Finally a true successor to the SD 865

@gamerslife4me938

Жыл бұрын

@Matt Tech dude lol are you gonna still say your mi10t is better yet again? I mean cmon just see the genshin impact gameplay.

@asn4777

Жыл бұрын

@Matt Tech Yes his data probably isn't as accurate as geekerwan but still a valid test

@genshininsufficientrewards533

Жыл бұрын

@@gamerslife4me938 i have mi 10t pro and my device will be 2 year old this sept 26. It runs genshin at the highest settings at stable 55-57fps as long as you keep it cool (battery temp under 35C) based on my own benchmark. Only times it frame drops is when you are on the overworld and the terrain is being generated for a split second, and also when there are fackton superconduct reactions 😂. I think devices with atleast sd 865 can play genshin at max and stable as long as device is cool enough

@EisMann61

Жыл бұрын

How about the 870?

@asn4777

Жыл бұрын

@@EisMann61 Its exactly the same silicon as the 865 and 865+

This really shows how far ahead TSMC is as compared with Samsung.

@subhayum44

Жыл бұрын

Thats a fact. But samsung really needs to step up. Otherwise we will see huge increase in price of these processors due to monopoly. Recently TSMC bumped up the Price by 20% for fabrication in smaller nodes.

@sharou7138

Жыл бұрын

Poco f4 gt is trash

@firestorm7502

Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely. I think samsung's so called 4nm is like tsmc's 10nm!!!!

@slay3rgamingyt

Жыл бұрын

taiwan #1

@subhayum44

Жыл бұрын

@@firestorm7502 actually Samsung's 10nm, 8nm and 7nm nodes were good and on par with TSMC. But since 5nm TSMC pulled off with almost 36% greater transistor density. So Samsung rushed the 5LPP and 4LPP process using cheap components and connection threads and messed up. This is why the new chips generate so much heat cause the resistance between transistors are so high.

I allowed all 4 ads to play from beginning to end. 2 ads in the middle of watching the video and 2 after watching the entire video, this way, Golden Reviewer can make some money. My little way to say thanks for your great work.

@GoldenReviewer

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you.

@VetriSengodu

Жыл бұрын

I never realised this thank you snd I will do the same 👍

@Unknownuserhtps

Жыл бұрын

Does it work if you have KZread premium? Hope he makes money off me too😅

@zexal4974

Жыл бұрын

@@Unknownuserhtps If you have KZread Premium, they will make even more money

@zexal4974

Жыл бұрын

@@Unknownuserhtps If you have KZread Premium, they will make even more money

I Love TSMC More Than Samsung

@Marlon_J

Жыл бұрын

I love Samsung for phones, but prefer tsmc for soc fabrication.

@raito2jionx

Жыл бұрын

@@Marlon_J same. but 835 was really good🤔

@honeybadger2687

Жыл бұрын

@@raito2jionx Nearly 3 years of Samsung processing Snapdragon chips and the results you already know are overheating with no progress at all. And TSMC after only 1 and a half years they fixed it very quickly.

@luciferjohnson8495

Жыл бұрын

@@raito2jionx 865 as well

@honeybadger2687

Жыл бұрын

@@raito2jionx I think Esynos should work at TSMC much better

The 8+ Gen 1 is definitely quite impressive! Definitely wouldn't buy any phone with the regular 8 Gen 1 after watching this.

@branchprediction9923

Жыл бұрын

Well a lot of people arent gamers so its fine really. Only a small boost to efficiency in daily use. Which is good but it doesnt make the 8 gen 1 obsolete

@RyanUniverseZ

Жыл бұрын

@@branchprediction9923 CPU improvements are huge People will definitely notice the faster CPU speeds and the significantly less heat produced when recording a vid or maybe rendering something

@mr.n476

Жыл бұрын

@@branchprediction9923 the original 8 gen 1 even on casual usage such as browsing instagram, facebook or even youtube produced heat than it should. its not just when gaming. i can confirm this from my poco f4 gt and my one plus 10 phones.

