"....A third man was found dead LODGED IN THE CEILING..." Odd statement with no explanation given. The guy was standing on top of the reactor trying to force the control rods down when a pressure build up inside the reactor explosively ejected the rods, which impaled this poor guy on the ceiling of the building. Funny how they didn't mention that.

@sakibear4478

3 жыл бұрын

Lodged sounds less scary than impaled. Though this facility was for remote stations, the operators were still promoting civilian N. P's . Arco Idaho is the nearest town. Prototypes for a proposed Nuke powered airplane engines located at a plant where a 'self guided' tour of the first plant that provided electricity in December 1951 for Arco, Idaho

@highcat2046

2 жыл бұрын

Other way around. Legg was trying to withdraw rod 9 to cold start the reactor. His limit was 4 inches, and he yanked it. Shit went prompt critical from there and blasted his soul into space.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

Once upon a time, grisly details were kept to a minimum, out of respect. Nowadays no one gives a sh*t.

@ph4nt0m22

2 жыл бұрын

you have no clue of what you are talking about. Legg was trying to withdraw Rod 9 by about 4 inches, but the rod got stuck, when he applied more force it got past those 4 inches limit and blew.

@RussellRW

2 жыл бұрын

As if you're going to be found ALIVE "lodged in the ceiling"

The entrance road off Hwy. 20 is still there, closed by a gate and flanked by warning signs. The power poles still stand on the bluff around the site and are visible from the highway.

@TomKappeln

3 жыл бұрын

Wow !

When I was in Nuclear Power School in the Navy, after 24 weeks of classroom work, we had a comp exam 4 hours long. While we waited for our results to be posted, we watched this film. Everybody who graduated NPS went on to prototype training either in CT or here in Idaho. Those going to ID were the butt of jokes about sailors and sheep (you read between the lines) and when the scene with the sheep came on around 39:30, the room erupted with laughter and calls of "there's your girlfriends for the next 6 months."

@deenasmusicbox

Жыл бұрын

When were you active duty?

@glenlongstreet7

3 ай бұрын

Me too. 1976 in Windsor Locks CT, S1C. Did you know that a second unit was installed in Greenland under the Ice? It was eventually supposed to be installed in a container that could be delivered to the army anywhere in the world.

One small mistake for a man, one giant leap for the boss in the ceiling…

Saw this film 35 years ago as a Navy trainee in Idaho

@scottallsebrooke2310

4 жыл бұрын

I went through prototype training there in '78.

@thetreblerebel

3 жыл бұрын

Work in a reactor on a boat did ya? I thinks it's awesome! And horrifying!! It's the part nobody without clearance has ever seen. I bet stuff is way different than it was then and 35 years ago when you served

@lookingforonetruechristian7396

3 жыл бұрын

Did prototype training in NY but saw this film too. One thing I can say about SL-1 is someone fu*ked up. Nuclear power + someone fu*king up = shitty outcome.

@absolutely1337

3 жыл бұрын

Bet you fellas seen a lot of propaganda films. Eh?

@Mercmad

3 жыл бұрын

@@lookingforonetruechristian7396 Chernobyl being the prime example.

Mr Potato Head was born in Idaho 1961

The music is so over the top... surreal... like a 50's monster movie for real

@stevensparks8202

3 жыл бұрын

Or at times Father Knows Best, and Leave It To Beaver.

In the 1970’s at the Navy Nuclear Power School in Bainbridge MD all students were shown this film as a case study. It was an eye-opener.

@edwardpate6128

Жыл бұрын

They still showed it in 1981.

@debblooth3490

Жыл бұрын

@@edwardpate6128 Did it in 1996

@c.c.4167

5 ай бұрын

​@@debblooth3490 They still show this as part of the curriculum, even to today. Saw this video just a couple months ago in power school

It went Super-critical in 3.6 milliseconds, and they estimated it took 7.5 milliseconds to reach a momentary output of 20 Gigawatts, this far exceeded its design limit. It was only designed for 4 Megawatts.

@PeterMilanovski

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm interesting now where in Chernobyl have I heard that before?

@busybillyb33

Жыл бұрын

3.6 milliseconds. Not great, not terrible.

@PBeringer

Жыл бұрын

Those figures in all criticality accidents just blow my mind.

@-UNKNOWN-13

5 ай бұрын

If I recall correctly it was designed for 3MW and they were testing its capability to run at 4.7MW. It peaked at 2,000 times its designed threshold. The actual criticality only took 2-4 milliseconds after the rod was withdrawn over the 4 inch limit. After examining the rod it was estimated to have been moved 20 inches resulting in an explosive reaction equaling 35 kilograms of tnt.

