Skipper dies in tragic mishap in the Bermuda Ocean Race. Sailors Debrief 104

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The skipper, experienced and knowledgeable, embarked on the Bermuda Race with confidence. However, the unforeseen can swiftly transform the serene ocean into a tempestuous battleground. But this wasn’t the case. In the midst a phenomenon called Risk Habituation, a moment of not wearing a life vest in combination of a rogue wave, the skipper was swept overboard, separated from the sanctuary of their vessel. In those harrowing moments, a life vest would have provided vital buoyancy, increasing the chances of survival until rescue could be secured.
Ocean racing demands a delicate balance between skill, strategy, and safety. A life vest is not merely an accessory; it is a lifeline, a guardian against the unpredictable forces of nature. In the event of an emergency, it can mean the difference between life and death. Its significance transcends the boundaries of competition, embodying a fundamental principle of seamanship: prioritizing human life above all else.
The tragedy of the skipper's demise serves as a sobering reminder of the inherent risks associated with ocean racing. It underscores the imperative for all sailors, regardless of experience or expertise, to prioritize safety above all else. A life vest is not a luxury; it is a necessity, an indispensable tool that can mitigate the inherent dangers of maritime pursuits.
In conclusion, the importance of a life vest in ocean racing cannot be overstated. It is a vital piece of equipment that can potentially save lives in the face of adversity. The loss of the skipper in the Bermuda Race stands as a poignant testament to this reality, serving as a somber reminder of the critical importance of safety measures at sea.
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This Video contains ---------------
00:00 intro
00:33 background of boat/crew
01:15 events timeline
02:40 feeling safe isn’t safe
03:00 Man overboard
04:30 lessons learned
05:10 risk habituation issues
05:40 skipper memorial
06:30 satellite passwords
07:20 safety definition of success
07:50 USCG rescue range
08:19 three phases of the MOB drill

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  • @sailorgeer
    @sailorgeer13 күн бұрын

    I do a lot of single handing and while I’ve never tried hoisting a person using a halyard, I have hoisted many zodiac dinghies aboard myself using a halyard, and always assumed that if I needed to recover an overboard crew person, I could do it myself with a halyard. Then I tried hoisting someone up the mast and found it extremely hard and tiring even using the low speed setting on the primary Genoa winch. It taught me a valuable lesson! Now I carry a 3:1 block and tackle for that purpose, which can also double as a boom preventer. Having a swim platform, step through transom or sugar scoop at the stern would also certainly help get someone aboard, as you wouldn’t have to lift as far.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    13 күн бұрын

    Great comment. Always taken care using the stern. In heavy seas, the heaving of the boat can cause difficulty. You don’t want the boat to be lifted with a wave, then come down and cause injuries to the PIW.

  • @RaquelOne
    @RaquelOne17 күн бұрын

    Excellent review of the US Sailing Inquiry of this incident - As a sailor myself, things as simple as operating VHF properly should be reviewed by ALL boarding a sailboat. Much respect 🫡

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    Thanks, we hope you found this useful. We are here for you!!!

  • @crank2447
    @crank244714 күн бұрын

    When I bought a L:ifeSling for my sailboat I also purchased a 3:1 hoisting tackle. In use one block of the hoisting tackle is attached to a halyard and hoisted 10 feet above deck. The COB in the LifeSling is attached to the other block of the tackle . The tail of the tackle line is led to a winch on deck. When we've practiced with our LifeSling and hoisting tackle it takes a lot of energy grinding a winch to hoist a 200 lb. adult into the boat. I've heard other sailors say the hoisting tackle costs too much and they will just use a halyard to hoist the COB onto the boat. This accident shows that relying on a halyard alone is unlikely to be successful. You've produced a really good analysis of this accident. Thanks.

  • @firstlast1047

    @firstlast1047

    14 күн бұрын

    I, my crew, and some passengers from an oil platform were tasked with retrieving MOB's that abandoned ship from a boat that caught fire. All MOBS had pfds, strobe, and whistle. What was notable it took three men to heave from water to my boat, a freeboard of 5 ft, to rescue one man in the bight of a line.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Yea, usually three or four people without mechanical advantage.

