After receiving many comments that there is not enough throttle in Mercedes - here is the answer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html Here is also another test - E43 AMG vs the same A6: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKWO2I98dq3eoco.html And older generations of A6 and E: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZZ-mKyIgbWYc5c.html

@TheTKK1990

3 жыл бұрын

ill take a look

Ladies and gentlemen, I live in Newfoundland which is famous for the amount of snow we have each year in Canada. My opinion, due to my wife drives a Mercedes B250 4Matic and I drive an A4 Quattro. The key note is: BUYING A GOOD SET OF SNOW TIRE!

@moritzstopp6036

5 жыл бұрын

Yep thats that's what I was thinking about too even though I live in southern germany and there isn't much snow sadly.

@mikiii880

5 жыл бұрын

@@moritzstopp6036 Winter tyres don't require snow. Once the temp dips below 10 C, summer tyres lose a good portion of their grip due to stiffening.

@shakke52

5 жыл бұрын

Go studded for the best traction!

@yili7322

5 жыл бұрын

@@shakke52 , i used to have studded tires on my front wheel drive Jetta. It was great. But I hate the sound from the tires. A great set a snow tires on a all wheel drive are good enough for me.

@shakke52

5 жыл бұрын

@@yili7322 Wish I could do the same here in the northest of the northest, north Scandinavia.

Test is unfair. Cars have different colours

@ledio.m

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@alexandrubucataru4364

5 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@berkecanavci16

5 жыл бұрын

traffbros hahahahahahah

@bencrosbie

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@sulek1818

5 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

This individual does the best objective testing when it comes to awd. I've seen other videos and each manufacturers fanboys all claim to have the best system even when they lose on these simple tests. Listen they all work, differently, but the all work. Go with what you like and have a nice day. No need to bash other people and their preferences.

Test should be done by same person. Driving skills change results. So same test one driver push the pedal smoothly, other driver full throoth.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Levent Kirca Driving skills has nothing to do here. Driver presses gas pedal and waits for the reaction of system. We do not measure any reaction times of electronics, that is not labolatory test. Nobody uses full throttle, it may damage the car.

@martinnikolov2363

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's why your test is incorrect..

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@martinnikolov2363 Why? I don't meausure miliseconds of systems reaction times, I don't measure Nm's sent to each wheels. Furthermore - every driver knows his car better then me, so I think that owner of the car will do better behind the steering wheel than any other person. And believe me - every owner wants his car to pass all tests.

@johna2604

5 жыл бұрын

LOL Here the sensors of the car work, skills wouldn't move the car but the sensors that send message to the main computer to start moving the other free wheels

@Mr_tunning

5 жыл бұрын

you should take E classe not c

Rocking back and forth to get out of a jam is something that we've been doing forever. Having your passenger get out and push is another handy aid (especially if she's your mother-in-law).

I've played with these rollers before. It's easy to manipulate the results by altering throttle input. The quicker you hit the throttle, the quicker you pull off the rollers. I had an E350 and 535, and I could easily alter which one appeared to perform better on the rollers. I've never trusted these roller demonstrations ever since, especially ones from dealer or car reviewers of a certain brand. In my opinion, the best way to test AWD capabilities of a car is by testing them on a horizontal incline with the same tires. This has proven to be the best way, but not many people do it.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

iggibars I always tell driver to do that not too slow and not too quick (rollers may hit the car). We usually do a few attempts to find the best level. Reaction times are not measured, that is fun, not labolatory test.

@DeadpoolxItachi

5 ай бұрын

This is so true my friend. It not a fair testin.

in Mercedes that guy is accelerating so slowly n in Audi hes flooring it. wtf man. dont do that dawg!!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Gurpreet Singh Explanation in many other comments.

@snorman1911

4 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers And people in those comments still don't get it! Lol.

@migold8309

4 жыл бұрын

merc cuts the power, not the driver.

@Slazlo-Brovnik

4 жыл бұрын

Dear Gurpreet "WTF" Singh: I am guessing, the ESP cuts the power. That is also the only reason I can think of, why ESP off should lead to other results. You DO need to understand some basic things to get the point of such tests.

