What a strange discussion. I mean, Crystal Palace has sort of defined consistency in terms of the lower mid table finish. They make it sound like they're 16th/17th most seasons, "treading water". In their ten years of EPL the lowest they came was 15th (once) and they came 10 th once and 11th three times. I think Palace have done remarkably well, by all means they should have been more of a yo-yo club. Not all teams can "kick on" in this league where, outside the top 6/7, you can barely keep a player beyond half a solid season. I don't know what you expect.

@grassrootsfootball225

8 ай бұрын

Palace are a blueprint for many a club

@skacel7

8 ай бұрын

If Palace had invented dugouts then their treading water would be much more acceptable. Everton invented dugouts. We invented a MAJOR part of our game. Without our invention football as we know it wouldn’t exist. Palace have invented nothing so their existence is a waste of time. But Everton are one of the biggest clubs in world football because we invented dugouts.

@PALACEKAV

8 ай бұрын

Well said that man! And we do that out of 92 professional league clubs......

@williamsmith9315

8 ай бұрын

You're pundit material, but who are you quoting?

@frederickrich7393

8 ай бұрын

Fair comment, and thats coming from a Brighton fan!

Jim keeps comparing Brighton to Crystal Palace but really the closer comparison is Southampton who did the same thing that Brighton are doing right now...

@footballsoccerx2021

8 ай бұрын

But also got relegated

Current Palace injury list: Olise, Franca, Lerma, Henderson, Ferguson, Edouard, Ahamada. Roy has to protect what we have for Saturday.

@ivanaleksandartsanev1693

8 ай бұрын

And United had 12 players unavailable, yet that can't be an excuse.

@leeandrewclarke

8 ай бұрын

@@ivanaleksandartsanev1693 Palace don't have glory-hunting idiots all over the world buying our shirts so that we can spend £150M in one window on the squad. The four players we lost hurt us far more than any dozen players Utd have out.

I actually want to give Palace some credit. I wouldn't say they are consistently treading water, they don't have a big budget each year. They have stayed in the prem with some good positions and some relegation battles. If I was a fan I would fancy a cup run though.

@ts64587

8 ай бұрын

We need to start the season well so with our squad and injuries we have to half write off the league cup very tough draw to be fair. Have been very fortunate to have seen an FA cup final and semi final in the last few years though

@Prypyatify

8 ай бұрын

We made it to the semi final the other year to be fair

No, it’s a daft charge to level against Palace - if they are “treading water”, the alternative is sinking. Establishing themselves fairly consistently as a sort of mid-table side in the top flight with comparatively limited resources is actually quite commendable. Impatient boom or bust attitudes never turn out well.

From a Forest perspective I would of loved to be 'treading water' like Palace for 10 years. Palace are a brilliant club who gave us a fantastic away day last season and although the trips a nightmare I love going to Selhurst and have missed it greatly. As stated they have many injuries (like a lot of teams granted) and play United again at the weekend...priorities right now is getting points in the league. Good luck to them for the season!

@truthhurts8924

8 ай бұрын

Im a Palace fan, nice words, Exactly how i feel about teams around us (forest included) - Its impossible to compete at the top without Billions.. As soon as your players shine they are sold... Enjoy it while you can! All the best for the season!

@armanvranka7520

8 ай бұрын

I liked going to selhurst in 2020 for watford palace the tube in was packed with watford supporters was class

@2949james

8 ай бұрын

Forest fans were the best we had at Selhurst last season, good luck to you all.

Am I the only one laughing at Danny's word slip 😂

@martynholmes2544

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I would argue that Crystal Palace have the perfect model for staying in the premier league. They sign predominantly lower mid-table standard players that are too good to keep them out of trouble but aren't good enough to play for the top sides so they don't lose their best players or they don't have to pay them obscene wages to keep them. It works perfectly if you ask me.

Palace know what they are. If they try and go for more then everything may fall apart. Look at Everton.

@franciscouch8378

8 ай бұрын

As an Evertonian I completely agree..I'd kill to be a steady ship like Palace.

@skacel7

8 ай бұрын

Erm and what about Everton? Palace WISH they were Everton. We invented dugouts and were one of the first clubs to install under soil heating. Palace don’t have that kind of history. The kind of history other clubs dream of. We pioneered dugouts. What have Palace ever pioneered except having an eagle fly around before matches?