Proper diction, enhanced vocabulary and profanity-free communication is vital for non-bias, conclusive and definitive scientific information and ideas.

@toadinthehole8085

3 жыл бұрын

Fucking A

@mrfriz4091

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, so true!

@mattropolis99

3 жыл бұрын

Saying that makes you a racist to the modern left

@randb4865

3 жыл бұрын

Used to be, anyway.

@billflynn6903

3 жыл бұрын

Could do without the Smash Hit Music background.

One small mistake and the boss hits the ceiling.

@busybillyb33

Жыл бұрын

One small mistake by man. One giant leap for bossman.

Tyvm 4 upload.

Legg, the third victim, was impaled by the rod, into his groin and out of the shoulder..and was pinned to the ceiling by the rod.

@donbrashsux

4 жыл бұрын

The blown rod was travelling at 27 metres per second..that’s crazy

@joedicks5728

3 жыл бұрын

What i didnt not know that

@sw8741

3 жыл бұрын

Yup, and he was the one on top of the reactor who was manually moving the control rod and apparently moved it too far out of the reactor causing the uncontrolled reaction and explosion. Had to be a very gruesome sight.

@gribbedt

2 жыл бұрын

And then he melted from radiation.

@adamjhuber

Жыл бұрын

@@donbrashsux 27 meters per second is about 60MPH. Not bullet speed but still has to hurt.

Quite amazing that the containment building wasn't compromised. Definitely prevented a larger release of radioactive material into the environment

@howardshubs7157

4 жыл бұрын

It wasn't a containment building if I understand the video and the Wikipedia article. It was just where the reactor was. These days, there'd be a containment building constructed around it.

@xapplimatic

3 жыл бұрын

Gee I dont' know, breaking in from the outside so a crane can ram a steel pole in with a video camera right over the control rods and a stretcher to retrieve a body skewered to the ceiling KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE THE BUILDING WAS COMPROMISED TO ME. :P

@gorillaau

3 жыл бұрын

@@howardshubs7157 Yes, as the reactor was experimental and not powered all the time, a concrete containment building was not required. The building holding the SL-1 gave little more protection than a garden shed.

Always thought this was one of the more interesting nuclear-power incidents. When I was in that region, I drove down highway 20 and meandered around a bit outside Atomic City. There is (according to the locals) fenced-in areas with AEC warning signs still.

@bullnukeoldman3794

3 жыл бұрын

The site of SL-1 is about 1/2 mile north of US 20 on Fillmore Blvd., about 2.5 to 3 miles east of the US 20/US26 intersection. When I worked on the NRTS in the early '70s there were still contaminated dump trucks from the SL-1 cleanup being used on the various sites of the station.

@widescreennavel

2 жыл бұрын

What did we learn? Ice is good for getting radiation off dead bodies, and that the operators must have lifted an inconceivable weight and blown themselves up.

@budneese3852

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was a navy nuke trainee, our bus went past the site. Saw the training film, understood what happened. It was a warning what could happen to any of us.

@-UNKNOWN-13

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@widescreennavelthe simulated weight was only 80lbs. They stated one man could move it on his own.

Rest in peace Shipmate Richard Legg.

Very interesting. Thanks for the upload

Love the sweet orchestral music contrasting the gruesome facts of the Army’s reckless nuclear accident.

You just have to love the calm music playing throughout this film. Meanwhile they are talking about uncontrolled nuclear chain reactions, recovering bodies, and a deceased man LODGED in the freaking ceiling. The worst part is that it worked so well that its gotten to the point where the government doesn't even put this kind of effort in these days. The US population is so damn ignorant. It makes me sad.

@whirledpeas3477

Жыл бұрын

You didn't tell us about your pronouns?

@tuffy1124

9 ай бұрын

Great assessment So true

@cmerton

8 ай бұрын

So, basically you object to the music chosen for the video. Got it. And then you move immediately to the "worst part" but never say what it was, but tell us "it worked so well" and then blame the government? I'll bet you are REALLY looking forward to puberty.

I love the cheery, patriotic musical accompaniment.

@KylesDigitalLab

Жыл бұрын

It's overly dramatic...

The entire reactor vessel was presumed to have moved upwards 9ft at a speed of 85fps. The operator pinned to the ceiling was impaled starting in the groin and exiting around the shoulder.

300mr/hr on contact of the coffin...with shielding! That's insane

That old IBM computer.

The good thing about the SL-1 event was no coverup. Everyone was well-informed, and the public was kept in the loop. Fortunately, the radiation contamination did not extend outside the AEC sites. The sad part was the loss of life.

