Skin Tones in Portraits: Canon vs Sony and How to Correct

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After years of shooting portraits with Canon cameras, I recently made the move to Sony. People warned me that my portraits would now suffer because the skin tones on Sony cameras were 'terrible'. I had already done a few portrait shoots though and hadn't noticed any issues, so I decided to put it to the test.
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  • @seantuck
    @seantuck5 жыл бұрын

    A lot of you are asking where I found the CMYK formula for skin tones: I found it in a few different places online. I forget most, but one source was definitely Michael Woloszynowicz who is a great retoucher. Check him out.

  • @rio_nakayama

    @rio_nakayama

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Rarely I found videos on skin tones. Please please do comparison with Nikon Z (If it's possible) Thanks!! :)

  • @brianroberts-realtor2853

    @brianroberts-realtor2853

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Sean. I wonder, if you had pushed the white balance a bit warmer with the Sony, would it look closer to the Canon out of camera? It would saturate more yellows, yeah?

  • @joshzaring

    @joshzaring

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is beyond useful and I can apply this to video as well. Thanks!

  • @zomgonzo

    @zomgonzo

    5 жыл бұрын

    lowepro protactic aw350

  • @kfitzz

    @kfitzz

    5 жыл бұрын

    5D IV is more like the Sony on skin detail.

  • @joaoldmedeiros
    @joaoldmedeiros5 жыл бұрын

    Sean Tucker video = drop everything and pay attention

  • @nicklasbenjaminsson520

    @nicklasbenjaminsson520

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol i find you everywhere

  • @joaoldmedeiros

    @joaoldmedeiros

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ahahaha hello Nicklas! Great minds think alike ;)

  • @williammitchell7021

    @williammitchell7021

    Жыл бұрын

    100%

  • @TomKaszuba
    @TomKaszuba5 жыл бұрын

    You’re unquestionably one of the most sincere, talented teachers on this or any other platform. I’m very grateful for that.

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's kind, thanks Tom.

  • @bardoteachings

    @bardoteachings

    4 жыл бұрын

    I an not able to afford all of the fancy photography classes and learn all this editing skills. Thanks to Sean I learn to make better photos

  • @stanrogers5613
    @stanrogers56133 жыл бұрын

    Note: those CMYK ratio guidelines really only apply when you're using Photoshop's default CMYK settings (SWOP v2). If you actually do CMYK work in Photoshop, you may have set something else under your Color (sic) Settings and using these ratios may give, um, less-than-great results. If you try this and find your pictures look weird (and are reasonably sure your monitor is at least close to accurate), then go to your Photoshop Color Settings and make sure CMYK is set to "US Web Coated (SWOP) v2". You can always set it back after doing your skin tone corrections.

  • @akozy
    @akozy5 жыл бұрын

    This is by far the best comparison between these two cameras that I have seen so far. Thanks for making this and taking the time to go into such depth. Learned a whole lot about color correction too!

  • @Chookz85
    @Chookz855 жыл бұрын

    This video is next level. I love it when art fits a formula! Gives you a good starting point to improve your images and a foundation to tweak and create your own style. Great stuff Sean

  • @cliverose9958
    @cliverose99585 жыл бұрын

    I’m a Sony A7iii shooter and I did expect to shown how the Canon skin tones were superior and I surprised to find that even straight out of the camera I preferred the Sony image. The reason? Because it looks more realistic. But totally agree with you Sean, I never use an image straight out of camera. I think it’s vitally important to make your own decisions in photography. Your own unique vision should be applied at every stage.

  • @sudeep64ify

    @sudeep64ify

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have been a Canon shooter and now shooting Fuji. I also did prefer the Sony colours.

  • @bobhanuman65

    @bobhanuman65

    5 жыл бұрын

    There is absolutely nothing realistic about photography.

  • @cliverose9958

    @cliverose9958

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bob Hanuman, Totally agree but we’re talking about skin tones!

  • @kenjiburtley2088

    @kenjiburtley2088

    5 жыл бұрын

    It does not look more realistic. The sony colors are too cold for skin tones. it looks like the person is dead or something.

  • @cliverose9958

    @cliverose9958

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kenji Burtley, perhaps you need to spend more time looking at real people and the actual colours that combine to make skin tones. The painter Lucian Freud used to be criticised for painting people in an unflattering way because through hours of looking at a living person in front of him he noticed that the skin tone was made up of blue, purple, green, red and yellow and combinations of all of them. Yes everything looks lovely when it’s warmed up but my point is that the Sony image looks more realistic. That is personal preference because I’m interested in the way real people look.

