Slavoj Žižek - A reply to the idea of Gaia, mother nature, ...

"First, when you say, we are part of nature [...] Yes, we are part of nature, precisely when we are destroying nature ... and that's nature. Don't paint us as 'there is mother nature, uh, my god, we are violating mother nature. In our most destructive, we are part of nature."
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Slavoj Žižek: FOR A LEFT THAT DARES TO SPEAK ITS NAME - October 8, 2019
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  • @Gggorm
    @Gggorm3 жыл бұрын

    Unusually good from Zizek! Thanks for the video

  • @juanmontalvo3617
    @juanmontalvo36173 жыл бұрын

    I hate it when the more close-minded people ask questions. Žižek was as clear as one could be about how things like habitat rights can only be conceived of from a human perspective. That's why I don't like it when some environmentalists act as if they can step outside their human perspective and know exactly how plants and animals think. Besides the arrogance of such a position, I've found that some environmentalists will use this mother nature ideology to justify things with eugenicist undertones. That's also why I found that guy's spanking analogy to be inappropriate; he speaks as if the natural world intentionally punishes humanity but there's no way he can prove that.

  • @ismireghal68
    @ismireghal683 жыл бұрын

    Maybe one should when talking about climate crisis etc. differentiate between nature and the forces of nature. An asteroid is destructive, so is a volcano... If we see this as nature we are indeed most natural as zizek says, when eg. dropping an H-Bomb on planet earth. But no animal or plant would destroy it's surroundings like that, because it depends on its environment to function and so do we. Animate life is fragile and balanced and by advancing so much that we can create own food sources etc., thereby stepping out of the rules of living in balance with your environment, we became like a destructive force of nature but what we need is the opposite, the sustainable approach intended to preserve as much life as possible.

  • @walterramirezt

    @walterramirezt

    2 жыл бұрын

    Species extintion is the norm, and this happens when the different animal/plant species is no longer able to compete in their\ enviroment. The idea of a fragile balance is problematic because in "nature" change and precariusness is the norm. In the history of earth, things like the proliferation of bacteria that liberated oxygen into the atmosphere was the cause of one of the earths major life extintions. We can argue that we want to preserve life on earth because of human reasons but to argue that we are "going against nature" is a type of very problematic statements.

  • @ismireghal68

    @ismireghal68

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@walterramirezt how does that relate to my comment. Species extinction happens, but the "norm" is a bit far fetched. Again of course you could argue that in our extremely rapid destruction of lifespace and monoculturing plants, destroying species at a rapid rate, we are 'natural' like a comet or bacteria changing atmospheres structure, but we aren't 'natural' respective to the nature we grew up with/see in the wild still today