@traxxx4868

Жыл бұрын

@@RyanUniverseZ id think so!

@sharou7138

Жыл бұрын

Poco f4 gt is trash

After the disaster of SD888 and an even bigger disaster of SD8G1 they finally made a good Soc again.

@songoku9094

Жыл бұрын

what you mean by disaster sd888? only 8 gen 1 had problems sd888 was pretty much normal since only problem is you cannot find anything that capable of taking advantage of extra performance after sd865 series

@crazietech1984

Жыл бұрын

@@songoku9094 agreed

@OrangeRock

Жыл бұрын

@@songoku9094 Look at the thermal performance of every Snapdragon 888 device, Samsung had to Underclock it while gaming phones like Rog Phone 5 were reaching 57c and you think that's not a disaster? I saw screenshots of a phone getting "phone is overheating" while doing 3D Mark test. Snapdragon 888 struggled to hit peak performance without throttling and nothing could take advantage of it? Ever heard of Alien Isolation & Grid Autosport with custom Pc settings and frame rate cap, it even struggled to run Genshin impact, Samsung phones were literally dropping below 30 fps before Samsung throttled them. Idk what's your definition of disaster but for me snapdragon 888 easily fits in this category.

@jhkuno88

Жыл бұрын

The sd888 is a strange chip. The GPU has two modes. A 6watt mode where it has great performance but it overheats like crazy and a 3watt mode where it has great heat efficiency but the performance is comparable to sd855......the CPU is pretty good in the sd888, the main X1 core is not good but the three A78 cores are pretty efficient and perform very well....overall sd888 is a pretty good chip, is just that compared to the amazing sd865 it falls short and that's kinda bad for a supposedly more modern flagship SoC.

@sharou7138

Жыл бұрын

Poco f4 gt is trash

TSMC seems to be doing wonders for the 8+ gen 1.

@steventan6381

Жыл бұрын

I can't wait for 8 Gen 2 by TSMC.

@MendAmar

Жыл бұрын

@@steventan6381 especially if 8 Gen 2 is being made by TSMC, rumors says S23 and S24 won't feature Exynos at all because the gap will be even higher. just like how 865 was/is way ahead of 990.

@choyski6255

Жыл бұрын

@@MendAmar dont worry there's a poor bot that will defend samsung and he'll say that exynos will always be better even if its not

@furkandk2234

Жыл бұрын

@@steventan6381 i think 8 Gen 2 = SD888

@steventan6381

Жыл бұрын

@@furkandk2234 Very funny... 8 Gen 2 > 8 Gen 1+

Thanks alot sir for keeping everything so genuine and fare. You deserve 1 million subscribers

TSMC destroyed Samsung 🥴

@gockartzz8272

Жыл бұрын

Yis

@rohan7382

Жыл бұрын

Yes TSMC is old player in chip making.

@ca9inec0mic58

Жыл бұрын

Its pretty sad that the fab buisness has pretty much become a monopoly

@firdauszainudin7118

Жыл бұрын

Except for Snapdragon 810.

@faizjohn942

Жыл бұрын

Well, the Snapdragon 835 845 made by Samsung doesn't have any problems, yes it's Qualcomm's fault that the design is 8 gen 1

The overheating issues with the SD chipset lately causing it barely useable for Gaming but now I think they've slightly resolve it in SD 8+ GEN 1

@undefinablereasoning

Жыл бұрын

Checkout the Redmagic 7S Pro; apparently it doesn't throttle at all due to the built-in fan!

Shifting foundry to TSMC pays off!

man this soc is awesome! I have Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra with sd 888 and it overheats allot! not only by taking many shots, in video calls or regular calls even the phone overheats and it gets really annoying, I am looking forward to the Xiaomi 12S Ultra I have bought, I also had the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro and the 865 was so well optimized, it's good to know i'll be back to a good chipset

A very detailed video, thanks for taking the time and explaining it that way...