  • @Britton0932
    @Britton09324 жыл бұрын

    I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you providing me with a baseline for editing. Having these videos takes the millions of options that photoshop provides and pairs them down to a manageable set of steps where I won’t be spending hours making a mess out of my photos. Thank you again.

  • @htorres1stk
    @htorres1stk5 жыл бұрын

    I shoot canon and absolutely am sick of the yellowish skin tones, this tutorial helped me to understand how to balance it out using your CMYK formula for skin tones. Thank you so much.

  • @michalparchimowicz
    @michalparchimowicz5 жыл бұрын

    I love how You smash all stereotypes every time and way of Your thinking about Your photography! You are the most inpirational Photographer for me. It's deep and full of meaning. THX!!!!

  • @mariannecherry1927
    @mariannecherry19275 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video!!! I’ve been struggling so much to get “proper” color in skin and you have given me a valuable formula to use! I love your honesty, candor, and humour! Hoping you keep on producing videos. You’re my number person on KZread

  • @wilhelmkarlsson9127
    @wilhelmkarlsson91275 жыл бұрын

    I've come to expect great inspirational and motivational videos from this channel. Seeing how you really deliver on the techy side of things, surpassing other videos in level detail and comprehensibility, I'd like to see more of this kind of videos from you. The mix you're offering nowadays sure is impressive Sean!

  • @grat2010
    @grat20105 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting comparison. It comes down to preference I guess. In some cases I like Canon, others I prefer Sony. Now I know how to adjust to suit my mood no matter which camera I use . Loved the information you shared in this video. Thank you!

  • @cowboys5group444

    @cowboys5group444

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not preference. Sean has Sony and can't get Canon color any more.

  • @virusj216

    @virusj216

    5 жыл бұрын

    pretty sure this person meant that it is down to the photographer's preference to shoot with either Canon or Sony..

  • @ThanosNokas
    @ThanosNokas5 жыл бұрын

    This has to be the most underrated video in photography I've ever seen. I mean, wow!

  • @austintexas29
    @austintexas295 жыл бұрын

    I love all of your videos man, and this one is no different. I really appreciate your view on cameras and not buying into the hype of certain brands because as you say, they are a starting point for us as photographers to add our own touch onto an image. Please never stop making these videos because as someone who is still relatively new to photography I am always looking to learn, and always learn loads from you. Thank you!

  • @mike.thibault
    @mike.thibault5 жыл бұрын

    WOW... I am in the process of editing a family portrait that a photographer provided us, and within 5 minutes I took her already edited photo and improved the skin tones using that simple formula. WHAT AM AMAZING DIFFERENCE!!!! BEST trick I have learned in a long time (and I have been doing a ton of learning in the past year!)

  • @r.derrickthomas7853
    @r.derrickthomas78535 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I especially appreciate the use of three different skin tones. Much of the online discussion/debate favors only one skin tone and doesn't accurately consider darker skin tones in these discussions.

  • @JensGraikowski
    @JensGraikowski5 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this show me how much I have to learn. One might think that'll scare me off, considering that I thought photography is easy, but it's just the opposite. I feel challenged and incredibly motivated. I WANT to learn it all. I just bought a camera. A Canon 60D. Second hand, but it's my first step up from my hobby, smartphone photography. Let's see, what I can do with that with the help of the videos of yourself and other great KZreadrs. Thx a bunch for all the inspiration, my friend! 👍🏼😉

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Canon 60D is a great camera. Enjoy.

  • @taraozekin
    @taraozekin3 жыл бұрын

    New-ish photographer here and I’m obsessed with your channel. You’re such an amazing teacher and you’re so insightful. Thank you!

  • @cliverose9958
    @cliverose99585 жыл бұрын

    And thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. Much appreciated!

  • @PeteBullmore
    @PeteBullmore5 жыл бұрын

    Funny how demonstrated facts effortlessly overwhelm misconceptions! As photographers we can also be sort of "color scientists" Great video Sean!

  • @subcinctus
    @subcinctus5 жыл бұрын

    It’s good that you shifted to Sony, and that’s good for us too, the other Sony users have learnt a bit about how does one fix the skin tones.

  • @sovREVERE
    @sovREVERE5 жыл бұрын

    I've been waiting for this video for a week and it did not disappoint! Thank you for covering this!

  • @oakmountain2788
    @oakmountain27885 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Sean for illuminating common misconceptions within the photographic community, and including a tutorial while doing so! Another great video

  • @Followforadventure
    @Followforadventure5 жыл бұрын

    I am just in shock, this is amazing, I never knew any of this!