@rogerdavies2796

8 ай бұрын

​@@skacel7Oh wow, Everton invented dugouts.

@skacel7

8 ай бұрын

Precisely, you didn't even know that did you? That should be one of the first things young girls and boys are taught when starting to learn the game. Who invented the game? Without which clubs would football not exist? Everton FC, that's who. Perhaps people should know their history before playing and watching the game. @@rogerdavies2796

@Antonio-hb8rd

8 ай бұрын

Embarrasing comment, good luck in the Championship with your under soil heating, it get cold in Hull

Jim is a bane on life itself. Honestly, he never listens and spouts absolute nonsense. He talks over Danny, Simon and whoever else is on at the same time. Prefer it when Jim isn't on, which unfortunately doesn't happen much.

If being a solid mid table PL is treading water, bring it on!!! As a Forest fan i'd love to be in the PL as long as they've been and i'm sure the bottom 3 would too. Most of the teams above them are ludicrously wealthy.

Arsenal fan contacting them to say he's fed up with sides not trying in the league cup,when did arsenal last win it? 😂

@GKB91

8 ай бұрын

Wow what a great point..

Not everyone can win the league or be pushing for Europe. We used to be a yoyo team, this long run in the top flight has been incredible

Sure I'd rather have Brighton's trajectory then Palaces but I'd much sooner have Palaces then Evertons, Wolves, Southampton etc. Yes they could be better but they could be a lot worse.

@RobinHood-us7sg

8 ай бұрын

👏🏻 exactly! Forest’s aim is to compete with Brentford, Fulham & Palace this season ie 10-13…then creep up to 7-10 over next few seasons to compete with Villa, Brighton etc 🤙🏻 but it won’t be easy 😂

By being in the premiership for ten years is a achievement in it self I sense a touch of jealousy

Most clubs especially fans would love to be in Palaces place. fans would like to see their club on a decent cup run but not at the expense of a Premier league place as they may not get back up.

Finally the 2 buddies are having it against each other!

Simon getting owned as usual

The league cup isn't important, until it is.

I agree with Simon about Brighton. Ive seen it before with Swansea, Southampton and Leicester. Trophies are also much more contested now.

@ozzyprogdomino8815

8 ай бұрын

The issue is they say because Brighton are currently successful, they will suddenly get relegated, before Palace, that makes no sense

@munaali840

2 ай бұрын

@@ozzyprogdomino8815 their players will be raided. Southampton always get in this situation look at the season they had Virgil van Dijk, Sadio Mane, Dejan Lovren, Adam Lallana, Nathaniel Clyne and Rickie Lambert all sold, they are forever rebuilding because they simply cant compete financially. The mass exodus leaves a team fighting relegation, their back room and scouts will be raided too. Its unfortunate but we see a club like Brighton every few seasons, but they do have an owner who invested a lot so maybe they can survive the raid. Palace have managed to keep a balance by having good players that can keep them middle of the pack away from relegation, but no so good that the top 6 raid a large chunk of the team. They have a few academy products like Zaha that can go but one or two players you can survive, rebuilding half your starting 11 every season you cant

Danny and Jim are trying to get Simon to bite 🤣🤣🤣

Remember Charlton under Alan Curbishley top eight always. Then they ditch him to go to the " next level" . Be careful what you wish for!

Danny’s going to end up in clips of the week 😂😂

Firstly, the panel didn't observe the fact that Palace currently have Olise, Lerma, top scorer Edouard and new signing Franca all injured. We couldn't put anything like a 'best team' out anyway. We are also in a strange position where we might have our best First XI since we last came up yet perhaps our weakest squad. We have minimal full back cover, only one dependable reserve CB, one reasonable quality reserve CM and only one dedicated winger, in Olise. With a full team, over 38 games, we are possibly a top ten side. But a few critical injuries could see us really struggle. I understand Roy wanting to protect the squad. It's talented but very thin.

