Slaughter in Shangri-la - The Invasion of Tibet (Episode 2)
This is the surprising story of the largely unknown British Invasion of Tibet, which was led by one of the 20th century's most famous explorers, Major Francis Younghusband.
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Recovering from surgery and bingeing Dr Felton. I am glad he is so productive because I have a lot of time. One thing I love about Mark is how unbiased his reporting . This was not a British glorious victory but a slaughter. This was not an attack of righteousness, but a strategic political land grab to strengthen British defences. There was no issue with Tibetans. And as part of the agreement British recognized China as the authority over Tibet, an acknowledgement that justified China's hold over Tibet with later repercussions. Poor Tibet would like to be left alone in its sovereignty but everyone wants a piece of her. And Britain once again does what is profitable for her empire, setting up agreements for other countries that set the foundation for unrest and future conflicts.
WHOOOOOO we have it. Hope everything is going well over there mark.
Oh man,.. I read about major Young husband's expedition in Tibet and him being a very good friend of our 1st king (The Trongsa Poenlop, stated in part 1) in my high school Bhutan history. Anyways, now I know why.... Thanks Dr. Felton!!!
@kardondo
3 жыл бұрын
You gotta admire the fact that Dr Felton is British, yet he provides original exact facts with no political correctness.
@LilStoops
3 жыл бұрын
@@kardondo what's more, if the "other side" is equally culpable then he doesn't hold back either. This is truly unbiased.
@Kaiserniv
3 жыл бұрын
yoooo what do ya gus learn in social studies in bhutan Nepalese social studies while intersting fails to capitalize in other subjects such as this
@Kaiserniv
3 жыл бұрын
@Leo Pard God forbid and bury my old gramatically and stupid comment what I was trying to ask was what kind of historical and socio-cultural stuff do they study in Bhutan in social studies as I was keen in hearing some Bhutanese speak as they and us are quite unknown and isolated in the international world Our subject of social studies while interesting to learn kind of fails to capitalize in these sort of events that involve us in some sort of degree. So I was anxious if this kind of behavior also occurs in Bhutan and also the Lhotshampa
@christopherdrekr1078
2 жыл бұрын
Kaiserniv No worries Tashi deleck You see my Tibetan isn't so good ;)
Very pleased to see that the history deniers have allowed you to finish. Bravo!
Thanks for re-uploading, Mark. I hope it stays up.
@lanahanbrian0
3 жыл бұрын
This was taken down, why?
@Zen-sx5io
3 жыл бұрын
@@lanahanbrian0 Yeah why? But we probably won't get an answer anyways 😔
@christopherdrekr1078
2 жыл бұрын
Politically incorrect god forbid the British entered Tibet before the communist chinese. They would have done far better under British protection but it wasn't to be.
@christopherdrekr1078
Жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson protection from the Chinese though. Seems small price. Occasional public order mishap rather than one huge one.
The BEST historian on the planet.
Thanks! Love your work Dr Felton.
Mark is on a roll today, ... rolling like H1tler's alligator.
@danielhammersley2869
3 жыл бұрын
More history than H1tler's 'gator t sink your teeth into! :) ;) :D
@rascallyrabbit717
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched that one yet --thanks
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
2 жыл бұрын
🐊🔃🐊🔄🐊
Got it. Thank You Mark 🇺🇸
Mark your videos and stories are amazing, I watch/listen to them religiously! I was very lucky to have visited the fortress at Gyantse via the Karola pass after leaving Lhasa. Both sites are breathtaking, pun intended due to the altitude, in their natural beauty and construction for the former. There are contemporary memorials for the fallen Tibetans in Gyantse central square. The people at Gyantse are hospitable and warm, and the view of the fortress perched on the rock rising above the Gyantse plain in the morning mist will stay with me forever. I could identify some of the places you describe. Cheers,
Well done on this. Really interesting piece.
Truly an interesting conflict I can only imagine how tough those men were , always them Gurkhas especially going above and beyond.
Thank you Mr Felton to let us know the real history about Tibet.
Oh yes! Another interesting video and a new one on tibet!
Fantastic channel you have here I just jointed the channel last month and I enjoyed every episode you put out great job.
This was a one sided fight. It was simply a murderous expedition.
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect
6 ай бұрын
There was no justification for this expedition at all.