  • @keithmoorechannel

    @keithmoorechannel

    13 күн бұрын

    And don’t forget halyards don’t work when the mast is no longer intact!

  • @mcarlson4854

    @mcarlson4854

    4 күн бұрын

    We use a 5 to 1 tackle and practice with it. We are women and have less upper body strength.

  • @Cuba660
    @Cuba66017 күн бұрын

    Great review. Thanks for hitting on all the little details that are mostly overlooked when hearing about these sad events.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    Our pleasure! Looking forward to sailing with you!

  • @jeffcee9457
    @jeffcee945717 күн бұрын

    Great report i did that race and it was a very sad moment after learning of the unfortunate tragedy

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching. We intentionally put this out at this time as a reminder. I hope you found it helpful. Please share with your sailing Mates!

  • @davidzaharik5408
    @davidzaharik540817 күн бұрын

    Great debrief thank you... tragic... simply tragic. Risk Habituation can develop into a Normalization of Deviance which is even worse. Set standard operating procedures and do not deviate from them. I love the idea of daily reminding everyone, the risks are the same... nothing has changed. Safety vigilance does not take away from the enjoyment.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Are you a pilot!!! Thanks for the comments

  • @davidzaharik5408

    @davidzaharik5408

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing Dead give away I guess... retired...

  • @GoWithTheFloat
    @GoWithTheFloat17 күн бұрын

    Great review and reminder on safety. And Bravo Zulu for you educating others on the learnings. It reminds me that I don't do enough MOB prep. That is so horrible for everyone. To have recovered him and not be able to get him aboard.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Thanks. Yea… the need to practice is huge. But the vest is critical and please wear your crotch straps.

  • @robertgregory8936
    @robertgregory8936Күн бұрын

    Hear hear! Well done. Long time ocean racer here

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    4 сағат бұрын

    Thanks

  • @leonardmilcin7798
    @leonardmilcin779816 күн бұрын

    The first phase of rescuing an overboard casualty is to making sure you know where they are. You can't rescue them if you can't find them. And I can tell that with those waves and without PFDs on, it can be really hard to locate a bobbing head in the water. I do safety briefing every time I go with a new crew or a crew member even if it is on a small lake with land always in sight. Those are typically random people with no prior experience sailing. Besides talking about basic things like my role, their responsibilities, how to move about, in and out of the boat, what they can expect, etc. we also talk about risks and what happens if proverbial excrement hits the proverbial fan. I explain nobody is jumping out to save a casualty (heard this happen to other skippers, you just suddenly have two casualties in the water). I describe how the rescue operation proceeds. I assign the roles to individual crew members and explain to everybody what each role entails. Then when we leave the port, we actually do one or two MoB drills, just to drive the point home. I have heard from a lot of people it goes a long way to lessen their anxiety to see that the skipper can prepare and organise the crew and handle the boat to be back in seconds. So I don't think there is any reason not to do it -- most people actually like and appreciate the experience. If anything, for many people this is first experience of really vigorous maneuvering on a yacht. I never had anybody fall off under my watch, but I talked to a guy who did. He was alone, it was after sunset. He slipped, fell, and spent *HOURS* hanging off railing trying to get back on the boat. If he let go of the railing he would be dead as he would be unable to reach the land and nobody would locate him after dark or knew where he was.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comment and the efforts you make to drive home the safety points on your vessel. It’s so important for a crew to have confidence in the skipper. This confidence is underlined even more when they see the skipper doing all the right stuff like wearing pFDs. Sail safe.

  • @SkyPilot54
    @SkyPilot5410 күн бұрын

    Excellent presentation Ive been in similar situations, Tough to get 250 lbs back on deck, in big sea

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    10 күн бұрын

    Thanks for listening

  • @mac-doien9298

    @mac-doien9298

    7 күн бұрын

    Wonder if it's a good practice to use a 300 pound replica of a victim, not some 150 pound doll?

  • @LCDRBrianem4
    @LCDRBrianem417 күн бұрын

    Complacency always lurks in every human endeavor. So great reminder

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    I hope you found this helpful…

  • @LCDRBrianem4

    @LCDRBrianem4

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing Absolutely- a timely reminder, especially since I am getting underway shortly for 2 months with a recent major surgery patient. We'll definitely practice an MOB recovery on day 1. Both me recovering him and vice versa.

