I appendix carry often, where is my appendix carry gang at!? What gun are y'all carrying? What is your favorite holster and why is it an Eclipse Holster?

@762x69

Жыл бұрын

Aiwb all day brother! Y'all ain't gonna like me tho. I carry a G43 in a blackhawk stache&nacho combo. Not good for the cool guy but I am pretty damn comfortable apart from the run and gun Trex rig I adore except while I'm working and shopping for the family 😅

@rickberrey1642

Жыл бұрын

Sidecar holster or no sidecar? I currently use sidecar and am wondering if it’s unnecessary bulk.

@droppinbrass5240

Жыл бұрын

Thats the only way i carry. Glock 19 with rmr and tlr 7 in a trex arms holster

@killercurl1

Жыл бұрын

g22 no holster or belt one in the pipe. had far less ND then one would think.

@Savageplumber85

Жыл бұрын

Black arch with extra mag holder. With Hellcat Pro. I love it. And I’m a bigger guy, too.

Caleb’s dry sense of humor is top notch.

@___.___._____

Жыл бұрын

He had me laughing... one way or the other

@tomfrommichigan

Жыл бұрын

I believe Caleb would be a fun guy to hang out with.

I carry appendix and I trust Steve and Caleb to protect my junk.

About the comment about people's weight: I am a fat guy. It isn't impolite to mention those sorts of things. In fact, it is really important. Everybody's body is different, and learning how to carry was really hard for me. I have a box of holsters that don't work for my body type. We all have different bodies and it is important to recognize that something you suggest for one body type might not work for somebody else. Thank you for being real about that.

@RandyMarsh-dh9es

4 ай бұрын

What did you find luck with?

Appendix is the only way I can comfortably carry and I love it. I am a big DA/SA fan (CZ P-01 is my current CCW) and having a decocker and an exposed hammer I can feel in case it moves is a huge safety comfort.

@mrenfilade7178

Жыл бұрын

Ditto.

@kagyu1

Жыл бұрын

Same here . P-01 every day. Philster helps with some Covid weight.

@chocolatemonk

Жыл бұрын

I ride my thumb on the hammer when holstering and reholstering my Omega

"So, one way you bleed out you die immediately... the other way, you probably wish you would have... " - Legendary

If you appendix carry in a holster that doesn’t completely protect the trigger you’re idea of safety is half cocked.

@DavidLLambertmobile

Жыл бұрын

I saw a online video of a guy, 45-50 carrying a semi auto A-IWB he was talking to staff then as he sat, his gun went 💥. I'm 51 & a ccw user, armed security officer 🚔. I use strong side OWB about 90% of the time. Cross draw or shoulder rigs in winter, long car trips-office jobs.

@dummgelauft

Жыл бұрын

And that is exactly what a male appedix carrier may be left with..in case of an accident...

One product I would recommend for anyone carrying a Glock in the appendix position is a striker control device.. It’s essentially a replacement back plate that gives you the added security that comes with carrying a DA/SA gun. The “Lucky Gunner” channel has a video all about it and is where I first heard of the device. I have one on my Glock 19 that I carry appendix and consider it an absolute MUST HAVE.

@notso5734

3 ай бұрын

Are they still being made?

I have been conceal carrying for just over a year now. I used to prefer just behind the hip but always carry appendix now. It's easier to conceal, closer to your center, faster to draw, and the main things for me was constantly checking my shirt in case it came up from getting in and out of my car, and people being able to see or grab it while standing in line.

Best video ever your detail on the GLOCK striker/firing pin needed to be said.

I had an accidental discharge with my Glock at my 4 o'clock position during a (complicated) training exercise while holstering the gun (trigger finger got caught). Entirely my fault. I felt like someone had really slapped my a$$, and for a moment I was afraid to look, expecting bloody rags. However, the 4 o'clock position had saved me, and everything was ok, except for my pride. Knowing my limitations by that experience, I would never consider appendix carry. Personal decision, of course.

@TrueOpinion99

Жыл бұрын

If your trigger finger was still in the trigger guard...your method of carry is irrelevant. You were the dumbass, not the part of your body where you put your holster.

@ancliuin2459

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueOpinion99 You misunderstood. That's what I wrote: "entirely my fault". Knowing that my mind is liable to let stuff slip when under stress has caused me to limit the possible damage by choosing a place to carry that has less consequences when stuff slips again. Damage mitigation.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

This is why training is so, so important. You're always going to have a chance of messing up under stress if it's not trained into muscle memory. And one of the most basic things to train are the rules of firearms safety. Keep your finger OFF the trigger until you are ready to shoot, right? And you can't be ready to shoot until you can see your sights, your target, and are aware of what lies beyond the target, right? If you don't have that down to muscle memory, there's no safe way for you to carry, to be honest. It should be apart of your every interaction with your gun. Time for another 5000 rounds of dry fire, eh?