@mybossisdrunk

Жыл бұрын

Are you serious?

@TomKappeln

11 ай бұрын

A reactor where a PERSON has to lift a HIGHLY reactive rod by hand ? Think again !

@Nighthawke70

11 ай бұрын

@TomKappeln It was designed as a portable reactor system. It could put into an intermodal container, flown or transported to its destination without special equipment, set up by personnel with a minimal amount of training, and operated in semi primitive locations without special equipment.

@TomKappeln

11 ай бұрын

@@Nighthawke70 : I know the facts ... Does not change the fact that a PERSON could not safe pull a rod up to 4,5 inches. Even a hydraulic HANDPUMP would do better ! Come on ...

@Nighthawke70

11 ай бұрын

@@TomKappeln Back then they didn't know a thing about prompt criticality. They assumed the reaction would merely rise in power, not jump to the point where there would be death and destruction. It's sad to say that it took three bad accidents, SL-1 on our side, the Soviet's had Chernobyl #4 and K-431 After SL-1, ALL reactors, research and production types, were designed with multiple defenses to prevent or control (in research) prompt criticality in the US. The Soviet's didn't learn their lessons until Chernobyl.

During the Winscale fire in Cumbria I was a child living in Carlisle. Oh what jolly fun........!

@PeterMilanovski

3 жыл бұрын

You didn't see any fire because it was not there! LoL. That might have been a Russian quote but I think that it would have been no different there too!

@nightwaves3203

3 жыл бұрын

Winscale was when England was struggling to make tritium for a bomb before the treaty banning testing. You can easily figure out the large scrubber tower was designed to catch the tritium more than stop other radiation. Thus the reason they repeatedly super heated the core to make more tritium. It worked and they blew the bomb off.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

Leave it to the Brits to design an air-cooled reactor. Complete insanity.

I was in class 64-2 Gold Crew, Bainbridge, and I remember this. I went to D1G prototype, upstate, New York, but some of my classmates went to Idaho.

"Hey Jim, don't you think we need to put a mechanical limiter on the control rod to keep it from being removed too far?" "Nah, what idiot would do that".................

@cremebrulee4759

2 ай бұрын

Or, "We've performed this procedure 10 times, and that didn't happen.".

If I close my eyes it's like listening to "The Creature from the Black Lagoon".

@Nacho-Mamma

3 жыл бұрын

HEY NOW! Don't go insulting that movie! It's not a stupid as the nuclear regulatory commission! Well, maybe part 3 "The Creature Walks Among Us". Because, that movie was even more stupid that "The Stupids" with Roseanne and Tom Arnold!

@NavyVet4955

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nacho-Mamma can’t necessarily call them stupid. Much of this was experimental back in the day and they were always learning. Things like this happen throughout history with new tech. Think of all the people electrocuted when electricity first hit homes. People use to have electric tablecloth’s that they could plug stuff into by piercing it 😂. Thankfully today’s nuclear industry and equipment is much safer.

@JeffMTX

3 ай бұрын

Or war of the worlds orig broadcast

The music beginning at 9:15 on this video was used on the Superman TV series in the late 50s. I am not kidding. 🎵🎵👍👍

The guy at the start of the video looked like my uncle. I really miss that old dude.

"Lodged in the ceiling" Sorry sir you pronounced "Impaled through the damn groin by a shield plug and THEN lodged in the ceiling" wrong

Wow! Impaled on a control rod into the ceiling! What a way to go.

@gkess7106

6 жыл бұрын

I thought it was the ceiling of the reactor lid, not the building.

@daleburrell6273

5 жыл бұрын

@@gkess7106 WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES THAT MAKE?!!

@siah7590

4 жыл бұрын

They should make the rods dull so next time it won't get stuck!!

@howardshubs7157

4 жыл бұрын

@Bunker Sieben All three of them were, no?

@howardshubs7157

4 жыл бұрын

@Bunker Sieben Then why did they line the coffins with lead?

Who else finds that background music soothing?

@ChrisGurin

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of old Brittanica films they used to show us in 4th-grade social studies classes (until the Bell and Howell projector started that stuttering thing.)

Another good one!

Yes, people really did talk that way back then. In those days, diction was everything.

@eighteeee

6 жыл бұрын

Haha you said Dick- tion My maturity escapes me. Jokes aside, the age where men SOUNDED DRESSED AND ACTED like men. Time for another single malt and a cigar.

