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Once again! Nothing but love and respect! We hella appreciate all the work you do to get these videos to us. Mushlove and respect TTF 🍄🛸👽
A long while back you recommend me to outgrow and I won’t stop shopping with them there substrate and spawn is phenomenal!!!
Dude - was just googling this very topic. Thank you as always!!!
I never thought I'd look at shit and think to myself "oh, man, that looks good". But, here I am.
@sparkeyjones6261
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, that's not exactly true. First year of college in 1985 I was studying mycology, and growing mushrooms in my dorm room. My roommate was cool about it, but thought it was pretty weird that I had a giant bag of pasteurized cow manure in my closet.
@codyrich4032
3 жыл бұрын
For $50 for .668 cubic feet it should be made out of gold
@robertcharles9072
3 ай бұрын
Lmao same here
@Kleberei
15 күн бұрын
das good shit?
Thanks for the video, but there is 1 thing i want to tell. You have total amount of 60 cups in your box (100÷60=1.667 / multiplied with 50 cups manure equals =83.333 percent).your ratio is 83.33/8.33/8.33. You have to Divide your manure cups with 8 for the vermiculite and coir, because it's 8 times more. 48/6/6 cups would be a 80/10/10% ratio. Sorry for my english (Not native)
@triple_gem_shining
2 жыл бұрын
He said that in the video lol
@woodson082787
Жыл бұрын
I came up with 50 6.25 6.25
@minttoothpaste3245
Жыл бұрын
He said it wrong he would of said 1 to 10 ratio or in this case 5 to 50
@TimothyMcVay
Жыл бұрын
I live on a cattle farm... will just straight dehydrated cow manure work ?
@Dominikidz
4 ай бұрын
@@TimothyMcVayyes
So happy to have found you through Instagram. Your content is definitely going to help be a lot. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the video. I was looking for this very info. Thanks again.
As usual , WillyMyco Delivers !!! #WillyMycomanuresubstrate .... Thanks WillyMyco#
Just acquired 50 gallons of free hpoo a few days ago what perfect timing
@starkillerbeats420
3 жыл бұрын
Damn 50 gallons !
@starkillerbeats420
3 жыл бұрын
@90 Second Mycology ❤🙏🍄🙏❤
@amandab3033
3 жыл бұрын
Just came into some myself lol
@tjdurazo
3 жыл бұрын
Fresh $#*% is good or does it need to be composted?
@eyesdontsee
3 жыл бұрын
@@tjdurazo field aged is best
Yo Willy I was sent here by 90 second mycology, I have subbed to you from two channels. I appreciate all the info!!
IVE BEEN NEEDING THIS VIDEO. mush love ttf ✌️
great information as usual! well presented man!
Thanks for the info. Valuable knowledge ,,,,,😎
I use cow manure, 40%, oats 40%, and 20% vermiculite, it works pretty good. I will try to add some gypsum powder and see how it works. Thanks for the video man. I do have to pressure cook because of the oats.
@thejohn6614
2 жыл бұрын
How do you prepare the oats?
@QuailCanyonAnthropolgy
2 жыл бұрын
@@thejohn6614 I mix the manure and water until wet and soggy. Then I mix in dry oats until the soggy turns into wet. Then I add vermiculite until I have the perfect moisture. Basically the PF tech with alternate medium. This works slower than brown rice flour, but still works ok.
@thejohn6614
2 жыл бұрын
@@QuailCanyonAnthropolgy I see. Thank you for your reply. I used to just use horse manure mixed with vermiculite and it worked great and I never had any contamination issues. I made sure to get the old dried up horse manure that had started to turn white.
Hello I just wanted to say thank you for all your informational videos. I’ve learned so much from you and the other KZreadrs who post about mushroom cultivation. Quick question, if I order the pasteurized mushroom growing sub from poogod do I just use that straight away without adding coir or verm or anything? Just confused
Tku so much brother. I needed that info so badly .
Thanks for the info on each section man I find this is going to be a hobby 👌. And idk if anyone else noticed or if its the quality of the video but its the swelling in ur hands and redness on ur left hand.
Thanks willy. 💯🍄
What is your advice on using mushroom mulch? I have access to plenty, it's used once and discarded. Can it be repastureized and used straight?
