I don’t understand why people have a hard time understanding that before modern industrialism, being a craftsman was honourable and everything was done by hand. It’s as if people have forgotten their own capabilities

@musicpatron1693

5 ай бұрын

Yup

@Nockturnmortem

4 ай бұрын

True.

@acx207

2 ай бұрын

This is extreme craftsmanship

I love your videos! Thank you for sharing with us. ❤

Great video and commentary, couldn't agree more, they had tech we have not rediscovered yet....

So many different sized blocks of oddly shaped stone interconnected so perfectly. Its like the builders were deliberately showing off.

@musicpatron1693

5 ай бұрын

It took 20,000 people and over 50 years to do this.. they worked without currency, but managed two jobs.. one for family and one for government.. The way it was built helped preserve it during natural disasters... also they knew how to do brain surgery without a written language

@musicpatron1693

5 ай бұрын

Is possible they softened the stone but some of these rocks are estimated to be 20 tons

@trevorsloan2047

4 ай бұрын

Earthquake proof, made with concrete, I think it's a Chanel for water and the indentations are were they placed the water wheels the other canal is for Comercial use, trade no shit. I'm won in there was an alternate canal system to traverse south amerca as well. Could sail in and out from Africa to China visa versa.

Beautiful. Thanks Harvey!

Very intriguing! Thankyou ❤️

Just a brilliant site - well done.

They are coming

How and why the technic and the the experts vanished all over from India ,Egypt, Peru , etc. And simultaneously or one by one ?Why they didn't gave their knowledge to next generations ? ...waiting for experts to comment and guide !❤🎉 ❤🎉

In some of the video, you can see where the block above has a more rounded bottom curvature, whereas the stone just below, appears that they used a knife to cut away the stone that bulged out as the above stone was put in place. It would bulge the lower stone, so it was then cut away to remove the bulge. There are several spots in the video showing this. It appears to be common that the upper stone is more rounded, and the stone below is more of a straight "cut" removing the excess.

@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764

Жыл бұрын

Hmm,,, interesting observation. Thank you for that!

@redwoodcoast

Жыл бұрын

I think what you are describing is commonly called beveling... as is done with stone concrete using a trowel.

@edstar83

9 ай бұрын

The Inca only had copper and bronze tools and weapons. So that rules them out.

Hi, Loved the place and I've been there a bunch of times and I would have to disagree with you but with respect. I'm from a family of Masons from Crete at least 7 generations and when I was there I saw every stone surface covered with chip marks, not saying they were copper chisels etc, but definitely evidence of chipping. Also after 1000's of pics taken there I came to the conclusion that they are probably not "Scoop Marks" in my opinion, they seemed to have been either vandalized/renovated by the Inca to suit their needs after taking over the area, and maybe even looted it as well with those deeper scoop marks on certain stones that were likely anchor supports for things like the Sun Plaque in Koricancha, and most definitely made of solid Gold. great vido btw, thank for sharing

You made it to Peru! That's awesome -- and congrats on another great video. You share some good evidence in favor of the stone softening theory. Those curved corners in the masonry are incredible, aren't they? Did you notice the "paw" in the stone assembly (middle of screen at 3:31 and 3:50)?

I’ve been there and was just as amazed as you were. It’s hard to believe the Inca’s built this. They didn’t have the technology to creat this. Not sure if we can now.

Those corners at the beginning of video were ground with a stone cylinder. No one wants to talk about the stone cylinders they used to construct these sites.

cheers mate

Difinitely those builders 600 years ago are way more intelligent and talented with their simple tools that what we have today.

These walls are like the pages of a book.They tell us a story,they send us a message.They are like the pages of a book written in the Braille alphabet.From Japan to Peru have common elements.Every joint,the inclination at a certain angle,those "nubs", all have a meaning.Form a written text.

It has been suggested that Sacsayhuaman is akin to the Qhipa, in that there is some kind of story in the construction and composition of the stones. The interpretation I heard a guy give on KZread was wacko, but the idea that Sacsayhuaman tells a story, or contains information would explain the irregularities in it's construction. IMHO

how did they reduce the weight of the stone ?

I am not convinced these rock walls were built by softening hard stone rather that they were vibrated violently into place. as iron sharpens Iron so too does Granite smooth off granite. Try rubbing two lumps of sand stone together and see how the action creates a smooth surface between the two stones. Scale this theory up to granite with some sort of arm that holds onto the next stone to be fitted violently shaking and letting gravity press the top stone into the lower stone. Th arm would have to also be able to have some lateral pressure to also achieve the side edges. Evidence to back this up is left in the very heavy stones with the scoops just above the bottom surface seen here 3:48 It is very obvious that two scoops are equally spaced apart as if a two fingered claw has grabbed them and the shaking that the fingers have applied to the stone has created two equally spaced diverts in the stone. In some cases, the finger claw was moved along the stone for a new purchase on the stone as more vibration was required to complete the fit. Once you see the equally space scoops you can't unsee it.