Wow! Finally a good mobile SoC, I am still using the Snapdragon 865 with the Mi 10T Pro, but I will definitely try to get the Xiaomi 12S Ultra this time around if it ever comes to my region!

@TALZY4PREZZIDENT

Жыл бұрын

@Matt Tech Yeah you're right. 6 months left,and then no more updates sadly from Xiaomi... I'll stick for original for a while and then I'll make it custom

It could be, even a slight physical difference, between the 2 phones? One maybe having a vapor chamber and the other not? Or something else that could improve /decrease performance due to temperature?

I was looking for a new phone for a while. My Xiaomi Mi Mix3 started to do weird things from time to time. I am not a hardcore gamer but I used to play Genshin sometimes. I always liked the idea of a flagship soc because I can't stand slow hardware. Also the more expensive phones used to get better software and therefore a longer lifespan over all imo. Long story short... I am very frustrated with current generation chips. I want a small phone because I have tiny hands but apart from the Zenfone 8, S22 and the Mi12 there isn't anything in the android world. Sadly though small phones are kind of problematic in terms of battery size. The S22 has the perfect form factor but the Exynos I would be getting here is just pain. The standby battery drain and overall efficiency problem can't be resolved with updates as it seems. The Zenfone 8 has the old SD888 and manages to suck even more despite having a bigger battery. And they used to have another hardware problem which I can't stand. The Mi12 looks to be the best out of the three but I don't like the curved screen and it does not stand out in any meaningful way either. If I don't need the performance the old chip in the Mi12x would be better in terms of battery. Isn't that crazy. Buying a new phone with years old chip because there isn't anything usable on the market. I have very very high hopes for the Zenfone 9 because it's still small and seems to be using the SD 8+ Gen1. Please be a good phone.... I beg you.

@EduardoOdiseas

Жыл бұрын

I'm also waiting for Zenfone 9, for me it's the perfect phone

Samsung is a real joker. They manage to make the SD 8 Gen 1 which is as fast as A15, to be worst than SD 870 in games. Total joke.

@subasthapa4839

Жыл бұрын

I always say, if you value performance then never ever look at the word Samsung. Experienced hater.

@jasjotbhasin36

Жыл бұрын

@@subasthapa4839 Very true they give low specifications in high price

@Seramics

Жыл бұрын

Samsung phone is crap, so is their foundry.

@WololoWololo2

Жыл бұрын

Samsung is only good at making Displays like LG LOL 😂

@clickbaitpro

Жыл бұрын

@@Seramics Not their phone, they have better hardware and design than apple. Just their semiconductor foundry.

Informative video , thanks! What a shame the crooks at Qualcomm fixed the power/heating/throttle on the old 8 Gen1, but released it in the 8+ Gen 1 at a premium price. They should have addressed it the form of the firmware or software update/fix on the old 8 Gen1.

Keep it up sir. I was Eagerly waiting for this comparison

Way to go ... you are the only reviewer that I trust .. please do more videos

For those saying that the node from Samsung compared to TSMC does not really make much difference, well here's your answer.

@user-ru8xt4ih8w

Жыл бұрын

What about sd 8 gen 2 compared to sd 8 gen 2 for galaxy ?

@redjaypatalinghug1090

Жыл бұрын

@@user-ru8xt4ih8w there's not mich differenve. Both are made by TSMC.

What is the program use in this video for view the FPS in the game Genshin Impact?

Can you do a retest with the current iOS and current Apex Legends Mobile on a iPhone 13 Pro Max? Since the new version of alm with kings canyon br map it feels weird. Maybe you can see differences to your old scores etc.

Best review as always ..love it

It will be very interesting seeing how the A16 and 8 Gen 2 will compare to each other, especially now that Qualcomm just managed to match Apple in terms of GPU performance. I'm kind of leaning towards Qualcomm exceeding Apple in GPU performance by a decent margin with the 8 Gen 2, but I do still think Apple will be far ahead in terms of CPU performance with the A16 chip.

