We need a tutorial building video ASAP

It would be nice to publish the existing plans so the exact details could be studied and suggestions made. It's possible that some simple dimensional changes or possibly the addition of another "stage"' to the machine could make it work with oats and other grains. Great idea!

@bastionwolf

Жыл бұрын

I love this comment, that's exactly what I was thinking!

@daphneraven6745

Жыл бұрын

Good Goat: it could well be that the dimmer switch allows for using the machine with other grains. Because it allows for the change of force relative to the weight of the grain.

@TheRainHarvester

Жыл бұрын

​@@daphneraven6745 instead of a hard-to-find blower, maybe a sliding door to adjust air and just connect a fan from the motor pulley? Or bathroom vent fan?

@daphneraven6745

Жыл бұрын

@@TheRainHarvester : Tyvk for sharing your idea; That sounds a whole lot more efficient than mine.

@acesoftrul3z

7 ай бұрын

@@TheRainHarvester you can use the reverse side of a shop vac as well. they can be had pretty cheap on sale if you dont feel comfortable using your existing shop vac near things that will be eaten

Worth mentioning to anyone trying to recreate this, if you’re going to use a dimmer switch on the blower motor it has to be a DC motor or else the dimmer switch won’t do anything.

@TheRainHarvester

Жыл бұрын

Not true. Ceiling fans use special dimmers for AC.

@IowaKeith

7 ай бұрын

​@@TheRainHarvesterthis isn't a special dimmer though. If you plan on using an AC motor, you will need a special dimmer or AC motor controller.

@RaymondLohengrin

4 ай бұрын

​@@TheRainHarvesterI have been using the same dimmer a regular Home Depot 12 amp dimer for 30 years to control a Riobi Router and it keeps working. I am not sure if todays dimmers are as good 🤔

You commented that the rate limiting step for threshing is the preparation of the bundles to insert into the machine. I thresh with a Toro leaf blower/shredder and had similar issues. This year I tried making bundles for threshing when I harvested the wheat. I put a bunch of rubber bands around my left wrist, gathered a bunch of stalks that seemed the right amount with my left hand; then cut with the sickle and slipped a rubber band around the end. The bunches were about 2-3" in diameter. These were gathered and tied into sheaves to stand and dry down/ mature. When I ws ready to thresh, the bunches were already gathered and ready to insert. It went MUCH faster.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

I can see how those pre-made bundles that would make the threshing a lot faster! However, I'd still be taking the time to line up the heads in the field...I wonder if that would end up being faster overall or not. Thanks for sharing that.

@McNastyxx95

Ай бұрын

@@VegetableAcademyI wonder if you made a bigger feed system to beat the grain out, and had a second vent to blow air from the front to back to push big pieces out before the reach the separation stage where they get caught and backed up would work. Also, it’s not necessary cause to pick through that doesn’t seem like a whole lot it’s not exactly perfect but nothing is and it does it’s job wonderful. But I wonder if you could build a second little chamber on the side you could dump into for a second screening to cut out the bigger pieces your left with. A lot of work I know but just a opinion!

This is a nice build. A couple of point that I see. I think it would have been better to separate threshing and winnowing into two separate machines. Beat it out onto a shaker screen and into a bin. Then run the contents of the bin through the winnower as many times as necessary. The other thing is that most modern varieties of grain have been bred to dry in the field without shattering. I'm far south so it may be different other places, but here, there's no benefit to binding and shocking. I cut everything as close to the head as I can and leave the straw standing.

I live in an apartment and do not thresh my own grain. But this was so interesting to watch. Just a mention that a short greeting from the little lady would have brought her into the moment a little better. Salute. :))

Awesome solution to a major barrier in small scale grain production!

I think it's great what your doing to help people grow and process wheat at home ensuring food when there's none to be had in grocery stores, or prices are out of reach for average consumers. Awesome work thank you.