@nigelft

6 жыл бұрын

Willy Wanker Make mine three fingers of Dalwhinnie 25yr old, with just a splash of chilled, spring, water, and a Fuente Fuente OpusX Perfecxion #2 ...

@dwarnermg

5 жыл бұрын

It's called "trans-Atlantic " they actually used to push it in schools was an attempt to make us Americans sound "less trashy" my Grandma used to talk like this

@johnklar5131

4 жыл бұрын

These days it seems we are a society packed with uneducated people who think saying things such as "me and friend" is proper.

@Ken-lp9qt

4 жыл бұрын

John Klar A lot of that in the urban areas.

The music and the very sterile narration takes this way beyond creepy. It's insanity on a level I can't comprehend.

@LordZontar

3 жыл бұрын

On the other hand, that music might have made the Chernobyl miniseries a cheerier yet more surreal viewing experience.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

The film exists to tell you what happened. It's not a piece of propaganda to sell you on a social or political message.

@skivvy3565

Ай бұрын

But it doesn’t tell you what happened? What caused the accident. And the music is obviously to set a docile tone while talking about meltdowns and death and human error

Let me get this right - they hired a company named “Combustion Engineering” to operate a nuclear reactor? How’d that work out? ☹️

@Musicman81Indy

3 жыл бұрын

That would be like going to a dentist called "Dr Payne". Or a surgeon named Dr Slaughter". Yeah....umm....I'll pass, thank you very much.

@Astinsan

3 жыл бұрын

Or have your nest egg in the control of mr made-off

@lawnmowermanTX

3 жыл бұрын

I can 'imagine' a few choice words......... Or did we become brain-dead? lol

@daleburrell6273

3 жыл бұрын

...you're forgetting that nuclear energy was not very advanced yet, and maybe that was the most suitable company available at that time?

@daleburrell6273

3 жыл бұрын

@@Musicman81Indy ...one time I saw a TV advertisement with a "Dr. Butcher"-(!)

Interesting Pioneer job

I love these old videos.

They should stagger shifts in these plants. Every hour or two, an employee comes in to relieve whomever was there for the last 8 or whatever. That way, you don't have the sudden shift change that is responsible for so many mishaps.

@stevensparks8202

3 жыл бұрын

Shift changes every hour or two would cause far to many work stoppages. Supervisors would have to debrief the outgoing worker, then brief the new worker. All done face to face and on written logs. Modern nuclear workers are on 8 hour, but many times 12 hour shifts. This can add up to over a thousand hours of overtime in a year.

So what caused the accident? What were the operators doing at the time of the accident? To describe the aftermath but not the cause is wholly unsatisfactory.

@waynecoulter6761

3 жыл бұрын

The reactor had been shut down over the Christmas Holiday. Legg, Byrnes and McKinley were tasked with reconnecting the control rods to the mechanical and electrical lift devices. Keep in mind, these were trainees, none of which should have been attempting this operation without certified supervision. It is this fact that is the first and most glaring mistake by Combustion Engineering (CE) and the military staff who were in charge of that reactor. The final report states that the split responsibility between the Military and CE caused a lot of the issues because no one was willing to take responsibility for anything. As a result, safety measures were lax or non existent. Both Legg and Byrnes were known to have hair trigger tempers. One was known for challenging people to wrestling matches or fights while on duty and the other was a notorious prankster, shutting off cooling fans for equipment until alarms went off and other 'jokes'. Legg, who was in charge that night and Byrnes, who resented Legg for surpassing him to crew lead, were known to have had issues with each other and had come to physical blows on one occasion. McKinley was the true victim in all of this... he was a new trainee who really shouldn't have been on this crew with his level of experience. According to the procedure, the center rod was only supposed to have been lifted no more than four inches to attach it to the lift mechanisms. In the post accident investigation they found that the rod had been pulled out 21 inches IIRC. Byrnes, who was looking at divorcing his wife, was the man lifting that rod. Only God knows what happened that night... With the control rods losing the boron cladding, making the rods stick and giving them a changing level of control over the reactor, two loose cannons out of the three men on that shift that night, a cranky reactor that everyone knew had dangerous issues with it... it basically was a disaster waiting to happen.

@ticklemeandillhurtyou5800

3 жыл бұрын

@@waynecoulter6761 so basically it was human error there was nothing wrong with the reactor as usual

@waynecoulter6761

3 жыл бұрын

@@ticklemeandillhurtyou5800 No... The reactor had a major design flaw... you could drive the reactor prompt critical by withdrawing ONE rod. No reactor before and none since have been designed that way for the very reason shown in this video. Only God knows what happened for sure that night... Whether it was deliberate, or a stuck rod that suddenly broke loose, NO reactor should ever have been designed with the ability to co critical by withdrawing ONE rod. This reactor had a mess of problems that were known to CE and the military. They were trying to limp the reactor through till spring when it was planned to replace the fuel and control rods.