@TrueOpinion99

Жыл бұрын

@@ancliuin2459 - Or, you train and practice to such a degree that you have to make a conscious effort to not do something correctly.

@libertycosworth8675

Жыл бұрын

@@ancliuin2459 A negligent discharge indicates a failure to follow the 4 primary rules of firearms safety. A negligent discharge while reholstering, specifically that your finger was anywhere near the trigger during reholstering is a clear example of that too. If you are doing a self admitted complicated training exercise and had an ND, you missed the basics of firearms handling and failed to properly follow the 4 primary rules. I would be more concerned about trigger discipline than holster location first and foremost. Reholstering any firearm safely on any part of your body requires a clear and deliberate action to ensure an ND does not occur (IE - a shoulder holster with someone potentially behind you comes to mind). There isn't any reason in the world I could imagine having to reholster fast without deliberate positive control of all facets of gun safe handling. When I holster the firearm at the range (or anywhere else) I clearly have any and all of my fingers well away from being anywhere near the trigger, and I clear any garment or other potential obstruction with my support hand, and I slowly and smoothly return the firearm to the holster (or I remove the holster from my body, carefully and deliberately return the firearm to the holster and then put the holster back on my body). Please go back to step one of safe firearms handling, and re-read the 4 primary rules of safe firearms handling, and then repeatedly practice them in a safe location with a clear and safe firearm, without any live ammunition anywhere in the room.

100% agreement about a Glock for appendix carry since it is not fully cocked! Another common practice amongst the folks I shoot and train with is to never holster the gun on the body. We all use a holster similar to the Eclipse holster shown (alien gear and concealment express are examples), we always holster the gun off the body to absolutely prevent the possibility of getting a shirttail or key ring caught in the trigger guard, then put on the entire holstered gun. It's an extra step, especially while training (we train how we carry), but it's a lot safer! Great video! Important subject.

@lowerspeedhigherdrag

Жыл бұрын

I would avoid the sig p320 if your gonna appendix. But otherwise yup spot Ok

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@lowerspeedhigherdrag With millions of 'em sold, you can't let a couple of videos that only have claims and still photos of the aftermath as evidence. For every claim of a self firing holstered SIG, there's always an explanation for how the trigger got pressed. Of course, its rather embarrassing to admit you caused a ND if you're supposed to be a trained shooter, so you get these claims. But nobody can ever show the actual safety mechanisms having failed, which is the only way a SIG (or any other striker fired handgun) can shoot itself with no trigger depression. Even with the drop safety issue, it was still only occurring with a trigger press. However, it was inertia moving the trigger.

@TerminalM193

Жыл бұрын

@@theKashConnoisseur I take it you missed the latest incident from the guy shooting in a competition?

@TerminalM193

Жыл бұрын

Damn that sounds absolutely nauseating. I can't imagine having to go through that process every time I want to train. I would have to find a completely different loop or belt clamp design to even consider such a thing. This would be a nightmare at a public training course..... You don't still do this during dry practice right?

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@TerminalM193 I saw the video. Pretty obvious that he caught some of the cloth from his top into his trigger guard when he holstered. Hence why his gun went off when he raised his hands. Shoulders going up, pulls on the cloth which pulls the trigger. His return spring broke when the gun detonated in the holster, obviously. Nobody who has claimed their SIG shot itself has been able to show that the safeties failed. Unless the striker safety is sheared off, alongside the TWO sear safety ledges, there's no way for the gun to fire without a trigger press. And when there's an obvious explanation for how the trigger got pressed.... Guns don't shoot themselves.

I carry either a G48 or G19.5 in a Vedder LightTuck w/claw. Before I switched, it was a CZ P-07 AIWB. 👍🏻

THESE TWO ARE BETTER CO HOSTS THAN MOST OF WHAT I SEE ON TV AND CABLE. GOOD BACK AND FORTH. ENTERTAINING AND INFORMATIVE. THEY COULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AND I'D FIND IT ENJOYABLE TO WATCH. BEST LINE: "ONE WAY, YOU BLEED OUT IN FOUR SECONDS... THE OTHER, YOU PROBABLY WILL WISH YOU HAD...

@Weasel6

Жыл бұрын

Why are you yelling?