Fascinating! I moved into the neighbourhood this summer and have been admiring your wheat landing strip. The lovely folks at the community garden told me look you up…the channel does not disappoint!

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

That's good to hear Debby. If you ever catch me working there, do stop by to say hello.

@karenfoster5705

Жыл бұрын

What neighborhood is this. I would love to see it too

Nice threshing machine that you got there, to give you better result in oats and maybe even make it work for over crop like beans you can try to copy what we use in combine harvert to make them work in any crops. First you can add a system of fixed threshing finger that you go between those of the drum (they could also be set at different depht to change the threshing intensity). A small mash would also make it harder for the grain to fall through or as we do on combine you could use a fine plywood board that would slide undreneath the mash, then by pushing it in you woud block a part of your screan, letting you adjust your threshing intensity by forcing the grain to make multiple turn inside the thresher.

@ronbell7920

Жыл бұрын

Way to go Quentin!!

For my flax seed I ripple off the seed heads then run the seed heads through a wide gap corn grinding machine. It breaks the round seed pods and releases all the seed without damage to the seed. I then take that and run it through a couple screens before running it through my seed cleaner. Works like a champ.

@sherryhayhurst3027

Жыл бұрын

Make a video of it the process & functioning? Please!😁

@abittwisted

Жыл бұрын

@@sherryhayhurst3027 There are plenty of them on KZread to watch. It's pretty much the same as the others.

@abittwisted

Жыл бұрын

@@sherryhayhurst3027 This is not mine but looks very similar. This one is a little better built but they do work great. Once set you can clean seed quite quickly. There are plans on the web so you can build one. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p2iXk4-amravfKQ.html

I never thought I would love something like this! Great job, now I'll be building one

I'd block off the waste outlet and use or modify the hole you made to send it to the back. Great home job guys!

My seed cleaner uses a vacuum instead of a blower. With the oats I'd just use the old methods of threshing then put the chaff and seed through your seed cleaner. The looks like it does a great job with wheat. With the oats you could stomp the heads as well if needed. A long stick with a chain or leather strap and a shorter stick will make a fine thresher for your oats. That way you are not stomping with dirty shoes on your nice grain.

What a nice simple design! Thank you for sharing

For the oats, increasing the rpm speed of the threshing drum might better separate the grain from the shells and chaff.

I am so very impressed. Thank you for teaching us how it is done.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome Karen. This was a fun project for me and it's nice to be able to share what we've learned so far. I'm glad you found it helpful.

Fantastic 🤩 I can't wait to see the next prototype 👌🏼

Your videos are so underrated.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

That's nice to hear Meredith. I'm glad you appreciate them.

Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

That's a really cool machine! Great job!

Excellent invention, thank you for sharing!

This is absolutely brilliant… I love it. Job well done Thanks for putting it together, for the effort of figuring it out and the fine tuning. Cheers

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you enjoyed this.

Brilliant! This would be great to make with teenagers .. food for thought!

Well done. Excellent. Thanks for sharing

very cool homebuild you have given me some ideas

That is awesome!

Love to see it!! Nice work

Genius!! And generous.. Thanks man.. 👑

Super cool!

This is amazing!

I love machines like this. Well done. For the oats, perhaps if the top rotating separator fingers passed between stationary fingers spaced in-between - something that would provide interference, that would do a better job of breaking open those hulls. Again, excellent work.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea that I hadn't thought of. It would certainly add another degree of disturbance that could help release the hulls. Thanks for sharing that.

Impressive build. ❤

Very cool!

It's an interesting first build! good stuff.

Get a 6'foldable table and put it against a wall. Get a bunch of the stems and push the seeds against the wall. Grab the bunch and your wheat is ready to thresh.

Very nice! I have seen a miniature version of this concept to clean other seeds for the garden.

Good Job. I need to make something like this for my chicken feed here in AK.

It works very well great vid Brother

Quite inspirational...