  • @TristanBarrocks
    @TristanBarrocks4 жыл бұрын

    This was a great and very useful video. Very few photographers know how to capture POC and I am truly impressed by your work. Thanks

  • @wenc8796
    @wenc87965 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always packed with so much good info. This video about skin tones is one of the best out there.

  • @highcastoroil
    @highcastoroil5 жыл бұрын

    This is the type of video I've been wanting to see for so long! Thank you Sean.

  • @justaphotographer
    @justaphotographer4 жыл бұрын

    Can I just say, I really appreciate how unintrusive Sean's sponsor messages are. And such high-quality content across the channel.

  • @OniYT-WR
    @OniYT-WR5 жыл бұрын

    I was googling this info last week and couldn't find anything useful, thank you alot!!!

  • @ch1no0o
    @ch1no0o5 жыл бұрын

    Sean, Thank you for sharing this. I have always had issues with color correcting skin tones. New technique I learned today! can't wait to get try this later today!

  • @JonathanRobsonPhoto
    @JonathanRobsonPhoto5 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos Sean. Alway learn something new and something different. Really informational and very well produced. great work!

  • @Chrisdgallego
    @Chrisdgallego5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sean. Probably you already know what I'm gonna say but if not, I think is a better way to read if you need more cian..magenta.. etc. Instead of pick on curves panel . and memorize the spot where you are calculating, use the Color Sampler Tool and click over the points you want to correct the skin color, clicking once in shadows, once in highlights etc and then what you do with curves. So you'll see how your curves movements affect to the color. I think it's a bit faster. But is the same process but using multiple spots markers. I'm sorry my English and thanks for the lesson.

  • @mattiasmarklund5026
    @mattiasmarklund50265 жыл бұрын

    Very wise words! I completely agree with your statement about the strange online obsession with out-of-camera colours. I would go as far as to say that an objective colour experience does not exist, just the sensation of different flavours differs from person to person. Sure, speaking as a physicist, one can always define colours in terms of spectral properties, but this is not the way our brains process a picture or the memory of a scene. Thanks for a great video.

  • @darrelladrian5744

    @darrelladrian5744

    5 жыл бұрын

    Given that we all want a camera that can capture the colours we saw at that time of capture and we all like wide gamut monitors which we colour profile to ICC profiles why don't manufacturers make cameras that translate their colour renditions exactly to ICC colour profies? or do you think all manufacturers actually prefer to be different in order to attract different consumers

  • @JustmeJoy7
    @JustmeJoy75 жыл бұрын

    That was very informative. Thanks for taking the time to do this, it was great!

  • @AdeelJawed
    @AdeelJawed5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another amazing and informative video Sean! You rock mate!

  • @bananasandbass
    @bananasandbass5 жыл бұрын

    I'd say the final edit is closer to what Sony (gen3) does SOOC... but Canon just warms up everything more SOOC, so it seems more pleasing at first impression. Especially on an un-calibrate monitor which tend to be way too blue/cool temperature. I've personally owned an A6500, and then an A7III, and I noticed a big difference in color science from Sony since the A9, A7RIII and A7III. Not only their WhiteBalance and Metering greatly improved, but their color rendering (in Standard and Portrait for example SOOC, and default in the RAW file looks much more natural and for a lot of casual social shots I don't even have to edit the pictures of people. *also that green/yellow cast people keep talking about... such a mis-match happens when people don't select their correct camera profile in Adobe Lightroom.... if you leave it at a Adobe Standard then yes it's not going to look like you shot it. Software like Capture One handles Sony and Fuji images better because it uses the camera profile by itself. And that's mainly the step people miss. (plus I work in a camera store and can test every brand I want, so I also know Fujifilm, Nikon, Canon, Panasonic, Olympus)

  • @stolencoats63

    @stolencoats63

    5 жыл бұрын

    What is the correct camera profile for a6500?

  • @eugenekimphotography
    @eugenekimphotography5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for amazing video Just what I was trying to figure out recently

  • @lukaszbrozek
    @lukaszbrozek5 жыл бұрын

    Oh. Finally someone did this. I recently searched for video with this topic. Great as always Sean. :)

  • @HeyTomHaas
    @HeyTomHaas5 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video! What a great comparison. Definitely loved your final image! I’d love to see your entire process of editing.

