Smallest & Most Durable USB Format

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  • @KeonsLab
    @KeonsLab2 ай бұрын

    Anyone Interested in a full video going over these? Like comparing their performance and thermals to brand name USB drives, figuring out what the little gold pads are connected to, etc.? I really wanna make a video on these but idk if anyone would watch it EDIT: Ok I’ll start working on making the video! 😊

  • @Horshorshorshors

    @Horshorshorshors

    2 ай бұрын

    I'd definitely watch it

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Horshorshorshors awesome!

  • @saintmalachy1924

    @saintmalachy1924

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. I would watch it

  • @MrJbipes

    @MrJbipes

    2 ай бұрын

    yes please

  • @memerindisguise

    @memerindisguise

    2 ай бұрын

    YES PLEASE

  • @manfredrichtoften8848
    @manfredrichtoften88482 ай бұрын

    Finally, floppy disk 2.0

  • @kreuner11

    @kreuner11

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean TOSHIBA made these for a decade, I have many USB drives that when fallen apart have that one integrated monolith

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    omg it kinda does look like a floppy the way the chip fits almost entirely into the port! Imagine time travelling back to the mid 90s with one of these 😂 “Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the Rigid Disk”

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    Yup! That’s why I said they’re hidden in plain sight. I do wonder how the chips preassembled into a USB stick differ from the chips sold in their “raw” form like the ones I showed. They’d have to be Toshiba, Sandisk, etc branded right?

  • @Allen-R

    @Allen-R

    2 ай бұрын

    💀

  • @Leekodot15

    @Leekodot15

    2 ай бұрын

    For ergonomics (and skeumorphism) though (and if they haven't already) they should still add the port shell and an extrusion. Think... like a wireless mouse's USB, or a bluetooth/wifi dongle.

  • @charmio
    @charmio2 ай бұрын

    They're also called "monolithic drives" and they're a bastard to retrieve data from when damaged.

  • @EnnayXIX

    @EnnayXIX

    2 ай бұрын

    That is arguably one of the greatest benefits

  • @exscape

    @exscape

    2 ай бұрын

    @@EnnayXIX How is that a benefit? If it works, anyone can read the data. If it doesn't, not even the owner can. If you want data to be unreadable to others, just encrypt it.

  • @thombakker2835

    @thombakker2835

    2 ай бұрын

    Usb drives are not supposed to be used as harddrives they are for short term data that should always be backed up somewhere else

  • @exscape

    @exscape

    2 ай бұрын

    @@thombakker2835 As should hard drives and SSDs! And all other forms of storage.

  • @parkman29

    @parkman29

    2 ай бұрын

    Yep mine got damaged

  • @satibel
    @satibel2 ай бұрын

    it's basically a micro sd card, but with an usb controller and pinout

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    I see you mean, but they’re not microSD cards because there’s no SD Host controller, just flash memory and a USB controller. The same way an SD card is flash memory with an SD controller. I wish there was a camera that used these instead of microSD cards, since microSDs are really fragile

  • @fjl05

    @fjl05

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KeonsLab They're only fragile if you really man handle them. Only once did I break one and that was on a raspberry pi 4 because the SD card sticks out enough where if you put pressure on it from one of its flat sides, it will snap in two. But really, raspberry pi's are the only sd card slots where it sticks out this much where their fragility is something to worry about. otherwise I think they are plenty strong the way they are. Its not easy to break them in half otherwise.

  • @Nerthos

    @Nerthos

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@fjl05Plus a lot of devices that use micro sd now have trays to hold them in.

  • @commander3494

    @commander3494

    2 ай бұрын

    @@fjl05 breaking them in half is not at all the issue. They just break internally really easily, for example my mom once bought one for her phone, dropped it from ~1m height while unpackaging and after a week or so of usage it stopped working properly

  • @fjl05

    @fjl05

    2 ай бұрын

    @@commander3494 what? dropping it wouldn't cause it to break over time. These things dont have moving parts or even parts that can break off inside. You're thinking of the old microdrives that where basically tiny versions of the spinning disk drive in a compact package. Those still had moving parts that made them susceptible to breaking when dropped or mishandled. USB drive, SD cards or solid state drives dont have this problem. Im 101% certain your mom's SD card went bad because it was just a badly produced SD card that was bound to fail regardless. I've had the same thing happen with SD cards. They're perfectly fine for a month or so then just die. And I never dropped them. They where just a bad batch.

  • @NainKaigo
    @NainKaigo2 ай бұрын

    The biggest issue I've had with these is losing them lol. So. Small.