Brilliant and ingenious 👌👌

Very innovative. From looking at hammer mills for processing hard rock gold ore, they use a very fine screen, so that the end product is very fine - liberating free mill gold. Perhaps you might have an easier time with the oats if you use a smaller screen size, but not so small they get turned into dust ofc.

Man your getting somewhere it looks like trial and error and with time and more use you’ll get the right system and proportions and measurement and what not down. And build a perfect one man. This one here is still awesome tho. I would use the hell out of this if I had grain to separate lol. Looks like something I could do to pass time.

Very nice design! I've been working on a cyclone design, but I like your cascade separator so much. I snip the heads of all my stocks and toss them in a hopper. I'm trying to think of a "stripper" design for my streaker oats.

Mad impressive! Two things that could help: 1. Add an earlier stage with perpendicular blades to cut the wheat, so you don't get the large pieces. It might be difficult, but I imagine with a blunt enough edge and little enough force it would just break the stalks but not the grain, but maybe that's not the case. 2. Integrate the blower with the roller such that the outlet is the full width of the roller, so you have more surface area which will reduce the amount of chaff that falls through. It's already being agitated at that step, so it will have a much higher chance of being exposed to the air flow than the small channel, where the berries could block the airflow from the chaff. Or just add a second blower stage.

Nice one 👍 have you ALLSO got a mill it would be great to see the whole process from garden to the oven but anyway thanks for the video

Excellent, thanks.

That’s pretty cool

brilliant!

That works really well, i expected to see a bit of chaff in the grain or vice versa but that all looks very clean.

Very instructive video. I would probably just buy one of these online, but it's nice to know the physics of the machine works now. Thanks for posting.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Really? Where would you buy one of these from?

Neat machine.

Worth looking at the threshing design of a combine harvester where as well as centrifugal speed/force there is rubbing of the heads between 2 surfaces, a grid and a rasp bar. this adjustable gap deals with the white tips and husk on oats better.

Super cool gadget! I'm not far enough into my homesteading journey to need this yet, but I have absorbed the information and will hopefully find myself needing one of these soon. (Soil amending is no joke, man. It's taking seemingly forever.)

@flat-earther

7 ай бұрын

hi 1incutheta, have you become a flat earther yet?

I have had great success harvesting oats with a blueberry rake. I simply walk through the oats and rake the berries off the top of a standing crop and drop the grain into a garbage barrel. I can fill a barrel in about 20 minutes. I have used it as chicken feed and didn’t remove the chaff but I’m sure it could be beaten and blown in a similar fashion as your invention.

Nice machine.

Nice machine and great idea! Please get some guarding up around those pinch points 🙏

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Yes. You're not the first to mention that. Thanks for looking out for me.

I wonder if the flaps like you see in grocery store freezers would be better than that plastic door when you stick the heads of the stalks in the machine. Less of an opening for the grain to escape when its smacked. Do you by chance have a video series or documents on how to build/possibly redesign?

Nice machine

I bet that chaff is a fantastic fire starter

On a windy day, take your wheat and pour it from bucket to bucket a few times. The wind will blow the husks away and the wheat will land in the bucket.

You need an adjustable clearance friction roller to role the grain against a backstop so the chap comes off.

Just saw one of your shorts which led me to your channel and I'm very impressed with this! Forgive me if this has been discussed in a previous, are you making this available or just something for your personal use only? Either way this is fantastic! New subscriber from Ontario Canada!

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Welcome here. At the moment, this is just a threshing machine that we will continue to use personally, but people are encouraged to take inspiration from this design to build one of their own.

What a way to also produce premium straw for thatching too😍

This guy wins

On the dimmer switch, have you marked it for the different grains so you can turn it straight to the correct point?

nice machine bro

Super nice. I need one. Very hard to find a small scale thresher. Even harder to find a small scale hand or pedal powered one! Very nice job and your life just became a lot easier! Wish I was handy like that.