Gracias willy 🎉
I find supplementing manure substrates with some carbs as chopped straw works best. Using just manure, vermiculite, and coco just doesn't seem to cut it. If you use straw, you can still get away with pasteurizing.
@willsry7
3 жыл бұрын
Two questions. What do mean by "just doesn't cut it?" Does a manure based substrate increase potency compared to a CVG substrate?
When your doing 2hrs @150-160*, is that in a pressure cooker or just boiling? How do you take temps when the lid is sealed?
Honestly I don't know if its the weather , but during the winter I used coco/verm only had no contam in my tubs, now summertime I added cowpoop to my sub and have been getting more tricoderma in some of my tubs. Just an observation, I added cowpoop to see if it has any affects on potency. But sometimes it seems to keep it simple seems to work , so if s beginner I recommend coco/verm only
@longdong3889
2 жыл бұрын
👍👌
@remingtonfrog3170
Жыл бұрын
Thanks just what I was wondering 👍🏻
@brysonhumphrey2181
4 ай бұрын
Thank you you might have just saved my first grow
Hi Willy. Great program bud! Thank you for the knowledge you teach. I have been trying to find a good dehydrated manure that isn't ridiculously priced. Nor, do I want a mix with too much filler of compost. Any idea where I could order this?
For the past 15 years I have pasteurized my mixture of manure and other substrate threw them in the tub thrown it in the closet and forgot about it just use it as I need it I never had to freeze anyting and it never got contaminated
90-second mycology recommended me to your channel for substrate knowledge. Thank you ever so much really informative. New sub. Only thing I'd wonder about is here in the UK, our tap water is chlorinated... So from my days having being a green finger we used to let the water stand for 24-hours so the chlorine would evaporate.. I'm not sure how that would affect mushroom spore but just something I've wondered about.
@jonb7384
3 жыл бұрын
You can still use it but if it's a concern you could always use filtered tap water or buy bottles of distilled water and you won't have anything to worry about.
@BrianLassek
2 жыл бұрын
You'd need to know if your tap water has chlorine or chloramine. Chlorine will off gas over time, chloramine has largely replaced chlorine because it is more stable. The good and bad of chloramine is that it stays in the water without off gassing....
@robertstoyles
2 жыл бұрын
I collect my rain water I honestly think it would be the best
@drainedeyes4268
2 жыл бұрын
90sec is the shit, his sub Reddit is one of my favorites ❤️
@mattyicee215
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it distilled water
Over here instantly overwhelmed on which myco bags to purchase. Dang that selection is deep on unicorn bags 😵
Very educational video! Would be nice if you can make a rap video talking about everything mushroom related which would be epic imo lolz.
Hi Willy; thanks for all your great content! Question, would this recipe work for button mushrooms? Thanks
What are the small white/clear tiny bugs in the manure? Does pastureization kill them? Should one worry about that?
lve your videos brother!!!!!!!!!!
Good video again, is there any chance you can make a video of you isolating a strain from agar ... start to finish ?
Thanx for the clear video :-)
Thanks for the videos man. You explained why you use the vermiculite but why poo and not straw or something, and why the other two ingredients? If I got the manure locally what would I ask for? Like definitely aged right?
@thejohn6614
2 жыл бұрын
Manure is resistant to contamination and has a lot of nutrients. If you can gather what you want then get aged shit after it turns white. The white stuff is beneficial bacteria. If you get fresh stuff you have to dry it off.. If you get it from stalls then you have to leech it first.
might sound like a stupid question but when a mushroom is dehydrated so to turn into powder will it lose any of its potency?
I've only been growing magics for a year now, and I've had the best success with a monotub growing on manure.
@jasonstar2285
Жыл бұрын
does it stink? how many flushes do you get ?
@TheMachineMother84
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonstar2285 as you have to pasturise it, it does stink because you're basically sitting with a steaming tub of sh*t. But, it doesn't stink that much once cooled off, and there is no smell once the substrate is fully colonised. I only has one flush, but that's because our temperatures rose unexpectedly (record highs for October).