  • @nickj7332

    @nickj7332

    2 ай бұрын

    I remember my first one. It felt like a ton of storage at the time. But the whole thing was smaller than a stick of gum. It has a little cord loop to not lose it... Easily the biggest part was the loop of fabric.

  • @HoldYourSeahorses

    @HoldYourSeahorses

    2 ай бұрын

    They tend to overheat and die in my experience.

  • @udhi_gn3893

    @udhi_gn3893

    2 ай бұрын

    If you ever handled a bunch of micro SD cards or guitar picks before, you know the drill

  • @billytaj7708

    @billytaj7708

    2 ай бұрын

    That's what she said

  • @sonyshakex70dlover90

    @sonyshakex70dlover90

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@billytaj7708to you only

  • @mircohanisch9210
    @mircohanisch92102 ай бұрын

    This would be the best Keylogger usb ever bcs u would not even see it on first sight

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    I also think it would be a cool plot point of a movie where someone has to either sneak out data or make it hidden like Snowden or Breaking Bad, where they’d epoxy these overtop of their ram chips or other inconspicuous motherboard chips which look very similar… Then to recover the data they’d scrape off the glue to expose the contacts! That would be so awesome!! (Hopefully it’s not too cliche lol) (P.S: I’m not saying keylogging is good, I’m just saying these have so many out of the box use cases!)

  • @UmiZoomR

    @UmiZoomR

    2 ай бұрын

    Or just software

  • @IvanOoze1990

    @IvanOoze1990

    2 ай бұрын

    What kind of creepy shit is OP up to?

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    😂 haha nothing lol. I was just watching a documentary on North Korea and how visitors can’t bring in flash drives or something which is when I thought of this. Wouldn’t it be cool though? Like a Liam Neeson type montage of him glueing chips onto circuit boards in a dimly lit room

  • @ARockRaider

    @ARockRaider

    2 ай бұрын

    having seen a few hacker related viedos in passing, my first thought went stright to hiding this in a charging cable or something....

  • @xaenon
    @xaenon2 ай бұрын

    I started playing with computers in the 1980s. Words like 'gigabyte' were used mostly as theoreticals, as in the total amount of information stored in computer systems GLOBALLY. A 40 megabyte hard drive cost as much as good used car, and you often needed to replace the computer's power supply to handle the additional current needed to run one. I just bought five 64-gigabyte flash drives from Micro Center and spent only about $30. All five TOGETHER can fit in a cigarette pack. The mind reels.

  • @HEX-qw7qp

    @HEX-qw7qp

    2 ай бұрын

    1 terabyte microSD cards already as 3 years are available

  • @variancewithin

    @variancewithin

    Ай бұрын

    They got 512gb USB sticks now too

  • @Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212

    @Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212

    Ай бұрын

    tera bytes look so futurstic cant wait for it gbs are extremely expendable nowadays

  • @johnshedIetsky

    @johnshedIetsky

    Ай бұрын

    @@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212nah i got a 1tb nvme drive for my pc for about 35 bucks

  • @NeutralOrNotTooBadStuff

    @NeutralOrNotTooBadStuff

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Icouldntcomeupwithaname1212 Eh depends on one's needs. Some people have lots of stuff to store going into the dozens or hundreds of gigs. Others have only a few gigs to store, and those help keep the lower storage USB flash drives alive

  • @GTAmaniac1
    @GTAmaniac12 ай бұрын

    Tbh normal PCB based USB sticks are quite waterproof as well. My main stick has been theough the washing machine twice and it still works perfectly fine

  • @moneybilla

    @moneybilla

    2 ай бұрын

    Any device is fine if it gets wet, it's when it's plugged in while it's wet is when shit gets bad

  • @swecreations

    @swecreations

    2 ай бұрын

    @@moneybillaThat is true, to an extent at least. Mineral deposits from the water may still damage it if they're left after it's dried, so to be 100% safe you should also make sure to clean it completely from any contaminants before turning it on again.