@kodoan411

Жыл бұрын

@@Weasel6 MANY PEOPLE WITH POOR EYESIGHT RELY ON CAPS WHEN TYPING. UNFORTUNATELY, MOST PEOPLE UNDER 30 SEE IT AS YELLING WHEN, IN REALITY, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR ---> !!! I MEAN NO DISRESPECT.

You NAILED it! That’s exactly what I teach in my classes. Can’t wait for the next video. I appendix carry always and use a Dark Star holster so I can remove holster and gun at the same time. That extra layer of safety makes a huge difference by avoiding administrative handling.

this series needs it's own channel!

I'm 6'4", 275 lbs and have a decent gut. I appendix carry comfortably. I can drive, bend over, sit, etc. with no real issue. It took a while for me to find the right holster that was safe and fit my body well. I carry a Glock 19 or my Taurus G3C (this has been a phenomenal gun) and with my body shape, the little larger guns still don't print and are comfy.

@leewilkinson6372

Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh but can you roll over? Beg? 😆

Great video. You 2 fellas are awesome together. Thanks for the info. I, myself, carry a body type that won't allow for comfortable appendix carry....

@lowerspeedhigherdrag

Жыл бұрын

I'm a bit on the fluffy side myself. I personally will say anyone can carry appendix with the correct holster. The key is finding which one for you.

Hi. A crossdraw front carry is much safer (not for bystanders). Good for seated position in a car. And allows the option for longer barrels. Thank You.

@richardthomas6602

Жыл бұрын

Agree but then all outside the waistband carry positions are more comfortable than all inside the waistband carry positions.

@Weasel6

Жыл бұрын

Generally speaking crossdraw is not recommended for anyone

I'll just say every method of carry is only as safe as the firearm and the shooter, but it'd suck a lot more to be the guy getting the first Sig P320 misfire if you're carrying appendix.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

Long as you don't try and holster your gun with part of your hoodie tucked into the holster, it's no more likely to fire itself than a Walther or a S&W.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@wilekrowan3610 When you look at the photos he shared and the story he told, it's obvious he tucked in cloth with the gun when he holstered. That's why it went off when he put his hands up, shoulders rising pulled on the cloth which pulled the trigger. EVen with a broken return spring (which absolutely broke when the gun detonated in the holster), that won't defeat the striker safety or the TWO sear safety ledges. Guns don't fire themselves.

@jhutch1470

Жыл бұрын

@@theKashConnoisseur You're full of shit.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@jhutch1470 Sorry the evidence didn't fit your biases.

@chuckster243

Жыл бұрын

@@theKashConnoisseur You might want to check a few more vids before you subscribe to that idea.

I have appendix carried before and have no problem with it but I find the 3 o'clock position to be the most comfortable carry location for me.

@onpsxmember

Жыл бұрын

Right on the hip? What holster, weight, belt?

@robertivey3268

Жыл бұрын

@@onpsxmember Since I am left handed, I carry at 9 o'clock but the same applies. For a belt I use a Core Essentials belt and am very happy with it. It is very stiff but I don't find that that is any problem. It gives the holster a lot of support no matter how I carry. As for holsters, my preferred vary by application. My favorites are Crossbreed, Alien Gear, and Werkz. Being a lefty and having a laser on my 365XL, there are only a few that will work for me. Same holds true for my P320 compact with an Olight laser/light. Good luck in your search.

@keithtate1241

Жыл бұрын

@@onpsxmember Pretty much right on my hip with a kydex IWB holster and a Sub-compact 9 or 40. The belt is a core essentials.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

I find it hard to access at 3 o'clock when seated, especially when in the car with a seatbelt over everything. Appendix has only been slightly less comfortable for me, but it more than makes up for it in terms of concealment and speed of draw.

Love you guys! It's fun to hear your explanation of man parts,. Please keep up the great job!!! Thank You!

Well, I've been appendix carrying since 1980 and I have nothing to add... you covered it all, maybe just a little more emphasis on 're-holstering'. A fast draw is great, but never get in a hurry to re-holster. Take your time, do it right, preferably remove the holster, place the gun in it, and then replace the entire hoster/gun as a unit.

What's the old safety adage , never point the gun at anything you don't intend to shoot ?

It's generally when people re-holster that some piece of clothing gets into the trigger guard and they shoot themselves. This applies to any IWB holster, but appendix is pointing at your most vital parts when this happens.

Appendix weirded me out a little when i first started carrying. After some time and dry practice I do it everyday. My favorite types to carry are DA/SA with the hammer down, or a SA 1911 cocked and locked. Glocks are also very safe as was mentioned in the video. The main rules are finger always off the trigger when holstering and keep it holstered. So far decocking my CZ has always ensured that I don’t decock myself.