@joa9069

4 жыл бұрын

Gurpreet Singh that’s true

It would really help if you could give us your thoughts on which is better. Thx PS : you seem to apply much more gas in the Audi, is there a reason?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

TheMpamMpam I do not judge and I rather would not say which is better. When it comes to gas - Mercedes is cutting throttle much harder than Audi, so that is not driver input.

@TheMpamMpam

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thx for the explanation regarding the gas. As for the not judging part, you test awd systems and an objective opinion from someone with experience is not judgment, it defeats the whole purpose and would add value to your videos. I would reconsider... Nevertheless, thank you for your videos

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

TheMpamMpam Thank you for suggestion, the problem is that if I say that 4Matic is better, I'll get tens of comments that Mercedes paid me. And vice versa. In fact, even without that I get such comments... But if you have questions, it is my pleasure to answer, here or on Facebook.

@TheMpamMpam

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I really feel you an understand your perspective. Keyboard warriors are waiting to shoot anytime. But I guess that is a part of the exposure... You get the haters together with the people that appreciate your work. Keep it up

@edu.g6082

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers nice answer, anyway which systems does the Benz use for its AWD for front and rear differentials(limited slip differential or braking each wheel individually) am surprised to see that its a front bias AWD...!

The rims on that Audi are terrrrrrrible

@MrZyLeXx

5 жыл бұрын

might look terrible but atleast it goes forward.

@TruckerNaz

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrZyLeXx don't forget they go backward too

@yrngeniee

5 жыл бұрын

Dont Buy Base Model lol

@simmisingh3652

5 жыл бұрын

It’s an old model

@rahuldogra

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Outlaw its a lower model Payextra you will a nice ones

Always that 3 wheel test that gets em

they’re both fine just go buy winter tires and move on

@TruckerNaz

5 жыл бұрын

ha i get it

Me encantan estas pruebas, sigan así! Saludos

Both systems are working great! I'm someone who prefers "quattro" but the Mercedes is doing the same job like the Audi. The quattro system worked quit better here in some situation and the 4 matic system in some situation too. That's all!

Świetnie pokazane, że Mercedes lepiej radzi sobie przy delikatniejszym użyciu gazu. Fajny pomysł na test jednak cały efekt psuje fakt, że audi daje od razu pełen gaz. Nie chodzi o to czy prywatnie wolę Marca czy Audi bo uważam, że stare dobre Quattro jest najlepsze jadnak w dzisiejszych czasach to już nie to samo. Quattro już tylko z napisu pozostało.

Super Video

Well, they both seem to work. 4Matic often cuts off the power very fast while Quattro is more constant, very interesting. However, I'm glad that BMW's Xdrive did every single one of these tests ;)

@Swedishbiker

5 жыл бұрын

Quattro did it aswell.

@pistonburner6448

8 ай бұрын

@@SwedishbikerQuattro did not.

Test every car with the awd option. I love these kinds of technical videos instead of the crap the other reviewers give just to make a long ass video. And the best part is that you don't talk and let the results do the talking.

@ACERASPIRE1

4 жыл бұрын

What do they prove?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Here is the answer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2Zqy5KzodfLiKg.html

Great video

You should test the mercedes e class 4matic+ and audi a6 or mercedes c class and audi a4

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

A4 has the same awd system as A6. C has the same awd system as E.

@bram8333

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers but new e class has 4matic *+*

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@bram8333 OK, but A6 ain't new here. I would need to find the newest generations of both.

@samuilhristov4155

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yeah but there is a difference in the power, and E class has at least 50hp more than the C and A6 has more HP than the A4

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@samuilhristov4155 Here you have 190hp in Audi and 183hp in Mercedes. It doesn't matter, during this test cars use maybe 40hp.

Honestly I don't see why people say the Audi system is better. Mercedes cuts power a lot sooner, meaning it realizes the loss of grip sooner. With ESP turned off they performed the same. Think about it, you're on a wet road, the car starts sliding, you're in the Audi and the wheels are still accelerating trying to find traction when there's none. While in the Mercedes, SC kicks in much faster giving you back the control.

@zedmund9123

5 жыл бұрын

Yes the merc had about the same speed with ESP off, but are you going to drive on a wet road with ESP/traction control off? Its cutting the power sooner (more intrusive) but its not sending power back fast enough.

