Thank you all for watching! This one was fun to make, and apologies for glossing over Dogger Bank but I really did not have the time for a 35 minute long video with my classes getting so busy as another semester comes to an end. Which also coincides with the later start time for the premiere. Edit: sorry about the audio glitches.

@AnchoredPast

8 ай бұрын

You are perfectly fine. Seydlitz didn't play much of a role during the Battle of Dogger Bank. Yes she was present and did take massive damage, but her over all part taking in the Battle wasn't much. Not in comparison to that of the Armored Cruiser Blücher. Please keep it up man, and don't worry about skipping over something that she barely played a part in. As for the Audio Glitchs. Well I'm used to my audio being funky so it is what it is.

A remarkable story of a remarkable ship. Seydlitz was always my favorite battlecruiser.

Thank you for sharing your research, illustration, narration, and editing. I very much appreciate the work you put into all your videos. I always grin when I see you have added something new to your channel. _SMS Seydlitz_ has long had one of my favorite service histories. Thank you for doing her justice.

I know he was sober during Jutland, but the thought of the helmsman who was busted for drunkenness on duty before being absolutely smashed through this battle brings me some level of humor

Another good episode. Thanks for posting!

Wow thanks for this, what an incredible part of Naval History.

many thanks!

Cool video! I like how you note the sources you are reading from so clearly.

The German "Warspite"

My favorite ship of all time.

I agree ¹00 present he doesn't get enough credit for what he does I tell my friend's and family about how awesome his channel is to spread the word to get him more viewers he deserves it for all his hard work he has stepped it up from everyone else with his presentation

Nice job!

one of my favorite ships.

Thank you 👍

I love the color photos, albeit they are probably not original. Your German pronunciation is getting better and better; only the e in Moltke is overly stressed. It should be short, nearly like a schwa. Scheer has that vowel you used for Moltke. :)

@ImportantNavalHistory

8 ай бұрын

Oh! Thanks Ray I appreciate your comments they really help and I actually go back and read some of them before recording.

@RayyMusik

8 ай бұрын

@@ImportantNavalHistory I feel honored. How good that you‘ll never hear me butchering English words. :D

An important point that you haven't brought out is the reason why RN capital warships sub division was, in general, inferior to German capital ships. The RN ships had to cover a good proportion of the globe - unlike the German vessels which could concentrate on the North Sea. The endurance issue meant that RN ships had to carry much more fuel. The crews of the German ships did not live onboard. So there's the reason why things were not as simple as you might think.

@johnfisher9692

8 ай бұрын

Well said. German ships had many advantages built in that casual readers overlook or deliberately ignore. They didn't even have water distillation systems on board. IMO SMS Seydlitz was NOT a battlecruiser. Her designed purpose was fleet scout and to supplement the battle fleet so she was for more a Light Fast Battleship that sacrificed firepower for speed with only a light reduction of armour compared to a full on Battleship. It's also interesting to note that while she was a near wreck after Jutland and grounded on the ocean floor and had to be salvaged, counts as sunk in my book. HMS Lion was hit by very nearly as many heavy AP shells with functioned properly (while the British ones had defective fuses) yet apart from the loss of Q turret was still combat capable and ready to have another go at the fleeing Germans. As you said "things were not as simple as you might think".

@carstenlaun1026

8 ай бұрын

This is the typical secondary source bullshit as ever! Seydlitz carried 3600ts of coal and had an endurance between 4000 to 5000 nautical miles depending of the speed between 10 to 14kn. Also von der Tann and Moltke did long range travels. Von der Tann sailed straight to Brasil und then Argentina and Moltke cruised to the USA und Caribbean. Only because the german crews didn't live at Wilhelmhaven permanentley onboard didn't mean the german ships had no large and good crew quarters and kitchens to provide the crew with food. The predecessor of the large german cruisers/Battlecruiser like Scharnhorst and Gneisenau as armoured cruiser wer able to cross the pacific and win a battle after month on sea! Oh and Beatty, with a numerical superiority of 2:1 and a much greater superiority in terms of fire power, lost 2 ships at the Run to the South against the "ugly german battlecruisers". There were two major booms.

@carstenlaun1026

8 ай бұрын

@@johnfisher9692 ROFL! A ship is sunk when it is on the bottom of the ocean not when it's back in service and battleline 3 Month after a major battle. Seydlitz managed on it's speed trials 28,1kn and it's firepower managed to beat any british Battlecruiser of it's timeline. It's not the end of the world to admit that the german battlecruisers were better thought out than the british ones at this timeline.