As long as it isn’t a Sig which is known for shooting by itself or another trash gun, appendix carry is in my opinion the best for concealed carry on the body. It is in front of you and easily accessible.

I only appendix carry, never had any issues. It is just the best way for me. I've carried anything from my Taurus g2c to my Glock 40 that way, so I can't say I agree on the short barrel part. But I agree that it is plenty safe, and comfortable with the right holster.

I've only been carrying every day for the past couple years but shooting since I was little. I carry the kimber micro 9 or my p365. I always thought it was silly to hear about how many holsters people have stock piled....till I seen first hand!!! Im still trying to figure out the best for appendix carry.

The last eight or nine holsters I've purchased are Vedder AIWB. I find them more comfortable for EDC than anything I've owned over the past 50 years. If you're like me and your gun goes in your belt when you dress for the day, comfort is important.

I've been conceal carrying off duty for 30 years. The last 15 years it's been appendix. It just seems the most natural for me. Quick access and real good retention and defense of the weapon. So that's what I train to. I've been carrying a Glock 23, Gen 2 since 1992 and I picked up a Springfield XD Subcompact .40 when I retired!

The only handgun I could see carrying in the appendix position is a J-frame type DA revolver. They tend to have a heavy DA trigger pull which would all-but-eliminate the possibility of a ND. A design with a shrouded hammer like a Model 49 would be even better.

Appendix carry isn't unsafe. I just don't want a gun pointing at my nuts.

@petepeter1857

Жыл бұрын

NuffSaid

I'm a fat man, and sadly appendix carry is very uncomfortable...

@davek5027

Жыл бұрын

I hear ya

@onpsxmember

Жыл бұрын

There is a holster that is called 'fat guy holster' or close to that from several companies. That might be worth trying.

Brownells always puts out superb content. Steve an Caleb deliver it every time. Thanks, gents!

If you're really worried about appendix carry, DA/SA hammer fired guns are also great choices since you can press the hammer down with your thumb as you holster to prevent an ND

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

Even without a hammer fired gun, appendix carry is safe given safe action by the user. One big mistake that can get anyone using any gun is not minding basic gun safety. Literally, there are folks who move to holster with their finger on the trigger. Another, and related probably, is rushing to re-holster. If you're not mindful of where the gun is going, what might be in the way, or if anything might be inside of/obstructing the holster... things happen. I'm willing to bet that shirt tails tucked into trigger guards accidentally have led to a bunch of "my gun shot itself!" moments.

I don't care what trustworthy model of gun I'm using, I simply don't want it pointing at my junk. You can appendix carry if you're comfortable with it, but 3 or 9 o clock positions would make me less anxious about carrying in general.

@TrueOpinion99

Жыл бұрын

A holstered gun isn't "pointed," and a proper appendix setup won't "point" the gun at anything except the ground.

I'm an overweight appendix carry guy for the past 10yrs with no issues or concerns. I carry the S&W Shield in a Alien Gear holster and it works great for me. I want my firearm accessible while seated in my car. Being a big guy it would be to difficult to draw from between my body and the center console arm rest.

Love your smythbuster series.

I always say appendix carry if you want. Makes no difference to me. You won’t find me doing it that’s all

@DinoNucci

Жыл бұрын

Correct

I carry both, for long car rides I typically carry appendix because it’s easier. Also if I’m doing a lot of standing and non labor intensive things I think appendix is better. But, most of the time I am working and bending over and squatting a lot to pick up large objects and for me that’s where 3-4 o’clock really shines is for a more active lifestyle. Key thing is quality holster and good awareness and training. Also for those that have had inguinal hernias like myself or just have back issues, appendix can be a little cumbersome. Giving your body a break front loading all of that weight and transferring it to your hips does help after weeks of appendix. Just my two cents and personal experiences carrying firearms. Great video 👍

Devil's advocate: What about that rule "never point a gun at something you are not willing to destroy?"

I just want to say I've tried both my full size beretta 92 and my wife's 380EZ appendix and find the beretta more comfortable. It feels like the longer barrel follows my leg when I'm sitting down and pushes it out of the way. The EZ digs in more, maybe something smaller would be more comfortable but that's what I got

@timonthetube92

Жыл бұрын

You're not wrong. M&P9 with a TLR1 was normally more comfortable than a tiny gun. I don't know why, you might be right about the leg pushing it. I just know it works and I'm happy.