The ruler wanted it rounded so easy or hard... You have to do it lol

Beautiful photography . Thank you. Softening, grinding, scooping, chipping or chiseling. Yes, important questions. But after why, Designed by who, and when. Design is form, following function… so what is this ? Thank you

Wonderful video! Could I use some footage on my KZread channel for a commentary?

Through the dry fitted masonry techniques of caninacukpirca, the Incas shaped their stone to conceal natural outcrops, fit tight crevices, and ultimately incorporate the landscape into their infrastructure. The Inca also used natural bedrock as their structural foundations (to help keep the buildings stable).

2:39 If the stone were"softend" would not the quarts viens running though the granite be also bent and curved when the stone was worked in its "softend "state?

@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764

Жыл бұрын

Great comment! and,, Actually, in Ollantaytambo, there are examples of that and I plan to show that in a very short video next month!

@Timbo_tango

Жыл бұрын

@@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764 I’m keen to see whatever examples you have.

How could such rock weight be manuvered?

Any society that has survived a devastating earthquake and watched it destroy and topple their hard work is going to do what humans do. Use innovative ideas to come up with a solution. These stones won't topple.

To me it seems that they had the ability to melt stone and poor it into some sort of bags and it hardened in those bags. I wouldn't be surprised to find traces of that material of the "bags" in the middle, between 2 rocks

@lonniecole1435

10 ай бұрын

It would take huge bags. Maybe they could brush on a liquid stone softener which only soften an inch or two of the surface. They could scrape off bumps as well as mold two softened stones to each other. One view shows faint but clear 5 inch vertical parallel scrape marks on its large flat surface. think of molding the icing on a cake.

If they can be softened then shouldn't it be easy to prove it? The stone used is from the nearby quarry.

It could be done with a chisel. It would be hard. People did hard things. The real question is how did they lift it but again people did hard things.

It must have made sense to them. I just wanna see the tools. No dam way they used copper chisels

Hello its ancient concrete, all the Inca repair work screems to ones eyes.

was another civilization before us. i think

What so you mean by softening the stone? 🙄

1.45万年以前的建筑，

If sumarian star map the super nova tsunami hit on west side of peru

I don't necessarily believe that we would have to have been visited by an alien race to aquire the technology. I mean there was an obvious explosion of our abilities that I fail to understand, but the stone softening tech is right there in black and white. Imagine stacking marshmallows into a small wall and pressing them tightly together. You would see this same type of "pooching" (the edges, not the knubbs) as you see in these megalithic walls. Without thinking too far into where we acquired the knowledge, I believe we used sonic vibration via acoustics. Friction creates heat and sonic vibration is nothing more than Friction on a micro level. We see staffs with tuning forks depicted everywhere. But only in the hands of the ancient ruling class. I believe it's just a technology that we lost because it went to the graves with those rulers. I believe it's a technology that can be found again and then we can be amazed for a short while as we were about the microwave oven and how it magically cook's food

Hiya I think Sacsayhuaman is made of ancient concrete blocks, somehow material was pulverized from the quarys and transported in sacks to the “building site” where the concrete was made and poured into big flexible moulds to dry/cure, the knobs protruding could be relief points to extract excess material? I am peruvian and now I am pretty sure the Incas who where bronze man did not build Sacsayhuaman, Ollantaytambo or the Koricancha megalithic structures …but most Peruvians will never accept this (awful) true while authorities don’t want to know anything about this subject, if you discuss with tour guides they will laugh it off and accuse you of being an “”allienist” story teller.

@intriguingmegalithicperspe1764

Жыл бұрын

Sacsayhuaman does look like slag stone. Like it was heavily blended together like a type of concrete! But then there are also stones that don't look like that at all. Some with a grain and cleaner look.

Looks 100% to me like expected toolmarks from hand tools. Curves are created by removing material.

@Allworldsk1

Жыл бұрын

No way. Something special happened here.! 👌🏻

@Eyes_Open

Жыл бұрын

@@Allworldsk1 special yes. But hand made.

@BlackStarEOP

Жыл бұрын

@@Allworldsk1 Look up a paper called "on the reddish glittery mud the inca used for perfecting their stone masonry" it hypotheses a chemical treatment

@danhallett4952

Жыл бұрын

You’ve never worked on anything, as a builder, this is certainly beyond astounding. But sounds like you’re a know it all, you’ve got all of life’s answers.