@RyanUniverseZ

Жыл бұрын

don't forget Qualcomm has a hidden Bomb up it's sleeve Nuiva Phoenix cores are yet to be seen in Their Snapdragon xCX lineup Imagine if their claims are true with the Phoenix cores and it comes to phones

@haruyanto8085

Жыл бұрын

Huge difference when one is optimised with and for a single software and hardware, it's honestly much more impressive that Qualcomm is able to achieve competitive results while generally being in much more affordable devices

@rohithmekala2608

Жыл бұрын

@@haruyanto8085 That is because its Qualcomm whole focus as a company. They are a SoC provider unlike Apple.

@sharou7138

Жыл бұрын

Poco f4 gt is trash

@legato8748

Жыл бұрын

you mean sd 9 gen 1

Do a battery test compared it to iPhone 13pm

I love your test bro thanks you for your work ,🥰

Great comparison, in this video we can see TSMC manufacture handle the throttling with better ways than Samsung manufacture

The Gen 8 Plus 1 is doing great in my Asus Zenfone 9. They've really optimized well for the chip itself. Getting great battery life on top of Power.

& this mi12 s ultra is also seems to be a perfect all rounder in 2022.

It just amazing how Samsung still making chip unil now, i bet even tsmc can make a better exynos

How about rog phone 6 do you have plan to review it?

did you enable performance mode? you should have added these apps to gaming mode

Now THAT is progress.

few more months and we get 8 gen 2 on tsmc vs A16 lets see :D

I have a question. Does frame booster feature in game plugins really work or thats just for psychological reason?

@sushantkhatri1766

Жыл бұрын

Well i found it myself It actually reduces the frame by little but adds fake frame and gives smoother experience. You feel like playing in 60fps but the fps counter shows 38-39fps.

Hye Dimensity 8100 at Xiaomi 11T Pro, is it good? Did you try it ?

It just sucks because a lot of people including me bought the new ultra and won't likely upgrade to the next model. Considering how promising this looks I'll consider the one after, hoping they're not dumb enough to go back to Samsung.

What app he uses to see the FPS of genshin in the end of video?

I think the cooling on the 12s ultra is way better and is a big factor in this ( not as big as foundry change but next biggest one )

YOU are more than golden Reviewer .well done

Was it in performance mode in battery settings? Was expecting 1.1mil antutu score.

@GoldenReviewer

Жыл бұрын

No both are in default mode. if it's in performance mode you'll see a notification

@roguegaming6001

Жыл бұрын

@@GoldenReviewer Either performance mode or keep the app in game turbo gives good performance.

@arvind31459

Жыл бұрын

@@GoldenReviewer GIPS - Giga instructions per second

I'm more interested on Mi 12s, fairly small with the same inside.

Can someone explain how TSMC making these SOCs makes it better?

Great video thank you

For the Samsung manufacture improvement, the Snap 8 Gen 1 on S23 FE is now only 5% lower than Snap 8+ Gen 1; and it occasionally gets hot when watching videos at max brightness, just like the gen 2 and beyond.

on 3dmark wild life extreme stress test , new snapdragon 8gen +1 has huge frame drop , it show this chipset still have problem in heavy games in 60min CPU therotteling test (GSM arena on 12s ultra) it over heat(hang) ,reach 57°

@hemednassor9334

Жыл бұрын

Even rog phone 6 Throttle and heat a lot in Gsmarena Test, also Geekerwan video shows this Soc still use lot of power,

Please review the Realme GT 2 Master Explorer 🙏

Great news bro 😍

Next time you do this sort of test try and use 2 phones that have very similar cooling solutions in place. For example a Xiaomi 12 Pro with the standard Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 chipset and a Xiaomi 12S Pro that has the upgraded 8 Gen 1+ chipset.

Probably the true successor to my sd865 phone/k30prozoom But I'll upgrade if there's a Snapdragon that can do gaming in sustained 60/120fps with 2-2.5w This is good but not yet there to my liking Maybe Poco F5 will hv this soc nxt year and gives us great value,sd8 gen2 must do better aswell

@TheRealNightShot

Жыл бұрын

Keep dreaming. You're not getting something like that. Won't exist.