  • @user-ce7ic1ze2u

    @user-ce7ic1ze2u

    2 ай бұрын

    I’ve “accidentally” washed a Sandisk usb drive multiple times, still works today

  • @urnoob5528

    @urnoob5528

    Ай бұрын

    @@swecreations not water soap water

  • @BeesKneesBenjamin
    @BeesKneesBenjamin2 ай бұрын

    Printed Circuit Board boards

  • @soulsbreaker

    @soulsbreaker

    2 ай бұрын

    ATM machine phenomenon

  • @AdamKueflef

    @AdamKueflef

    2 ай бұрын

    I was gonna say the same thing

  • @zafrylaiman8695

    @zafrylaiman8695

    2 ай бұрын

    smh my head

  • @phyotyla

    @phyotyla

    2 ай бұрын

    @@zafrylaiman8695 At least one youtuber often says "For your FYI"

  • @B121AN1

    @B121AN1

    2 ай бұрын

    Chai Tea

  • @nathanwest2304
    @nathanwest23042 ай бұрын

    I've hade one of these nano style USP sticks and ended up losing it in a parking lot, because there where some important files on it I went back the next day to try to look for it. some cars drove over it and cracked the plastic and mangled the metal of the USB plug, but the entire stick was basically this sealed piece of plastic that ended up falling out of the metal housing after cars driving over it in the rain, I plugged it in to my computer to find it working just fine, that was in 2016 and I still use it today

  • @acf2802
    @acf28022 ай бұрын

    "usb disk in packaging" turns up zero search results, so either that's not what this is called, or you are the only person who know about it.

  • @acf2802

    @acf2802

    2 ай бұрын

    This is likely called system in package.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    Try “UDP USB” in google, it’s the only term that works for me since the only info on them is from various Chinese vendor sites, and they use “UDP USB” for their SEO.

  • @TheCustomFHD

    @TheCustomFHD

    2 ай бұрын

    Sandisk Sells some of them. They are the ones with no cap, and the transparent black plastic swinged hoop at the end.

  • @dosluke

    @dosluke

    2 ай бұрын

    "Slim mini nano micro usb drive" brings a couple results on amazon

  • @debraerts9171

    @debraerts9171

    2 ай бұрын

    Ive had these at home for the better part of 8 years, its quite literally my least favorite usb drive. That are slow and get much more easily damaged then normal usb drives with things like scratches. Maybe the tech has gotten better but the old ones are ass, i only use them to print with my printer or 3d printer because I wouldnt ever put valuable data on it.​@@KeonsLab

  • @Lampe2020
    @Lampe20202 ай бұрын

    I once had a 64GB one of these small thingies. Although it didn't break at the solder points, I one day found it to get extremely hot extremely quickly (from room temperature to smellingly hot in half a minute) and not work anymore. When I removed the plastic around it it had a crack through the chip and the only time it got recognized at all by my computer after that was as a non-readable ~0.5KB USB drive. I now have another one of those in the 128GB version which still works great. On USB drives that are the larger form factor they'd most likely only have sustained damage to the USB header soldering points, which could be replaced or in the worst case you could unsolder the flash chip from the PCB to recover the data.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    Hopefully everything was backed up! Desoldering the chip for data recovery is also a good point. Also, that’s the first time I’ve seen the word “smellingly” lol, does it mean it got so hot that you could smell the plastic?

  • @Lampe2020

    @Lampe2020

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KeonsLab It honestly smelled almost exactly like hot metal but interestingly the plastic didn't deform from the heat.

  • @supersimon126
    @supersimon1262 ай бұрын

    PCB boards? Ah yes. The printed circuit board board.

  • @white.lodge.dale.cooper

    @white.lodge.dale.cooper

    2 ай бұрын

    Oooh I want one. Lemme grab some crash from the ATM machine.

  • @ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275

    @ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275

    2 ай бұрын

    Blame RAS Syndrome

  • @westernllamas

    @westernllamas

    2 ай бұрын

    Man I love chai tea

  • @Erribell

    @Erribell

    2 ай бұрын

    Reddit.

  • @netherialdreyrimani

    @netherialdreyrimani

    2 ай бұрын

    smh my head

  • @MangoTangoFox
    @MangoTangoFox2 ай бұрын

    This is also how a lot of Nintendo Switch games are. No PCB, no solder, just the chip with the contacts directly on it.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    16 күн бұрын

    Some others mentioned that too, so I looked up a picture of a Switch cartridge and you’re right, they’re using basically the same concept just with a couple extra pins for console-related stuff.

  • @esotericbear9829
    @esotericbear98292 ай бұрын

    Too bad the NAN flash memory used for USB drives tends to be the literal bottom binned flash.

  • @alexhajnal107

    @alexhajnal107

    2 ай бұрын

    Not A Number? Oh, you mean NAND.

  • @WhyOhWhy123
    @WhyOhWhy1232 ай бұрын

    I got one for a birthday present several years ago. I think it was Verbatim or Sandisk. It was the size a standard sim card (the original size SIM card, not the nano/micro), maybe just over 1cm x 1.5cm? It was incredible. I had it attached to a lanyard but I still ended up losing it, cos it was so small and discrete.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah they are quite easy to lose, it’s why I don’t like microSD cards. But hopefully there wasn’t anything important on the one you lost!

