
Жыл бұрын
@@noefillon1749 Yeah, I happen to live in one of those micro-nations (Malta), and the only country that has a higher population density is Monaco. Before that, I was born and bred in the Netherlands. Monaco is the outlier within Europe. Two square kilometres of very expensive real estate on the Côte d'Azur, and nothing clearly distinguishing it from France. Other areas are dependencies (ie Gibraltar), and they all have some sort of "hinterland". Malta, on the other hand, is surrounded by sea on all sides, with nowhere to go. Malta has its own military (admittedly, not the most impressive in the world), and had its own currency before adopting the euro. It has several harbours where you can moor large vessels (including cruise liners), and an airport where only the An-225 has never landed. (An-124, B747, A380, Galaxy C5, B52, even Concorde once: they have all landed here.) So you cannot simply leave it out as a "micro-nation". Having lives in both countries for decades, the population density in the Netherlands is nothing compared to that of Malta. Yes, the Randstad conurbation is impressive, but roughly half of Malta is one large urban area, with no open areas between localities. Anyway, regarding railways (which Malta no longer has), the Netherlands have a relatively sparse railway map. If you look at routes instead of tracks, it's the most heavily used in Europe (trains per route km IIRC). This is largely because there's double or even quadruple track on all the main routes.
@xavier2984
Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a budget issue. 20 years ago, the section from Boulogne to Amiens was fully non-electrified. When the electrification project was carried out, there were still 2 different regions : Nord-Pas-de-Calais and Picardie. The former paid to have the electrification on its part while the latter considered it was not a priority. In the end, only the part from Boulogne to Rang du Fliers was electrified. The regions were later merged as Hauts-de-France, but the section missing the 25 kV catenary remained. And now with bi-mode trains operating, and projects for battery or hydrogen trains, it may never be electrified.
@noefillon1749
Жыл бұрын
@@SeverityOne Except Malta, to be more precise, you're right
@lzh4950
11 ай бұрын
@@SeverityOne Meanwhile I'm from Singapore whose population density is only just below that of Monaco, which is how we manage to serve a population the size of Denmark's (but squeezed over an area the size of Bahrain) with only 200+km of track (albeit all built to subway/metro standard, (I rmb a 6-car train has a rated capacity of just 300 shy of the _Titanic_ !), & with many passengers reliant on connecting buses from train stations, which also gives us double the bus ridership of NYC). We also have deep harbours & a big renowned airport, & our own military with more/the same number of Leopard tanks (96x) & fighters (~100x) as some European countries! (as we feel more vulnerable with much larger neighbouring countries nearby) Some people imagine neighbouring Malaysia as Singapore's de-facto hinterland though
Nice new trains compared to the 3 car diesel units on the Bordeaux St Jean - Bergerac / Sarlat route
👏 Geneva with it's shiny and pricey "LémanExpress" could have deserved this confort level of Regiolis ... though i'm not sure the infrastructure in the region - outside the Coranvin-Annemasse artery - would supprt 12-car-units ... regarding the lack of Alstom Duplex stock beyond Annemasse ...
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Super video, comme d'habitude! Le TGV en gare de Boulogne, il va aussi ver Paris Nord? On en gagne combien de temps en TGV? Merci!
@SimplyRailway
Жыл бұрын
C'est kifkif... des fois le TGV est plus rapide, des fois c'est le TER
It will require a lot of battery to run the train for any length of time. (on battery only mode)
Hello, thank you for sharing your film. I had to do 1 time or 2 Amiens / Paris in these trains. In fact, in my humble opinion, the Hauts de France region has just put seats a little better than those of the 84500. The 84700 are improved cattle trucks, that's all! The problem with the Corail trains on this line is that you had to change locomotives in Amiens, and you needed staff for that! By replacing the Corail trains with dual-mode self-propelled railcars, the SNCF, with the complicity of the HdF region, has done what it knows how to do best: cut jobs. And, the worst of it all, is that the punctuality is far from better!!!! Best wishes....
@alaindumas1824
Жыл бұрын
On the contrary, SNCF is very bad at cutting jobs. Productivity (tons + passenger-km per employee) is low. Taking SNCF's productivity as basis 100, it is about 125 in Italy, 186 for CFF, 202 for RENFE, 242 for DB or Morocco's ONCF, 270 for Korail, 330 in Japan, 354 on privatized BLS, 420 in China, 2730 for US Class 1 railways.
@pehess2495
Жыл бұрын
@@alaindumas1824 So the bosses of the SNCF are right, they continue to cut jobs (and trains as a result).
@alaindumas1824
Жыл бұрын
@@pehess2495 Your assumption -a given number of jobs = a given numbers of trains- is based on the mistaken idea that employees are standardized products. In the real world, some are productive, others a pain in the neck. SNCF's problem is that the bosses cannot cut the ones hindering the operations, as most are protected by being "au statut". Japan National Railway had the same problem. At the 1987 JNR privatisation, about one in three JNR employees, crucially the unreliable ones, lost their jobs. The private JR companies who took over JNR lines did not cut one third of the trains. With a smaller number of employees, they were actually able to run safer, more numerous and more punctual trains without raising fares. Productivity went from 0,51 million passenger-km/employee to 1,443 million passenger-km/employee.