  • @twentyrothmans7308
    @twentyrothmans730817 күн бұрын

    MOB briefing and run-through was standard before going offshore, everyone must wear vests. What I neglected was learning, and teaching, the technique of hoisting someone up. Something to bear in mind for this season.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    We can provide that information. Practice… most likely a spare main halyard or topping lift.

  • @twentyrothmans7308

    @twentyrothmans7308

    17 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing Yes! I was on someone else's boat and he asked for a spare halyard - I threw him a sheet and learned some new English words. This season, I'm starting with someone new, and have to relearn everything.

  • @Peter-ch6dg

    @Peter-ch6dg

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing but didnt you state in above that they tried to use the halyard but couldnt due to chaffing in the sheave. there are other options but it either wasnt available or wasnt used. retrieval is often an overlooked part of MOB drills especially when fenders are used in drills.

  • @yzScott
    @yzScott16 күн бұрын

    That was such a surprise when it happened. It was my second off-shore in a row where someone passed away shortly after the start. I was on the Chicago-Mac the year before, too. A pro was swept overboard. Once more, not on a tether.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. We know quite a few folks on Imedi. US Sailing even recommended the possibility of the use of our Trained Sailing Rescue Swimmers for difficult situations as this. The conditions that day were definitely challenging that day. The report of the incident is on our web site. Look on the department of Learning page. We also have a segment on IDR drowning on our you tube. The coast guard has come out with a new drowning to be aware of as a result of this incident. We also go in depth in our handbook.

  • @yzScott

    @yzScott

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing That start in the Chicago was the worst I've ever experienced. It was genuinely brutal. Much of the field was sea sick before they crossed the starting line.

  • @yzScott

    @yzScott

    13 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing It's the worst feeling in the world to hear on the radio when something like this happens. I hope few of your viewer ever experience it. I sail the Pacific Cup this summer. I hope we all make it safely this time. We ran video on deck for every second of our race. Reviewing the 100 hours of footage after the race, there was quite a lot to learn to improve our own safety. We had no significant incidents, but in video review it is possible to see where things could have gone differently. Our procedures and deck discipline will be tighter than ever.

  • @svkodoku
    @svkodoku13 күн бұрын

    Important message. Thanks for sharing!

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    13 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @colaoliver1587
    @colaoliver15873 күн бұрын

    The skipper endangered the entire crew by not following on deck protocols. On deck, off shore, you must ALWAYS be clipped on. If your harness has only one hook, add one so you can move about without ever being unhooked. I heard of a guy swept over board while changing his single hook. Hate to hear stuff like this.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    3 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. Appreciate your experience and please be a leader! You can have safety without it.

  • @FredCooper-en1sd
    @FredCooper-en1sd10 күн бұрын

    I'm an airplane pilot and ocean sailor. My pilot training was very simple. procedure, procedure, procedure when it came to risk abatement. You never re-calculated the apparent risk you executed the procedure, period. I sail the same way.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    10 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comments. We use advisors when we produce these. Airforce MH 53 and NaSA safety engineers. Both are sailors too. Our team is also made of former military from numerous countries.

  • @mhub3576
    @mhub357616 күн бұрын

    Iirc, being able to get an incapacitated person back on board was one of the lessons of the Fastnet disaster. It was discussed in Kretschmer's Fastnet Force 10. I was tossed out of a sailing dinghy once, into a reservoir fed by the Elbow River, i.e., Canadian Rockies snowmelt. Brrrrr!🥶 Trust me, it did not take long to where I could barely get into the patrol boat that picked me up after I couldn't get the dinghy righted quickly and stopped trying so I could preserve my remaining energy. Cold water sucks the energy right out of you. Incidentally, I was wearing an auto inflating PFD, which worked, but made it nearly impossible to swim the ten feet back to the boat. A strap running front to back between the legs might have prevented this by keeping it from riding up under my armpits. If you use an auto inflator, you should try swimming in it once just to familiarize yourself.