@SgtKanyo

5 жыл бұрын

@@zedmund9123 Exactly, you probably won't be driving without ESP, especially if you're looking for AWD. I'm a RWD type of guy, but I understand those who are looking for AWD are more interested in traction and safety and for that imo having the power cut faster is better. To prevent excessive wheelspin, you need to not just cut power to that wheel, but also slightly brake it so it can regain traction as soon as possible. A good example for this is if you floor a FWD car in wet conditions and the wheel starts spinning and you let go of the throttle immediately, the wheels will still be spinning. Same can happen with AWD in extreme conditions.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

SgtKanyo Exactly, once tires start spinning, friction coefficient goes down. And when they are already sliding, they can slide easier than before wheel slip occurs.

@zedmund9123

5 жыл бұрын

@@SgtKanyo understood. Well, in extreme conditions.. I would probably prefer power to the wheels that already have traction to be able to control the already out of control situation. But thats just me, using the accelerator to maintain balance.. and its hard to go for a light brake in an emergency moment, too much braking and you will slide to heaven But based on what youve said the merc would definitely be better in preventing an emergency situation in the first place(cutting power).

@charity9685

5 жыл бұрын

Quattro is better in snow and rain

The time from the wheels starting to rotate until the cars move is irrelevant. The number of rotations of the wheels is more accurate.

Good test

You should test the A4 with C-Class or A6 with E-Class

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Awd systems are the same in A4/A6 and C/E.

I want to see the MB G klasse with 3 locking diff's on rollers

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Kr Dz There is such test on KZread, it doesn't need lockers to pass all.

@rodneymorash4013

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

You forgot to test with all 4 wheels on the roll 😂

Not bad. The 3 wheel test is what most would fail on. think audi does more wheel spin than the merc. Both take a while for one of the wheels to kick in at all.

These tests makes me realise just how good my Subaru Outback is...

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

2 жыл бұрын

What Outback do you have?

Quatro>4Matic>Xdrive that's all

Mercedes😍

Powerful

Actually people do not know much about all wheel drive. For the cars like C class and A4, all wheel drive is for better traction to drive on the road. In such extreme condition when 3 tires lose traction, it is not about how strong the car can distribute torque. The real off road vehicle would have differential lock, and you have to activate it manually to lock the torque distribution. Eventually, all the wheels would rotate at same speed with same torque regardless traction if the vehicle has all 3 locks, also such vehicle usually also have low gear to increase the torque by reducing the speed. Please check the physics of flying wheel. There are 3 differential locks and they come in order. Central lock causes front and rear tires have equal torque, rear lock causes both rear tire has equal torque, front lock just same as other. However, only a few real off road vehicles have front lock such as G class or Jeep Wrangler. For example, the current X5 does not have any lock, but the all new X5 has it as option. The old ML has lock, but the current GLE does not.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@Jun Jun I understand what you wanted to say, but your comment (and understanding) is full of huge mistakes. You can't lock the torque distribution by locker, they are doing exactly the opposite thing. Any lock (front/rear, left/right) causes that torque distribution is no more equal to 50-50, but varies from ~0-100 to ~100-0. Only open differentials have always equal torque.

Hey, nice videos. But didn't the audi have an advantage considering it's a diesel with better low end torque?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Elie Abou Issa Thanks. There is not much torque needed in such tests, so no real advantage. Good awd systems pass these tests even if cars have no turbo small petrol engines.

@oguzhaneren

5 жыл бұрын

This is mainly a electronic locking diff test, rather than engine power/torque.

@zepter00

5 жыл бұрын

Elie Abou Issa no.

The problem is that you can't compare two cars that are not comparable. For a really fair test it would require two cars with the same weight, the same tires, the same rim sizes, the same power and the same torque. Not to mention humidity and climatic conditions. Or the fact that the driver cannot reproduce the same movement in the same way for each of the two cars. I think that 4matic or Quattro, these two technologies are equivalent and very efficient, it's only a matter of taste. Very few people will have enough experience to identify the difference between these two technologies. Otherwise the video remains interesting!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

AWOL MX All the factors you mention would be important in labolatory test. But not here, where we do that for fun, without any measurments of time, Nm etc. This is very easy test which shows basic operation of traction control and awd system. No judgements.