@jasonstar2285
Жыл бұрын
@@TheMachineMother84 ok thanks for info 👍
@rustysmith-kc6ys
Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a dub tub going with the boomerbags of horse manure. I got a full tub of mycelium for a week but I was told to put a layer of coir ontop. Do you do this? It’s beautiful looking with water droplets shinning when I look at it with a flash light
When you pasturize at 150F-160F for 2 hours...is that a setting on your bulk pasturization tub? Or are you monitoring the core temp and once THAT hits 150F-160F you start the clock for your 2 hours?
@TheNativeNation
2 жыл бұрын
You have to monitor for 2 hours ONCE the temp hits 160
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What are your thoughts on adding brown rice flour to the mix willy?
Do you upload anywhere else? You used to have more videos but it seems they got deleted. You had a PF tek and monotub guide that was in-depth
What is the maximum temperature that the bag withstands in the Autoclave? Greats from Brazil
Thanks for the video, but I don't agree with your logic regarding weight vs. volume. Cups (volume) is a dumb measure to use for solids when calculating ratios as for instance for sawdust you'd get a completely different amount of raw material when you take 1cup of pellets compared to loose saw dust. The only way to convert 1 cup of pellets into loose one would be to go by weight.
@lorentzianmanifold718
2 жыл бұрын
It's not his logic obviously your not a science person because there is volumetric ratios and then there are weight ratios and in this case volumetric is what we are after for percent ratios!!!
@RieXtheXRaider
Жыл бұрын
@@lorentzianmanifold718 No clue what you're talking about Lorentzian, Volumetric measurments are way less accurate because the grain size of the material and how much it's packed play a huge role. We almost exclusively use weight in science because it's more accurate and consistent. I'm not saying you can't use volumetric measurments, because obviously you can, but moving to a weight system would have a lot of advantages. It might not be worth the effort if the current recipie works well, but that doesn't mean quin is wrong.
@anotherguy9402
Жыл бұрын
@@lorentzianmanifold718 volumetric is for liquids and weight is for solids.
@spearcat710
Жыл бұрын
@@anotherguy9402 what about the moisture content of an absorbent solid? Then your weight ratio wouldn't be precise either based on atmospheric conditions or even just how your materials are prepared. We're not really trying to be that precise here, just be accurate. Anybody remember that lesson in science class? You can be accurate without being precise. Here he's trying to advise being accurate.. If you're talking actual solids like nails or something then sure, weight will work. Give me a pound of wet sponges though, and then give me a pound of dry ones, very different, but a gallon of each will be pretty close to the same. Either way he's saying to use volume in his recipe and acknowledges doing it by weight and says thats not quite right. At the end of the day you do you tho, its your 💩
@christawilliams9116
9 ай бұрын
I've had good luck starting with the same method of measurement the recipie was developed with.
So I wanted to know when you are going to be making a video on setting up that timer that you had in one of your videos
Thanks Willy
Your videos are very interesting. One friendly advice. You repeat the same things 5 - 6 times. "You turn it on one side and then onto the other side... and then you do it over and again. It takes you for ever to explain one simple piece of information. You would have to be much more concise and you'll be 100 times more efficient. Other than that you're one of the best. Keep on with the good work
Does manure need to be composted or can it be partly composted or fresh then dried
Thanks for the informative video, I'm afraid I couldn't Coco coir. Can I replace it with Sugar cane bagasse?
How much spawn would be recommended to add to this bulk ratio?
I wouldn’t recommend pulling sub out until it has cooled. When substrate is hot and exposed to colder atmospheric air it begins to vacuum and draw air into itself. In the open where contaminants are floating you’re asking for contamination. We’ve found this out the hard way in a hurry to get bags cooled down. If you let them cool where they were heated they will shrink up real tight because they have vacuumed and sealed.
Love u willy from chicago
@dartanzalw
3 жыл бұрын
What’s up Chicago 😊 🤫
Anyone know how much sub this should yield? I tried this for the first time and I was able to fill one sterlite 56q blue gasket tub. I had some leftover but not enough to do another monotub.
Do spent coffee grounds work as opposed to manure?
Respect
Hi Willy They say that coco coir is a natural anti-fungi Is that correct?
Will this be good for pan cyan? Do you have a non Martha video on these?
what is the benefit of using manure vs straight coco coir.?????
Can you use worm castings?
Just want to add that allowing a substrate to pasteurize longer than the given time for the given sub. Will not sterilize it. That takes immense heat and pressure and often flame.. it does how ever kill off beneficials.. great video btw!!