  • @sailingsibongile

    @sailingsibongile

    16 күн бұрын

    Good point about the auto PFD... They are not designed for swimming in. They are designed for waiting to be retrieved, whilst keeping your face clear of the water. Personally, I think a kayaking-style bouyancy aid and a kayak-style helmet (like the Americas Cup sailors use) is safer than an auto PFD and a sun-hat. And... studies have showen that calming down and waiting it out is the safest way to deal with cold water immersion. Your body will centralise the warm blood, whereas swimming send valuable warm blood to areas where is can be lost to the water.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    We encourage all sailors to contact your national authorities and take the offshore safety at sea course where cold water survival, getting into a life raft, jumping into water with PFD is taught. In the US it’s on the US Sailing Website. Once you have a certificate, if you are a boat owner. Expect a discount on your insurance.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    We think it is important for all offshore sailors to read that book. We also require it for the crews who join us in our charter racing like the Fastnet, Transatlantic and RORC 600.

  • @michaelmeads3636
    @michaelmeads363616 күн бұрын

    Very informative Capt Jack. Keep it up

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    So happy that you, of all my friends, spent the time to watch!!!! Rambler 100 is next!!!!

  • @mikedenney1568

    @mikedenney1568

    10 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing Perhaps "risk complacency"

  • @jefflukowski9246
    @jefflukowski924615 күн бұрын

    Nice review. The term risk habitualization doesnt resonate well from a safety behaviors standpoint. You might consider the Safestart terminology which would be "complacency". I do enjoy your reviews; keep it up!

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    15 күн бұрын

    Good point!

  • @calvinsbnb76

    @calvinsbnb76

    13 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing I prefer "risk habituation". It's much more specific than "complacency". You can be complacent about your wardrobe, or your brand of fishing tackle. I was vaguely aware of the phenomenon of risk habituation, but until I saw your video I didn't know what to call it. So here we have an experienced seaman, the skipper, lulled into a false sense of safety because of his habitual exposure to the risk. And it cost him his life! That's a big lesson for the living!

  • @firstlast1047
    @firstlast104715 күн бұрын

    During my time as an instructor for "Power Squadron" , maneuvering the boat alongside a person in the water is difficult, but manageable. Getting them back on board is the difficult part. Had an experience as a professional mariner. The MOB was a seafarer, pfd on. He fell off a pilot ladder, in calm weather, no residual swell, and warm temperature. He was a "fireplug" also, by girth, height and weight. My deck, unsecured by line jump in to assist. It all turned out well. I won't bore you with a long story line. But fortuitously the ship He was boarding had a piece of equipment I had never seen before or since in my career.

  • @michaelargilla4240

    @michaelargilla4240

    14 күн бұрын

    If I can ask, what was the piece of equipment you had not seen before, or since, that helped with the recovery of the MOB?

  • @firstlast1047

    @firstlast1047

    14 күн бұрын

    @michaelargilla4240 It was a lightweight, small aluminum cage. Best described as a mini "shark cage" The ship used it haul light objects (luggage, small light packages etc.) All ships used a handline to haul small and light objects aboard. Fortunately, the cage could accommodate a crouched, full-grown human.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks for sailing.

  • @fredread9216
    @fredread921616 күн бұрын

    Real life. Wow. I am a US Sailing instructor and have trained and performed many COB’s offshore San Francisco, a very challenging area. We performed these trainings both day and night, as per the US Sailing curriculum. This is indeed challenging. Especially in very large seas as they were in. What an amazing job they did. One of our instructors came up with a way to add a crotch strap to the life sling for just this reason. Getting an out of shape, overweight person out of the water is indeed challenging. So sorry. RIP.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. The key is to not get in the water. This is a sad story to lose such a great sailor in a moment of inattentiveness. The ocean times the big waves when we least expect them. The combination of the two have serious consequences. Best to always be prepared.

  • @bishopdredd5349
    @bishopdredd534910 күн бұрын

    Nice Pilot Debrief

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    10 күн бұрын

    We have UK and US Airforce on the team. One hello and one zoomy

  • @user-ep1xi3lr8l
    @user-ep1xi3lr8l17 күн бұрын

    Thanks, John best yet

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    Thanks Dad… love you!!!