@ticklemeandillhurtyou5800

3 жыл бұрын

@@waynecoulter6761 you have an interesting argument carry on

@waynecoulter6761

3 жыл бұрын

@@ticklemeandillhurtyou5800 Read the Book Idaho Falls by William McKeown... The accident is described in detail, as is the problem with the reactor and the aftermath of the accident.

Love the soundtrack

A terrible thing to have happen…but I think it’s really interesting to see the use of computers as well as women working in this field at this time in history.

And to ease the sting: Some cheeful background music.

man id love to have that 58 wagon/nomad!

@mariekatherine5238

3 жыл бұрын

We had one very similar.

@stillraven9415

Жыл бұрын

I was looking at the panel truck.

I still feel like this was sanitized, not on the level of “oh the deaths where of xyz gossip for their motivation” but the extent of the injuries suffered during the excursion, and the fact that the reactor relied on a single control rod for reactivity and shutdown.

@JimAllen-Persona

Жыл бұрын

This was sanitized big time. I read a couple of books on it… put simply, the Army and the contractor screwed up big time and then tried to blame the “love triangle”. If they had borrowed some of Rickover’s people or Rickover was actually in charge this never would’ve happened. But you know inter-service rivalry. Rickover might have been a bit of a prick to people but he was smart and arrogant enough to make sure things were done right.

I love the happy uplifting music. Reminds me of nuclear accidents of yesteryear.... Truly a better time. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

22:11 early design of the flux capacitor

"Combustion Engineering" is a spooky name for reactor operating contractor when you think about it :-)

@mariekatherine5238

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, Jay! My grandfather, Leo M. was the VP of Combustion Engineering and would have been directly involved in this incident. My father could have been there, but wasn’t because he decided to stay in the US Navy. He’d just been promoted to Chief Petty Officer. Funny, but seeing the govt. issue chairs, tables, consoles, guard booths, film badges...I could actually “smell” the place in my mind’s eye. Dad later worked on civilian contract with the AEC at another research lab. He’s 98 and has health problems, but cancer isn’t one of them. Nobody knows why given his extensive exposure to radiation.

@hithere7382

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariekatherine5238 Radiation is weird in that it affects some people more than others. Cheers to your Grandfather!

@cremebrulee4759

2 ай бұрын

The company name probably was appropriate when they started in business. When they branched into nuclear, they just didn't change the company name.

Best comment here! I totally agree, very creepy.

Man, this leaves out so many details.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

Many details would have been classified at the time this was originally made.

@Landrar

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneralJackRipper this was originally made as a training video, so details are important. The people who this was made for would have had clearance and a need to know.

Nice background music 🎶

I feel, all of my SL1 attempts have ended in failure

This is like watching a Sci-Fi movie from the ’60s!

Disney called and they want the soundtrack back!

The rescue operation was pretty basic and I one could expect quite a few of the people concerned in the recovery getting sick years on from this.

@thetreblerebel

3 жыл бұрын

Oh...I'm sure cancer struck down a few of these brave men. Hazardous doesn't begin to describe the incident and clean up.

@lagrangepoint1184

3 жыл бұрын

You might be surprised. Operations like this spread brief exposure among many responders rather than hitting a few with a high dose. I doubt any experienced any adverse effects at all. I mean, the guys who threw chunks of highly radioactive graphite core elements off the roof and back into the open, exposed, and actively melting reactor core at Chernobyl all survived and many are still alive - even those guys who went diving in contaminated water to open the drainage valves lived. People are terrified of nuclear power because the same stuff is used in bombs, which is too bad because it's cheaper and more environmentally sound than most other sources. Everyone freaked out about Three Mile Island (which in the end was a public health non-event) which, combined with the poorly (or perfectly, if you're the studio) timing of the release of "The China Syndrome," pretty much destroyed US nuclear power.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

The radsafe people know what they're doing.