@mrmikeina69

8 ай бұрын

Completely agree, Riedevalde looked good in both games against Man U though

Is Jim normal

@tevildo45

8 ай бұрын

He bodied Simon here

@Jimunculi

8 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

As a Palace fan.. The phrase "treading water" is a little unfair, and unfounded.. Since September 2017, when de Boer got sacked. We have NEVER been in the relegation zone.. Not once.. 6 Years, for a club the size of ours. To not even flirt with relegation. Is pretty great. And they now have a world class training setup in Copers Cope. They have a new stand on the horizon. Things are looking good. People are upset that we don't spend the most on players. But RIGHT NOW. We have a young squad, with value. We haven't got a team full of mutton. Teams could, and probably will come knocking for Guehi, Anderson, Eze, Olise, Doucoure.. We have no illusions we're a selling club.. AND to say "what's the point of Palace.. they never win any trophies.." is one of the stupidest things I've heard. I'm happy. And I think as a fanbase. We're happy with a good team. A good performance. And what the future brings, in terms of our academy, and development of the stadium.

@Matthew-bu7fg

8 ай бұрын

genuine question - what do you want Palace to achieve? What's the proverbial "next step". As a Forest fan, I want us to consolidate our position in the Premier League, a little like Palace have done. Should we succeed, the next thing I'd want to see us do is have a cup run and potentially win a domestic competition.

@rorrt

8 ай бұрын

@@Matthew-bu7fg I don't see an end game for us.. I dream of comfortable mid-table mediocrity. With the odd day out at Wembley every now and then. My and my dad went to Wembley to watch the semi final a few years back. Great day out.. Plus, the new training and academy facilities are fantastic.. If we had our academy in place earlier, we could have picked up Sancho... If he'd get out of bed and play for us.. And the development of the stadium..

@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418

8 ай бұрын

​@@Matthew-bu7fgThe academy producing football league players regularly and the chance to bring some into our squad. We're starting to see the shoots of that. The main stand done as that gets us a near 35K seater stadium. A big (relative) boost in commercial revenue which can go into the coffers and increase our wage/transfer budget. We need to be able to make £170M+ a year to actually have the financial welly to bring in more promising Championship players and build a proper 22 man squad. Then we can actually build the stable platform to go for a cup/europe.

This is a stupid argument. Why aren't more people celebrating the fact that the likes of Palace can hang at the top of the football pyramid? Have they seen other sports like F1? Why does every other car brand still compete despite Red Bull and Mercedes dominating?

Top proper club Palace. Only club from London i admire, from all the way back to the Wrighty days. Good luck

4 or 5 Simon for Brighton? 7th season mate

Why on earth are they calling out Palace in this way and comparing them to Brighton. This whole discussion makes no sense and its disrespectful.

I wouldn't say Palace are treding water. They've pretty much mastered the art of being a mid table team in the prem.

Currently, the way the PL is set up 6 teams with big bucks are assured of staying in the prem. These are Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham. 3 of the other 14 can get relegated anytime. Burnley, Luton, and Sheffield United are most likely to get relegated. Brighton and Brentford will fight for the top 10. Wolves and Everton will look to survive along with Nottingham. So, stability and staying up is what all the other clubs play for. So Palace staying up is a priority and not the league cup.

@RobinHood-us7sg

8 ай бұрын

Forest’s plan this season is to get in the group of Brentford, Palace & Fulham ie 10-13. Then over next 2-3 seasons to compete with Villa, Brighton & Newcastle consistently in top 7/8 🤙🏻

As a Villa fan 6&5… 6 first 11 at the back re gk, back 4, a number 6 for a solid base; 5 forward players as fringe v Everton

I was having this conversation with someone the other day. Crystal Palace are unlikely to ever get relegated with Roy Hodgson in charge. He's a safe pair of hands. But he's also only ever going to get you to 13th and 14th placed finishes. What do fans think about that? Making a change is a risk. You could go down, you could achieve more. I think Vieira's dismissal was harsh and I don't think you can use him as a yardstick because he had a horrible run of fixtures which saw his dismissal and Roy was brought in when Palace's more pleasant fixtures came in. They could get into Europe with another manager. Or they could go down. Southampton replaced Nigel Adkins (who got them up) with a bloke called Mauricio Pochettino. Curbishley left Charlton, they brought in Dowie and that went... well let's say they haven't been seen since.

Didn’t listen to all of this but I’m pretty sure the word Ipswich never passed their lips..😮😮 Noticed Danny feels the cold 🥶

@masilomoshesh1475

8 ай бұрын

Bro McKenna is cooking up a storm there🥘

@garyr6097

8 ай бұрын

@@masilomoshesh1475 I must listen more often then .. I Listen to the sports bar now and again God bless ITFC !….you fly straight into my heart ❤️

Jim White doing Jim White things. I find myself liking Danny Murphy as a pundit.

