SN1 Reactions with Carbocation Rearrangements

In this tutorial we are going to discuss the fundamentals of the carbocation rearrangements in SN1 reactions.
PS: there's an error in the original example: the two unrearranged products should be diastereomers, of course, not enantiomers.
00:00 Tricky Example
01:04 Carbocation Stability Trends
04:35 What Exactly is the Carbocation Rearrangement?
06:06 Why Do the Carbocation Rearrangements Happen to Begin With?
08:13 Re-Analyzing the Original Tricky Question
10:51 Example 1
12:30 Example 2
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  • @bissykumpuckal7756
    @bissykumpuckal77568 ай бұрын

    Very organized and helpful!!!

  • @omertunabarutcu2189
    @omertunabarutcu218920 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the video. It helps me a lot.

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    18 күн бұрын

    You are welcome! 👍

  • @NusratKhan-fw7rz
    @NusratKhan-fw7rz7 ай бұрын

    Hey sir give me plz some named group reaction for carbocation

  • @dinaalbedour413
    @dinaalbedour41310 ай бұрын

    Hey Doctor Vector, in the last example the product we got it is said that it has 2 chiral carbons, but the first carbon has two phenyl groups, while a chiral carbon shall have 4 different groups, so how come it is chiral? I will be glad for an explanation, thanks.

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    10 ай бұрын

    That’s an error. I’ve made a few mistakes in the videos in this series, so I’m redoing the entire series this semester.

  • @edcaffyn-parsons4927
    @edcaffyn-parsons49272 жыл бұрын

    Dear Victor, why does this reaction not proceed via a phenonium intermediate with intramolecular contribution from the phenyl ring? I have seen similar reactions with -OTs instead of -OH in AcOH where this occurs as a major pathway (retention of stereochemistry).

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    2 жыл бұрын

    It does. As I've mention in the video, it's an oversimplification of the actual mechanism. I do talk about phenonium ions in my video on tricky rearrangements. And to answer your question, it really depends on the substrate and conditions of the reaction. Phenonium ion can either be a pathway of rearrangement or it can be doing, essentially, an anchimeric assistance function, hence the retention of stereochemistry. Within the scope of an intro organic chemistry, we don't go into those aspects at all, so I didn't include those here either. Would've made the video too advanced and difficult to comprehend with all those details included.

  • @edcaffyn-parsons4927

    @edcaffyn-parsons4927

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor Great thank you, love your videos.

  • @monicamutin3851
    @monicamutin38518 ай бұрын

    Hi! At around 9:20, why did you choose to do the hydride shift rather than the alkyl shift (since there's a methyl on the tertiary carbon, can't you do the alkyl shift too?) Thanks!

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    8 ай бұрын

    The general migratory aptitude goes: H>Ph>alkyls, so you would normally prioritize the hydride shift over the alkyl shift. The only time when the alkyl shift is more favorable is in the case of small rings that can undergo ring expansion and reduce the ring strain, or when the molecule is conformationally locked making a hydride shift impossible due to the orbital symmetry limitations, but we don’t typically talk about latter in a sophomore course. So, for our purposes always prioritize the hydride shift when possible.

  • @monicamutin3851

    @monicamutin3851

    8 ай бұрын

    Okay, thank you so much!!@@VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

  • @Jobsearch9
    @Jobsearch96 күн бұрын

    for the 2nd example, why wasn't the polar protic solvent used. also for the first example how did u know to use 2 of the ethanol's and not just stop at one.

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    6 күн бұрын

    What is more nucleophilic, the acetic acid or the acetate anion? Solvent is always in excess in SN1 reactions, so statistically speaking, it's the solvent that's going to act as a base and not bromide. Coincidentally, if we check the corresponding pKa values for the conjugate acids, we'll see that alcohols are actually more basic than the bromide anion!

  • @leslievillegas4367
    @leslievillegas43673 ай бұрын

    How do you know when to draw the wedge and dashes for the products? Is it because the sp2 hybridatzation?

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    3 ай бұрын

    It depends on the molecule 🤷‍♂️ If you have a carbocation intermediate that makes a chiral carbon upon reaction with a nucleophile, then you would show the corresponding stereochemistry using the wedge-dash notation, if you end up with a non-chiral carbon, showing dashes and wedges is pointless for that specific atom.

  • @CassiusAchilles
    @CassiusAchilles11 ай бұрын

    In the first example with the 'wrong' minor products before rearrangement, even though we have an X through them I see you labeled them enantiomers. Are those not diastereomers? There are two chiral centers. The wedge methyl group is R and remains R while the substituted carbocation, without rearrangement is R and S. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Of course, it isn't that important, I just want to make sure I'm seeing this correctly. Also 6:03 "so groups can hop from carbon to another, cool beans!" I love it! So engaging. 🙂Excellent video again.

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, they are diastereomers. Sort of crept in when I was making changes from the drafts 😆 I should prolly need to add the note in the description.

  • @adamatom2826
    @adamatom28267 ай бұрын

    in the last example, why was a shift necessary at all? Aren't we going from a 3 carbon to a 3 carbon?

  • @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    @VictortheOrganicChemistryTutor

    7 ай бұрын

    If you can make a more stable carbocation, then there’s a driving force for the rearrangement.