I could not get comfortable AIWB. Might have been because I have a bit of a belly or me being highly particular about how things fit and feel

Risk/benefit analysis is the key. Trained people who observe safety and have a well-working firearm that you are intimately familiar with, risk is minimal, but you had better know what you are doing.

@ForthcomingTruth

Жыл бұрын

One in the chamber. Don't depress the trigger. Other than that learn how to clear your shirt then drop and build grip while you get eyes on target... really not hard at all...

@bobjohnson1633

Жыл бұрын

A rigid holster that covers the trigger guard completely is a pretty necessary safety

@DavidLLambertmobile

Жыл бұрын

Guns are not props or fashion statements. If you choose to use A-IWB or any carry style, be aware of safety, 🦺 . Don't be a jerk and feel everyone around you is wrong!

I’ve been carrying my Glock 19 ABWB in a cherries bwb holster for over 10 years. Before that another ten years aiwb I don’t remember the holster it was so long ago. I would always take the holster off when reholstering my Glock 19 the first few years of aiwb carrying but after a while I got in the habit of ether having my shirt tucked in or pulling it completely up when reholstering.

Carried appendix since 2017. Glock 19, glock 42, glock 43x MOS, sig p365, sig and a p365x macro. It's the best concealment position for my body type. I work on cars and even go running like this with a weapon light and optic most of the time. I use a sidecar rig with a spare mag. Always feel the most comfortable with the glocks though.

But what if you don't have an appendix? I do however agree that reguardless of how you carry clear and look when you reholster. You two are like the really cool uncle every youngster needs. A lot of good teaching moments on safty in your content. Thank you both.

I'm a very big guy and I only appendix carry. My EDC is a Canik TP9 Elite SC with a Hidden Hybrid holster. I wear untucked shirts when I carry and I wear pants just below my belly button (over my stomach) Since my pants are not below my belly it is comfortable to appendix carry. Also being a big guy, appendix is the easiest access location especially when I'm sitting/driving.

I've been known to Appendix carry quite often, and understand the body parts that are in jeopardy, you said it, confident with your firearms and A LITTLE COMMON SENSE GOES REALLY ALONG WAY,the best Safety we have is planet between our Ears 🧠

I appendix carry normally but working on the ranch ive just switched to an ironside minimal otb holster. Keeps it comfy and somewhat concealed but fof city i conceal appendix. Great control, what i trained draw with, and great protection. With every holster, the gun is poonting at you in some position. Be aware of the retention and trigger. Practice before u draw. Etc makes for safe habits

2 questions to help me understand better. 1) if the Glock's striker were released from the 95% at rest position, is it really true a cartridge would not fire? Perhaps the spring compression isn't linear but a 5% difference between success and failure seems well cutting it very close to bet your life on. 2) why deliberately break, even flaunt, very basic safety rules because, what, I'm special or I know more than anyone else so they don't apply to me. I'd offer, given the choice between the two, a professional should ALWAYS go for safety and NEVER promote a practice contrary to basic safety. Otherwise is to deminish your credibility. Thanks for reading. I would appreciate responses to both questions, they are honest questions.

I carry a Glock 19, both hip and appendix carry. Although it is not the most appropriate gun for the latter type of carry (the Glock 26 probably is) it isn’t that bad, either. I wear a Galco TUC226, which is not great in the reholstering department and I usually have to wiggle the pistol a little, in order for it to open the part of the holster that covers the triggerguard, that tends to collapse under belt or pants pressure. I agree with Steve that Glocks are possibly among the safest pistols to have “cocked” and pointed at your body, but I also think that the real safety comes from NEVER putting your finger in the triggerguard until your gun is pointed at your intended target. Thus, most guns will be safe enough for appendix carry, IMHO.

When I first started carrying many years ago I tried appendix carry. It worked ok but for me it just was not comfortable when sitting down. I IWB carry at the 3 or 4 o'clock position depending on what I'm wearing and it's way more comfortable for me. Of course YMMV. It's important to stick with whatever works best for you, not what other people say or think you should do

I'm in a wheelchair, seated all the time, appendix carry is very fast draw for me but it not comfortable when I lean forward wheeling up a ramp or hill. G19 is my edc.. I ended up 9 a clock owb carry instead. Beautiful S&W there by the way.

Excellent video as always 👍

I've appendix carried for many years and the only thing that I disagree with is the comment about needing a short barrel. I personally prefer appendix carry with my full size 1911. The barrel helps hold the grip into my body to minimize protruding as it rests between my thigh and my man parts. An accidental discharged in this position will miss both the femoral artery and my man parts.