  • @TerryKeever
    @TerryKeever15 күн бұрын

    I'm not a sailor, but I have hope one day. Such a senseless avoidable loss of life. Perhaps you could show how to get a non responsive person back on deck? I've been taught drowning people often panic and fight rescuers, is MOB the same? Differences in a large person verses small? Thanks for the video, the info and the reminders to all who are on the water. Working knowledge of radios is a must for all - ALL.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @pavelavietor1
    @pavelavietor17 күн бұрын

    THIS EVENT IS JUST CRAZY , SALUDOS

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    5 күн бұрын

    Yeah it is

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines
    @ExploringCabinsandMines5 күн бұрын

    Died from what?

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    5 күн бұрын

    It’s most unfortunate, but it was a drowning

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines

    @ExploringCabinsandMines

    5 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing I think more sailboats need hinged swim ladders 🪜

  • @Alsatiagent-zu1rx

    @Alsatiagent-zu1rx

    4 күн бұрын

    @@ExploringCabinsandMines Seems like he (in his 70s) would have been too exhausted to climb it.

  • @TheoSmith249
    @TheoSmith24913 күн бұрын

    ....radio set to Low function vs High function. .. please explain? Did you really mean high power output, vs. Low power output. ? Was it written and spelt like that in the official report? If so. I am beginning to wonder about our investigative bodies. ... sheesh.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    13 күн бұрын

    There is a Hi and Low button on many marine radios. The higher your output power, the further your message will carry, so always use the “low” setting for close communication, as a courtesy to others. Reserve the “high” setting for emergencies, when you want your message to reach as many people as possible.

  • @TheoSmith249

    @TheoSmith249

    13 күн бұрын

    @ministryofsailing You missed my point. No further response required.

  • @evanshaw17
    @evanshaw1713 күн бұрын

    Yes beginners fear things that are safe but don’t see real dangers. Intermediates now accurately the dangers and what is the way to be safe. Experts must guard against complacency. This is what killed the skipper hEre

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    13 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching. I would also like to note that risk habituation is also a natural process. The brain does not have the capability to operate under stress over long periods of time. So the brain naturally tells the vast that things will be ok, even if the risk hasn’t changed. This is were the constant safety briefing comes in to remind everyone. The studies on this are fascinating.

  • @kierancrowley6275
    @kierancrowley627514 күн бұрын

    Shame on the small-minded criticising pronunciation and nomenclature. This is a reminder that prevention is better than rescue. P.S. What is the story behind the yacht at the end with the collapsed rig?

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks.. The rig was during the Heineken Regatta in St Maarten. All were fine, the grabbed another boat the next day and continued racing. We were al ready in the Barn as we race in CSA Zero. It was an interesting moment that a broken stick gets a standing ovation from the Yacht Club. Thanks for watching till the end and thanks for the comments.

  • @OhAwe
    @OhAwe4 күн бұрын

    I don't understand. So they weren't wearing life-jackets? It's like riding a bike without a helmet.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    4 күн бұрын

    Agree… understand that the constant briefing keeps crew informed and on the same page. Even when the owner doesn’t follow crew rules, the crew needs to have a mechanism to correct the behavior. Thats where good leadership and safety go hand in hand. Safety normally does not exist when there is poor leadership.

  • @sailingsibongile
    @sailingsibongile16 күн бұрын

    PFD & being clipped in can not have guaranteed the avoidance of tragedy. 1. The skipper was 74yrs old, and being a "larger man" it suggests he was in questionable health anyway. 2. The tether and PFD don't prevent the man going overboard, they prevent the boat sailing away from the MOB. The skipper would still have been flung pretty hard, and would have been badly jolted by the tether. This would have been dangerous for an elderly 'large' man. 3. The cause of actual death might have been cardiac arrest from a heart attack... A tethered MOB could still have had a heart-attack. Oh, and the MOB drill should include a pan-pan call to alert coastguard and/or other vessels. That's how UK sailors are taught.