@Eyes_Open

Жыл бұрын

@@danhallett4952 "certainly beyond astounding". Sounds like you have decided on a belief based on personal amazement that automatically means that nobody else can have any understanding of the situation. You have absolved yourself from searching for any practical knowledge.

Sorry, but I don't think it was plant solution. Rather it was some kind of machine/artifact. And I think it was only single in the world and through eras was moved from place to place. I suppose it was placed directly in the quarry, that's why bedrock in target places wasn't softened. What cut/shape was made with softened rock was dependant on local tools and skills. In here they only made polygonal walls. In Egipt they were squeezing softened granite through forms to get advanced uniformal curved shapes. Egiptians also used string on tension to cut super straight surfaces. Copper pipes were used to drill holes and soften basalt or granite was poured to clay or wooden forms to get impossible shaped jars. But because there was only one tool, usage was restricted, therefore they didn't made uniformal stone blocks in large quantities like we do nowadays. And that's why some granite have marks similar to use of power tools or circular saws even when they really were cut by normal tools. Also technique couldn't be replicated when there was no access to the softening tool even with skills and knowledge. That's why repairs look crude, even if they were made by same person later. If they were really plants accessible in different parts of the world, I don't think this technique would disappear like it did.

@zinzin8891

Жыл бұрын

So you are right, it was softening technique, but it was rather advanced softening artifact/tool to use on every kind of non geopolymer stone (granite etc.) with use of other normal tools to shape drill and cut. Also I doubt that aliens themselves would do construction work for some primitive locals, but alien tool used by humans to earn some easy money is another matter. I'm not saying if it was definitely an alien origin tool, but other origin is even harder to explain.

I'm not saying it was Aliens...

😮Parese ser que hubo una civilizasion pre Inca ! Cuando llegaron los Incas esas estructuras Alli estaban..

We have to step back and look at what 3:33 actually shows and means, including by thinking how else it could be / have been done. The primary signals this construction "gives off" are of a kind of arrogance, and indeed ease... Beyond that, we have difficulties in discerning if this approach is sophisticated ... or simplistic, and again we come to the conclusion that we are somehow being "scoffed at". Any kid can build a weakish building with smoothed wooden blocks of standardised size, knowing that the first mini-move towards strengthening is to have them overlap in each layer, as opposed to exactly on top of each other in piles. Building with standardised smoothed wooden blocks of several different sizes can also be done by a kid, e.g. with main supporting structure and fill-in. Rough blocks might hold together better (friction) but you'd also have gaps. The Lego or similar that most kids use also uses the overlap method as basic, but also with pegs and holes to increase strength vastly between layers, but only vertically, not laterally, where there is absolute smoothness. Most kids would build with a tendency to go straight up, but some might realise that a pyramid (tendency to build inwards at higher levels) also conveys strength and safety. In the above, we go back to first principles and ask if there is any size or shape standardisation of the blocks as or before they were brought to the site - and the answer would be "at best limited". There is (quite naturally) a sort-of rule that end blocks are extra large, and that upper layers are of rather smaller blocks, but that's about it. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the core rule of this construction is "the next block to be fitted in against the block already in place can be any block, of a wide variety of shapes and sizes, and will simply be made to fit ... just as other blocks added subsequently will be made to fit to that". While this method / approach has the presence of over overlapping and even a certain Lego-type interdigitation between layers vertically and horizontally (and hence vast strength) as a BY-PRODUCT or SIDE EFFECT of the "arrogant" approach taken, it is not clear that this is the CORE motivation for the technique. Indeed, it would be quite hard to suggest that it was. Rather the core motivation looks like the order given to build with what you have at the given moment, irrespective of what that means for the amount of work involved! Who builds like that? In what circumstances? The people who made the drystone walls in England and elsewhere (whose walls slope somewhat inwards as they rise) would also take any block that came along, but they would still rotate for best fit, as well as having several possible places along the wall where the next piece might go, and they DELIBERATELY accepted gaps for drainage and reduced wind resistance and maybe other reasons too. Here we seem to be seeing selectivity of the next block close to zero, followed by an INCREDIBLY far-reaching process to ensure perfection of fit. Hence the very specific combination of total lack of care about the choice of next building unit (which looks unsophisticated), followed by IMMENSE (looking or seeming) effort to ensure that, whatever next block is dictated for use, it will fit perfectly by the end of the shaping process (which looks HIGHLY sophisticated). How is something simultaneously sophisticated, but not???? It is easy to imagine someone of absolute power giving the order as to which stone to use next, and someone of absolute skill then working on it. But the consequence of that would be for the latter person to endlessly decry the arrogant stupidity of the former. What kind of tension is that? How would it survive long-term? In normal conditions, if the selector of stones is the same as the shaper of stones it WOULD NOT work like this in the long term, as INEVITABLY, the selection process would be pursued to ensure reduced labour on the shaping process. This is - I believe - the essence of what we cannot simply fathom about what we see above. It is hard to fathom EVEN if slaves afraid for their lives at any second did it, even if master craftsmen highly rewarded monetarily or spiritually (or even by treats) were involved. In ANY of these scenarios the human imperative / "lust" to achieve shortcuts would kick in. The above issues do NOT fade away entirely even if we assume extreme versions of aspects of the story like ... the blocks were actually easy to lift, the blocks were actually soft and easy to shape. For example, at 3:33, what justifies the triangular piece we see, or the occasional hexagonal piece? Just for the fun of it??? These problems only go away slightly if we argue that the shapes are aesthetically pleasing, and so this was a work of art as well as merely a work construction. [At some sites we know "snakes" can be made out along the wall design]. For good or ill, the only REAL way out here is Harry Potter getting out his wand and saying "make a wall out of the stones that are randomly available here and make sure they fit together so well and so strongly there are no gaps". And fankly speaking I'm not really joking... [In a Hogwarts context, the key issues would be use of any available materials (including sub-optimal), a strong will to achieve a rapid result, limitless amounts of power / energy capable of being harnessed, a complete lack of interest/knowledge/experience/expertise in process or means or source - indeed an interest that tends towards chaos of methodology but achieves perfection in the ordering of outcome. We BTW read that JK Rowling spent about 5 years determining what the limits of magic from her characters might be, and Hermione for example tells her fellows that, while food ingredients can be magicked into a meal (instant mixing, cooking, arranging, etc.), the basic food components cannot be magicked into existence].