Only ten minutes??? I feel a bit cheated after the earlier episode was ~35 minutes. ... Great work as always, Dr. Felton!
My Top 5 British made Serials: 5. Fawlty Towers 4. Dad's Army 3. Peep Show 2. Monty Python 1. Mark Felton Productions
@rascallyrabbit717
3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen Dad's Army also there was a movie in 2016 I think
@danielb7117
3 жыл бұрын
@@rascallyrabbit717 you oughta watch the original series and old spin-off movie, My Friend. It's funny as shit, haha. As for the 2016 movie, I've yet to see it myself, but I'd like to in order to compare, Cheers Amigo.
@MrHaveaword
3 жыл бұрын
Only fools at number 6?
@MrHaveaword
3 жыл бұрын
Also, let's not forget the Office
@danielb7117
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHaveaword On The Buses, weren't bad neither. As was Blackadder. Hell, I found the I.T. Crowd funny as Fuck too.
Thank you so much your vids get me through the work day
Wasn't there a Younghusband involved in either the Boer or Zulu wars? That name sounds so familiar. Or perhaps it was someone who found the colors in Fugitive's Drift??
Such an interesting time period for the British Empire. Have you considered doing a piece about the Second Anglo-Boer War?
Dude I love your vids. Can I ask from where you get this kind of information to make vids? Greetings from Argentina
hey mark i just watch a netflix documentary called "hitler steal beast" and i was so excited to see you in it! You are a really intelligent man and know your history! keep up the good work
You produce some outstanding product Thank you
Dr Felton, I have a distant friend whose day job was a major in the British army and led a Chieftain tank squadron on the Cold War front in West Germany. He also spoke Arabic and was the British Government army representative to the Sultan of Oman during the 1970s. He told me how the British government deployed many special forces there initially as trainers and advisors to see off a communist backed terrorist war. Then as it intensified our forces were in serious action there. There was a secret proxy war and its one that still remains largely unknown and even less known that it proved a success in rebuffing plans to pull down the Shah who supported western interests. Perhaps there is a story here for you to tell, if you can gain access to the information?
Always interesting, thank you.
So early it was Episode 1 a second time ;)
Fantastic work; Boer War next?
Mark felton is criminally undersubscribed
Well done as usual. However I couldn't help but be disgusted by the whole damned operation and invasion. There may have been bravery, courage, and tenacity among these British Empire troops, but there was no glory as far as I am concerned. For shame. At least these Tibetan victims had some matchlock muskets and not just spears.
@oliver8928
3 жыл бұрын
Alas that is why the story must be told. It is often surprising and shocking how recently man's wars of conquest against eachother ceased in most parts of the world - and actually continue in others. We are very lucky to have our current international institutions, the alternatives are not so distant in time and brutality.
@hisdadjames4876
3 жыл бұрын
I’m equally guilt-ridden by association with Britain’s self-interested imperialism, shown here near its worst only 100-odd years ago. I suspect that history will eventually judge with similar severity the various ‘oil wars’ and Middle East interventions that Britain engages in today, albeit in a new role of lackey state to its successor as (at the very least) economic and cultural imperialist, the USA.
@justbrowsing6327
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, there was no honour in this.!
Fascinating but brief story of Younghusband and the expedition to Tibet. Worth reading more on the subject if you are interested in it.
Ok off to google to get the background on this fine Dr Felton narrative
Thanks Dr Felton... You're my only historical ( go to guy....)
Thanks
Friday Dr Felton doubles! Mountains of fun!
Brilliant. I see the odd place we are vis a vis china and Tibet today
Please do a piece on the Anglo Manipuri War of 1890.
Fun fact the Himalayan peoples are the only known living descendants of the Denisovan people.
Would love to see a video on the battle of Kasserine Pass! Please! 😃
First, does it keep getting taken down?
@kardondo
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately
Cool
Reupload?
Who is rooting for the tibetians?
@dobypilgrim6160
3 жыл бұрын
I am. I always root for those beautiful people.
@slojogojo2766
3 жыл бұрын
Tibet had a cruel feudal system serfdom at that time and they often totured their serfs even making tambourines or drums out of the skins of the dead serfs gouging out their eyes, chopping of limbs, even the people of Taiwan don't say much of the occupation of the CCP in Tibet I never cared for the Imperialist British Empire, but if it was to free the people of Tibet I am all for it. Feudel Serfdom and Communism is on the same level as far as I am concerned!