@HowardSail

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Of course, I agree with you it's obvious and then there are no cars at Mercedes and Audi that are really identical so we can never really get a 100% accurate result. But the video is well in all respects to understand the mechanism and its effectiveness, nice job !

@Mr0supra0

5 жыл бұрын

Tires, weight, rims have no impact on rollers, none. Power and torque doesn't matter either because neither of the cars will actually use the power/torque they have in this test, not even close. You could have 1000hp and 1000NM, and 200hp and 300NM in the other, and none of them will use their whole power. This is just a test of the AWD systems itself.

@UPR91

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thx a lot man for the work you've done and shared. Even with not fully identical condition, that is very instructive to see the behavior of the different system. You've made your experience as an engineer do with what he has. I think the experience with 1 or 2 free wheels was very representative. With 3 free wheels, the contact pressure of the 4th wheel could be very affected by the fact you lifted the car entirely, the resulting force will be the consequence of the shock absorber stiffness and stroke. It could be very different between the 2 cars. Anyway, I liked the demonstration you've made with the different ESP/TC mode. Theses infos are hard to understand and feel just by driving or reading the f manual.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@UPR91 Thanks. Unfortunately I am not an engineer... When it comes to test on three rollers - everything you wrote would be correct if the test was simulating real situation. But IMHO it is not possible in reality to have three wheels with 0% traction and one wheel with 100% traction, that is fun test. I am buying a barrel of whiskey to a person who will show me a car stuck in such condition 🙂

We have an Audi A6, A 4x4 Dodge truck and a corvette. For whatever reason, females think that the audi's "quattro" is a more capable system for low traction scenarios than the truck with a real transfer case, 4 low, and diff lockers. The power of marketing.

ten kciuk po komentarzu już wiem po co - lubisz takie gry

Машинки симпатичные особенно Мерс

When you try to make Mercedes look bad by gently tapping on the gas but in the Audi pedal to the medal??

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Faked Flyer In fact, there was pedal to the metal in Mercedes, not Audi. Think and try to find out how's that possible.

My uncle added (rear) differential lock mechanism in his E55 after watching videos like this

@hahgay3837

3 жыл бұрын

Ah ok. But why so comment in this video

Чем круче полный привод, тем дальше идти за трактором..

All grip would just get of really fast

That A6 look like an inferior car when in reality it's a much more expensive car. The A6 competes with the E class

Not every Audi gets the same Quattro setup. There is also 5 versions of Mercedes 4matic.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 ай бұрын

I believe there's more than 5 versions of 4Matic. And there's over 20 versions of quattro.

Finally, after all those videos, wich car perfoms better....?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Better than what? If you mean the best then there is a few like Jeep, Subaru, Suzuki, Land Rover, Tesla...

@adisadis6313

4 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers i mean 4×4...

Tested Lada Niva

If you slow down the video you can see that mb needs less wheel spins than audi

@44hasso87

5 жыл бұрын

Oy yeah nahui

@maxk7258

5 жыл бұрын

@@44hasso87 oh yeah nahui

Bem legal esse teste. Só pedir ao motorista do Mercedes para acelerar mais forte em algumas situações.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Eduardo Ventura He can't, system is cutting power. Gas pedal was sometimes pressed to the floor.

the haldex on the new arteon fares much better somehow

Personally from viewing, the Audi appears to let more revs due to the system realising a wheel still has suitable traction and letting the others spin freely to allow for future traction. The Benz does realise the wheel with traction but has a limited amount of wheel spin speed before cutting power if all wheels aren't moving after a certain point. One thinks it's stuck(Audi) hence why it allows more power till all wheels spin, the other thinks it's moving and losing traction(Benz) hence why it limits power to get all wheels to same speed which is for control and stability. In the end it's kind of inconclusive but they're doing as programmed

Quattro without Torsen is not Quattro.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Анатолий Малышкин Do you think there is no torsen A6?

@Johann_Weis

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers why this A6 don't ride on 1 rear wheel? Its rear diff not blocked, therefore it's not Torsen. Correct?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@Johann_Weis I have no idea what you mean. Rear and front diffs are open. Center one may be torsen or crown gear diff, dependent on version.