@ncrawford1488

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt anyone else got sick. The military understood the dangers of radiation by this point. I don’t understand why people like you always assume the worst when it comes to nuclear power? Do you not understand it? I’m not saying you’re one of these people, but maybe 25%-30% of Americans want us to be driving electric cars. I live in Texas and my girlfriend lives in California. We are lucky enough to be able to afford ANY mode of transportation we want- if I want a McLaren or Rolls Royce, it is only about how happy it makes me. If she wants one business jet over another, that’s her choice. I just can’t understand for the life of me the electric car people who are also anti nuclear… I don’t even want to engage those people. Here in west Texas, since Biden took office, Natural Gas is actually a liability! How crazy is that? It can’t be harmlessly cooked off anymore, and Sleepy Joe thinks pipes are evil, so this stuff has to trucked. It is nearly as retarded as he is. We could be completely energy independent for hundreds of years, but you know what natural gas’ problem is? It has the name gas in it. If Elon Musk packaged it as “Natural ‘Stoned’ Power Air,” he’d be even wealthier and his company might have a chance of surviving.

The extraordinarily incongruous background music is quite disturbing!

@suetownsend1656

3 жыл бұрын

It's peculiarly inappropriate. Tra la la ... chap skewered to ceiling ... tiddly pom.

Crazy stuff.

Since it was the first to ever occur, no one involved had a clue as to what they were doing. They drained all the coolant and the reactor melted down. Those poor techs thought they were flushing a radiator on a car. They paid for it with their lives. I noticed this film sure played that down. I'm sure it's still just as hot as the day the accident happened.

'58 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery '59 Chevrolet two door wagon

Thought this was about 3 mile island .Well now 1961. Never knew til NOW.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

No one died at Three Mile Island.

I recall being told about an incident at a power station in the UK, a turbine or similar left it’s mountings and entered the next room. His comment “geeze... the paperwork”...

@Mercmad

3 жыл бұрын

And look who the owner was.... paperwork between lawyers must have been of epic proportions. www.power-eng.com/gas/third-man-dies-following-uk-power-plant-explosion/

@darylcheshire1618

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mercmad I was referring to an earlier incident, sometime in the '70s.

"lodged in a ceiling" poor guy

The music and narration is reminiscent of old Disney nature films, I think from the same time this film was made.

@KylesDigitalLab

Жыл бұрын

It's stock music.

The Army is now considering utilizing small nuclear reactor-power plants for use in tactical operations. What could possibly go wrong in a war zone?

@noecarrier5035

3 жыл бұрын

It's okay, they're only small ones. Just don't stand too close. Or leave them unattended. Or let grunts touch them.

@6862ptc

3 жыл бұрын

They are considering Thorium Nuclear power plants. They are small and actually pretty safe, even “meltdown proof”. It’s what we should have been building all along.

@noecarrier5035

3 жыл бұрын

@@6862ptc None of the small modular reactors in development for realisation in the late 20s timeframe are thorium reactors. They're going to use "high assay low enriched" uranium, which is their latest silly euphemism. Make no mistake, they are going to be pretty conservative designs using uranium fission.

@6862ptc

3 жыл бұрын

@@noecarrier5035 hmm, ok. I was just going on information from a documentary I watched sometime last year. They mentioned the Army was looking into using small Thorium reactors at bases. It looked like the safest form of nuclear power of those discussed.

@noecarrier5035

3 жыл бұрын

@@6862ptc They are looking and were previously looking into a whole bunch of different concepts to serve the same purpose, so they might well have looked into a small thorium plant at one stage earlier on. It's certainly true what you say about thorium. Sadly, thorium cycle plants are still locked behind the staggeringly large quantities of money. Licensing, fuel fab chains, certain engineering issues, etc. Small modular reactors are definitely where nuclear power lies for future energy needs, though. Not just military ones.

They rinsed radioactive particles into the permeable soil. Such a bad idea.

I trained at Ft. Belvoir back in 1977. Never heard any storys about this

@TomKappeln

11 ай бұрын

Cover up ! The actuator system NEVER was shown ... There NEVER was ANY reactor a PERSON had to lift (a highly active) rod by HAND ... Why would there a be a need to uncouple a rod from a actuator .... Complete BS storry.

@cremebrulee4759

2 ай бұрын

​@@TomKappeln uh, no. Just no. Not everything that has happened has been covered up.

These guys were scalded by super heated steam and slammed by a rocket powered drum. Oye veh, that was so sad.

Soooooooo… What actually happened for the explosion to occur? 40 minutes of how well they handled the cleanup afterwards and not 1 minute of the possible causes.

@cheweyweather

4 жыл бұрын

I read an article somewhere here online that said 3 people were in the reactor. 1 woman and 2 men. 1 was a jealous lover in a love triangle and pulled a tube out causing an explosion killing all 3 and sticking one to the ceiling.

@nunyabizness199

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheweyweather Is that so...😏

@cheweyweather

3 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabizness199 The article is still there in the Spokesman-Review

@xapplimatic

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheweyweather How do they know this being no cameras, probably not even fingerprints would survive a flash explosion. This seems like a lot of heresay and conjecture and very little proof of anything.