  • @mailman1021
    @mailman10215 жыл бұрын

    I just found your channel after looking into Sony's a7iii. I'm a Canon shooter and have been for years since the T3i. But their lack of competitive edge in features and tech compared to Sony (especially in AF areas and IS) is horrid. These comments are also "apocalyptic" as you've stated before in your switch video and it's hilarious. I guess it comes with the territory. Between presets, editing in post, and software like Lightroom/Photoshop, I'm surprised at how many people want to nitpick. You open the file, throw on a preset and micro adjust accordingly for the look you want. Literally takes me no more than a few minutes. And if you're a professional, you may go through a round or two of edits to ensure your work is the way you want it, so it always takes time. These comments are crazy fanboys and trolls. New subscriber though as I've found your information insightful. Thank you!

  • @TheKillingTreeTT
    @TheKillingTreeTT5 жыл бұрын

    Oh that CMYK guideline is just gorgeous and a tool or skill that separates the men from the boys in the retouch department. Great video and explaination. Straight out of camera is really not that important since you are going to give the final image a look anyway.

  • @leoc4013
    @leoc40135 жыл бұрын

    This is awesome to see a comparison like this and the tips on getting skin tone right. Thanks for the video.

  • @Shvvanky
    @Shvvanky5 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I just wanted to say, I've only just found your videos, but I'm so glad I did. So far I've watched this and your video on why you switched to Sony. As a Canon boy, who loves Fuji but is looking between Sony and a 1DXII for his next body, I found your input to be the most insightful of anyone I've seen on KZread. You're transparent and clear in thought and intention. So thank you. I don't care to see someone's workflow or buy their presets, I care to see nuance and minor things people do. The between the lines stuff that I might be missing or might want to avoid, and I really feel like I get more of that here. Also, I love the final edit on this, your color work is what I aspire to produce.

  • @Motortriker
    @Motortriker5 жыл бұрын

    Wow. I've never come across this CMYK formula before. Great stuff.

  • @PK-ql5en

    @PK-ql5en

    5 жыл бұрын

    Probably because it is an old formula used most of the time in UK for glossy magazines. In USA and Japan they use a different one for that.

  • @akghosal

    @akghosal

    5 жыл бұрын

    I just tried this formula and my pictures came out sickly green (must have been doing something wrong)

  • @godboy159

    @godboy159

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@akghosal I found that this videos finals look green as well.

  • @Size10Soles
    @Size10Soles5 жыл бұрын

    All I can say is wow. This is the best video explaining canon vs sony color science. I have went back and forth from Canon and Sony because of color science. I now own the Sony A7iii and I am glad I went back to Sony. The details you get from Sony are just the best. Thanks for making this video.

  • @agustinu
    @agustinu5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing videos Sean... you have no idea how much they help... super clever and so dense in content. God bless you

  • @DuckyOpus
    @DuckyOpus5 жыл бұрын

    As often as I've seen this video linked and shared in forums, Facebook pages, and discussions elsewhere, it astounds me it only has 71k views (currently). This video is fantastic and very well done. Thanks again, Sean.

  • @scotty4418
    @scotty44185 жыл бұрын

    Sean, this was a fascinating episode and thought your final edit looked fantastic and as you said if you want to apply your own particular style, is the camera brand such an important issue at the end of the day if you can make requisite changes post production.

  • @BetterWithImprov
    @BetterWithImprov4 жыл бұрын

    Here it is over a year later and this video added so much value to me. It absolutely worked. Thank you for demonstrating an AA skin tone as proof. I tested on different subjects and my photography was so much improved. I even did faces that were on stage under colored lights and it repaired them back to a natural look. Amazing Sean.....

  • @AngelCarnico
    @AngelCarnico5 жыл бұрын

    As always very interesting. Nicely presented. Keep up the good work!

  • @Mr.mallaer
    @Mr.mallaer4 жыл бұрын

    This is the type of content not available on any photography channels. They are all rehashing same stuff that any hobby photographer already knows let alone professional. Thank you for your content.

  • @rhmimages
    @rhmimages5 жыл бұрын

    I would have loved to have seen Fuji X-T3 in that same comparison. Your final edits are really great. Hope the subjects liked them too.

  • @chrisjames7489

    @chrisjames7489

    5 жыл бұрын

    As a former long time Fuji owner (multiple camera generations) Fuji skin tones are really not all that. They are Canon ish but tend more toward an overall yellow. They certainly aren't bad, but the default "Provia" look had skin tones I really grew to hate. But RAW processing made it all good, similar to most systems. Now on Sony with no regrets. I did love the Fuji system though, and they have fixed a lot of my gripes with the Xt-3 (Had XT-1 and Xt-2)

  • @erikdurnall9996
    @erikdurnall99965 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Since switching to Sony I have found the cooler tones to be refreshing and more intimate. All these cameras are wonderful tools. I feel like the industry has been revitalized with this shift to mirrorless.