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire2 ай бұрын

    It looks like a Cyberpunk data shard, I can see Elongated Muskrat installing a 3-slot reader in some guy's neck.

  • @pigletshut

    @pigletshut

    2 ай бұрын

    Or Master Chief with two slots, one in his temple on each side, one holds Cortana, one holds Captain Keyes' implant for the self destruct code.

  • @Mitsou44
    @Mitsou442 ай бұрын

    But it has less surface to dissipate heat.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    True, but there’s also tons of usb sticks that just have a thick plastic shell around the chip, It’s why I really like the metal types like those Kingston drives. These don’t get very hot though since they do make direct contact with the metal walls of the USB port.

  • @grahamgray7100

    @grahamgray7100

    2 ай бұрын

    Was exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. I have tried some San disk ones that are very small and they get too hot and shut down in the middle of copying files. After they cool off you can get them back on with removal and reinsertion. But if you can't slow the transfer speed then it happens over and over. Rendering the device useless for its intended purpose

  • @BL-yj2wp

    @BL-yj2wp

    2 ай бұрын

    They're typically slow drives for that reason. Wether or not that matter really depends on the application.

  • @jamescollins6085

    @jamescollins6085

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@KeonsLabI've opened so many of the metal USB drives and I'm always disappointed to see that they don't bother to thermally couple the controller to the metal shell. This is the case in even some of the more premium ones.

  • @floydlooney6837

    @floydlooney6837

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@KeonsLaba tiny fan and vents would be nice

  • @TraperT
    @TraperT2 ай бұрын

    Now just create BadUSB in this package to make it,'s eaven hareder to spot

  • @edelzocker8169

    @edelzocker8169

    2 ай бұрын

    My phone is a Bad-USB

  • @peepopalaber

    @peepopalaber

    2 ай бұрын

    With no use. And you need a Sizable Cap for that. There are none in that formfactor.

  • @elmariachi5133

    @elmariachi5133

    2 ай бұрын

    @@peepopalaber Bad-USB (OG Rubberducky) is not USB-Killer.

  • @heinrichdertote149
    @heinrichdertote1492 ай бұрын

    Talks about literally only a pcb. "With no PCB"

  • @mars5train601

    @mars5train601

    2 ай бұрын

    That 'pcb' is a single chip, with the USB connector embedded into the pads. It's completely integrated

  • @harrison00xXx

    @harrison00xXx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mars5train601sounds either slow, unreliable, hot or multiple things of that…

  • @DrakeTain

    @DrakeTain

    2 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@harrison00xXxyou’re aware it’s a usb 3.1 storage device? It’s going to be fast, heat is going to be fairly irrelevant, and it’s still the same thing you’re used to, just all in one. I can’t understand why you’d think it’s any of these.

  • @harrison00xXx

    @harrison00xXx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DrakeTain You have never used fast and small SanDisk products of the past few years with in fact USB 3.0 and 3.1. And yes, sadly heat it a problem with those small and tiny USB sticks. In fact even my Sandisk Extreme Pro 3.0 to 3.2 models get very hot even when not reading or writing at all, Give them sustained 200MB/s write or more and they get SUPER HOT. One of the 3.0 models died already (it was abused hard to be honest) and the 3.1 and 3.2 models i even cool additionally with a USB fan when writing a lot of data but they are at least reliable. Keep in mind those have a nice aluminium case and somewhat reasonable good heat dissipation.

  • @harrison00xXx

    @harrison00xXx

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DrakeTain Also, are you aware about the fact that USB-C is the new standard and USB-A will soon "die"? As nice those tiny usb sticks are, there is no way around going to a dedicated connector part again unless 512GB+ NAND chips get with a factor of like 1:10 smaller than this "USB Stick".

  • @Mr_nah
    @Mr_nah2 ай бұрын

    The only issue is they are overheating

  • @texasblaze1016
    @texasblaze10162 ай бұрын

    Whats the name of these, where do you find them, etc etc...?

  • @henrikwillamo6287

    @henrikwillamo6287

    2 ай бұрын

    UDP drive. youll also find them if you google chip usb

  • @texasblaze1016

    @texasblaze1016

    2 ай бұрын

    @henrikwillamo6287 thank you, finally an answer that makes sense!

  • @logik969

    @logik969

    2 ай бұрын

    Kingston used to have a metal case USB that was exactly this. Model DTSE9 from what google shows. After about a year the chip broke and all data was unrecoverable.