@matthewct8167
3 жыл бұрын
Slo jo Go jo by that logic we should invade countries like Pakistan.
@tomfrazier1103
3 жыл бұрын
But we don't often, due to random reasons in British India. For American Conservatives, we seem beyond Bushian Regime Change already. Making the World a Perfect Place is fool's errand most often pursued by followers of Karl Marx.
@williammerkel1410
7 ай бұрын
Although the British clearly instigated the start of hostilities, it was the Tibetan authorities unwillingness to communicate effectively or at all that made it as protracted and bloody as it was.
Thanks. Brilliant from one so ignorant. Have you done anything on the boar wars
Tibet: We are soldiers following the holy dictates of a living god. Britain: We have Sikhs AND Ghurkas.
@Zen-sx5io
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty much 😂
@rangoman1815
2 жыл бұрын
@@walangchahangyelingden8252 Being Buddhists didn't matter since the Tibetans then and now consider other ethnicities as inferior or lower caste people and are violently discriminated...marriage with outsiders still is considered as one of the most dishonourable within Tibetans living in India, Bhutan and Nepal...also the massive rift between the followers of Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden...the serfdom that forced lower caste Tibetans and many Nepalis abductees for lifelong servitude in horrendous conditions made Tibet Shangri-La for the feudal lords but a hell hole for most of the lower rungs of society. The very reason China justifies their invasion of Tibet still now.
@milkandbread1279
Жыл бұрын
Gorkhas are still used by both indian n british to guard their entrance for some among of money but still nepal is poor n weak country.. Poor nepali
I see there's a typing error on Wikipedia it says 30 September 1944 I must look up this campaign and hopefully the history of this regeneration
Ahoy!
after any conflict/war the victor writes the history not the vanquished So there for Dr Felton can only go on the information written down from the past or first hand if you have people still alive to talk to
@59patrickw
Жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson That is just one war in mankind's history of war and conflict
Younghusband has to be the most British surname EV ER!:-) 🖖
@oneshothunter9877
3 жыл бұрын
No! "English" must be top-english. No?
Tibet was and Must Be Independent Now
@marlarki5280
3 жыл бұрын
No
@oneshothunter9877
3 жыл бұрын
Impossible mission without the support of the rest of the World.
It said 999 thumbs up which really annoyed me so I had to make it 1k.
Like the kinks song shangri la
Why ? What had they done. ? What is the point !
And everyone says America is a bunch of bastards , but yet we didn’t wage this kind of war during this time period
@WarStorieswithMarkFelton
3 жыл бұрын
No, you learned how to by watching us doing it in the 17th-early 20th centuries!
@jdb47games
3 жыл бұрын
Yes you did, in The Philippines.
@jeffblacky
3 жыл бұрын
@@jdb47games the Moros needed a ass kicking.
@littlefluffybushbaby7256
2 жыл бұрын
Tell that to the Native Americans, Spanish, Mexicans, Cubans, Hawaiians, Filipinos, etc. Plus about two thirds of the USA was bought or taken from other empires without consultation with those that lived there. The US has been just as imperial as Russia or the European Empires except, in the case of the European Empires the people got their land back and there were still some of them alive. Not quite the case with the USA. What is now the USA was not just empty space. I'm not getting at the USA. It's no better nor any worse than many other regimes that have existed. It's critisized because it's currently top dog. Most (though not all) countries or regions on the planet have had an empire at some point in their history and have thrown their weight around when given a chance. There have been empires in every continent except Antarctica. Much of the planet is occupied by people who migrated to the area from elsewhere often displacing those already there (ask the Neanderthals). Even what are now some of the smallest most peace-loving places on the planet often have a period in their past where they were not. Invading and subjugating people is more determined by geography, demographics, technology, and politics than by whether people are nice or not. It's all just a matter of how much you are willing to dig in to the history. People usually only go as far back in as needed to prove their existing prejudices because to go back further makes the story more complex and harder to make a "white hat black hat" case.
@jeffblacky
Жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson which they should have did more - pfftt thaw
Maxim guns and Martin Henry repeaters against matchlocks and thrown rocks, this after invading Tibet in response to a yak invasion. Bravely done.