  • @leonardmilcin7798

    @leonardmilcin7798

    16 күн бұрын

    Respectfully I don't think you know what you are talking about. It is pretty clear in this case having either tether installed or an inflatable vest like other crew members did, would save the guy. What the inflatable vest does is it turns your entire body in a proper position with your head up and means you do not have to know how to swim or expend any energy to stay afloat. You are also way more visible as well as you might have a light on or a radio device activate to locate your position. And the tether properly installed would absolutely prevent him from falling overboard. The tether is mounted to the vest and so the jolt is well spread over upper body and is designed to dissipate the force over large area. People do get cardiac arrest just from anxiety. Do you know what lessens anxiety? An inflated life jacket that means you do not have to fight for survival. Or a tether that prevents the situation in the first place.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    We emphasize in our Sailing Reacue Swimmer Manual that the objective of the tether is not to keep you attached to the boat, but rather to keep you on the deck. Setting up the jacklines to the center of the boat is a good start. When in the cockpit, clip in so that you cannot be tossed over. Thanks for watching.. we like to point World Sailing Offshore Special Regulations as the standards!

  • @peterandersen8684

    @peterandersen8684

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing What manual are you talking about? What are your credentials?

  • @sailingaqualibra4848

    @sailingaqualibra4848

    15 күн бұрын

    Respectfully, you might not be sufficiently experienced to offer definitive opinions on these matters. In most cases safety harnesses that have both 3' and 6' tethers will prevent falling overboard provided they are used correctly and the padeyes and jacklines are located properly and run inboard. Secondly, a MOB situation by definition is a "grave and imminent danger to life", which requires a MAYDAY transmission, not a PANPAN as you stated, which is for urgent and non-grave situations such as a dislocated joint etc. However, I think your comment underscores the need for US Sailing to make Short Range Radio certification a requirement for racing crew. The USCG is out of step with best practices required in most other countries regarding VHF licensing and radio operators certification in the belief that this will dissuade people from carrying VHF radios. They might be right about the tradeoff regarding the general public, but racing crew should all recognize the worldwide requirement by SOLAS and the Global Maritime Distress and Safety System (GMDSS) that they should be capable and proficient in using the radio properly. The training is basic, but amongst other useful things teaches how to use DSC, make MAYDAY, PANPAN, SECURETAY and routine calls. I had a recent case in point when I received a MAYDAY call from a vessel 150 miles off Long Island whilst returning from Bermuda last year that was utterly useless. Had the caller had GMDSS training he would have known what, and in which order to transmit the vital information needed by responders. Fortunately, they retrieved their MOB without incident. When making a voice MAYDAY call use the acronym MIRIPDANIO, which stands for; (M) MAYDAY x3, (I) Vessel I.D. - name x3, radio call sigh and MMSI (R) MAYDAY (I) Vessel I.D. x1 (P) Position - lat/long (D) Nature of distress (MOB, sinking, on fire etc) (A) Assistance required - always say, "We require immediate assistance." (N) Number of people onboard (I) Additional information which might assist your rescuers such as; "We are taking to raft and are carrying a portable VHF." (O) OVER This should be mounted next to the ships radio for reference. It's obvious that the most critical information needs to be transmitted first. This might be the difference between life and death if you are sinking and your batteries are about to short out. Remember to speak very slowly and very clearly, because the receivers need to write everything down and you might have only one chance to get the message out. Hopefully this is helpful. Cheers Pete S/V Aqualibra

  • @vibratingstring

    @vibratingstring

    14 күн бұрын

    @@sailingaqualibra4848 We saw flares -- three separate launches -- off the Grand Banks, tuned to 2182 and 16, listened, called, listened, called, searched, found nothing on an inky black night. This was almost 30 years ago. The most utterly chilling thing I've ever experienced on a boat.

  • @jonasf4065
    @jonasf406522 сағат бұрын

    Pretty sure he would have went overboard with or without PFD. What is this nonsense? He wasn't tethered in, I'm pretty sure that was the issue there.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    20 сағат бұрын

    Agree! I don’t think we made the inferences that if he had a PFD on, he would not have gone overboard. You are correct the tether is the key

  • @danpease8395
    @danpease839514 күн бұрын

    If he'd gone overboard with a teather he.may still may not have been recovered.