@waynecoulter6761

3 жыл бұрын

@@cheweyweather Wrong. There were three men in the reactor building, NO women. McKinley was new to the field and shouldn't have even been there performing that procedure at all. The love triangle was a conspiracy theory at the time. The entire thing is detailed in detail in the book Idaho Falls. The reactor was known to have serious problems with the control rods sticking and losing the boron cladding on the rods that was meant to moderate the reaction. I suggest reading the book... it details the accident, the clean up, the autopsies and the rumors and hearsay and how that all came about. In my opinion, based on all I've read and seen about it, it was nothing more than a stuck control rod that suddenly broke loose while they were trying to lift it, causing the reactor to go prompt critical. No reactor before, and none after have been designed to place the ability to go critical on a single control rod.

That ambulance nurse was in trouble it would seem.

Just shows how dangerous early reactors were...

@cremebrulee4759

2 ай бұрын

It was an absolutely idiotic design. There were no protections from lifting the single control rod too high. Why the designers didn't see this as a problem is mind boggling.

Well, I suppose we've all been speared through the groin and lodged in the ceiling at work on occasions.......

It's always crazy watching these things and seeing how almost propaganda like these videos are like the happy music and the overall tone makes it seem wonderous and amazing when in reality it's pretty damn horrifying

@skivvy3565

Ай бұрын

Don’t forget the sheet amount of information left out even though this was a *training video* showed to people who were supposed to have clearance

Summary cards. Early data processing with keypunch cards.

He likes that word " cadre ".. Alot

Who remembers the stories from Power School??

My Dad was part of the Navy SEABEES assigned

@whirledpeas3477

Жыл бұрын

Amazing 👏

The happy-go-lucky flute music in the background seemed a bit out of place for the story.

Superman tv music..

Weird music for something so scary...

@NOMAD-qp3dd

3 жыл бұрын

Yea it's a beautiful piece of propaganda.

@RobinMayhall

3 жыл бұрын

According to the description for the video, it’s called “Suspenseful Moments”! 🤔

25 R/hr would have been enough to get me backing off much less 200. Yikes!

@sashimanu

3 жыл бұрын

For me, it depends. A whole body irradiation dose below 100 R causes no immediate ill effects and only a so-so increase of cancer risk. However, getting contaminated with radioactive materials is fucking scary. The stuff will be with you for a long time (not everything can be scrubbed off easily), and local doses will be significant.

@mybossisdrunk

Жыл бұрын

​@Sashman It's true that particles deposited in your body could be there for a very long time, even for your entire lifespan, but depending on quantity it's effective dose may be nothing compared to the 27 R that recieved.

4:47 You had me at: "Shut down on December 23rd for maintenance and minor modification" and you lost me at "day shift was relieved by a three man crew..." I blame the new guy..........

@eldtaylo

5 жыл бұрын

It's always the FNG's fault. LOL

@gorillaau

3 жыл бұрын

Junior New Guy: It was NFG when I got there. (No Fucking Good or Non-Functioning Gear)

@LordZontar

3 жыл бұрын

"Simpson, eh..?"

I haven't finished watching this yet, and I really want to know why the THIRD GUY WAS LODGED IN THE CEILING!!!

@kenklein4783

3 жыл бұрын

One of the control rods essentially speared him to the ceiling.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

Steam power is a hell of a thing.

Pity the 3-guys working on a crude reactor design. No safety interlocking system to prevent full removal of control rods.

Updated version of this incident with better explanation of what happened. kzread.info/dash/bejne/e42gx8GeeZjQZ5s.html

I would not dress like that if the temperature was -17°

@edwatts9890

4 жыл бұрын

Idahoans are tough.

Terrifying!!

I would like to know how they prepared and feed those brave people?

@nunyabizness199

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of alcohol...?

People in those days tended to mature; knew the benefits of dressing well and speaking well.

@PeterGriffin-rp9iq

4 жыл бұрын

Just cause you’re not a cookie cutter doesn’t mean you’re immature

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

@@PeterGriffin-rp9iq It does actually. Conformity in a professional environment breeds competence.

@PeterGriffin-rp9iq

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeneralJackRipper don’t need a suit to be competent. Plenty of drooling assholes wearing suits. Same for any other type of dress. Suits do signal professionalism but I don’t think maturity or competence are something you get from clothes.