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect
6 ай бұрын
Using yaks as an excuse to retaliate.
This is a battke between the Middle age army vs modern army .
Is it me, or did the British just waist their time and lives with that invasion? They really didn't get anything that was already theirs as far as i can tell.
@Dave_Sisson
3 жыл бұрын
The Younghusband expedition had two main goals. The first was to keep the Russian Empire away from India by ensuring that Tibet remained a buffer state. The second was to open up trade and diplomacy. So it succeeded in both objectives.
Why were the British doing this so far from home?
@onshisan
3 жыл бұрын
Because India was “theirs”, and Tibet is in the neighbourhood. But mostly because a class of imperial military administrators had the ability to launch such “adventures” with considerable latitude in an era when transportation and communication between London and the far-flung reaches of the empire were still poor enough that they could operate somewhat independently.
@oneshothunter9877
3 жыл бұрын
The Australian aboriginals looking strangely at you: what do you mean by "so far from home?"
So what was the point of all this. “spent time intimidating them”? All for a ransom that was not paid?
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
2 жыл бұрын
More important was the insuring that Tibet had no diplomatic relations with Russia.
Interesting that once again the world is left to deal with the aftermath left by the British. What would Chinese claims be like today if the British had not weakened the Tibetan government so that a strong China could get a better foothold on something that did not belong to them. Not that the Llama were some kindly government, but at least they were governing their own people. I applaud the courage of the foot soldier and am aghast by poor decisions of foreign powers dictating terms to others through force of arms.
"slaughter" more like some small high altitude battles. By the title it sounds like the Brits had unleashed wanton murder or some defenseless civilians.
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
2 жыл бұрын
I think the slaughter is mainly referring to the huge casualties of the under-equipped Tibetan troops.
@10_rds_Fire_For_Effect
6 ай бұрын
The British were desperately looking for a pretext to wage war against Tibet. So they used an invasion by Tibetan Yaks, which are native to the region, as their excuse. If the yaks hadn't conveniently been there, they'd have used a flock of wild birds as an excuse. One of the darker more shameful episodes of British history. Nothing there to be proud of. The VC won by a British officer was totally undeserved.
The British are coming! Dalai Lama: *Build a wall!*
Slaughter is the right word! That must have been something to be part of…on the British side of course!
well seeing as how you're covering the stuff, they don't teach in school how about the treaty of Veronia 1822. or the filibuster militias from the southern united states.
When you have to leave Tibet to hide in outer Mongolia....
British had Maxim guns while the enemy threw rocks. Thats basically the summary of british imperial conquests
@ADVtheMISSIONARY
3 жыл бұрын
the boer laughs in Dutch
@jdb47games
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the French and Spanish threw rocks, didn't they.
Lol they seriously took it over then gave it away to the Chinese
Well this tale left me so disgusted I stopped listening on the first episode
What about what Mao and the Communists did to Tibet! I am sure the Maoists will be pleased by this video!
@lapensulo4684
Жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson What?????? You made no sense!!
@lapensulo4684
Жыл бұрын
@Meme Memeson It only means what you want it to mean. It has multiple and a very vague meaning. You need to be more precise in your thinking.
Wtf is this channel? Get your own content.
Folksy story glorifing the great British Empire. Honor? What makes anyone today believe they had any right to be there? cheers
@archstanton6102
3 жыл бұрын
Where does it glorify the British actions? It makes them look foolish and petty for trying to conquer these people.
@WarStorieswithMarkFelton
3 жыл бұрын
Quite so - 'steve i2000' is completely missing the point of the story, where I show, by the actions of Younghusband, what the British were up to. Some people have ears, but will not listen.
@TRUMP_WAS_RIGHT_ABOUT_EVRYTHNG
3 жыл бұрын
@@WarStorieswithMarkFelton as I read your reply, it was your voice in my head . you are that good ! Kudos Dr.
One can tell Felton is biased against the British by this video.
@WarStorieswithMarkFelton
3 жыл бұрын
Don't be a twat - I simply recount what happened.
@lapensulo4684
3 жыл бұрын
War Stories with Mark Felton No you are not correct here; nobody simply recounts what happened. You make decisions as to what to leave in, take out, emphasize, de-emphasize. All historians interpret past events.