  • @Naitrio

    @Naitrio

    2 ай бұрын

    @@logik969 Kingston has fallen off for sure, I've had a usb drive and an ssd fail from them. My friend also had an ssd fail from them.

  • @ducpaii
    @ducpaiiАй бұрын

    those tiny ones were used in all official windows 10 install usb's, i pulled mine apart and they are TINY

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    Ай бұрын

    I remember when windows 10 was still new, and since I had built my PC I had to get an installation disk at a store. They had the option for either the Windows 10 USB or just the serial key with a DVD, I chose the second one since I had already made a bootable USB for it, but I actually still have the DVD that came with it! Do you know how much capacity the Windows 10 USB has on it? I’m hoping it’s not just 8GB or something

  • @theamaturepro
    @theamatureproАй бұрын

    This is insane. I remember being proud as heck when I was 14 for saving up and buying an 8GB iPod. When the 64GB came out, it was unbelievable they could fit it in those bricks we all wanted. It's amazing how far we've advanced, I can't begin to imagine what we'll have in 15 years

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah me too, personally I think we’re in the ‘goldilocks zone’ of tech. I honestly wouldn’t mind if tech advancements slowed down a little but on the other hand it really is fun to imagine what could exist in the next few decades

  • @ArmadusMalaysia
    @ArmadusMalaysia2 ай бұрын

    The USB Disk in Package? The USB Distant Package? The USB This is Bagage?

  • @VVVutov

    @VVVutov

    2 ай бұрын

    Same here bro. Google knows nothing about any of those.

  • @devinhead43

    @devinhead43

    2 ай бұрын

    He's just wrong, it's a UDP drive which is short for USB Drive-in Package.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m thinking there may be multiple names for them. Searching “UDP USB” in google works, but so does “monolithic USB” But every article I’ve found so far calls them a USB disk in package (UDP USB).

  • @ArmadusMalaysia

    @ArmadusMalaysia

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KeonsLab thanks for the clarification bro.

  • @TheSergio7514
    @TheSergio75142 ай бұрын

    I cannot find them anywhere online, whats the model name?

  • @ishandiptagarai852

    @ishandiptagarai852

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't know if they are available in your country.. but sandisk cruzer blade USB 2.0 version is like this..i know because I opened one.. but i don't like this style as they are really slow

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    They’re usually sold under the name “UDP USB” the small ones are called “Short UDP”. They’re kinda hard to find but I highly recommend the blue USB 3.0 ones since they fit nicely in all usb ports and are pretty fast. The black and gold USB 2.0 chips are too thin to fit properly into any USB ports without some kind of shell I’ll make a video going over this and other stuff about these soon

  • @kreuner11

    @kreuner11

    2 ай бұрын

    Toshiba made a LOT of USB 2.0 ones

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    I wonder if they’d have ‘Toshiba’ etched on the back, since the USB2.0 ones I got have codes that turn up no results when searching them up

  • @kreuner11

    @kreuner11

    2 ай бұрын

    @@KeonsLab yeah mine do, but they also came up with the code so you might have gotten a different brand. The Toshiba ones are longer with I'd say a 1:2 aspect ratio

  • @michal_king478
    @michal_king4782 ай бұрын

    its when you calculate how many books it can fit, thats when stuff like this is absolutely insane. We are so used to throwing around gigabytes and terabytes we forget just how much raw data that is

  • @reddcube
    @reddcube2 ай бұрын

    I love how small they are. I have a 128GB version for my “personal” files.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    I must ask… what exactly are these… “personal” files that you have 128GB of 😂 🧐🧐

  • @deniskhafizov6827
    @deniskhafizov6827Ай бұрын

    Remember the times, when the flash drives had a write protection switch?

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    AND I WISH THEY STILL DID!!! 😡

  • @jc9233
    @jc923319 күн бұрын

    Have had one that broke on my keys for years. It's just the metal end with the chip encorperated inside. The plastic usb housing was just for looks.

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G2 ай бұрын

    I have seen these, crazy how small they can get!

  • @JJ-fr2ki
    @JJ-fr2kiАй бұрын

    The old ones have been robustly water proof for decades. Many survived through my laundry: wash and dry.

  • @cookinsteve9281
    @cookinsteve9281Ай бұрын

    These are what your company gives you as a “welcome aboard” package and destine you to a cubicle for 40 years.