  • @mumrik
    @mumrik5 жыл бұрын

    Great content as usual. I'm not into shooting portraits much but I'm still learning a lot from your videos!

  • @MyekalBenham
    @MyekalBenham5 жыл бұрын

    This all makes way to much sense for the Internet to comprehend. Love your work Sean. Keep it up

  • @michaelgebauer5235
    @michaelgebauer52355 жыл бұрын

    Creating ICC camera profiles in case of Capture One is the easiest way to “normalize” the color rendering. Best regards Michael

  • @cptbrncls7050

    @cptbrncls7050

    5 жыл бұрын

    any link to a how-to for doing that Michael?

  • @batwork4031

    @batwork4031

    5 жыл бұрын

    Please.

  • @huwmorgan51

    @huwmorgan51

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say something similar. I don't think we are looking at sensor differences as much as we are looking at the way Capture One renders the raw files for each of these cameras. An ICC profile would improve the color rendering.

  • @dennishumbla5431

    @dennishumbla5431

    4 жыл бұрын

    I downloaded a ICC profile for Capture One that someone hade made to make Sony color look more lite Fujifilm, that was great.

  • @garbygarb31

    @garbygarb31

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dennis Humbla do you have a link you could share ?

  • @rafai1281
    @rafai12815 жыл бұрын

    When I saw the title I was "Stop this canon color nonsense when I was using canon I was editing colors when I'm using sony... I still edit colors", then I watched the movie and I'm smiling :). good work

  • @JCANPetros
    @JCANPetros5 жыл бұрын

    This was exactly what I was looking for! Very good tutorial. Getting skin tone right is so tricky and so I found this helpful. I glad you chose to edit skin tones from different ethnicities to- very practical.

  • @TheOneAndOnlyTed
    @TheOneAndOnlyTed5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. It not only was informational and helped me understand how to better edit photos, but also it reaffirmed what i always thought, that out of camera colors aren't all that important if you can edit, cause you will most of the time anyways. Just having a good place to start is more important and then you add your own personal flare and unique aspects to fit the piece.

  • @4voxel
    @4voxel5 жыл бұрын

    yayy another videooo ,,, love your content

  • @altern8ive
    @altern8ive5 жыл бұрын

    lives at 73A uses A73 ha 👍

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Never noticed that:)

  • @AntonTvHD

    @AntonTvHD

    5 жыл бұрын

    Superb attention to detail take a bow!! I love when peeps point out these things it makes me smile

  • @archithkamath6371

    @archithkamath6371

    5 жыл бұрын

    I also noticed it 😁🔥

  • @harrypehkonen

    @harrypehkonen

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ha! My first reaction was to try to find it with street-view. I failed.

  • @markdemarte6744
    @markdemarte67445 жыл бұрын

    Sean, as someone who struggles with every portrait I make in deciding if my skin tones are where they should be, I can't thank you enough for this video. It is brilliant in its simplicity. (And so quickly applied that any excuse for not correcting skin tones can no longer be considered valid. You are a wonderful photographer and a generous teacher. I learn so much from your videos and watch them over and over. I take notes. I test out your advice. But best of all, I incorporate so much of what you teach in my workflow. You've got me shooting B&W again. You've got me setting my exposure manually again. And you should be proud of this one, you've got me getting off my ass and taking my Sony a7ii out the door every day. I'm trying to stay in B&&W for now, and I go out looking for things that have a predominance of either shape, line or texture. Thinking in B&W definitely takes practice and its work that taxes the brain. I love it. Your inspiration causes me not to fear shooting even shooting in bright sunlight at high noon. And now I can add contrast to my portraits with unbelievable control. So again Sean, thank you. for sharing your genius and bringing added fun to shooting pictures.

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's very kind, thanks Mark.

  • @francescomidknight8621
    @francescomidknight86214 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for another great video. When it comes to photography your content is best!

  • @NickGranville
    @NickGranville5 жыл бұрын

    I agree with your findings. I’ve heard a few people lately say the canon colour science is better. This implies people don’t edit their work. To me, the canon has more of a shift which can be a problem, especially as I find a shift to red/magenta. The Sony is more natural and it all depends what you prefer. Can always make the Sony look like more the canon of you want. The Sony offers many other advantages.

  • @shebbe

    @shebbe

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm a filmeditor/colorist and as much as I'd like to agree to his statement that in the end you make it your color anyway, it is fair to say not having to make up for a camera's flaws is simply a huge timesaver. If colorscience or sensorquality/calibartion wouldn't matter at all because we fix it in post anyway, we would all just be shooting on cheap consumer camera's wouldn't we. For film being able to colorgrade a RED film is just much more pleasing than an FS7 or A7S because I can spend much more time creating an actual pretty image instead of fighting skintones.