Honey! The fast Neutron radiation has transmuted my the metal of watch again. Bugger

3:10 "not shielded because lol, f*ck'em" what a time to be alive back then

Films music comes right out of episode of lassie!! Music conveys full gamut of human emotions..least emotion is terrible horror..What if Music from SEA HUNT or Creature from black lagoon was used.!! Emergency personnel once in that's all she wrote.......

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

Because, frankly, there's nothing to be terrified about.

More to the point, why did it blow up. I seem to remember that they hinted that it went critical at the core but with zero cooling water. Is this true? Perhaps a hot spot developed.

@Astinsan

3 жыл бұрын

When the control rod got stuck they forced it and it went out of the core 20 inches instead of the safe maximum 4 inches. This accident caused the reactor to go “Prompt critical”. This is a burst of reaction energy which turned the water to steam instantaneous. It then created a “water hammer” event. All the pressures launched the reactor plates off the head of the containment vessel because it was never designed for this much pressure. There was nothing that could be done and likely didn’t even get noticed by the people that got hurt. It happened that fast.

@PatHaskell

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, there must have been water inside the vessel otherwise it would seem hard for it to have gone critical.

@JostVanWair

Жыл бұрын

​@@PatHaskell Yep there was

@mybossisdrunk

Жыл бұрын

Some water had been removed post shutdown but water did remain. After the event no water remained in the reactor

@Inflec

8 ай бұрын

​@@Astinsan- Besides the water that was left in the reactor, the main reason for the accident was a design consideration that proved to be the fatal flaw. Because the idea behind this reactor was to make it as simple to operate as possible (remember the caliber of people who were the expected end users), the engineers designed the center control rod to have the greatest effect on the reactor power (known as "worth" in nuclear design lingo). So this one control rod was effectively the trigger of a nuclear IED. All it needed was to be pulled out too far and kaBOOM. Since then no nuclear reactor has been designed with any one control rod given the ability to affect reactivity so profoundly.

This documentary has no explanation as to what those three operators did to cause the explosion.

In the olden days when the average person was relatively fit and not obese.

When i saw the title, i thought it was a Saturday Night Live episode, "The Accident". Guess not.

@1ls376

3 жыл бұрын

@chi sam acronym?

Slide rules!

I was hoping to find out what mistakes were made to cause the accident.

@CapnMic

3 жыл бұрын

google "SL-1Article Rev5.pdf" .. for a more complete story of the incident and the investigation .. emphasis on poor design, procedures, and protocols will become apparent, and a bit of fabricated drama and blame on operator error was pursued.. this experimental reactor was a problem well before that fateful night .. the government's conclusion ended up not supporting the factual information that later became known .. but the damage was done and a story of blame and cover-up developed to protect national security and other programs.. I believe this is the same type of reactor secretly installed in Thule Greenland .. as this reactor was designed for artic operations. Without going down the rabbit hole .. nuclear power was seen as a solution to many problems with very different applications .. and such thinking exists today ..

i wonder how many of these men ended up with cancer later on in life?

@PeterMilanovski

3 жыл бұрын

Well according to pro nuclear energy people, none of them! They seem to think that it's like a normal non nuclear bomb, only people who are next to the bomb die from the explosion and there's nothing after that. I have argued with them about the long term death's but it's like they are telling me that I didn't see it because it didn't happen! I love how they tell me that I need to research into the latest reactor technologies but I can't understand what part of radioactive they don't understand..

@mariekatherine5238

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeterMilanovski Actually, there is a huge class action payoff for govt. nuclear employees with cancer. Very few of the people are sick or died due to nuclear explosions or weapons. Three uncles, two cousins, and father were all exposed and got cancer. Only my father and one cousin are still living. Of these, two were exposed to fallout from experimental bombs in the Pacific. Nobody knows why Dad is still alive, given the amount of exposure. And one uncle shouldn’t have died as his was caught early, but it still killed him in three month’s time. Too much is unknown.

@GeneralJackRipper

2 жыл бұрын

No more than died from all the cigarettes they smoked back then.

@mybossisdrunk

Жыл бұрын

The Health Physicist that pulled the first victim out did and so did a few other guys involved. The nurse did as well. It's not a garentee that this even caused it tho. Obviously much more likely for the HP than the nurse

An Ultra-tiny Chernobyl, you ALWAYS need containment.

@johnlaccohee-joslin4477

Жыл бұрын

There is no such thing as a small nuclear accident and never will be. There is a huge amount of technical informational that in stupidity is marked secret andcstored away for years, when total honesty has taken a back seat to profit or one upman ship, i have seen enough of this in my lifetime cocerning this nature of accidents, the end result is in all cases NOT SMALL.