@SeattlePioneer

7 ай бұрын

> I presume you've used the old fashioned method of just beating the wheat stalks against something to break loose the wheat grains. And you can winnow thew grain by tossing it up in a stream of air to blow away the chaff. That sounds like small scale threshing and winnowing to me. What am I missing?

@CartarioTheFarmer

7 ай бұрын

@@SeattlePioneer Yes I sure have, but it gets to be a VERY large job when we are talking 2 acres of grain. I also find that method isn't very efficient and a lot of grain gets wasted. Something like this would be nice. www.google.com/search?q=treadle+powered+thresher&oq=treadle+powered+thresher&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yDQgCEAAYhgMYgAQYigXSAQgzOTYwajFqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2e856ac9,vid:MxXGS8nxZTo,st:0

id put a hood over that pulley system, just asking for something to get caught, but otherwise good stuff mate

I think that you can simulate the effect of rubbing the oats in your hands if you have two rubber belts running vertically in opposite directions with an adjustable gap that you set to match the grain size. The trick may be to have a slight different in the belt speeds.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. An adjustable gap would be key, as would the ability to apply uniform pressure along the belt surface. I think only one of the belts would need to be moving. thanks for the idea. I was thinking about rollers and spinning discs to create the rubbing effect, but never belts.

@DavidTuckerII

Жыл бұрын

@@VegetableAcademy What about vacuum beaters. Do you think something like a vacuum beater would work it loose?

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidTuckerII That is a neat idea. If you built a custom sized chamber around the spinning vacuum beater and ran the grain through the chamber, you might just cause enough friction to clean off the last hulls. I don't think it would break the grains, and the spiral brush configurations on most vacuum beaters could be really helpful in moving the grain through the chamber.

@clodhopper946

Жыл бұрын

@@VegetableAcademy U need a set of concaves around your cylinder that are adjustable like combines,,,ur cylinder speed needs to be increased for oats around 1100 rpm

@MolloRelax

8 ай бұрын

.....or also I could see a set of two adjustable face plates ,oscillating against each other with the right gap between them; much like the pad of a palm orbiting sander does.

I’d buy one of these!

@SeattlePioneer

7 ай бұрын

The process of growing and processing wheat into flour is really very complex. This video illustrates only two of the many steps needed ---threshing and winnowing. ALL of the steps have been massively industrialized, producing very cheap flour as an end product. So I really can't see much of a reason to replicate the whole process on a very slight scale of production, which would inevitably require LOTS of labor. Of course, everybody needs a hobby, but that's the only basis I can see for replicating grain and flour production as a home industry. What would be your reason for adopting this kind of process? I might adde that for several years an apple tree on the public right of way near where I live was neglected and all it's fruit fell on the ground each year. I hate food waste, so for several years I picked the apples, washed them, cut them up, shredded them in a food shredder then squeezed them into cider, straining out pieces of apple along the way. That produced a hugely good apple cider, but at the cost of a LOT of labor! The lesson I learned was just how much labor goes into producing food. Producing your own flour would be FAR more labor intensive than my apple cider, I suggest. So---- please explain why this attracts you as an activity?

So you get clean wheat kernals, fine chaff and straw. Food, compost, mulch, bedding and even thatch. I like this apparatus.

Just thinking for the oats. if the beater had to beat the oats through a bristle head like a broom head maybe it would remove the husk. Might help break up some of the wheat reeds too.

So grateful your sharing this great idea. I had made up my mind I wasn't gonna bother with this crop, chaff and all. Now, I hope I'll be able/have it built soon. Curious tho, get your own patent? Many will be needing this soon. I'm one of them. Thanks again.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you found this encouraging! The thresher definitely makes the grain harvesting more pleasant and efficient than just beating it with a stick and tossing everything in the wind to separate the chaff. I have no worries about increasing our grain production next year now, knowing I will be able to handle the threshing with ease. Please send me some photos if you end up building something similar.