A lot of teams below Palace in the pyramid would love to be in their position and would take an 11 year spell in the Premier League over their current situation

Jim bringing up the 'price of cheese'...😂

Brighton's owner aims to be in the top 10 every season, so if it does not go fully to plan they could end up lower mid table, if it goes well they can end up in a European spot. he does not plan to just stay up anymore. So I don't understand why people thinking that Brighton doing well, will suddenly see them relegated.

@StrawCurrent

8 ай бұрын

Fully agree

@oniondesu9633

8 ай бұрын

ok leicester had the same plane, and were competing in the top 4 of the table for a few seasons in a row just a couple years ago

@ozzyprogdomino8815

8 ай бұрын

@@oniondesu9633 do you realise their owner sadly passed away, The person that was running Leicester, same thing happened at Southampton.These comparisons are just lazy

Managers don’t get sacked for being knocked out the cup. They will if they look like being relegated. Owners have made the decision and managers respond, that simple.

As a palace fan i am content with our consistency with the budget we operate with, smart recruitment, frugal transfers,franca 37m is only coning back from injury, Olise is out gor another month or so, and we paid 20m for Henderson snd he goes snd gets injured, but i will take it every day of the week given other supporters of clubs who are not in the premier league than take dirty saudi money

Simon have a look at the crowds last season at Newcastle, full house tonight as well.

I hate Palace but haven't they got to a cup final more recently than Bournemouth, Brighton, Brentford, Everton, Sheffield United, Burnley amongst others are they treading water?

@jmac4652

8 ай бұрын

Don't forget Spurs too

I’m a Saints fan and we’re the most pointless club at the moment. An absolute shambles. Palace have done well for a club of their size

"place had turned around by then"😂

Dont bring forest into it. We have a huge history

Saying Palace rotated is literally embarrassing.. Utd didn't have.. Shaw Martinez.. Awb.. Eriksen.. Fernandes.. Rashford.. Also include both sancho & Antony in that mix..

The problem is the prices for tickets don't reflect the the quality of the squad your paying to see that why they don't sell as many tickets Not paying all that money to see a squad I can pay a fraction of cost to watch a week later in the under 21s

Why would you watch your team in the cup with 8+ changes in midweek when the clubs don’t take it seriously

Ipswich played a second team this Tuesday against Wolves. Wolves had some regular starters from them in the Premier League and Ipswich comfortably controlled the game for at least the last hour and looked like a cohesive team for the majority of the game. Winning 3-2 from behind.

@james505ism

8 ай бұрын

What’s your point

@danielfisher7484

8 ай бұрын

Sorry for not replying earlier, I had only just seen your message... This was about how a team that makes loads of changes can be still competitive as it comes down to training, team spirit, hunger and cohesion. It's a ridiculous excuse in my opinion when big teams make loads of changes and that is used as why they get knocked out. The premier League teams they are talking about should still easily be able to interchange their players and go through with the squads they have available.

10 11 season in top flight for Palace bloody record shows how good Parish is as Chairman and passionate , Jordan couldn't care less about Palace now

Palace have an injury crisis, why add too it when you have to play the same team Saturday. 3 points is way more valuable than moving on in a competition that you aren’t going to win

@MadMurdock69

8 ай бұрын

3points they won't be having..

@justinmartinez9994

8 ай бұрын

@@MadMurdock69 probably not, but you have better chance. That was my point

@justinmartinez9994

8 ай бұрын

@@MadMurdock69 got the three points 😂

@MadMurdock69

8 ай бұрын

@justinmartinez9994 They did.. Parked the bus the whole 2nd half.. Won't win anything of note.. Just in the Premier league to make nos up..👍

Every club should be going for the league Cup be Liverpool or City, Palace or Everton..... this early in the campaign are u worried about injuries or squad rotation.... if Palace put out a full team and lose so , they tried if they put out a weak team as they did and lose and then lose this weekend .... what was the point ? Some teams can rotate and win , Palace should of played their fullish team tried to win , and the know they are playing utd the weekend .... utds confidence could be slighted , Palace are buzzing. I'd back utd -1 this weekend..... makes no sense to me.

Serious lack of goals must be concerning for palace. They’re lucky there is muck like Luton & Sheff Utd in the League this season, which might just be the reason they stay up.