  • @izzunrazak8771
    @izzunrazak8771Ай бұрын

    this form of memory throttle like crazy, good luck sustaining that usb 3.0 speed

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    29 күн бұрын

    Yeah I do agree on that, it can have some wild ups and downs in transfer speed

  • @Mrdogedog
    @Mrdogedog2 ай бұрын

    Had 2 in high school, they both actually died faster than the older style usb drives which i still use to this day

  • @Impossible_Fishy
    @Impossible_Fishy2 ай бұрын

    I have one of these that broke and I opened it and just thought, why was it so big when the electronics are so small

  • @sudiptodas0001
    @sudiptodas00012 ай бұрын

    I've had one for 10 years, still works unlike the other cheap pendrives

  • @bahamutbbob
    @bahamutbbob2 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the Printed Circuit Board board.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    Omg not again, I just *thought* it might be confusing for some if I said “PC Boards” since for those not familiar with them they might think I was referring to “personal computer boards” (I’m just playing around btw I don’t mind everyone pointing it out)

  • @TiberiusWallace
    @TiberiusWallaceАй бұрын

    See if they folded that down you could have something that fits entirely inside a standard USB port so you could leave it in a laptop socket.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    The smaller UDP “Short” disks (the 3.0 ones) are basically that! When inserted, it looks like a mini ATM card reader (actually kinda cute), with just barely enough sticking out so you can remove it from the port

  • @natking1u1z99
    @natking1u1z997 күн бұрын

    You’ve seen them before and probably didn’t recognize them. For example, the Yubico Yubic key a usb security key used to access your computer.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    6 күн бұрын

    I was actually thinking about those usb password things for some reason yesterday!

  • @element1192
    @element1192Ай бұрын

    if you showed this to somebody in the 90s they'd have a heart attack

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer2 ай бұрын

    Those have been around for ages, it's just recently that the packaging technology got good enough that they could use decent quality storage for them instead of the really crappy stuff. So now you can get that form factor and it'll actually perform at USB 3.0 speeds instead of USB 1.0...

  • @Dan_The_Paper
    @Dan_The_Paper2 ай бұрын

    Yep, they sell these with a high price naked. You can usually find them in a very small thumbdrive. Another name for these is cob flashdrive.

  • @tsukimaru131
    @tsukimaru131Ай бұрын

    Fun fact, they use this exact same form factor on some Nintendo switch game cartridges

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    Same size too? I don’t have a switch but I kinda wanna get some random cartridge for it to open it up and compare them

  • @hiddenhawk13
    @hiddenhawk132 ай бұрын

    The way I woke up and saw my job as a cyber security guy get so much harder. On the Lord's Day no less

  • @ChessIsJustAGame
    @ChessIsJustAGame2 ай бұрын

    I use expensive test equipment from UEI and they distribute SW and manuals on these. The drive is attached to, embedded into a business size plastic card and the chip flips out to be inserted into the USB socket. But it takes up so much space, that I have to remove any other devices to fit.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    The card takes up space? If it’s just for manuals that might actually be a good thing because its less likely to get lost for future use. You could even put it in a wallet or something just to make sure

  • @QuesoCookies
    @QuesoCookiesАй бұрын

    Dude's got the steady hands of shifting sands

  • @chubbysumo2230
    @chubbysumo22302 ай бұрын

    and when it breaks, there is no recovery possible.

  • @goodnaturehealthfoodsnorth2932
    @goodnaturehealthfoodsnorth29322 ай бұрын

    Every one of these small form factors flash drives that I've used died in a much shorter timespan than the regular ones. The controller and the flash being in a single package causes poor heat dissipation. And as flash storage can be wiped with heat, the data on them gets corrupted a lot more often because the heat of the controller is very close to the flash. I'd also assume data recovery from the small form factor ones is a lot harder since it's all in one chip.

  • @hatsunemiku838
    @hatsunemiku83815 күн бұрын

    I used to buy odd usb drives(plastic animals, wood, ect) to take these out.

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    14 күн бұрын

    That’s cool, so you’d get them for the sole purpose of taking out the little chip? Kinda reminds me of myself when I was smaller 😁

  • @hatsunemiku838

    @hatsunemiku838

    14 күн бұрын

    @@KeonsLab yes! I love how small they are. I used them for my router as Nas storage. If you don't mind me asking, where can I purchase usb 3.1 minis?

  • @Qtechbh
    @Qtechbh2 ай бұрын

    Mine is over 10 years old. The biggest issue I have with it (outside being ridiculously slow and small capacity) is that, the way they packaged it with a folding cover - it gets really difficult to plug in if you are not directly looking at the port. Not only it folds all the time and you have to support it with half your fingers, but you could plug it in the wrong way or in the wrong type of port (i.e. hdmi). Had to get an usb extension adapter just to avoid the frustration all the time. Turns out, packaging matters alot when it comes to handling convenience. Still working through, but I rarely use it as usb-c ones are now my favourites.