  • @NickGranville

    @NickGranville

    5 жыл бұрын

    Shebbe Music a great image is more than just colour. Higher end cameras roll off the highlights in a more pleasing way. Dynamic range is far greater etc. I agree that getting it right in camera is ideal, but I also don’t feel canon get it right in camera any more than Sony do. Both need editing was my point. I find canon tend to over do the red and magenta. Sony the greens. Both need work. However when comparing like for like the Sony’s have more detail, are often more stable etc etc. I know I’m generalising - i’m referring to the cameras I’ve personally used and the results I’ve got.

  • @benbofficial
    @benbofficial5 жыл бұрын

    Hey sean, could you share with us your process to achieve the final image between the 2 cameras? I love the final image and I too shot with canon and moved to the sony a7III. Cheers!

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Check out my editing video from my Mentor Portraits. A lot of the techniques are in there.

  • @marcfrederic1168

    @marcfrederic1168

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ben something out of the topic,I do shoot with the a7iii and a metabones iv I experience a sort of shutterlag,is there a way around it or have you faced something like so? Thanks in advance

  • @theatifaks
    @theatifaks5 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Sean. Gained quite new insights from your video. Keep up the great work.

  • @PrimalOutdoors
    @PrimalOutdoors5 жыл бұрын

    Great video I am definitely going to try out that formula on my next portrait shoot. Jason

  • @AndrewGoodCamera
    @AndrewGoodCamera5 жыл бұрын

    Yes! The biggest problem for me wasn't in color cast when I used Sony instead of Fuji (which is what we usually do) for portraits for the last four months. It was that it seemed to bring out every skin flaw. My wife picked up on it instantly, in my photos of her, and she hates it.

  • @Dance1617

    @Dance1617

    5 жыл бұрын

    start shooting wide open or get better at retouching lol thats the trade off for higher resolution and sharper resolution lmao.

  • @MegaWeitzel

    @MegaWeitzel

    5 жыл бұрын

    Just take it back out, by using negative sharpness for ooc JPEG, or in capture one just use the skin color tool. It is much better for skin color management in general than PS or Lightroom

  • @EversonBernardes

    @EversonBernardes

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Dance1617 it's not just higher resolution and sharper images, though. Canon seems to tune their CFAs so they're less discriminating to blue/teal. The skin tends to have a lot of undesirable blue components in veins and other blemishes. A side effect of that is that their deep lush greens tend to be yellower.

  • @OhFishyFish

    @OhFishyFish

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've got Fuji X-T2 and I hate its waxy skin tones. Even RAW file seem to be somewhat processed in camera so editing won't fix it.

  • @ivanulyanov3461
    @ivanulyanov34615 жыл бұрын

    Really nice comparison video! I feel like I got some interesting and precise technical information from it, as well as some good thoughts on what it means in practical terms. As someone who mostly paints portraits instead of shooting them, I found the even, consistent yellow skintones of a Canon quite upsetting and lifeless. They do have a certain punchy, pleasant quality to them, which probably makes it a good match for fashion photography, but the Sony colours felt much more natural and rich (as in "varied", which is a good thing, at least in painting) to me.

  • @ChurroWaffles
    @ChurroWaffles4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the info you give especially the tone curves and why they have one for R, G, and B. For somebody who says they’re not technical you explain a lot of technical stuff pretty well. I’m currently working on a portrait shoot for my workplace and I get frustrated because I’m pretty new to photography but I have so many ideas and I can’t get them to translate to the pictures. Your videos are really helpful and the fact that I use the same camera(even though it doesn’t really matter) helps a lot. Thank you. I look forward to seeing more of your videos.

  • @MrMetelhead
    @MrMetelhead5 жыл бұрын

    If I could only have one channel, it would be this one. Sensible, grounded and such good content. Thank you again and again Sean.

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate:)

  • @noenken
    @noenken5 жыл бұрын

    Sony has basically adopted the Zeiss mentality about how their stuff should look: as real as possible. Canon makes it easy to get a pleasing image but they are limiting you when that isn't your goal. Very good and informative video.

  • @cowboys5group444

    @cowboys5group444

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sony color is not real. Watch the video again. Nikon gets as close to real along with Canon. Sean couldn't match Caonon color and he even said that n the video.

  • @thefrogtog8361

    @thefrogtog8361

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, and one thing biased here is the lens. Canon colors are due in part to the lens. Here the Sony image was warmed up by the canon lens. Sony + Zeiss would be a lot cooler and even more unnatural looking.