The vast majority of holsters nowadays are one clip kydex arrangements, and they pop off and on easily. So pop the holster off, reholster the firearm in a safe direction, and then put the holstered firearm back on your belt. There is no need to tactically reholster 3 seconds faster than the safe way.

I've been appendix carrying a compact size 1911 for years. Compact size because of size AND weight! 1911 because of two safeties! I've come to the conclusion over the years, if your carry gun is too big and/or too heavy AND you don't feel safe carrying it, you WON'T! I appendix carry primarily for access to your gun while driving! I had an old school shooting instructor advise me to always check the safety prior to holstering AND place my thumb over the hammer when holstering on appendix carry and I've been doing that ever since! Plus with a 1911, you can easily and inconspicuously put your hand under your shirt from time to time and do a safety check!

I have to start by saying I am a bigger guy, but I often choose to appendix carry especially as it gets colder and I have thicker clothes on. Lately I have been carrying the PDP, but prior to getting that this year I carried a Glock19, with an extra mag in a Trex arms holster. Absolutely no complaints once I got it set right and actively trained to get familiar with it.

I appendix carry with a compact semi auto in a Very comfortable Hidden hybrid holster. Leather back(suede side belt clip an a claw, adjustable cant an retention. U have to find the comfortable area where the barrel rests an the grip gives full accessibility with finger clear of the trigger when drawing weapon. Thanks

I'M TOO BIG IN THE WRONG PLACES TO CARRY THIS WAY, SO I DON'T. BUT JUST AS MOTORCYCLISTS USED TO SAY ABOUT HELMETS, LET THSE WHO RIDE DECIDE. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO LEARN TO REHOLSTER SAFELY AND IF YOU HAVE AN EXPOSED HAMMER HANDGUN, IT'S EASIER (AND SAFER) STILL !!! GREAT VIDEO, GUYS !!!

I've been carrying appendix only for about 3 years now. Still have my twig and berries intact 😅

With training and testing each time with the current clothes it's okay. If I'd carry a Glock I'd want the striker control device back plate thingy, the one from Langdon Tactical, so the trigger can't be pulled when the thumb is pushing on the backplate. As most carry options, there are downsides in certain circumstances. The distance to it is the same when someone tries to grab it. Especially when one is on top of the other. The concealment is important, one handed draws need to work and as always situational awareness to not even get into a mess. I'm intrigued by those harness options that evade belts all together. You should get into that topic more especially with more winter clothing soon.

I find it easy to always remember to reholster carefully, slowly, and with line of sight considering the consequences of the contrary includes a potential second circumcision.

"I don't wanna shoot my junk off!!!" - the same guys who carry a 1911 cocked & locked on their hip Jokes aside, I've carried a G19/G26 appendix-carry for the last 6 years since I obtained my CCW. Spend no less than $50 on a molded KYDEX holster with NO GIVE, that completely covers up the trigger well, that set-up is as safe if not safer than any other carry method, fullstop.

@jfruser

Жыл бұрын

At times I carry C&L 1911 AIWB. Those guys you make fun of are much less likely to shoot their junk off than anyone using AIWB. For the simple fact that most of their administrative gun handling is no where near their junk.

@JJ_SDWR

Жыл бұрын

@@jfruser the people I was "making fun of" are ones who think any one method of carry is useless or completely wrong, or who are beholden to cold war era wives tales about guns. The folks who say things like "I don't carry plastic/tupperware guns/I don't carry anything that don't start with a '.4" type things. I'm not knocking guys who carry 1911s, that's your right. But if you're open-carrying a heavy-ass 1911 with a round chambered and your hammer cocked to the rear and you're cracking jokes about the carrying-habits of others (I've seen it, my local gun shows, indoor range, and mom & pop ammo shops...), then yeah I'm gonna make fun a bit. AIWB is plenty safe if you have a quality holster and a safe gun. That's all. And I don't even consider the notion of where on your anatomy you might shoot yourself in the event of a negligent discharge into my carrying decisions. If AIWB is dangerous because you'll shoot your d*ck off, then 3 o'clock carry is just as dangerous because you'll shoot yourself in the femoral artery. Caleb kinda mentioned that in this video. That's why I said buy a good holster and keep your finger out of the trigger well completely until you're pointed down range, then the hypotheticals about shooting yourself don't matter.

I am not a small guy and I still appendix carry. Though adjustments are needed for going between sitting and standing and a small gun helps, but I have appendix carried a Canik SF Elite which is about the same size as a Glock 19 and with a red dot at that. Though my usual carry is a S&W Shield 1.0. The key is the right holster. Something that is not that much larger then the gun itself.