@pehess2495
Жыл бұрын
@@alaindumas1824 Well, in fact, you're right: SNCF agents are not very productive, they adapt to their country, what do you want, it's nature....
Since the talk is to put batteries on the roof, instead of filling in that gap, I’m guessing there will always be no catenary for a section of this line.
Are mondmasks still needed in France?
Can you Test the GWR Train From London paddington to penzance?
Coucou 👏, c'est un regiolis amélioré il aura jamais le confort du corail, je suis monté dedans pas terribles
That seat pitch looked terrible for anything other than a half-hour journey, max. I love the Corails and will miss them but I understand the need for level boarding and bi-mode trains, I just think they could be done better...
Why do they build railcars with a step up/step down configuration? Not very friendly for those with mobility issues. I noticed that a couple of the cars had ramps instead of stairs, but still it seems kind of a pain.
Why this sectoin is not electrificated? It isn't long?
A version of the same exact train is Germany and Austria capable B85500 can do round trip Metz Thionville Apach Pearl Trier Koblenz Hbf Moselstrecke however Trier Hbf SNCF B85500 form a combination train with Chemin du Fer Luxembourg Kiss emu for Trier Koblenz Hbf and the Luxembourg train ends at Düsseldorf hbf via Köln Hbf from Koblenz which is actually inside the American sector of West Germany. For Corail Carriages I wonder why Société Nationale Chemin du Fer Français didn't order modern version of them from the Turkish and Romanian coach manufacturers. If ordered you would have gotten them to work alongside B85500s Alsace Lorraine Allemand (Elaß-Lothringen) and Haut France Picardie services. NJ Transit version dual doors like Caltrain Stadler Kiss.
Je trouve qu'il y a pas mal de bruit de mobilier et on entend pas mal les roulement et le contact roues rail avec les imperfections qu'il peut y avoir. Pas mal de couinements aussi. C'était bien ça ou le micro est trop sensible ce que je pense pas quand même.
Alstrom has developed the Coradia Polyvalent H2 a 160km/per hour electric and hydrogen/battery train set for SNCF Regional services with planned enter into service late 2023.
Why the UK doesn't have these trains ? They look so beautiful
@srrk2508
Жыл бұрын
British Rail Class 175 and 180 are part of the same family of these trains, albeit older variants
@AndreiTupolev
Жыл бұрын
We have enough ugly new multiple units as it is
C'est moi ou les moteurs électriques sont hyper bruyants ? Je suis habitué aux régiolis de la ligne Paris - Granville, et j'ai jamais eu l'impression de les entendre autant haha
@envoyage6886
Жыл бұрын
C’est des moteurs diesel sans la caténaire
Nice ride. The Hauts-de-France region should rethink its train livery. The horrible color combination and design make the train look like buses.
This is a nice concept But its too modern 😅
Tiens je pensais que toutes les voies ferrées de France étaient électrifiées
@tomazo3207
Жыл бұрын
Pas du tout !!
@julosx
Жыл бұрын
On en est très loin en France !
SNCF stole the Latvian police livery 😂
Are you a twin?..
How long ago was this? The reason I ask is because nearly everyone is still wearing a mask.
Yes OK it's nice for a regional train but these services have been downgraded from Intercités to TER so it's defenitely worse for passengers.
I hate how North America has nothing like this.
*Promo sm* 😱
Okay but why on earth would a regional train's ticket cost so much?? 😬😬 SNCF is really shameful in this regard and the French should definitely do something about it. SNCF is property of the sate, thus the French citizens, and all the tracks got built by public money, so this company should not charge soo much for track usage, as if it was some private company that built the tracks with its own money 😒😒
Rancid. Nothing can replace the corails!
It is pretty pathetic that the measure of new trains is how much less comfortable they are in comparison to coaches from the 1970s and 1980s. These units are unusual in only being a bit worse rather than the absolutely awful that is normal across the board for new trains of the last decade.
It's not a regiolis but a CoradiaLiner
Face Masks?. Is there another outbreak in France?. 👍🏻🏴
@envoyage6886
Жыл бұрын
No
@terin1862
Жыл бұрын
Read the description
Plus les années passent, plus le réseau et l'infrastructure SNCF deviennent ceux d'un pays en cours de récession, tout cela grace à l'incurie gouvernementale, à la bêtise de certains dirigeants SNCF et aux décisions ridicules et malfaisantes de l'Union européenne. Et bien sûr, je veux parler du réseau non-TGV, même si un effort respectable est fait par les régions pour améliorer le matériel TER; quand aux Intercités n'en parlons-pas, c'est miséreux et misérable.
i hate the covid era seeing all the masks and stuff. saw these trains allot in Tournai and Lille def wanted to see what they looked like.
Why are most people wearing pointless masks or was it filmed three years ago?
Ça sert à quoi de publier une vidéo tournée il y a 2 ans ... ? Dépassée.
This livery is so ugly 🤢
To hell with cat killers!