@starkworks6620

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealNightShot people said the same thing about sd after 845

@TheRealNightShot

Жыл бұрын

@@starkworks6620 Said what? That 855 wouldn’t have been able to achieve 120fps at 2.5W? They were right. It wasn’t. And I am right, too.

@starkworks6620

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRealNightShot something wrong with you ?

@TheRealNightShot

Жыл бұрын

@@starkworks6620 Maybe if you elaborate on your first broke English sentence, we can figure out if I am the problem or you are the problem.

My friend, why you didn't use performance mode on any of the tests? You have to do all of them again using performance mode.

Will you review the Xiaomi 12 pro dimensity edition with dimensity 9000+ and compare it to sd8+gen1?

@fruitcore461

Жыл бұрын

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Great comparison 🫶🏼 It’s nice to see that the 8Gen1+ improved a lot. Maybe we will see some really good Android Gaming phones again.

i saw realme gt2 master extreme edition better than mi interm of stability can you buy and test it in japan channel they said it close to gaming phone red magic

Im love on Xiaomi 12S Ultra. Amazing. 8gen1 + its tsmc

Will you test (at least the temperature) the Poco F4(non-GT)?

Good video and thx 👌

Hey do you mind to give a battery life review or test? SD8+G1 seems so much more efficient in all tests, but the phone's battery life seems to remain mediocre based on most online sources 🥴

@jayloving2005

Жыл бұрын

Gen 1 bettery consumes less than 2

Can’t wait to game on the Zfold 4 with this chipset

Damn that's quite an improvement in efficiency considering Qualcomm just increased the clock speeds in SD 8+ Gen 1. Can't wait for SD 8 Gen 2 phones with a new, powerful and efficient chip design so I can buy one. Currently on my good old SD 855 Galaxy S10+

@chilly1661

Жыл бұрын

Snapdragon 8 gen 1 is fabricated by samsung while the 8 gen 1 plus is fabricated by TSMC

@jayloving2005

Жыл бұрын

Gen 2 consumes higher battery than 1 due to higher frequency

@ibraheem1224

Жыл бұрын

@@jayloving2005 All reports currently point to 8 Gen 2 being more efficient than 8 Gen 1+... Will have to see some reviews though when phones actually start coming with Gen 2, to see if that's true or not

Golden reviewer I need your help which device should I buy for gaming purposes ipad pro 11 2020 (128gb) or ipad air 5 2022 (64gb)

I really want to see you do Genshin on iphone 11, because I really can’t decide whether to buy se3 or iphone11

@rice-eater6756

Жыл бұрын

IPhone 11

Very good work!!

Thanks!

Title should be SAMSUNG vs TSMC🔥

Have you heard of the brand realme? Apparently they have a new phone with dimensity 8100 I want to know if you are making a video on it, you are the only channel I can trust with reviews, most review channels are all just sugarcoating the product and not actually reviewing it

We'd be very happy if you test clpeak too

Thanks for making quality videos

Lmao, that's funny because the difference is so damn huge.

So if I want a phone for Genshin atm which could play it decently well on high settings what would the go to be? It probably takes a long time for phones to come out with SD 8 gen 1 plus which are also not overpriced..

@wahidfeb

Жыл бұрын

Dimensity 8100 from realme is one of the good option

@freshii3716

Жыл бұрын

@@wahidfeb if only the Redmi K50 was out globally

@augariiru

Жыл бұрын

poco f4 is pretty good for genshin

@YoloTub3

Жыл бұрын

Poco f3 is the cheapest option to play genshin at high settings

@zac6907

Жыл бұрын

Realme GT 2 SD 888 OP

Pls, add the benchmark apps to the game turbo, cuz the GPU won't use the turbo frequencies when without game turbo

amazing work

I think depends to MIUI that how they tweak there Performance by xiaomi developers.... Well Market strategy

Tnx bro👍

you are a great reviewer

Please Test Genshin Impact on xiomi x4 gt with blackshark cooler 2 Thank you!