  • @vibratingstring

    @vibratingstring

    14 күн бұрын

    Tethers need to be short.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes, dragging and drowning, according to research can occur at 4 knots. It’s important to take your time when setting up jack lines and clipping in. Set them up center line to the boat so that when sailors clip in. The tether keeps them on the deck. Use double tethers and as much as possible rely on the shortest. If a situation occurs where a sailor is being dragged… We advocate the Hook, Hoist and cut. 1) identify the rescue halyard, then hook it to the tether. 2) hoist the halyard then release the jack line. As always, this takes practice, but if you always clip in so that it keeps you on the deck, you avoid the drag. Avoidance is by far and always the best control.

  • @peterandersen8684
    @peterandersen868411 сағат бұрын

    The Minister, quotes the Storm Trysail Club ansa US Sailing as endorsing rescue swimmers. Meanwhile the club SPECIFICALLY discourages safety swimmers and even even in USS own investigavtive report by a committee made up of STC members discourages it on THIS VERY INCIDENT!!!! ' H. Training regarding rescue swimmers - We recommend that Safety at Sea training be revised to specifically address when, if ever, to send a rescue swimmer into the water. The MOM crew specifically discussed this issue and wisely decided not to send a swimmer into the water given the conditions'. So lets see what you lemmings have to say about this. CCA, STC, US Sailing are all organizations the Minister quotes and references. None of them agree with training and using amatuers as rescue swimmers, which is what the Minister is trying to sell.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    3 сағат бұрын

    It is great to hear from you again and we appreciate you taking the time to further look into the incident. WE HAVE NOT quoted the endorsing of the certification. As a mater of fact, the STC videos, showing the use of a “Surface Swimmer”, attached to a halyard to assist a person in the water - do not display the appropriate personal protection equipment, most specifically the use of a helmet would be required. Furthermore, a COB alone is not the criteria to send a SRS. 1) a Certified SRS, 2) Trained Crew, 3) appropriate SRS PPE. The techniques of the use of a Surface Swimmer by STC was actually developed by some members of the Ministry of Sailing. But most unfortunately, and I hate to bring this out, but the use of SRSs is recognized and utilized as a profession in almost every rescue service in the world. It is a profession and the certification was developed by some of the most advanced Rescue Swimmers, Professional Sailors and Military personnel. US Sailing in the review of the Imedi incident says that the deployment of an SRS could have been considered. On a personal note - the regular crew on Imedi was not on the boat, specifically the helmsman. If aboard, a SRS would have been used. World Sailing - in Catagory Zero also recognizes and requires the use of Sailing Rescue Swimmers, The Ocean Race has them, IMOCAs, and many other Maxis. Most importantly, and please take this from sailor to sailor - you are correct as the close minded sailor tend to get focused on preventing change, and their only reasoning is :”they never did it that way.”

  • @TootSocialTV
    @TootSocialTV2 күн бұрын

    C'moon all you Karen's! Give this good, well intention man a break from criticizing his presentation or voice/manner speaking. He made the effort to produce this video, makes good points to remind us to be careful. Hopefully it may tickle just one person, one day to clip in... and a life will be saved! And if I may add something to the conversation. Risk is only one aspect to consider on the ocean. CONSEQUENCES should always be right up there. In this case risk homeostasis allowed him to feel comfortable to know he has never been thrown overboard in rough seas. *Really* think through the consequences, vividly. I would assume that IF I were to be thrown without being tethered so I could not go overboard or without a PFD, I would assume I'm going to be lost at sea in 15+ breaking swells. It would be a terrifying way to end an otherwise enjoyable life. Kudos to his crewmembers for stopping and finding him at all.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    Күн бұрын

    Hope I get the meet you. Thanks Sail fast!!! Sail safe

  • @markstreger1343
    @markstreger134316 күн бұрын

    No risk with a skipper 50+lb overweigth Nd out of shape.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    15 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching..

  • @OGillo2001
    @OGillo200115 күн бұрын

    BATMAN

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks for watching!!! Robin?