I appendix carry 7 days a week and have done so for the past 4 years. I carry a DA/SA Sig P229 in a JM Custom Kydex holster. It's the most comfortable way to carry I have found.

If I needed to carry a firearm I would carry it appendix. I like the peace of mind having the gun always in front of me. Having a gun in the back bothers me as somebody could see it when I lean forward or bend over something and then perhaps be tempted to approach me and take the gun from me. Also, if you carry appendix all you need to do is look down if you're concerned in any way about the state of your firearm. My choice would be Taurus 850 all-stainless-steel wheelgun with fully concealed hammer in a Stealth Gear Ventcore Appendix holster. The safest possible firearm to carry in arguably the most comfortable holster to carry it in. This combo serves me well on the range or when I carry it unloaded around my house. I could walk all day with it.

I personally don’t carry this way because I found it uncomfortable.

Appendix IWB kydex holster and my Staccato C2 DUO. I’ve carried multiple guns this way, but the 2011 also offers a mechanical safety for extra precaution.

I have an appendix carry holster on the way. I look forward to training with it.

Short story: had a guy here locally who forgot proper gun carry rules and jammed his pistol down the front of his pants after commiting a robbery and almost changed his gender. It went off and made a mess of his junk. The police found him by the blood trail he left. It can be done but it must be done correctly. Always use a holster. Bare carry in any position can have very bad consequences. Guys who have tried shooting off their asses can attest to this. I personally carry on my right hip because I tried appendix and my body doesn't like it especially if I try to sit down. I always use a holster.

Appendix carry is only doable for those of us that are extremely slim and trim. For those of us who have accrued a few ounces in our old age, it’s nigh on impossible.

@TrueOpinion99

Жыл бұрын

No it's not, you just need to adjust your setup.

Appendix carry just isn't for me. I have always carried strong side and I use the same model holster for all my carry firearms. I like my firearms to always be in the same place on my hip. Less to worry about.

My muffin top prevents me from appendix carry.

I don’t like appendix carry, but that’s just because I find it uncomfortable and more prone to printing compared to strong side IWB. For reference I’m built like beanpole Caleb and carry a CZ PCR.

@TrueOpinion99

Жыл бұрын

You need a better setup.

Appendix carry is like owning a tiger if it goes wrong it’s really going to go wrong

AIWB helps me print less and have a quicker draw. I used to pocket carry, but draw to shot was at a glacial speed. Like a couple of other folks here I used a CZ PCR.

Only issues I have had with appendix carry is bending over. I carry at 5 o clock position with a hybrid kydex alien gear holster. I find it much more comfortable in the car seat and bending is no issue

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

The key when carrying appendix is to hinge at the hip instead of the waist. You wanna bend forward with a flat back and get a nice hamstring stretch instead of just rounding your lower back. And you get the benefit of less lumbar stress.

@JJ_SDWR

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@@theKashConnoisseur also you learn to incorporate the legs more, do a half squat and you don't have to bend nearly as much

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

@@JJ_SDWR facts, and using your legs to do the work instead of your back is even safer.

AIWB can be done safely. The consequences if not done perfectly are rather more significant than strong-side OWB or IWB.

Good video I carry both ways it depends on what my cover is and I carry a sig 365XL

I agree with you on all points regarding appendix carry. Personally it is not for me. The point you make about quality holster and quality guns is a good one!

I carry my Taurus PT 945 or my Glock 17 in front or back depending on what I am wearing that day, the key is training and making sure your holster has a good trigger guard, I've been doing both for over 15 years

@onpsxmember

Жыл бұрын

If you got it at 6 o'clock and you fall on it on somewhat solid ground you might get a better parking spot.

@johnnydhillon70

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@@onpsxmember I carry it at 4 o'clock but in a left handed position on my right side, it seems to work for me and be at the most comfortable, plus being 6ft6 it's easy to hide

I've had my appendix removed, so I'm more inclined to be more concerned! Years ago I bought a PD trade-in Glock 27. Bought a leather app-carry holster (FLA gov brand) and still use it carrying an MP now.

You guys are full of knowledge quotable sayings today ain't ya. Good job gentlemen.

I've been appendix carrying for 9 months and one in the chamber. 0 issue. Now when I'm working outside at my house or carrying in my house I carry strong side

A better alternative to Appendix carry is pocket carry with a Robert Mika handmade pocket holster. I've done both, and while I sometimes still do Appendix, I really think it fails when you have to get in your car. Isn't that when most of us want to concealed carry? When we're going somewhere? Pocket carry can accommodate everything from Sig 365 down to NAA .22 LR. Personally I think Ruger LCP .380, or Beretta .32 Tomcat, or S&W snubbie .38 works best. Bigger? Then it's time for 3 o'clock leather DeSantis holster.