@Exnajeha

Жыл бұрын

Better buy Legion Y90 with double cooling fan built in... same fukin price as well

A bit out of topic, but if i want to buy a cooler or fan for my phone (Realme GT Neo 3), which one do you recommend??

@jhkuno88

Жыл бұрын

The magnetic BlackShark one. Try to make it contact directly where the chip is for greater effect. Watch a teardown of the phone to see where it is.

@zer3m1games34

Жыл бұрын

I have realme GT Neo 3 also but playing genshin impact in medium 60fps without fan cooler is already enough. Why do u need fan cooler tho?

@fitraramadhan9230

Жыл бұрын

@@jhkuno88 if i'm using a case, is it better to use the magnetic or the funcooler one?

@fitraramadhan9230

Жыл бұрын

@@zer3m1games34 to play highest 60 xD

@jhkuno88

Жыл бұрын

@@fitraramadhan9230 dont use a case

How’s the efficiency in the CPU department vs A15?

Great job bor❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Can you try the black shark 5 pro too

Hellooo saw your video after long timeeeee 😍😍💋💋

Use Catalyst Black for gaming performance test

Please Compare Xiaomi 12 Pro SD 8 gen 1 vs 12 Pro Dimensity 9000+ vs Xiaomi 12S Pro SD 8+ gen 1

Knowing snapdragon soc for quite a while it slows down after a year and i doubt that the performance is really real since the issue :)

What about the cooling system of each phone? Are they comparable enough?

@luxyrx3717

4 ай бұрын

Actually poco gt has better cooling system since it for gaming...better test it on rog phone too

2020:Snapdragon was in danger💀... 2023:Mediatek will in danger💀...

@samson4415

Жыл бұрын

You missed out exynos

@Golden reviewer pls test apex legends mobile on xiomi 12s ultra its needed man !!! even flagship smartphones struggle to give 60 fps in extreme settings ... some of them also stuuter while landing .... this phone will be a great device to try this game on plssssssssssss

Congratulations Qualcomm! Hoping gen2 not going back to Samsung fabrication

dude i want to ask you something i want to buy a new device and i am stuck between poco f3 and f4 gt i only play mlbb game sd8 gen 1 is not stable and battery is bad I heard that you have a problem. I don't know what to do. Can you help me?

@faldanhendraabiyanka3240

Жыл бұрын

Just pick poco f4 (not f4 gt), it has f3 specs but with improvement on charging speed and camera.

TSMC 🔥🔥

I have the Xiaomi 12. I want the 12S but it's not sold in Europe

@big_smoke7t

Ай бұрын

I bought the 12s from one of the chinese sellers last month, costed 400$ and so far so good, though the only thing that annoyed me a little was how independent chinese rom is from google.you have to manually install all the google services but after that you're fine.

@big_smoke7t

Ай бұрын

Also how's your xiaomi 12's camera performance?

@Undisputed_King

Ай бұрын

@@big_smoke7t decent. I rarely ever take pictures

TSMC is a big diff 🙂

Amazing

It's great that Xiaomi black Shark 5 pro Snapdragon 8 gen 1 is ahead in aututu than this mi 12s ultra. Can't wait to see black Shark 5s pro. But mi 12s ultra is the all rounder best flagship without the gaming phone tittle.

Qualcomm should drop making their SoC by samsung. TSMC is the king here !

the pocco its not a the apropiate contender you should use a Red Magic 7 or black shark 5

У меня Dimensity 1200 Al(TSMC) , очень хороший хватит,у был mt6750t ужас печка до 80c° градусов не нравился,но не ломал уже 5 года!!

@Hassouni-E34

Жыл бұрын

😂

wait 2.02 ghz on the small cores? i thought they advertised 1.8?

Hey golden retriever, Thanks for being objective.