@Johann_Weis

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers yes, both diffs are open, but Torsen are selfblock diff, aren't he? So, why car not ride on 1 wheel?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Анатолий Малышкин Torsen is not locking, that is common mistake. Torsen cannot lock, it only multiplies the torque. But it needs grip. If there is no grip, it works like an open diff. And it has nothing to do with test where only one wheel has grip, that is up to front or rear diff.

Would be cool if you would test the 4Matic+ System

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

2 жыл бұрын

If I only find it...

Wow! The 4 matic is so much smoother! Unexpected, really!

I like the video a lot i mean Audi does spend millions of dollars to research awd systems mercedez is more of like an offer of awd but not their center point. Also their specialty is rwd not awd. Quattro is so sophisticated it can send power to other wheels within milliseconds i dont think it was unfair i just think the tests show the truth. My Audi has seen snow and never gotten stuck

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Edwin Dominguez Actually, there are some systems which are faster than Quattro. When it comes to Mercedes, in others models (G, GLC etc.) they have systems which can pass all tests probably easier than any Audi, so they somehow use different software in different models (so is Audi in fact).

@edwindominguez2548

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Audi is now using a new system of quattro look it up is called ultra technology

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@@edwindominguez2548 I tested it a few months ago, check my channel.

@Doa744

5 жыл бұрын

hey my RWD AMG has seen snow and never got stuck... what does that prove?

@edwindominguez2548

5 жыл бұрын

@@Doa744 never said it couldn't ive owned fwd audi a4 that dont struggle at all and just saying that if awd is your specialty youre going to be better

c class vs a6 🤷‍♂️

Класс

que buenos sistemas de tracción pd: NO!

Audi quattro is best

4Matic and XDrive😏😏😏

@eldinmehovic9020

3 жыл бұрын

You are Gay

Finaly which one win ? Which one is the best?

👍Differential Likes This

Audi driver very aggressive on the pedal

@SnoVVdogsPks

3 жыл бұрын

They always are :D.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

3 жыл бұрын

He wouldn't be aggressive in Benz - it cuts the throttle immediately.

Learned nothing from this, the audi is giving much more revs so the traction system engages faster

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html

Сейчас, мне очень нравится, как фольцваген играет тягой на все оси.. Более, разумно что ле..

👍

На мерсе трогается плавно, а на ауди во всю тапку жмёт

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html

@Oblomoff_fan

4 жыл бұрын

Ауди лучшая. Смирись

Mercedes all the way 🙌

Remember the Audi quattro was the first serie car 4x4 at decade 70

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Eduardo Sapata Not decade '70, but 1980. And it wasn't the first...

I don´t how feel, when the Dacia duster makes the 3 wheeler better...

What does this test prove exactly?

@MasterDedalius

3 жыл бұрын

Both are crap. Get a range rover

I'm a Mercedes fan boy, and yet i can say that the quattro system is more complex.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

@Draggy654 In this case both cars have full time, always on awd systems with mechanical center differential.

@ivan9066

5 жыл бұрын

@Draggy654 since the 2nd gen 4matic its an all time awd. I drive an E320 4matic, goes like a rally car in snow.

The real sad part is how similar these cars look.

@migold8309

4 жыл бұрын

not at all.

Fanboys fighting about which is better while i'm here just enjoying watching the car do it's thing😂

Audi driver cheats by jamming pedal to the floor. Hence system is forced to react faster. Your comparison SUCKS

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Weeknight Drive It was explained million times. Especially for you, I am not going to explain it any more.

@socrates5573

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you, Audi sucks, Mercedes too, BMW is the best

@antypoliticobumbum

5 жыл бұрын

@@socrates5573 love it hahaha

@3oHe1

5 жыл бұрын

@@socrates5573 and you are brainless if oyu think bmw is better than audi and mercedes bmw is trash car

@socrates5573

5 жыл бұрын

@@3oHe1 You fucking nuts, STFU

Audi Driver press full gas,Mercedes driver press smoothly gas!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Actually it is exactly the opposite... kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html

I am a mercedes fan, but the audio did quite a bit better

Compare e220 vs audi a6 or c class vs a4

Szkoda że audi ruszało na pełnej pi****e, a Mercedes na pół gwizdka -.-

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Mo Ro Odpowiedziałem Ci na to w innym komentarzu.