If the stone were soft, wouldn't it have sagged, and shifted due to weight, as opposed to the straight vertical lines and taller-than-wide shapes we see?? They had extremely high tech stone cutting tools and superior knowledge or intelligence. The rocks were quarried, regardless of whether or not people think they were softened before being placed as walls/structures.

@Allworldsk1

Жыл бұрын

If they had the technology to soften up the stone they definitely had the technology to soften it to different degrees of softness. You understand that?

@Freddy-Da-Freeloadah

Жыл бұрын

There are "Quarries" around Cusco and other locations in Peru. EVERYTHING IS MELTED IN SOME OF THESE PLACES!!. The theory that a youtuber has is the Inca found a chemical in the process of mining copper that softened or melted basalt rocks. He's kind of specific! He says it's a mixture of Oxalic Acid and Iron Pyrite... Nobodies tried it? Probably because it does not work... And I forget the name of his channel... Sorry! The other theory is it was an extract from a tree. The myth is they saw a bird insert a twig from a certain tree in a crack in a rocky cliff. Later the bird was able to build a nest in the cliff, because there was a hole where the stick had been. But nobody really knows... They may have simply used giant silver mirrors to focus the heat of the sun onto the part of the stone they wanted to soften? One of the stones at Sacsayhuaman has a large hole melted in the center. Maybe a combination of chemicals and heat focusing mirrors did the job? I don't think todays' stone cutting tools could achieve the three dimensional shaping we see in and around Cusco. Then there is the transportation and placement of the stones... High tech? My theory is they used ICE! IMHO

@bfboobie

Жыл бұрын

@@Freddy-Da-Freeloadah about the oddest unlikeliest theories ever. Stone is cut. It is cut now it was cut then. We see the drill holes, the circular saw marks, etc. They had very powerful and efficient tools but to somehow think they softened stone seems a bit absurd, as in zero reasonable explanation be sure no, softening stone is not a thing.

I sit here and listen to how people actually think they trekked massive stones to this location. But that is not the case. Nothing whatsoever says that these stones were all one piece when transported. If they had the technology to soften the stones, then there is no reason whatsoever to think they all had to be one giant piece. Just look at some of the stones that have the surface flaked off. Its usually a thin layer that broke away. This ALONE is all the proof a stone mason needs to realize, that the surface of these stones were troweled. And if you look at some of the other stones in the right light and shadow, you'll see log rectangular lines running down the face of the stones where this occurred. While some of the stone may have been one giant piece, not all were. And there is more than enough flaking and trowel lines to prove they were softened. And I wouldn't be surprised that if you look in enough of the seems, you find little straight lines where the person troweling them didn't get it perfect.