I bet you could use parts from an old drill press to upgrade this. They already have a variable speed belt driven pulley system with control, capacitor, and an on/off button and switch. You could probably just take the top case and motor off a drill press as is and fit it to this thresher.

I like it . I wonder if motor was faster for thrashing for the oats.. would make a difference . More harder thrashing in the oats ..

Awesome video mate.. do you have plans to build this machine you could share with us? Cheers

Outstanding Do you have plans so I could make one

Ingenious! What is the roller drum made from?

I bet that chaff makes for some great chicken bedding

I wonder if you sharpened the thrashers if it would do better or if it would cut up the grain.

If it works like a combin which i think it does for the oats you need a thiner screen and mabey some more wind

Might be easier to get an old grain cleaner and do the proper cleaning to then. Very impressive

This is brilliant! I like your invention. What did you use for the threshing arms? I've a mind to give it a try. Is the curved front underneath the feeder mouth made from flexible plastic or something?

Nice! Imagine that machine doing acres per day? I like to eat cheap. Your state university extension folks likely can connect you with real plans and engineering. Stay safe.

Very cool! For clearing obstructions at the top of chute, would a small hinged door provide better access? A little weather stripping around the door would minimize forced air loss.

@VegetableAcademy

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the idea. A hinged door would definitely make it easier to access the stuck straw. However, I need that straw to still pass down the same channels because there is always wheat or oats mixed in there too that I wouldn't want to just discard. I've found that as long as I keep long pieces of straw from entering the machine in the first place, things run a lot more smoothly and I don't need to use the clean out poker all that much.

If you fed the grains through again after all done without the beater on, would that refine it even further?

The top drum looks like a very good hand & arm shredder-chipper.

@redstone1999

Жыл бұрын

Only if you have a child-grade mentality. If you stick your hand into a ' plugged-in ' and/or ' running machine '. You deserve to get injured.

@samuelmellars7855

8 ай бұрын

​@@redstone1999screw-ups happen. I've fed vines into a shredder and had them catch me, yanking me towards the machine. Luckily the vines broke instead of breaking something in my arm, or dragging me in. I'd been working for a bit, wasn't thinking and had got too comfortable around the machine. It just takes a second of being distracted and off-balance. You lean against the flap to stabilize yourself and whoopsie!

@redstone1999

8 ай бұрын

@@samuelmellars7855 I had to stop an adult helper from sticking his hand into an electric wood chipper to unblock it. His excuse was the motor was going to tripped the fuse. I said, " Unplugging the chipper was 100 % safer way to unblock the machine". Loose clothing around equipment is another thing I see people do that begs to get someone hurt.

You could make a second stage to put the chaff through the same process again thus removing seeds that went into the original chaff route and missed the first seed bin

Different size screen under the drum for legumes. Can you do something small like amaranth in this ?

Would a tumbler help separate the hull from the oats after you run it through the machine?

Seeing as you have to double handle each stem anyway, would it not work to trim the heads off each stem and let it drop into a bucket, rather than line them up, and then have a hopper you tip all the heads into so they feed into the thresher by themselves? That should work for oats then too as you handle it once above a bucket and then whatever drops off goes through the hopper.

supernice

What are all thr different grains can you through in there?

could you do this with rye?(you want to watch for ergot fungus of course if it's purple that's bad)

Can you do a video of how to build this.. please ... Thank you so much

Wondering how much the final cost of the grain is, factoring in the amount of time dedicated to planting, harvesting, processing, etc. (To figure time cost, the way I do it is to consider what I'd be doing instead. For instance, if I can manage $5 worth of beans in an hour [roughly 5 lbs] or get a pound of grain instead, that's $5/lb of grain.)

Also the thrashing bars might make difference if they where s curved a little bit so hits come at all angles maybe .. just some thoughts .. 🤔

👍💛

Have you tried other grains besides wheat & oats? Are you making custom orders or selling the plans?