@johnfisher9692

8 ай бұрын

@@carstenlaun1026 The famous (infamous) German BS excuse making. In your own words "A ship is sunk when it is on the bottom of the ocean" Seydlitz DID hit the ocean floor due to progressive flooding caused by combat damage, therefore by your own criteria is SUNK!!! but later salvaged. You are using a very big double standard there. And the speed? Well German ship trials were run with specially selected coal and stoker crews and in 'light' condition and calm seas. In regular service their speed was much less. It's not the end of the world to admit that the German battlecruisers were in fact light fast Battleships as their purpose was NOT to hunt commerce raiding cruisers but supplement the battle fleet, a very different design criteria. And Lion took only 5 less hits at Jutland than Seydlitz and those shells functioned as designed but Lion was still combat effective and looking for a fight the next day while the German ships were hiding in Harbor.

@flash-dk1cc

8 ай бұрын

@@carstenlaun1026ah yes , German ships are not sunk . They are scuttled lmao Motto of the German navy , if in doubt , scuttle

17:16 when they fought a magazine like that, what happens to the men? Are the hatches locked down and they can't get out or can they get up through hatches and ladders?

@mbryson2899

8 ай бұрын

In some ships they might access scuttles. In others they are pretty much doomed. In any case, if charges are hit it's anyone's guess as to whether they have a chance. Look up the _USS Boise_ at Cape Esperance for a harrowing account of the results of a magazine hit. The manners of demise were quite varied and very situational. Nothing about combat is "safe" or "safer." It's kismet all around.

sidebar: Nicholas Jellicoe is, according to the US Naval Institute, the grandson of Adm John Jellicoe.

@ImportantNavalHistory

8 ай бұрын

Yep! His book that I referenced is trying to provide a somewhat balanced narrative of the battle but if you read through the lines you can see the narrative he is trying to push regarding his Grandfather.

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The British earlier BC's were not designed to go toe to toe with their German counterparts. The 13.5" gunned ships were. If the Brits had not been lax in their safety measures the Queen Mary may have had a different fate. Whereas the Sedlytz was designed to take damage and be in a battle line against anything British built up to the 13.5" super dreadnought. She was not meant to go against the QE's or the Revenges. They would have made short work of her one on one. This excellent deck and below construction was also witnessed in Ww2 with Bismark and Sharnhorst. They built quality for sure. Great video of a proud ship. Too bad the Repulse class and Hood were not in that battle line would have been a different outcome likely.

@carstenlaun1026

8 ай бұрын

That's why the majority of the hits on Warspite which forced her to break off the battle at or after the Run to the south came from SMS Moltke the "little undergunned german battlecruiser". By the way SMS Moltke was the best shooting ship at Jutland with ~ 10% hit performance through the whole battle, even above 15000m.

@RossEphgrave

8 ай бұрын

@@carstenlaun1026 actually the Warspites steering gear had an issue and she circled through a large portion of the German battle line and everyone had a crack at her. Likely a lesser ship would have been sunk.

@michaelpielorz9283

8 ай бұрын

Oh please not that "unsafe handling myth"Mr Drachinifel will explain why this myth had to be created, insulting thousands of brave sailors as suicidal idiots.for saving Mr Chu..... career

@michaelpielorz9283

8 ай бұрын

Again that"unsafe ammubition handling" myth.this myth was created to save Churchill`s career by insulting thousands of brav sailors as suicidal idiots.I`m sure Mr Drachinifel will tell you the entire story in his Doggerbank video

@AndreasKonig-qq7yk

Ай бұрын

At the ranges fought in the beginning, the Repulses would have stood no chance! At that time their armor was outright ludicrous. Hood on the other hand would have been veeeeery useful.

What about SMS Goeben ? 🤔

@ImportantNavalHistory

8 ай бұрын

I did a series on her a year ago now. Here’s a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f4qZ2auAp5ncmKg.htmlsi=e5wpml19E_B1_x85

@bilirkisi7819

8 ай бұрын

@@ImportantNavalHistory Thank you my friend.

Difficult to follow as the narrator is clearly reading from a script, in a rather toneless voice

@ImportantNavalHistory

20 күн бұрын

Yep! People do tend to read from scripts, and since I’m not a professional, I definitely struggle. Although, this is an older video and I’d like to think I’ve improved since then. I’d rather use my own voice then use some terrible Ai or text to speech voice.