@daos3300

Жыл бұрын

wishful thinking and arguments from ignorance are not proof, they are the opposite. you'll have to do a lot better than that to convince any intelligent, rational person.

There is ONLY one way these rocks were fitted together - they were rubbed together. No magic - no high tech - no melting stones - just plain old rubbing together. One or more rocks were secured to a stone platform, probably bedrock, and secure using those "bumps" or "numbs" you see on some. A tripod was set up over it, and the rock to fit into the rocks below was swung on a pendulum. The rock was lowered until contact was made, and the wearing away started - the rope was lowered until all rocks fit. One more thing was needed 2 panels surrounding the stationary rocks prevented the pendulum from twisting. This is so simple.....

@daos3300

Жыл бұрын

that is hugely overcomplicated and unnecessary, a massive waste of energy and effort. you just have to rub and form the rock you want to shape with smaller stones.

@noleftturns

Жыл бұрын

@@daos3300 and the alternative is....don't tell me....let me guess... melting rocks with a solvent or UFO technology or giants did it

@gfelix3552

7 ай бұрын

​@@noleftturns Well you see the knobs and scoop marks in sooo many other ancient sites. Ancient sites i knew about and only recently i find out also have them. The scoop marks and knobs are on pretty much all ancient stone sites. There are also knobs and scoop marks on ancient quarries. Aside from that there are also some sites where you can see hand scoop marks of fingers. Where they used their ✋ to scoop out the stone. So we can kinda tell they were not grinded or anything like that. We know it was melted. Like clay.

@gfelix3552

7 ай бұрын

​@@noleftturns Im thinking it was an ancient technique that got lost.

@noleftturns

7 ай бұрын

@@gfelix3552 Using that logic, Klingons must have helped them - they used their Phaser Blasters to melt the rock.

If you have the final answer for this mystery.. then we should be able to recreate it.. NOT !!! how did they have the means to do such a feat back when they prolly only had iron chisel if that.. I guess this is scienctific which means its your best guess not the undisputed 100% truth but only a therory.

They are enormous stacked/placed sand filled bags that have petrified and/or vitrified...

@LadyBits2023

Ай бұрын

... except if you do, even a five minute Google search in a bit of reading, you would realize that they know exactly what type of naturally occurring rock these are. They're well documented well known throughout the world. In fact, they even know what Cory they come from down to the meter. 🤣

@jameyrobbins13

29 күн бұрын

@@LadyBits2023 google😂

civilisations don't always do things because they are easy. was it easy to launch a space station or JWST? is it easy building huge dams? tall skyscrapers? what does the ease of something have to do with anything? also it's not inexplicable. did you notice the outside corners are also curved? and quit with the ignorant pseudoscience rubbish, have some respect for the skills and hard labour that went into these constructions.

These stone are not carved, they are poured geo-polymers, they used a bag type technology to form them! That is why there is no gaps between them and why they were easily curved!

@zinzin8891

Жыл бұрын

Geopolymers can't explain some cuts in rock or marks left in quarries.

@calenlight6817

Жыл бұрын

@@zinzin8891 yes, a very very small fraction of them can not be explained by geo-polymers, but most can!

@zinzin8891

Жыл бұрын

Most can't. If they were geopolymers, they would be mostly uniformal small cubes. They wouldn't make bags of different shapes an sizes - it's illogical. It looks like they modified rocks to feat the wall. If it was made from geopolymers, it would be looking more like made from misshapen bricks or wall would be looking more like lower part of Coliseum in Rome, but made of geopolimers instead of concrete. Also they would add gravel to the mix to increase volume. Those people had other things to do with their small numbers. They were hunting, farming, trading and waging wars. They were building like they did cause transport and building itself that way was easiest for them at that time. I doubt whole tribe had knowledge and time to waste for finding, mixing and using of geopolymers. I think all was done by very small crew very quickly.

@calenlight6817

Жыл бұрын

@@zinzin8891 You are seeing all of this fully outside of it's true historical reality based on the fake academic theories that we just came out of the Jungle 6,000 years ago. Check out the wiseup channel to bring yourself up to speed! Paul Cook's channel will help you as well, especially regarding the geopolymers!

@BlackStarEOP

Жыл бұрын

@@zinzin8891 Look up a paper called "On the reddish glittery mud the inca used for perfecting their stone masonry" very interesting paper

There was no need for "softening" the stones or any other imaginary technologies. What was used was hard work, ingenuity, and thousands of years of cultural experience of working with stone.