  • @codya30
    @codya302 ай бұрын

    That style was the first usb drive I ever owned.

  • @joelgermain1988
    @joelgermain1988Ай бұрын

    these are the best for laptop with low storage. They are slow BUT useful to have around to get 256gb more of storage while never taking it out.

  • @QUADUL8R
    @QUADUL8R2 ай бұрын

    When an SD card and a USB flash drive have a baby:

  • @dracopug
    @dracopug2 ай бұрын

    Personally id at least appreciate the header, because the shielding is often grounding too

  • @davidhawley1132
    @davidhawley11322 ай бұрын

    I love those USB sticks. I made a custom PCB for a USB stick case that is a pixel LED controller, and can be operated by WiFi or IR.

  • @DaemonForce
    @DaemonForce2 ай бұрын

    It's quite literally just a PCB with memory. I've used these a lot because I prefer very unstable memory chips to boot literal eWaste computers and utilize them as full time servers. These aren't without merit but they are often shipped as "incomplete" for a reason. They definitely need a sleeve to fit correctly but are otherwise great drives until something serious happens to them. I prefer the 16 and 32GB models as they're the most consistent and can be loaded up with tons of tiny files.

  • @hid6347
    @hid63472 ай бұрын

    actually i like the big long size ones which are made on pcbs, bc they are easier to plug also if the drive is broken its also easier to recover bc its design (tho u shouldnt save important datas on it)

  • @mercklemore
    @mercklemore2 ай бұрын

    "And it lives *in plain sight*" - literally the hardest to find form factor usb device, both to buy and to spot in person.

  • @cliffordwagner
    @cliffordwagner2 ай бұрын

    Good thing DIP isn't already used for a component acronym.

  • @SuperAtom16
    @SuperAtom162 ай бұрын

    a more disposable and easier to loose usb stick, just what we needed!

  • @FlameSoulis
    @FlameSoulis2 ай бұрын

    This is also how Nintendo Switch cartridges work.

  • @HackingInfo
    @HackingInfo2 ай бұрын

    SanDisk ultra 3.0 pendrive already has these USB on package format inside....and one big cons is they heat up pretty quickly after long usage

  • @Bboyman1150
    @Bboyman1150Ай бұрын

    Used to use the Sandisk drives like that to store my files for my school computer.

  • @dylanchen
    @dylanchen2 ай бұрын

    They make repair and data restoration so hard though, as you can't pull off the memory chip. I prefer a bga 152/tsop-48 flash drive.

  • @johndododoe1411
    @johndododoe14112 ай бұрын

    That's a NEW development of manufacturing optimization, going from 2 chips to 1 chip, then making the pinout the actual plug .

  • @broderp
    @broderp2 ай бұрын

    Ok, so now do this with USB-C.....

  • @simpleg7559
    @simpleg75592 ай бұрын

    Funnily enough I did know this. One of the many things I discovered while tinkering way back when.

  • @Na0uta
    @Na0uta2 ай бұрын

    I have one of these. Keep it in a little zip lock bag alongside a "driverless" USB wifi adapter. I use it to restore computers to default settings from time to time. Very handy emergency "I need my computer but not what's on it stuff".

  • @darknesshas1
    @darknesshas12 ай бұрын

    It's how most small USB dongles are made. The Logitech one being a prime example

  • @LarryReedVT
    @LarryReedVT2 ай бұрын

    I would lose that as soon as i pick it up

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    Nice. I believe Gen Alpha calls that type of thing a “skill issue”, but I won’t be so mean because I’m a Zoomer, yay!

  • @JoshP08
    @JoshP08Ай бұрын

    Huh, I have a blink system that has an incredibly small flash drive and I always wondered how they squeeze 64 gigs on those, TIL

  • @seijisawamura000
    @seijisawamura0002 ай бұрын

    I have this in my wallet as a spare storage

  • @bluelinden
    @bluelinden2 ай бұрын

    if you buy one of those silver and black SanDisk usb drives, they tend to have these little things inside of them instead of a pcb.

  • @user-ky6xe3mx2o
    @user-ky6xe3mx2o2 ай бұрын

    Electronics can be made even smaller today! 😱

  • @drcyb3r
    @drcyb3r2 ай бұрын

    Those things are always used in small USB sticks. There isn't space for big PCBs so they use those small ones.