@andymccreight3175

8 ай бұрын

Lack of goals? Over half the league has scored less or the same as them, you melon

@garethcullen9604

8 ай бұрын

@@andymccreight3175 melon? Another internet tough guy 🤡

Wenger used to regularly play a younger squad in the league cup

These three are all over the place .

Loool, Simon’s whistle at the end of that video was priceless😂. But I agree, Palace have stagnated in the Premier League, not even challenging for Europe.

Arsenal fan here, I envy Crystal Palace fans. They are enjoying their club with no ambition. Which means no heartbreak or setbacks. Their club is never on a European position neither on relegation battle. They never got in a fight with any other club. It’s really relaxing to be a Palace fan.

8:42 - Jim's excitement level rose exponentially

I genuinely concerned Jim’s mental condition is worse then Joe Biden

Palace beat Man Utd last year in the league...and in 2020...and in 2019. Jordan doesn't have to go back to when Ambrose played as if that's a one off.

Love the show, but Jim is hard work in this one, I know he’s playing devils advocate and trying to wind Simon up, but this idea that unless you’re winning or challenging to win the premier league you’re pointless is so stupid. Clubs can exist without glory. Ask a season ticket holder at Selhurst park if Crystal Palace are pointless

Danny Murphy ✊anker

Mid level club needs to put out strong squad for the cup competitions. It's their only chance of silverware and they rob their fans of something to brag about. I blame the FA for accepting the managers nonchalant approach to the games.

@oniondesu9633

8 ай бұрын

look at how many injuries palace have, other than eze, guehi and andersen he played the strongest side he could. richards and holding have deserved a chance in the team so that was their chance

As a Wigan fan, treading water is preferable to drowning.

Crystal Palace getting stung while Everton are sniggering in the corner 😂

If your a Palace fan why would you travel all the way up to Manchester in the middle of the week given the fact you could be working the next day when they most likely will be putting out a reserve team

@oniondesu9633

8 ай бұрын

it wasnt a reserve team, he only rotated in 3 positions. the rest were the strongest he could field

Strange, Case has back to back brilliant matches and no Souness?

The interesting thing will be how Brighton do after Poch gets fired in December and Todd Boehly offers Brighton £50m for their manager and him five times his current salary.

This aged badly, within a few days they beat Man Utd at home with an even more depleted team. Palace always have to choose between securing staying up, and going for a cup run. With over 11 players (including their best players) injured it seems obvious they wouldn't play whatever's left of their best team. Manager's job is to keep the club/management happy, not bring memories for the players...

Tune into a morning show to hear Danny talk about tossing off. Oh dear. 😂

Big 6 always have near full house when playing early rounds of league cup man United Man city and Arsenal Newcastle Liverpool Tottenham

Be a gent Simon...admit when your done..😂

palace is a medium sized club. They are not as rich or big as Arsenal, Chelsea or Spurs. West Ham is bigger and has a bigger ground and won a trophy last season. Palace are where they should be given a club of their size. The question is imho what SHOULD Palace be doing? At least with Spurs, they won trophies in the past and have a big fanbase. Arsenal has a long history of winnign trophies. Chlesea has been dominant in the past 20 years. So they all have high expectations and needs and desires. Palace hasn't anything before. So what SHOULD they be doing?

I'd be fascinated to see how Simon would separate "the weed from the chafe" as he describes here. Only surreal imagery springs to my mind at the thought of whatever the hell it is he thinks he's talking about there.

Easy fix for the league cup , clubs that qualified for europe the previous season dont take part but still leave the confrence league qualification as a reward for winning it . Lower prem clubs have a chance at a throphy and europe and you dont get the man city like dominace you had a few years ago

Phrase of the week " Let's have it right"

@1WinstonSmith1984

8 ай бұрын

I say that just before a left hook 🤣

They should have waited until Saturday 😅

I hope Costa provide those drinks for free.

Has Jim white really stopped drinking? If so he must’ve talked some real shite before he became sober

Anyone here after palace won on Saturday in old Trafford??? Delighted Danny got it wrong.

See you Saturday Simon go call Piers after we demolish Palace,,,Tell him we are coming

jims just being daft and difficult 🤦‍♂️

Completely agree, Palace don't go for the cups, they don't try to break into the top 7 and get into Europe, they're just...there. Need to show a bit more ambition!