Hey I have a spore syringe of golden teachers....I have a tub, jars, coca coir, whole oats, brown rice, vermiculite, and gypsum. How much of everything should I mix up for one syringe?
Thanks a lot ✨🤟🏻💕
Is 10 weeks normal for colonization? I used 2 10cc syringes. If after the bags are colonizing should you empty the bags into the tub?
TTF 4 life!!! MYCO LIFE!
I got a question about manure, as far as Does It Matter What Kind Is Usable? This might seem like a stupid or frivolous question, but I am quite serious. Knowing that mushrooms grow in the wild, and that men have been eating mushrooms since they began tracking and hunting their prey, following their scat and picking the mushrooms off of it as they went along, is seems like they might grow on any kind of Scat. The reason why I am asking is, I live on free range, and I raise rabbits, and there is plenty of manure for the taking. Rabbit scat is very beneficial to mini Gardens and is mixed with Timothy Hay already. I was hoping that I could make both the cow manure and their rabbit manure together along with the hay, a little Coco Coir, and a little Gypsum and, after pasteurization, end up with a pretty decent substrate. I might be able to use a little cardboard in the mix as well. What are your thoughts?
Willy! Thank you for this video. I have been using CBG substrate with ok results. However after trying the horse manure substrate, I won't go back to CVG.
@jasonstar2285
Жыл бұрын
does it stink? how many flushes do you get ?
@jamesstrength5405
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly it does not. I got 3 flushes. The first being the largest second and third the fruits were bigger.
Can I use manure, Vermiculite and gypsum? I dont have cocoa coir..
Could you replace the manure with kitchen compost? Got a ton of compost down to soil, ready to rock :)
Eh Willy, does this work with an all American sterilizer for pasteurizing the substrate?
Hi, would a manure based compost work? Would I still use the 80/10/10? Thank you in advance.
I think it's funny, as knowledgeable as Willy is, he still says "Panaeolus cyanescens" like "panellyis cyansis"
@williamcozart8158
3 жыл бұрын
and "library" like "lie-berry"
@williamcozart8158
3 жыл бұрын
and he says Bostony things like "yous guys" lol
I'm going to try this recipe . I usually jar my cvg substrate and pressure cook for 90-120 min . Would this method be a good idea for this recipe?
@richardchambers256
Жыл бұрын
That will sterilize your CVG. You just want to pasteurize it or you could kill off all the good microorganisms.
Can I add these for the substrate mix Coco coir Vermiculite Perlite Malibu compost Can I use both vermiculite and perlite ? Can I add compost aswell? And is gypsum absolutely needed? Do I sterilize with everything mixed together already? And just add the gypsum after?
Thanks man
So to pasteurize, in theory, I could do this like soil and put it in black trash bags and sit it in the sun on a summer day for a few hours. Or bag it how I'm going to freeze it, put those in the black bin and sit it outside. Start in the morning, and on a good 90F day, should be good by that night. Is that the right train of thought?
@dedwards0117
3 жыл бұрын
nevermind, thats sterilization I described. Thanks
is this special manure required? Can you just use dried manure if you have access to a horse farm?
It’s my first grow, can I keep it simple and just use the Coco coir in a monotub? I got a kit from Midwest and they sent some white kitty litter type stuff to use as sub straight. I’m not sure if I want to use that.
@linusgoblin
Жыл бұрын
The kitty litter stuff is probably vermiculite, its just a cool rock that puff up when heated up and its safe for human consumption
My mix is 350g coco, 300g verm, 350g H poo, and 50g gypsum. It works perfekt so light and fluffy, it gets colonised in like 7days
@antaprex5988
9 ай бұрын
What's the water?
@chrisgaffga5974
28 күн бұрын
Good to know
Does pasteurized manure substrate, done with steam properly, in jars, covered tightly with tyvek cover, last a while, if kept in jars, covered?
@samc5794
Жыл бұрын
I'd cover them with foil as well before sterilization
Are you talking about and pressure cooker?? For pasteurizing ??
What is the use of gypsum?