  • @309electronics5
    @309electronics52 ай бұрын

    They are compact but they do generate more heat (and in my experience they also die faster because they use bottom of the bin flash chips which are not verified to work for long) and are harder to recover data off then a nornal flash chip

  • @PWingert1966
    @PWingert19662 ай бұрын

    They also can be used in servers for boot disks.

  • @feynthefallen
    @feynthefallen2 ай бұрын

    BAH. Had one just like it more than 15 years ago. When it broke, I made a new case for it from an old usb jack. Got me no end of geek cred.

  • @UltraCenterHQ
    @UltraCenterHQ2 ай бұрын

    I wonder why it isn't more commonly used though. Maybe a lot of cons

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    28 күн бұрын

    They are! I bet if you went into a store right now and took apart 5 different “average” USB flash drives (not the super cheap 4GB ones), they’d look similar inside!

  • @AdilMudhoffar
    @AdilMudhoffar2 ай бұрын

    I just know whats the difference, I have one that I have been using for more than 5 years. Very reliable.

  • @snowrhodes9176
    @snowrhodes91762 ай бұрын

    That looks like the contact points on a swich cartridge makes ya think

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi51332 ай бұрын

    It's a nano USB stick without enclosure, making it more vulnerable..

  • @switchprocontrollersplatoo7240
    @switchprocontrollersplatoo72402 ай бұрын

    Yknow i wasn’t expecting it to have 64 gigs. That’s impressive

  • @anonymouscommentator
    @anonymouscommentator2 ай бұрын

    i literally cannot find it under the term "disc in package". i feel like you just made that up

  • @shinsynchri2769
    @shinsynchri27692 ай бұрын

    I just use the term Thumb Drive instead of Disc In Package because it's sounds so right and finesse 👌

  • @gregswank4912
    @gregswank49122 ай бұрын

    Chips like that are put into charging cables that some people distribute to infiltrate your phone.

  • @o0kaelas
    @o0kaelas2 ай бұрын

    Genuinely fascinating. Thanks for posting.

  • @jamesnoneyabizness5611
    @jamesnoneyabizness56112 ай бұрын

    Yes, this looks very interesting - curious about the upsides and downsides of the form factor.

  • @Scar32
    @Scar322 ай бұрын

    man as a kid i would take apart those usb bracelets and get out the chip and it was literally just a black chip that had USB contacts in the chip, i did also take one apart that had a PCB on it

  • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
    @ChroniclesofKToyoda2 ай бұрын

    Sony had these when I was a kid with on board compression for on average 3× the space. It came with a rubber thingy to wear it so it didn't get lost

  • @HikaruAkitsuki
    @HikaruAkitsuki2 ай бұрын

    I work as a printer handler in a local computer shop and I encountere this several times and mostly disguise like a credit card. I never thought that that was that unique.

  • @Cosmetic_Astro
    @Cosmetic_Astro2 ай бұрын

    Can't believe these were the size of a large room and now they're smaller than a finger.

  • @someguystudios23
    @someguystudios232 ай бұрын

    I've always had heat, speed, and internal reliability issues with DiPs. Hopefully that's only because mine were cheap; They came in drives that were built as if they were conventional (I even had identical ones that were conventional USB drives!) but were instead DiPs in the same case. So annoying!

  • @Subreon
    @Subreon2 ай бұрын

    an absolute unit, you could say

  • @MDG-mykys
    @MDG-mykys2 ай бұрын

    I remember USB cards

  • @KeonsLab

    @KeonsLab

    2 ай бұрын

    That's how I even learned about these (USB business cards) and got interested in the actual chip format! They look so early 2000s lol, like "we're such a cool company, the business card IS a USB stick!"

  • @bland9876
    @bland98762 ай бұрын

    Yeah I've seen USB drives like that where when you pull the drive out of the computer all the plastic and metal comes off and the thing just explodes leaving you with the disc on package and the rest just sitting there. Whatever ones I had though had a metal housing around it and if you tried to stick just the black piece itself into the computer with the data on it it wouldn't fit because it was too small.

  • @jaselee117
    @jaselee1172 ай бұрын

    I had one of these before like 12 years ago it was super nice and durable except if you got the direction wrong half the time it would break the usb port your plugged it into

  • @paulb4334
    @paulb43342 ай бұрын

    They can also run super hot leading to crappy performane. Just get an external nvme to usb enclosure for serious business

  • @quickwimnl
    @quickwimnl2 ай бұрын

    Having those for years. The oldest I have is over 10 years old.

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