@cuck1ngfunt

8 ай бұрын

We need to attack the cups more, but pushing for Europe just isn’t realistic with our resources. Even ‘model club’ Brighton are about half a billion in debt to their owner. We don’t have that luxury.

Was Simon out the night before this I wonder

All this merely confirms that city are totally guilty of the charges or they would stop hiding behind lawyers

So every club should be in the top 5 and win a trophy, according to JW.

Palace are a team of big, fit, muscled athletes that have energy and physicality. Unfortunately the majority are terrible footballers.

@cuck1ngfunt

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, as far as technical quality goes, it’s pretty just our centre backs, Eze and Olise

Is Danny Murphy still here 🥱

I think they should get rid of the league cup like France did managers don't take it seriously and always complain about how many games they have the only thing its good for is giving youngsters a game and experience but that's it

This same Danny said manchester uniteds carabo cup means nothing

Too much is being made of this to be honest, both teams heavily rotated… as they’re both having huge issues with injuries. Think there were 2/3 first team starting 11 players for either team. Palace didn’t perform as well as they could have, but the game will be a different proposition at the weekend… again with huge changes to both teams.

@TP-pq9xx

8 ай бұрын

Yes, United had to rotate in their 80m CB and their new 55m midfielder signing and their 50m backup striker. And they are so devastated by injury that they even had to name 40m Van de Beek on the bench.

@michaelwilkinson9425

8 ай бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx both teams rotated… so the point still stands… it isn’t less valid because they’re forced to spend huge amounts of money on fairly poor players. Of course they have more options at their disposal… they’re still one of the top revenue generating clubs in the world… despite a decade without success.

@TP-pq9xx

8 ай бұрын

@@michaelwilkinson9425 I don’t know what United’s best XI is but it’s arguable that Onana, Dalot, Varane, Amrabat, Casemiro, Mount are all in it. That would mean it was a team of mostly starters.

@michaelwilkinson9425

8 ай бұрын

@@TP-pq9xx there’s 3 maybe 4 starting players in that line up if you counted Dalot… who before injury was secondary to AWB. Not to say there’s not quality in there… but it’s Manchester United… they should have depth with strong players. Not to mention Varane (return from injury), Mount (return from injury), Amrabat (brand new to the league and return from injury without playing any pre season football for Fiorentina), Hojland (again new and return from injury), Marital (Return from the longest injury period you can think of). So both teams were pretty ropey…. Palace started pretty well and kept it tight… but United (as they well should be) were far better on the day… and the difference in quality showed. Looking forward to a much more challenging, different game at the weekend. ✌️

@TP-pq9xx

8 ай бұрын

@@michaelwilkinson9425 I don’t see how you’re leaving out both Amrabat and Mount from United’s best midfield. Eriksen isn’t better than them. And Hojlund isn’t better than Martial yet either. United fans have been crying for months about anyone putting expectations on Hojlund despite his massive price tag.

Can't believe I'm actually on Jim's side. Also fans don't fill out stadiums in that cup, because they don't like paying full wack for back up players. Why don't one or two clubs say, tickets are free, fill the stadium and have a real go at it. Probably the only thing Palace will ever win

I watched 20 minutes last night and turned it off..really not fair on the fans give them the money back...should of at least put up a fight not park the bus...utd fans raving over there performance...shocking night of football.

Doesn't look so stupid now does it 🤷 Right now with all the injuries the squad isn't capable of three matches in 7 days with the starting 11. Key midfielders and attackers are not available then the backup isn't either. So annoying as it is prioritisation has to happen.

Parish is taking the piss he isn’t spending any money. Ward at rb tells you everything

Crystal Palace has also sold their talisman and never buy much. Huge credit to their coaching staff

@johnfahey1520

7 ай бұрын

Didn’t sell their talisman, I assume you mean Zaha. He chose not to renew his contract despite a great offer from palace.

Why do you want to be in the premier league? “So we can compete for trophies and be in Europe” Why aren’t you taking cups and Europe seriously? “So we can stay in the premier league” ffs As a Portsmouth fan, I can tell you that winning a cup is worth it. Any fan who tells you otherwise (i.e. palace fans etc.) will tell you otherwise because they have no idea how it feels.

Brighton been killing it since 2018... wtf is Simon on about?

Wheat from the chafe?