If you use a brick of coir always break it up before pasteurizing it. if not sometimes the center of the brick wont get hot enough and youl get contams. its super easy. turn it on its side and use a bread knife or one with large serrations and saw it down the side and it splits apart so easy, just slice it in half and then half the halves then break em up into 2 inch or smaller pieces. especially for bucket tech.
Hi Willy, I appreciate you! I am trying your manure substrate and this is my first time growing. The mycelium has engulfed the substrate but I am not seeing any pins and it has been around 10 days. Is that normal? I would be happy to send you some pictures. Thank you for any assistance you could provide.
@centraltxgarden
Жыл бұрын
I used horse manure from a friend, some oyster shell, coco coir and a small amount of coffee.
So can I use black cow manure for gardening?
Is it important to have 100% recipe. Does the weight ratio have to be exact. How critical is that?
Would those that you picked up in CR will be all good in the hood in this substrate? ❤
I live on a cattle farm... will just straight dehydrated cow manure work ?
Would plaster of paris work?
Where can I get a sweatshirt like the one you're wearing in this video?
if I were to forego the hpoop and opt for a simple verm/coir/gypsum sub., what ratios would I use?
@osiriswills6749
3 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/qa6BtMx-dLDKltY.html this is what you are looking for
@professored7169
2 жыл бұрын
I just eyeball it, I add more coir than verm and put the gypsum in until I think I added alittle to much then mix it up and slowly add water until it's alittle too wet then cover with foil and throw it in the oven at 170 for 2/2.5 hours, turn off oven and let it sit covered for a few hours, with coir you dont have to be super precise
@ekoorbhtebazile
2 жыл бұрын
@@professored7169 you get good yields with that mix?
Thanks
The thing is you almost can't put too much gypsum in seriously I mean it won't hurt a damn thing if you put way way way way way too much in you'll have drainage problems and it'll start hardening up into little clumps but I mean you don't have to really measure it that much you can damn near gas at it you can leave it out altogether and then they'll grow just fine especially depending on the horse's diet. There could be a lot of calcium in their diet and you don't need to add any gypsum. You can use straight manure you can use manure and Coco coir I went years just using manure and vermiculite and just dumped it in and kept stirring it up until it was speckly to what I was used to the IT looked right to me you don't have to be very picky it's going to get the nutrients that it needs I would guess that even if you mixed it 5050 it would still grow mushrooms pretty good people get too crazy with exact measurements. I dumped a giant pile probably 3 wheelbarrows worth of manure in my backyard and then tossed a couple old spent blocks of you ventis in there and the next spring there was golden teachers everywhere
So I don’t have to make substrate every time I go from spawn to bulk
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I have I a quick question I "have a friend" that is growing his first time and he's already injected his spore syringe into a ready to go 3 oz millet bag from booming achers and he went and bought a 40 lb bag of cow manure and compost and is going to JUST use that as a subtrate and "case" it. Is it already good to go with moisture? Or does he have to add water himself? And if so how much to 3 oz of millet with 10 ml of spores from sporesMD INSIDE of it already and is on day 6 tomorrow. He is using a big plastic tub with lid and is drilling 3" holes in the sides with breathable medical tape over the holes when he's ready to add the innoculated millet... He just needs to know if He has to manually add water and if so? How much? And on day #? Plz help it's his first time....
Can cold water lime pasteurization be used on manure substrates? Any info on this topic would be appreciated :)
@nathanharnor7863
Жыл бұрын
No, that is mostly used for low nutrient based substates like coco coir .
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Why do you need to freeze bagged substrate?
We're do you buy the Coco core and vermiculite and gypsum?
I picked some fresh horse poop from a stable and put it in a sack but left the sack in my veranda for 5 months. Is that good enough to use? Can this recipe be used for Agaricus bisporus?
@richardchambers256
Жыл бұрын
It needs to compost. It can't do that inside a bag. Needs air.
Does the ph sub matter? Now do u ph the water b4 adding to sub? Or does the blend of sub increase the sub? Distilled water has ph of 0 where purified water is around 6-7.5
@whateverthedaybrings2268
Жыл бұрын
Distilled water is 7, neutral. 0 would be very acidic; more acidic than stomach acid.
Will this substrate work for hard wood loving species as such shiitake, lionsmane, oyster & maitake too ?
@richardchambers256
Жыл бұрын
I would use hard wood instead of manure for those types of mushrooms.