@theKashConnoisseur

Жыл бұрын

Hard to pocket carry a full sized gun with a light attached and a spare mag. Also it takes away a pocket I would otherwise be using for my other EDC stuff! 😀 I found that getting the right combo of gun belt, holster, concealment wing, and foam wedge has made appendix carrying a complete non issue for me. I can get in and out of the car, I can go on a road trip, I can run around, squat down, pick stuff up off the ground, all good. And best of all, I can completely conceal a gun with a 5 inch barrel, 17+1 capacity, a weapon light, and a spare mag all in the one holster.

My biggest issue with appendix carry is that I have a bit of a belly. I'm gonna work on that once my knee is addressed. It is an excellent location, but not for me at the moment.

I have Appendix carried for years: 5 shot Ruger LCR .357 mag.

I appendix carry every day. My 365 or a kimber micro 9 lately. The kimbers just so comfortable with a leather holster.

It is insane that people in the US sometimes carry without holster...yes, the right to carry for all, but do it smart. Edit: Picked up my package from Brownells today with magpull stock and parts for my M700 - looking forward to assembling this!

@marcusborderlands6177

Жыл бұрын

@Shinshocks still not smart

@artmallory970

Жыл бұрын

Many still sleep with blood relatives, so not that surprising...

@DavidLLambertmobile

Жыл бұрын

ALWAYS use a well made, secure holster. It's not 1974 or 1986. 😐 I remember years ago, cops & detectives would wrap rubber bands around J or K frame DA revolver grips then tuck them in belts. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@DavidLLambertmobile

Жыл бұрын

@@christoalix Years ago, as a kid I saw a news story of a urban PD plain clothes officer who went to draw his DA revolver. DA-SA spur type. His gun began to snag in his winter jacket & he was nearly killed by a armed felon. I used spurless DA only revolvers, semi auto striker type guns for years. Accidents or errors can occur.

I'm "one of those guys that's been doing it for years with no problem". But my system may be a little different than Caleb's; l have a bit of belly fat - just a bit - and l use a soft suede hoster with a VERY strong stainless steel belt clip and a S&W .38 snubby. My bit of belly keeps the gun firmly planted at all times and being a revolver it will ALWAYS shoot, NEVER jam, and doesn't care what ammo l feed it. But to keep things safe in the boiler room, the ONLY way l re-holster is by first removing the holster, then placing the gun in the holster, and then clipping them back inside the waistband together. NO WAY am l putting a loaded gun into a holster that is pointed right at the googlies without the trigger being covered!

Appendix carry for a revolver is probably the most perfect combination. There is no better area or gun for appendix carry.

When holstering, I always point the nozzle of my gun at my head. No, no, no the other head.

What puzzles me are the people who advocate for appendix carry but are against shoulder holsters. I'm an OWB man, myself.

Too uncomfortable. Everything inside the waistband hurts after a couple hours. Happens after a life time of wrenching. Belt carry or pocket carry is the only way that I can carry all day.

One rule I think it a good one is to never reholster with the holster on. You take the holster off, holster the gun and then reinstall the holster on your person. Most accidents seem to happen while people are reholstering (when a cloth/something gets into the trigger guard unnoticed). If you take the holster off, your clothing Can't get into is... and you can SEE that there's nothing there to snag your trigger. I think most modern holsters make this more feasible, because they can be taken off and put back on in just a couple seconds. It's really not much difficult or time consuming than doing it the "old fashioned way". ...I started typing this before 7:37 of course... but I think definitely think he's right (obviously).

@elektro3000

Жыл бұрын

Alternately, any pistol with an exposed hammer can be controlled while reholstering. Even if something catches the trigger, the pistol can't fire if you have your thumb blocking the hammer.

@deucedeuce1572

Жыл бұрын

@@elektro3000 Yeah, I like the "Glock Gadget" or "Striker Control Device", because you can push your thumb against it and stop the trigger from being pulled. I have seen people fire on accident, because their thumb slipped out form under the hammer. There was a guntuber that had a "negligent discharge" because his thumb slipped out. People were attacking him for it, but it wasn't as big a deal as people made it. He had his gun pointed down range when he did it. (I think it was a Series 70 1911 that has no firing pin block).

As someone who sits in a office for a living appendix carry is just not a comfortable as strong side. That is the only reason why I strong side.

I tried appendix carrying, but my gun jumped out of its holster and pistol whipped me in the face repeatedly. I can't trust it, so I carry at 4 now