  • @debbydhill
    @debbydhill5 жыл бұрын

    Well done

  • @bluetackphotograph
    @bluetackphotograph5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sean, couldn't agree more about out of camera tones not really mattering, as we all edit after anyway. Love your tips and as usual you've given us another simple yet effective way to delicately refine an image.

  • @dreamy1855
    @dreamy18555 жыл бұрын

    Great video and an awesome tip on skin tone adjustments going forwards. Like you I switched from canon to Sony so I’ll be interested to see how this works out on my next work. Thanks as always for the great information. I’m really enjoying these editing videos I hope we keep seeing more 🙏i

  • @Caracalaba
    @Caracalaba5 жыл бұрын

    stop getting into my mind and doing the exact videos I want to watch!

  • @Jworldvisualz

    @Jworldvisualz

    5 жыл бұрын

    Señor Calabaza I know right! Lol

  • @TheMPTV
    @TheMPTV5 жыл бұрын

    I think its the anti aliasing at work for the Canon, that is why its soft and less super detail

  • @alexstephen1647
    @alexstephen16475 жыл бұрын

    As always, amazing. Far and away better than most channels on the subject

  • @amentet
    @amentet5 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Sean. You're the best!

  • @IanBursill
    @IanBursill5 жыл бұрын

    I don't shoot Canon or Sony so I'm unbiased. The Sony files are better to my eyes. More detail in the skin. Yes, both cameras aren't really neutral, the Sony have a magenta shift, the Canon a yellow shift. All correctable in software though so no problem.

  • @sanzlenaic1700

    @sanzlenaic1700

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes you are right about the magenta. But when you are retouching and color grading it's better "yellow" tone.... I think it's more a question of interpretation.

  • @merlinalfonso6374

    @merlinalfonso6374

    5 жыл бұрын

    Canon has never had a yellow shift. That's what's weird about this video.

  • @ThomasDutour
    @ThomasDutour5 жыл бұрын

    Canon is supposed to have the better skin tones but interestingly enough your final edit is closer to the Sony than the Canon.

  • @leticiali

    @leticiali

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would actually say that the final edited image looks... exactly like the Sony straight out of camera!

  • @Lyander25

    @Lyander25

    5 жыл бұрын

    Personal preference always plays a role in these things. I used to be the kind to want photos to turn out EXACTLY as in real life, but the more I play with the hobby (as a filthy casual and not a professional, haha), I've found myself leaning more towards the school of thought that considers photography an artform as much as any other, and like _any_ form of artistic expression, the golden rule is "to each their own".

  • @WeizenGourmet

    @WeizenGourmet

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well true for the dark skin. The white man skin looked better on Canon to my eyes.

  • @iandavis1355

    @iandavis1355

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@leticiali I don't have the person in front of me to really compare what I see with my own eyes and what was edited for me. However, I think the browns in the Final Edit have a richer, more chocolate-like appearance than the OOC Sony (with slight colour cast) shot. My own facial hair and skin colours seem pretty close to the white guy's colours and from my personal experience--without a tan--we both have a bit of pink in the pale areas of the skin and where the skin is tight around knuckles and elbows. Out of camera I'd say the Sony image is closer but it still requires colour correcting. Which, of course, the Canon requires too.

  • @bastianomalley
    @bastianomalley5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this, Sean! Game changer.

  • @TechOnMexico
    @TechOnMexico5 жыл бұрын

    totally worth the time watching this. Thanks again Sean

  • @FinalManaTrigger
    @FinalManaTrigger5 жыл бұрын

    Canon's skin tones are too warm, Sony's too cool. Thanks for showing us side-by-side!

  • @78285725
    @782857255 жыл бұрын

    When you shoot raw, information is more important than color. you can always change the color you like or soft the detail as you like. But you can't bring more dynamic range back or bring details back.

  • @NxsRuin

    @NxsRuin

    5 жыл бұрын

    Too bad most(?) camera companies advertise raw access, but deliver files with irreversible and often destructive DSP algorithms applied. (It's called bait and switch marketing and is illegal many places).

  • @adrianzaharia8885
    @adrianzaharia88855 жыл бұрын

    Best video regarding photography issues ever. Cheers man!

  • @nicolinogiangiordano1680
    @nicolinogiangiordano16805 жыл бұрын

    Clear, logical, informative and above all sensible, as always. A great video. Thank you.