  • @ferhomme96
    @ferhomme9612 күн бұрын

    First rule we are taught is to personally take every precaution to prevent going overboard in the first place. I.E. Clip on, etc. Hence I have little sympathy for those increasing the risks and hence dying or putting other at risk, as in this case by willfully disregarding the basics. Cant fix stupid.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    12 күн бұрын

    Thanks for your response, buts let’s remember, we have all made mistakes and this one is underlined by tragedy. He was a Son, Father, husband who was loved by many.

  • @allaheadflank

    @allaheadflank

    9 күн бұрын

    Colin was a volunteer leader of my section when I took the “Safety at Sea” seminar - he was a kind man whose one-time oversight cost him dearly. He was not stupid.

  • @shredderhater
    @shredderhater8 күн бұрын

    Am I watching a dude read? Why?

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    5 күн бұрын

    Sorry, working on making them better. Thanks for the feed back. But I hope it did not distract you too much from the important information. We will work on the users experience.

  • @bigm980

    @bigm980

    4 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing video was informative and interesting in my opinion. good job. work on normalizing your audio though its too low

  • @dboboc
    @dboboc16 күн бұрын

    A “ Ministry of Sailing “ doesn’t know how to pronounce the word Leeward.

  • @peterandersen8684

    @peterandersen8684

    16 күн бұрын

    or Storm Trysail Club. This guy is a joke.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    English is my 2nd language. I am from Wisconsin!!!! Again, if you see us out on the race course, remind us. We will buy you a dark and stormy when we catch your lines at the dock. But thanks for watching. We hope you may have learned from this.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    @@peterandersen8684 what do you sail?

  • @peterandersen8684

    @peterandersen8684

    16 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing Just about everything. 100,000 ocean miles

  • @peterandersen8684
    @peterandersen868416 күн бұрын

    You donlt even know what the 'STORM TRYSAIL CLUB' is ( not Trysail Storm), and we should pay attention to you? Very funny.

  • @Woobieeee

    @Woobieeee

    16 күн бұрын

    who gives a shit.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Yea… we know that!!!! Sorry for that. Please keep in mind we are sailors and educators! I hope you don’t miss the points. Our intent in learning, we have LOs and sped a lot of time discussing the key payoffs for viewers. We are not film makers, editors nor producers. Please forgive us!!! If you see us around in any regattas please remind us that we owe you a dark and stormy.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    FYI, for the haters. Time involved - research, 20 hours. Prep, 10 hours. Filming, 3 hours, discussions with Pro Colleagues 4 hours, editing 10 hours. All comments are helpful as we try to make each episode better. Hope to see you all on the water. Please let us know what topics you would like us to cover

  • @peterandersen8684

    @peterandersen8684

    16 күн бұрын

    ​@@Woobieeee The shit is this dude dosnt know what hes talking about

  • @Woobieeee

    @Woobieeee

    16 күн бұрын

    @@peterandersen8684 who gives a shit.

  • @kevindougherty4833
    @kevindougherty483317 күн бұрын

    I hope you don't sail a boat.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    17 күн бұрын

    You can control the risk.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    16 күн бұрын

    Was this to us? Hope we don’t sail? What are you sailing on?

  • @peterradclyffe8056
    @peterradclyffe805621 сағат бұрын

    the usual condescending pompous whining

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    20 сағат бұрын

    Explain?

  • @hav2win
    @hav2win21 сағат бұрын

    Just an FYI, you misspelled his last name in the video. It's Colin Golder, not Goldner.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    20 сағат бұрын

    Correct.. apologies

  • @salnichols94805
    @salnichols948054 күн бұрын

    Sounds like they did everything right except for not practicing an actual recovery. Picking up a hat or cushion is not enough.

  • @ministryofsailing

    @ministryofsailing

    4 күн бұрын

    Clipping in is very important. One should always wear a life vest. As skills progress, including COB recoveries, then a consideration for Life Vests, hooked in when reefed and always at night!

  • @salnichols94805

    @salnichols94805

    3 күн бұрын

    @@ministryofsailing learning how to stop a boat quickly is imperative. You have less than 2 minutes to live being dragged alongside by your tether. Clipping in only saves you if you stay on board.

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