@jackm3458

5 жыл бұрын

Być może to wynika z skrzyni biegów i sterownika ale i tak widać przewagę Mercedesa

@Kamil-si3cc

5 жыл бұрын

T P pokaz mi ta przewagę ?

@jackm3458

5 жыл бұрын

Przenieś to na warunki drogowe na przykład ruszasz na śliskim i tak w audi zanim zadziała jakikolwiek system trakcji bądź mechanizmy rużnicowe o ograniczonym poślizgu (o ile jest więcej niż jeden między osiowy a raczej nie ma więcej) to te koła które ruszyły wyślizgują sobie dołek i nie są wstanie nawet w niewielkim stopniu wspomóż podczas gdy Mercedes w podobnej sytuacji ma szansę skożystać z nawet nie wielkiej sily przyczepności kół ponieważ nie zrywa na starcie przyczepności bo rusza płynnie.

@filmydlawszystkich2157

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Jaki to jest napęd quattro, stały na 4 czy załączany?

They push the gas on audi much more this is sponsored

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Here is exactly the same A6 vs other cars, watch these videos and tell me - who sponsored them? kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpaly9FpnJPPntY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/inx9rrpqZriXm9I.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/fIlmyKyHaMfIh7g.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKWO2I98dq3eoco.html When it comes to throttle - there are many (not mine) videos showing the same behaviour of 4Matic (with ESP ON, full throttle), here is an example: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2F60beNgM3HZLw.html With ESP OFF - what is driver doing in 3:30 if not accelerating hard??

@remminytro

5 жыл бұрын

A S exactly!

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

widesinder x I see you are the same smart. Really, learn about 4matic, watch other videos and you will understand what BS you write. By the way - I got confused, is it sponsored by Audi or Mercedes?

@remminytro

5 жыл бұрын

duszaniespokojna Take a hide..

@almighty9662

5 жыл бұрын

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers how rude u are and u want subs and views on ur videos we gonna report ur video asap

Pretty much the same. But a car is normally in motion and that's where it counts how the system works. What I know is, the 4-Matic goes very well on the beach in my ML. My Mitsubishi Triton 4WD had more problems even in low gear. We do not have snow here in Australia.

do a test with tesla, it could be interesting

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Wiktor Łuczak I don't think I will find a volunteer with Tesla in Poland...

Хонду надо

На 3:35 чёрный дымок у мерседеса

Hi not sure if your reading this or no but I'd like to say don't mind the comment section. Too many fanboys butthurt. I believe both cars did well. Merc doesn't allow a lot of throttle but the Audi does and this is what alot of people cannot understand. Both cars are good in thier own ways. Great video btw.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, thanks.

I didn't search for those spinning wheels

The trim of the cars are too far apart c200 to A6. Still would take Mercedes over a Audi anyday.

@Gizawar

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it should be E class vs A6 or C class vs A4

@andreaskretzinger6405

5 жыл бұрын

Why - the C-Class have the same AWD as the E-Class (45:55), the GLA, A, have an "hang-on" like "Haldex" from the Volkswagen/Audi

Applying more gas for the Audi 😂

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Nope. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html

2:48 4Matic and Quattro cannot send power individual wheels in the rear. SH-AWD claims it can send power to individual wheels in the rear. I'd like to see an comparison. There's an explanation to why 4Matic can't send power to individual wheels in the rear, it's design makes it lightweight, but still works great.

@martinsvensson6884

2 жыл бұрын

It can send power to any individual wheel.