  • @prasand
    @prasand5 жыл бұрын

    "my god is more real than yours." #fanboyarguments another great video, loved the CMYK formula tidbit. **thumbsup**

  • @spondoolie6450
    @spondoolie64505 жыл бұрын

    Sony is sharper. Sharpness is better ... you can color grade in post if you want the over-saturated look.

  • @cdave2006

    @cdave2006

    5 жыл бұрын

    well mark III here, mark IV would add sharpness or 5dsr for portrait wich would be 100 iso and would be even sharper.

  • @DreamReleases

    @DreamReleases

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sharpness isn't always better in portraits. People don't want to see their pores.

  • @spondoolie6450

    @spondoolie6450

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@DreamReleases I know ... a lot of people want to have that melted skin look.

  • @sanzlenaic1700

    @sanzlenaic1700

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@spondoolie6450 Mostly photographers or clients will publish in Facebook...So sharp or not doesn't change anything

  • @spondoolie6450

    @spondoolie6450

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sanzlenaic1700 Then why don't you just shoot with your smart phone if that's your opinion? There, I just saved you hundreds of dollars.

  • @LProds
    @LProds5 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always so informative. So very well done. They're just a pleasure to watch. I switched to Sony from Canon, and I'm also partially color blind like yourself so I can relate. I definitely liked "your skin tone" over either the Sony's or Canon's. Great job.

  • @jefffairman1316
    @jefffairman13165 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic information as always Sean!

  • @vagaries3270
    @vagaries32705 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to lock your front door! ;) Thanks for the video mate.

  • @timoteiafanasie4894

    @timoteiafanasie4894

    5 жыл бұрын

    In England, they have doors with that kind of old Yale locks, so when you slam it on your way out it is locked. You need a key just to open it. Just saying :-)

  • @vagaries3270

    @vagaries3270

    5 жыл бұрын

    He left it on the catch though :)

  • @lindsaywebb1904

    @lindsaywebb1904

    5 жыл бұрын

    i don't think he was actually going anywhere ;-)

  • @seantuck

    @seantuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually mate it locks on it way out as a deadbolt, and you lock the second lock from the outside. I assume you’re joking though.

  • @lindsaywebb1904

    @lindsaywebb1904

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@seantuck , well from me, it was just a quiet nod towards out of sequence shooting in film making...and or continuity - you youtubers are raising the bar in that regard. The only difference one often sees between these home productions and some more ahem, autofocus. I'm sure that'll be sorted sooner or later. BTW Nice video.

  • @AllCarsUnited
    @AllCarsUnited5 жыл бұрын

    The amount of detail lost from the canon makes it less than ideal. It's always easier to subtract than it is to add. Anyone can tweak colors in post but it's the valuable extra information that will always give more of a artistic freedom in the end

  • @DreamReleases

    @DreamReleases

    5 жыл бұрын

    Except "artistic freedom" isn't what's required when getting ethnic skins tones to the customer's desire.

  • @eigojiyouzu
    @eigojiyouzu4 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos,,,your final edit was gorgeous

  • @IchinShek
    @IchinShek5 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know I needed this formula in my life; but now that it is, thank you

  • @RathJ13
    @RathJ135 жыл бұрын

    canon fanboys: "THE COLOR SCIENCE THOOOO" Everyone else: "Post Processing exists, even canon users do it..."

  • @Ben-fq1lj

    @Ben-fq1lj

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rath Empire lol yeah “But....but color science! REEEEEE!!!!”

  • @alexmeier19

    @alexmeier19

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because in video you have no RAW.... With RAW it doesn't really matter. But for video it's a big thing though, beacuase the camera does a lot of preprocessing

  • @frijin490

    @frijin490

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good that i shoot RAW. I can make sony look canon and laugh for misconceptions.

  • @palysmedia5276

    @palysmedia5276

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alexmeier19 its actually not, guess youve never heard of log profiles.

  • @alexmeier19

    @alexmeier19

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@palysmedia5276 haha of course I had, but log profiles are not nearly as good as RAW. video you have still 8 bit while raw is 14 bit. 2^8 vs 2^14. 64x more info!

  • @STRAlGHTxEDGE
    @STRAlGHTxEDGE5 жыл бұрын

    Action: Makes video with a conclusion about how in the end brands their specific colors don't really matter because of post-processing. Reaction: Comments are flooded with people talking about how one brand's colors are being superior over the other. PLAY THE MUSIC STEVE!

  • @kevinrtres
    @kevinrtres5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the effort in making this video - a real great way to adjust skin tones without a fuss.

  • @kaliorify
    @kaliorify3 жыл бұрын

    Sean, thank you for this very helpful video. As usual, your honest approach is an inspiration on its own.