Looking at the video, it looks like the Mercedes driver was always going easy on the gas pedal, while the Audi driver was pushing the gas a bit more, which makes it an unfair test. However, after reading the comments, the tester says that because the Mercedes ECU cuts the power at 1,000 RPMs, while Audi's ECU lets the revs go higher. If that's the case, then how about you give the viewers some type of visual clue as of the pressure applied on the gas pedal, and rpms maybe? This way, we can all witness that the drivers are applying the exact same pressure on the gas pedals, but each vehicle reacts differently by regulating the RPMs. We need something about that, otherwise, it really looks like it's not the same power applied on both cars.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

Idea is good, in fact there are some older videos with additional camera on speedometer & tachometer but here's another problem - we are always looking for optimum level of throttle: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lnqnkrGIhde2lag.html (speed range up to 30 km/h). This level is different in different cars, so within a minute we would get the comments that test is unfair cause throttle is not the same. Or why do we keep the car at 1000 rpm. So another camera needed on the foot. And another comments that the footage is fake and furthermore - driver is moving the steering wheel. So anyway I would have to expalin everything million times.

😍 Audi Quattro Allroad

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

LUMINITA GABRIELA FLOROIU HOSU Coming up in a few days!

QUATTRO rules

hi i don't know if you have done alredy but you should do a old mercedes awd vs new old like the w124 1985-1995 and new like that c model you had on this video or e model it would be nice to see how the 4matic has improved over the years.or maybe it has gotten worse ??

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Arppa Viuhko I would do such test with pleasure, it is all up to people who owns such cars, everybody is welcome for the test!

Intresting test. I did not belive this systems to be that bad. This was an eye opener for me.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Magnus Häggblad? Bad? What is bad here??

С класс с а 6 сравнивать😂😂😂

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

That is not comparison of cars, but of awd systems, which are the same in A4/A6 and C/E. Besides: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKWO2I98dq3eoco.html

Thats what i wona say why do you aply more gas at the audi.not fair

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Behar Peza Where do you see more gas at Audi?

@wwyk1993

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't apply more gas in the Audi, it's just the Mercedes cutting power due to loss of grip

I am surprised to see the Mercedes seemingly slow to react to the situation, considering they make Unimog.......maybe driver input?

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

5 жыл бұрын

Here are tests with different cars and different drivers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q5h-mtFxYc3WhqQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/hIeO2NeShdS0otI.html

To avoid these issues use an OBD reader and show on the screen the position of the throttle. That way everyone can see it’s the car making the decisions.

Benz the best.

@cocorico3341

5 жыл бұрын

Quattro the best!!!!

@reggiezhang2917

5 жыл бұрын

foolish

@edwindominguez2548

5 жыл бұрын

Lol but it failed

@MasonGeorge24

5 жыл бұрын

@@edwindominguez2548 LOL no.

@edwindominguez2548

5 жыл бұрын

@@MasonGeorge24 but the video cant lie bruh

На мерине водила не очень

@sellafieldz7957

5 жыл бұрын

Дилшод Ганиев а который на Ауди водила тебе понравился?

@Dilschod88

5 жыл бұрын

@@sellafieldz7957 водила на ауди более уверенно себя чувствует и газу больше даёт

@user-cm1fu9ty9l

5 жыл бұрын

Ауди из раскачки вышел

@user-hg7tz2hr5m

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dilschod88 да не водила даёт, а тачка позволяет крутить мотор. На меренге электроника просто душит мотор. Вполне возможно они в пол оба давили.

I think these roller tests are slightly unfair to the cars. Even though it doesn't seem like the tires are sunk down between the rollers, the angle of the rollers (diameter of them) and the space between them, and the fact they spin (obviously) will effect how much power is needed to pull the car out of the rollers and I think we are underestimating the amount of power needed to do this. I would be very interested to see some rollers that are like 4-6" diameter or even 16-24" (and single roller). The smaller rollers spaced as close as possible and mounted in a recessed floor - like a dyno setup. The 16-24" rollers would be setup like a dyno setup as well. This would be much more expensive to setup but it would provide a more real world test for driving conditions on a flat surface or even ice that has been slightly chewed away b/c spinning tires (especially the 2 4"-6" rollers would mimick this better). I have a suspicion that all these cars would pass these tests with only one wheel driving the car. I think there is much more power needed to get off the rollers in the video than people think, which is why in many of these tests, cars with higher power or much less weight do much better on the test.

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

If rollers were like you described then cars would be able to pass the test even on four rollers 🙂

The mercedes driver does not even press on the gas properly

@4x4.tests.on.rollers

4 жыл бұрын

He did everything correct. kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIqf27yDnNLeZLw.html